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jaayteetx
08-31-2008, 05:11 PM
Anybody know about this guy?
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5976473.html

Jackie Chiles
08-31-2008, 05:13 PM
Found a little draft info on him if anyone is interested.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=17009&draftyear=2006&genpos=DE

Hopefully everyone can view that seeing as I don't have a subscription and can see it all.

J-Russ
08-31-2008, 05:19 PM
Played in the SEC. Was ranked #9 DE in the 06 draft, going by Scott's ranking. He ranked him ahead of Dumervil, Chris Gocong, Frostee Rucker, etc.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/archive/2006/2006-Rankings.php

Was taken in the 7th round, Panthers fans thought they had a steal back when they drafted him.

Position: DE
Class: So
School: Auburn
Conference: Southeastern
Ht., Wt.: 6-2.5, 262
40 Time: 4.72
Selected by: Carolina Panthers
Round 7, pick 29 (237 overall)BIO: Two-year starter and All-Conference selection who posted 31/13.5/8 last season. Sophomore totals were 35/10/7.5.

POSITIVES: Explosive pass-rusher with a high upside for the next level. Quick off the snap, can bend off the edge or pursue from the backside with speed. Displays outstanding range on the field and is fast in any direction. Disciplined and does more than just mindlessly rush up the field.

NEGATIVES: Undersized, lacks strength at the point and can be driven off the line by opponents. Hobbled with an ankle injury last season.

ANALYSIS: A surprise entry into this year's draft, McClover is a developing pass rusher who offers a variety of skills. Must physically mature and improve his strength yet offers starting potential.

PROJECTION: Late Second Round


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2006/draft/players/5522.html

steelbtexan
08-31-2008, 05:36 PM
I had McClover as the no.1 FA DE available.

He is a very good pass rusher (LOTS OF SPEED) & should make a good bookend for MW. He is not an every down DE. He got caught up in a numbers game in Carolina.

Lets sign Keith & we will have had a good off season.

Texans_Chick
08-31-2008, 05:41 PM
My Panther buddy barely knew much about him. Says he is not horrible, but just a guy.

If he's been with the Panthers, he probably has had some good coaching.

But you never know. So much of the NFL is fit and opportunity.

Thorn
08-31-2008, 05:44 PM
Whoever this guy is, he can't be that great if he didn't make their team.

Corrosion
08-31-2008, 05:47 PM
Whoever this guy is, he can't be that great if he didn't make their team.

Whoever this guy is ..... even if he was stocking grocery shelves last week .... has to be an upgrade over Weaver. :headhurts:

Thorn
08-31-2008, 05:48 PM
Whoever this guy is ..... even if he was stocking grocery shelves last week .... has to be an upgrade over Weaver. :headhurts:


Well, there is that. LOL

Hardcore Texan
08-31-2008, 05:55 PM
From the chron link:

In their first round of moves Sunday, the Texans signed defensive end Stanley McClover of Auburn. They were also able to add running back Darius Walker to their practice squad.

McClover, a seventh-round pick in 2006, was released by the Carolina Panthers in the final round of cuts after having an unimpressive preseason. He played in 11 games last season and finished with eight tackles. He appeared in just two games as a rookie.

In the preseason, the 6-foot-2, 263 pound end had five tackles in three appearances. To make room for him on the roster, the Texans released offensive tackle Cliff Washburn.

The Texans fielded their entire practice squad with players they had released Friday. Walker was signed to the practice squad, along with linebacker Kevis Coley, wide receiver Darnell Jenkins, defensive tackle Gabe Long, defensive end Jesse Nading, cornerback Derrick Roberson and wide receiver Mark Simmons.

I was thinking most of these guys would be on the PS, suprised that Moffitt is not however.

BornOrange
08-31-2008, 05:57 PM
Here are a couple of links about McClover. It seems he has been an underachiever who has disappointed a team that is weak on the defensive line.

ESPN NFC South Blog entry (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcsouth/0-2-147/Panthers--Cutdown-analysis.html)

Carolina MB Thread (http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/84645-stanley-mcclover-better-cut.html)

dtran04
08-31-2008, 05:59 PM
All I know is that Smithiak is excellent at these types of pickups.

brakos82
08-31-2008, 06:00 PM
Whoever this guy is ..... even if he was stocking grocery shelves last week .... has to be an upgrade over Weaver. :headhurts:
"Hey Warner!"

Sideline
08-31-2008, 06:00 PM
They must see something in him to be bringing him in now when we can only carry 53 players.

Corrosion
08-31-2008, 06:19 PM
"Hey Warner!"

Chester Pitts :texflag:

beerlover
08-31-2008, 06:19 PM
more expression of need rather than a complete football player who is any better than those not already added back to the practice squad. he does have the right size & measureables lets hope he realizes this opportunity & make the most of it, but I just can't see him beating out Bulman or even Nading. I beleive he is a practice squad player who has run our of eligibility & now has to stick on someones active roster.

ChampionTexan
08-31-2008, 06:24 PM
http://thepiratesdilemma.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/mclovin-2.JPG

Excellent signing!

J-Russ
08-31-2008, 06:32 PM
Dugged up his old scouting report from NFLDC:

Height: 6-2 3/8 | Weight: 252 | 40-Time: 4.61

Official Bio

Strengths:
An excellent natural athlete...Has outstanding speed and quickness...Agile with great body control and changes direction well...A tremendous pass rusher off the edge...Explosive and makes a lot of big plays...Does a great job in pursuit...Good tackler and shows some ability in space...Productive...Still has a massive upside.

Weaknesses:
Lacks ideal height and bulk...Does not have a lot of experience and is very raw...Is not very consistent and disappears for stretches...Needs to bulk up and get stronger...Is too aggressive at times...Struggles to take on blocks...Relies too heavily on his athleticism...Might be a 'tweener who has to change positions.

Notes:
Could be moved to outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme...Averaged about 12 tackles for loss and 8 sacks in his two seasons of playing time...Could have gone much higher with another year in college...A situational pass rusher at the very least...Has some physical tools to work with and his potential is very intriguing.

ObsiWan
08-31-2008, 06:45 PM
I'm watching the Steeler-Panther game. McGlover showed some pretty good explosiveness dropping the RB behind the line. Two plays later he got to Mendenhall behind the line.

He's not an every-down stud, but might do in the DL rotation

LORK 88
08-31-2008, 06:55 PM
Decent pickup because of the potential he has, but at the same time this brings our number of DEs on the roster at 6 (7 including the practice squad). Other than Mario, I'm still worried we don't have a capable starter in the bunch.

CloakNNNdagger
08-31-2008, 10:50 PM
Decent pickup because of the potential he has, but at the same time this brings our number of DEs on the roster at 6 (7 including the practice squad). Other than Mario, I'm still worried we don't have a capable starter in the bunch.

I thought we were only carrying around 4........are you sure that you are not including DTs?

TexanAddict
09-01-2008, 02:41 AM
Carolina MB Thread (http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/84645-stanley-mcclover-better-cut.html)

I'll I've got to say is that, from this link, "Badbak" has an awesome avatar.

:splits:

ccdude730
09-01-2008, 03:07 AM
I'll I've got to say is that, from this link, "Badbak" has an awesome avatar.

:bouncey::bouncey:



:kingkong:

ObsiWan
09-01-2008, 03:29 AM
I thought we were only carrying around 4........are you sure that you are not including DTs?

We're carrying 5 each plus one, each on the P/S
DEs
Earl Cochran
N.D. Kalu
S. McClover
Jesse Nading (P/S)
Anthony Weaver
Mario Williams

DTs
Tim Bulman
Gabe Long (P/S)
Frank Okam
Amobi Okoye
DelJuan Robinson
Jeff Zgonina

LORK's right about one thing, other than Mario and maybe Amobi, who in that list commands any respect?
Maybe blue collar guys like Bulman and Cochran will step up on defense like Walter and Davis stepped up on offense last year.
Maybe Amobi and Okam will reach their "potential".
Maybe.....

Kaiser Toro
09-01-2008, 07:00 AM
McLover seems like a perfect fit for a DE within Smith's scheme. He can use his athleticism to drop back in coverage. :gun:

CloakNNNdagger
09-01-2008, 09:08 AM
McLover seems like a perfect fit for a DE within Smith's scheme. He can use his athleticism to drop back in coverage. :gun:

As his weight stands now, I would expect that he would fall in the category of pure pass rusher specialist with possible OLB hybrid. I don't know that he could be trusted in run situations. Kalu is the only light weight DE on the roster and he is serviceable in the run, but he is the wiley veteran. All of our other DEs pack significantly more weight. For those who may not know, McClover left college as a junior because he had to support his family. His playing weight in his 2 years at Auburn was somewhere between 245 and 250. He has actually since then brought his weight up to his present NFL weight of 262. How much more weight he can pack and maintain his speed is an important question, unless we keep him as a "specialist" only. This is especially important as height and weight play a big part in determining the proper position for some DE/DT tweeners as well as DE/OLB tweeners.

Specnatz
09-01-2008, 09:57 AM
McLover seems like a perfect fit for a DE within Smith's scheme. He can use his athleticism to drop back in coverage. :gun:

And all this talk about no one being able to figure out Smith's scheme.

beerlover
09-01-2008, 10:08 AM
And all this talk about no one being able to figure out Smith's scheme.

pass rushing version of nickel or dime- :specnatz:

ObsiWan
09-01-2008, 11:27 AM
And all this talk about no one being able to figure out Smith's scheme.

I'm sure they were using the term "scheme" very loosely

...its a "defensive scheme" in the same sense that Richard Justice is a football journalist.

CloakNNNdagger
09-01-2008, 11:39 AM
Smith's version of the "Steel Curtain":


http://bp3.blogger.com/_UGUMhjdqMms/R-Ftwg-WWsI/AAAAAAAACxY/HCo33pU6lso/s400/attractive%2Bbut%2Bweak%2Bdefense.jpg

Vinny
09-01-2008, 12:12 PM
It's no shock we picked up a youngster that shows some pass rushing potential since no edge rusher has really distinguished themselves on our roster other than Mario. Stopping the run is the element most of us overlook when discussing our lack of a pass rush though. If you can keep teams in 2nd and 3rd and long you have a better shot at getting to the QB. If you constantly give teams 2nd and 3rd and short, teams don't have to take long drops or run long patterns.

Specnatz
09-01-2008, 12:17 PM
It's no shock we picked up a youngster that shows some pass rushing potential since no edge rusher has really distinguished themselves on our roster other than Mario. Stopping the run is the element most of us overlook when discussing our lack of a pass rush though. If you can keep teams in 2nd and 3rd and long you have a better shot at getting to the QB. If you constantly give teams 2nd and 3rd and short, teams don't have to take long drops or run long patterns.

Some here are better at the X's and O's than I am, but the reason we do not stay in those types of situation is because this team can not defend the screen pass for crap. This preseason I saw so many screen passes that went for 15 + yards.

ObsiWan
09-01-2008, 12:58 PM
Smith's version of the "Steel Curtain":


http://bp3.blogger.com/_UGUMhjdqMms/R-Ftwg-WWsI/AAAAAAAACxY/HCo33pU6lso/s400/attractive%2Bbut%2Bweak%2Bdefense.jpg

:spit:

if I had been drinking anything, I would have spewed

cuppacoffee
09-01-2008, 04:29 PM
We're carrying 5 each plus one, each on the P/S
DEs
Earl Cochran
N.D. Kalu
S. McClover
Jesse Nading (P/S)
Anthony Weaver
Mario Williams

DTs
Tim Bulman
Gabe Long (P/S)
Frank Okam
Amobi Okoye
DelJuan Robinson
Jeff Zgonina

LORK's right about one thing, other than Mario and maybe Amobi, who in that list commands any respect?
Maybe blue collar guys like Bulman and Cochran will step up on defense like Walter and Davis stepped up on offense last year.
Maybe Amobi and Okam will reach their "potential".
Maybe.....

Alright now........are we gonna count the NT..:foottap:.:aggressive:.:foottap:

And just why is he listed as a nose tackle..I though that was a position in the 3-4 D.

:coffee:

Heath Shuler
09-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Two predraft reports predict him going in either the second or third round; how/why did he fall to the 7th?

ObsiWan
09-01-2008, 07:30 PM
Alright now........are we gonna count the NT..:foottap:.:aggressive:.:foottap:

And just why is he listed as a nose tackle..I though that was a position in the 3-4 D.

:coffee:

Thanks. How could I leave out ol' lovable T.J.?

I'm so ashamed...
:hides:

Texans_Chick
09-01-2008, 07:58 PM
It's no shock we picked up a youngster that shows some pass rushing potential since no edge rusher has really distinguished themselves on our roster other than Mario. Stopping the run is the element most of us overlook when discussing our lack of a pass rush though. If you can keep teams in 2nd and 3rd and long you have a better shot at getting to the QB. If you constantly give teams 2nd and 3rd and short, teams don't have to take long drops or run long patterns.

Well said:

Factors that inhibited the Texans pass rush in 2007 in no particular order:

1. Player ability to do it properly.
2. Run defense.
3. Crud secondary.
4. Texans playing from behind because the silly offense kept spitting up the ball last year, especially early in games. Playing from behind means that other teams don't have to throw to catch up.

As a part of the whole picture, Kubiak mentioned the defensive line imbalance at the end of the season. Basically, TJ/Okoye playing the same position, Weaver being more run minded, no big run stuffer fellow.

Things that could help that line would be:

1. Okoye improving from year one to year two.
2. Okam ending up being a run stuffer in the middle.
3. Mario Williams getting much better.
4. That the coordinator can make the defense look less vanilla. That they said they had to simplify things last year due to injuries in the secondary. Do things stay predictable for opposing offenses?
5. If the offense can get a running game, and turn into a points machine that takes time off the clock and also gets opposing teams taking more chances to catch up.
6. Ray Rhodes works some miracles with the secondary. Already there have been reports of him helping with line calls up front, so maybe his presence can have a positive effect.

My prediction is that the Texans defense will look better only against teams that have sorry quarterback play.

barrett
09-01-2008, 08:37 PM
6. Ray Rhodes works some miracles with the secondary. Already there have been reports of him helping with line calls up front, so maybe his presence can have a positive effect.
really? in what capacity? interesting?
My prediction is that the Texans defense will look better only against teams that have sorry quarterback play.

so we're better against the tacks! woohoo!

El Tejano
09-01-2008, 09:38 PM
http://thepiratesdilemma.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/mclovin-2.JPG

Excellent signing!

Nobody even knows his first name, they just call him McClover.

threetoedpete
09-02-2008, 01:47 AM
Whoever this guy is ..... even if he was stocking grocery shelves last week .... has to be an upgrade over Weaver. :headhurts:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/416284

one sack in seven games...that's what you got. As TC posted, just a guy with more production potential than Weaver. They bought a little hope here. Gave a guy with some up side a chance. Up to McClover to exercise the opportunity. He's an apple and a road map from being on the streets once again*.

* Spencer Tillman line from Sunday night.

The only player of real note above is former Notre Dame RB Walker. Still, on the practice squad, he won't see the field this season. None of the other aforementioned players have any Fantasy relevance at this time.

Now if I was McClover and some dweeb was writing that junk about me, I wasn't relevant....I'd be motivated.

threetoedpete
09-02-2008, 01:57 AM
Stanley.

gtexan02
09-10-2008, 01:26 PM
Looks like he's out for the year with a meniscus tear

Polo
09-18-2008, 02:12 PM
Why did the Texans Cut Coley ?

Texans are starting to upset me with some of their roster moves/non-moves. Not that he was going to make an impact but still....

infantrycak
09-18-2008, 02:17 PM
Why did the Texans Cut Coley ?

Texans are starting to upset me with some of their roster moves/non-moves. Not that he was going to make an impact but still....

If you don't think he was going to have an impact, why does it upset you?

Polo
09-18-2008, 02:22 PM
If you don't think he was going to have an impact, why does it upset you?

Well....I didn't think he was going to have an impact this season....

I did think that he could atleast be a good back-up special teamer next yr. from the little that I've seen of him...

Of course at the end of the day, the Texans staff is more familar with the players....so...que sara sara...

I dunno, but I just thought that his preformance in game 4 of the pre-season was enough to atleast warrant holding on to him to see if he developed into a player worthy of a roster spot...

GP
09-18-2008, 03:08 PM
The posters at the Carolina board had nothing positive to say. He seems to be Travis Johnson, Jr. A guy who talks the talk, and acts like a warrior, but just exactly where is he on each play?

Can't fault the front office for trying, though. Better than sticking with what ya' got and acting like it's OK.

You tend to get a pretty good idea, on an exiting player, by reading the fans' reactions. When we got Chris Meyers (C) from Denver, there was a lot of posters on the Denver board who were not happy about losing him. There was dancing in the streets of Oakland when Phyllis Buchanon left the Raiders. They laughed and said, "Oh, the poor Texans fans! Bwah-ha-ha!"

DiehardChris
09-18-2008, 03:29 PM
Well....I didn't think he was going to have an impact this season....

I did think that he could atleast be a good back-up special teamer next yr. from the little that I've seen of him...

Of course at the end of the day, the Texans staff is more familar with the players....so...que sara sara...

I dunno, but I just thought that his preformance in game 4 of the pre-season was enough to atleast warrant holding on to him to see if he developed into a player worthy of a roster spot...

Hey, he's on the practice squad. What more could they possibly do with him right now, when they're already keeping Adibi on the roster and injured?

Polo
09-18-2008, 03:38 PM
Hey, he's on the practice squad. What more could they possibly do with him right now, when they're already keeping Adibi on the roster and injured?

They cut him from the practice squad yesterday to add a TE.

DiehardChris
09-18-2008, 03:41 PM
They cut him from the practice squad yesterday to add a TE.

Totally missed that. Thanks for the correction.

Polo
09-18-2008, 04:06 PM
Totally missed that. Thanks for the correction.

Yeah...The only reaon I caught it was because I was reading the Texans practice report...

It was at the very end of the report...

J-Russ
09-18-2008, 06:56 PM
Hey, he's on the practice squad. What more could they possibly do with him right now, when they're already keeping Adibi on the roster and injured?

Adibi hasn't been showing up on the injury reports, so I assume he's healthy. We 're probably going to see him activated for Sunday's game, and we should see him play some on ST and maybe nickle D.

mexican_texan
09-18-2008, 06:59 PM
Is McLover healthy?

J-Russ
09-18-2008, 07:22 PM
Is McLover healthy?

The McLovin' factory has been shut down for the year. Better luck next season.

The Pencil Neck
09-18-2008, 08:45 PM
Is McLover healthy?

IRed.