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Andrew6
08-29-2008, 04:10 PM
at 3:30 today Texans will announce who they will be cutting, 20 more minutes

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:29 PM
I can hear Kubiak's fingers tapping on the podium already, and it hasn't even started.

Thorn
08-29-2008, 04:31 PM
OMG They cut Sage!

Just kidding. Yall can breath now.

LOL

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:31 PM
It's about to start.

Farough
08-29-2008, 04:33 PM
I'm tuned it, I hope it starts soon lol

Texan_Bill
08-29-2008, 04:33 PM
It's about to start.

got a link??

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 04:34 PM
got a link??

See this thread:
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53007

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:34 PM
Are they usually punctual to these things?

HOU-TEX
08-29-2008, 04:34 PM
got a link??

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv/index.asp?mm_file_id=2522&play_clip=Y

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 04:35 PM
ok volume on my work computer sucks so if anyone can interpert please do.

Farough
08-29-2008, 04:35 PM
Wow, wasn't expecting Colvin gone..

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:36 PM
Colvin is out.

Not running through the list though, they handed it out.

Chris Brown made the team. For now anyway, may change.

stiff
08-29-2008, 04:36 PM
Chris Brown is still alive they are evaluating him he may be the final cut.

76Texan
08-29-2008, 04:36 PM
Good bye Colvin, it was short and sweet!

texasguy346
08-29-2008, 04:37 PM
Anyone else having trouble viewing it?

Carr Bombed
08-29-2008, 04:37 PM
Wow, wasn't expecting Colvin gone..

Yeah and Chris Brown is still on the team.

Mailman
08-29-2008, 04:37 PM
I'm shocked about Colvin.

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 04:37 PM
Who is cut??

edit: Yikes, Colvin is gone?


Is Maddox gone? It sure sounded like they had to pick between Okam and Maddox. After a sack and an INT, I thought he'd be a lock

stiff
08-29-2008, 04:37 PM
Maddux is gone

Mailman
08-29-2008, 04:37 PM
Kubiak: taptaptaptaptaptaptap

Farough
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
So suprised about Maddux, was one of my favourites on the line

AnthonyE
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
I'm really not liking the cuts so far.

Mailman
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
Roberson's gone

Carr Bombed
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
Maddux is gone

Honestly I'd rather have him than T.J. That guy has always made a impact when given a chance.

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
Maddox is gone, Okam stays

Glenn Earl gone

stiff
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
earl might have ps eligibility?

J-Russ
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
Kubiak: taptaptaptaptaptaptap

Atleast he isn't saying "you know" or "absolutely" in every sentence.

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 04:39 PM
I'm disappointed Maddox was my favorite player

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 04:39 PM
Sheesh, he got half the sacks in the preseason AND an INT from the DL and he gets cut? Whats the deal Kubes

Farough
08-29-2008, 04:39 PM
These cuts are upsetting me.. lol

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:39 PM
Only 2 QB's, Sage and Matt

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 04:39 PM
Earl is gone too???

Walker is gone too??

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 04:39 PM
Roberson's gone

Sounds like he's headed for the practice squad.

J-Russ
08-29-2008, 04:39 PM
Honestly I'd rather have him than T.J. That guy has always made a impact when given a chance.

I'm sure he did, that's why TJ is cut and he's still on the team. oh wait....

Thorn
08-29-2008, 04:39 PM
Sheesh, he got half the sacks in the preseason AND an INT from the DL and he gets cut? Whats the deal Kubes

This suprises me as well.

stiff
08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
Honestly I'd rather have him than T.J. That guy has always made a impact when given a chance.

Agreed Kubiak said they went with youth in that position.

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
You keep FIVE safeties? Why?

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
Darius Walker is gone

Farough
08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
I don't understand keeping Brown and getting rid of Walker

Texan_Bill
08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
Thanks guys.... I'm a little slow today.. :drunk:

ChampionTexan
08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
Walker's gone (For now at least).

Mailman
08-29-2008, 04:40 PM
taptaptaptap

cracks me up.

Carr Bombed
08-29-2008, 04:41 PM
I'm sure he did, that's why TJ is cut and he's still on the team. oh wait....

Maddox made plays for this team, honestly I've never been impressed with Travis' play.

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:41 PM
Chaun Thompson and Adibi make the team

texasguy346
08-29-2008, 04:41 PM
I'm a bit surprised by Maddux. He was quite a find.

bigbrewster2000
08-29-2008, 04:41 PM
I don't understand keeping Brown and getting rid of Walker

because they will put Walker on the PS

Farough
08-29-2008, 04:42 PM
because they will put Walker on the PS

If he even makes it passed the pick ups

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:42 PM
Reeves is staying.

texasguy346
08-29-2008, 04:42 PM
You keep FIVE safeties? Why?

I'm guessing he likes the play on special teams of Harrison & Barber. I figured Earl was gone. He'll latch on somewhere as a backup SS.

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:44 PM
I wish they would post the entire list somewhere.

bigbrewster2000
08-29-2008, 04:44 PM
If he even makes it passed the pick ups

he will

stiff
08-29-2008, 04:44 PM
I wish the post the entire list somewhere.


It will be availble soon I am sure either on HT.com chron etc

Porky
08-29-2008, 04:44 PM
Do we have a full list yet?

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 04:44 PM
Sad, sad day :( :(

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:45 PM
Jamar Fletcher is gone, only carrying 4 CB's, :yikes:

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:46 PM
no "rock n roll" after Vandemeer's question, what a let down

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 04:47 PM
NAME POSITION HT. WT. COLLEGE
Jon Abbate FB 5-11 245 Wake Forest
Shane Boyd QB 6-1 232 Kentucky
Alex Brink QB 6-2 208 Washington St.
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE 6-3 250 Purdue
Glenn Earl S 6-1 215 Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger C 6-3 292 Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher CB 5-10 180 Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause TE 6-3 244 Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Anthony Maddox DT 6-1 305 Delta St.
LeRon McCoy WR 6-1 219 Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt LB 6-2 245 South Florida
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Marcel Shipp RB 5-11 224 Massachusetts
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Torrin Tucker T 6-6 315 Southern Miss.
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn CB 5-9 175 Colorado St. "

BigWig
08-29-2008, 04:47 PM
List is on the news section of the Teams website, total of 21, and some surprises.

I just saw Andrew6 beat me to it, thanks.

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 04:48 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4574

stiff
08-29-2008, 04:48 PM
Some obvious some shocks

1 more to go

Hardcore Texan
08-29-2008, 04:48 PM
NAME POSITION HT. WT. COLLEGE
Jon Abbate FB 5-11 245 Wake Forest
Shane Boyd QB 6-1 232 Kentucky
Alex Brink QB 6-2 208 Washington St.
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE 6-3 250 Purdue
Glenn Earl S 6-1 215 Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger C 6-3 292 Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher CB 5-10 180 Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause TE 6-3 244 Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Anthony Maddox DT 6-1 305 Delta St.
LeRon McCoy WR 6-1 219 Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt LB 6-2 245 South Florida
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Marcel Shipp RB 5-11 224 Massachusetts
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Torrin Tucker T 6-6 315 Southern Miss.
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn CB 5-9 175 Colorado St. "

Great find. Damn, I was pulling for Moffitt

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 04:49 PM
Jon Abbate FB 5-11 245 Wake Forest
Shane Boyd QB 6-1 232 Kentucky
Alex Brink QB 6-2 208 Washington St.
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE 6-3 250 Purdue
Glenn Earl S 6-1 215 Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger C 6-3 292 Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher CB 5-10 180 Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause TE 6-3 244 Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Anthony Maddox DT 6-1 305 Delta St.
LeRon McCoy WR 6-1 219 Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt LB 6-2 245 South Florida
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Marcel Shipp RB 5-11 224 Massachusetts
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Torrin Tucker T 6-6 315 Southern Miss.
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn CB 5-9 175 Colorado St.

bold are surprises to me

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 04:50 PM
Great find. Damn, I was pulling for Moffitt

Guys like Moffit and Roberson and Walker may likely end up on the practice squad.

Thorn
08-29-2008, 04:50 PM
So we are keeping both Chris Brown and Aman Green. I don't care for that, I really don't. Not that any of the backs did much this pre-season.......but still, why are we keeping all these broken down backs?

76Texan
08-29-2008, 04:51 PM
So Studdard stays?

Yankee_In_TX
08-29-2008, 04:52 PM
Sorry. Huge time lapse between hitting reply and post.

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 04:52 PM
So Studdard stays?

::: SIGH ::: he's got pictures of Kubiak in comprimising position. So yes Studdard stays.

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 04:52 PM
So we are keeping both Chris Brown and Aman Green. I don't care for that, I really don't. Not that any of the backs did much this pre-season.......but still, why are we keeping all these broken down backs?

Brown's future is still dependent upon his injury, he may still be gone.

jaayteetx
08-29-2008, 04:53 PM
So we are keeping both Chris Brown and Aman Green. I don't care for that, I really don't. Not that any of the backs did much this pre-season.......but still, why are we keeping all these broken down backs?

We still have to cut one more, Chris Brown very well could be that cut. My guess is they want to make sure he's healthy.

stiff
08-29-2008, 04:53 PM
So we are keeping both Chris Brown and Aman Green. I don't care for that, I really don't. Not that any of the backs did much this pre-season.......but still, why are we keeping all these broken down backs?

Not necessarily one more spot to go and Kubiak specifically mentioned that they are evaluating Browns injury. So it sounds like it is down to him and one other; prior to any waiver wire moves.

texasguy346
08-29-2008, 04:53 PM
So we are keeping both Chris Brown and Aman Green. I don't care for that, I really don't. Not that any of the backs did much this pre-season.......but still, why are we keeping all these broken down backs?

Simple we're going to use one as our feature back, and then we'll use the other for scrap parts when our feature back ultimately breaks down & stalls. I can see it now Green running down the sidelines with his brand new set of Chris Brown legs.

Allstar
08-29-2008, 04:53 PM
I hope cutting Colvin doesn't bite us in the future.

beerlover
08-29-2008, 04:54 PM
Jon Abbate FB 5-11 245 Wake Forest
Shane Boyd QB 6-1 232 Kentucky
Alex Brink QB 6-2 208 Washington St.
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE 6-3 250 Purdue
Glenn Earl S 6-1 215 Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger C 6-3 292 Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher CB 5-10 180 Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause TE 6-3 244 Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Anthony Maddox DT 6-1 305 Delta St.
LeRon McCoy WR 6-1 219 Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt LB 6-2 245 South Florida
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Marcel Shipp RB 5-11 224 Massachusetts
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Torrin Tucker T 6-6 315 Southern Miss.
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn CB 5-9 175 Colorado St.

bold are surprises to me

Maddox is the only surprise to me & I'll bet is resigned should he clear waivers

76Texan
08-29-2008, 04:54 PM
So how much did we pay Colvin for his time here this summer?

Polo
08-29-2008, 04:55 PM
Jon Abbate FB 5-11 245 Wake Forest
Shane Boyd QB 6-1 232 Kentucky
Alex Brink QB 6-2 208 Washington St.
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE 6-3 250 Purdue
Glenn Earl S 6-1 215 Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger C 6-3 292 Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher CB 5-10 180 Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause TE 6-3 244 Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Anthony Maddox DT 6-1 305 Delta St.
LeRon McCoy WR 6-1 219 Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt LB 6-2 245 South Florida
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Marcel Shipp RB 5-11 224 Massachusetts
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Torrin Tucker T 6-6 315 Southern Miss.
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn CB 5-9 175 Colorado St.

bold are surprises to me

...

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 04:55 PM
I hope cutting Colvin doesn't bite us in the future.

How would it?

He looked horrid, and after his preseason he is not likely to get another shot somewhere.

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 04:55 PM
I've liked Maddox since the game against the browns where the big guy ran one back for a touchdown.

Farough
08-29-2008, 04:57 PM
I've liked Maddox since the game against the browns where the big guy ran one back for a touchdown.

Me too, thats the most suprising cut in my opinion. I figured he had done enough to stay.

ChampionTexan
08-29-2008, 04:57 PM
How would it?

He looked horrid, and after his preseason he is not likely to get another shot somewhere.

Agreed - I'd have lots more questions/concerns if they'd kept Colvin.

BornOrange
08-29-2008, 04:58 PM
Maddox has too much experience to be on the practice squad. He will be playing somewhere else this season.

Zgonina didn't get cut??

Carr Bombed
08-29-2008, 05:00 PM
I still don't understand the Anthony Maddox cut.....in 12 starts for Houston, Maddox had 53 tcks and 4 sacks

In 24 starts Travis Johnson has 78 tcks and only 1 career sack.

Maddox is a good football player....playing on a line that needs good football players. bad move

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 05:02 PM
I still don't understand the Anthony Maddox cut.....in 12 starts for Houston Maddox had 53 tcks and 4 sacks

In 24 starts Travis Johnson has 78 tcks and only 1 career sack

It sounded like Okam bet out Maddox not TJ. Kubiak was saying that the final cut at DT came down to Okam and Maddox, and the team went with the young guy.

Carr Bombed
08-29-2008, 05:03 PM
It sounded like Okam bet out Maddox not TJ. Kubiak was saying that the final cut at DT came down to Okam and Maddox, and the team went with the young guy.

Yeah I know, I liked keeping Okam........I'm saying Maddox should've been kept over other people.

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 05:04 PM
It sounded like Okam bet out Maddox not TJ. Kubiak was saying that the final cut at DT came down to Okam and Maddox, and the team went with the young guy.

Okam hasn't shown me enough to want to cut maddox over him. Maddox may have some age on him but he doesn't have much wear. He wasn't a starter but had the ability to do so.

dalemurphy
08-29-2008, 05:08 PM
Maddox has too much experience to be on the practice squad. He will be playing somewhere else this season.

Zgonina didn't get cut??



NOOOOOOOO!!

It's the perfect storm: Zgoniga, Bruener, Salaam, Ferguson, Studdard, Chris Brown all make the team. And they cut Maddox and say that they went with the young guy... Now that's funny!

p.s. I know Studdard's not old, but damn he sucks!

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 05:08 PM
Okam hasn't shown me enough to want to cut maddox over him. Maddox may have some age on him but he doesn't have much wear. He wasn't a starter but had the ability to do so.

Okam doesn't have to show you anything. Kubiak and Co. have seen about 1000x plays of Maddok, Okam , and Johnson then us fans; and with the staff's performance over the last few seasons I'm more then willing to trust them on this.

The fact that Maddox might have started for us in the past is more a statement about or lack of talent and depth then it is Maddox's ability.

76Texan
08-29-2008, 05:09 PM
Maddox has too much experience to be on the practice squad. He will be playing somewhere else this season.

Zgonina didn't get cut??
I like Zgonina's work ethic, and the guy really keeps in shape, but yeah, I thought we shoulda kept Anthony over Jeff.

Andrew6
08-29-2008, 05:10 PM
Okam doesn't have to show you anything. Kubiak and Co. have seen about 1000x plays of Maddok, Okam , and Johnson then us fans; and with there performance over the last few seasons I'm more then willing to trust them on this.

The fact that Maddox might have started for us in the past is more a statement about or lack of talent and depth then it is Maddox's ability.

::: sigh ::: maybe your right, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Now what am I going to do with all my I love Maddox posters :( lol:foottap:

Texan_Bill
08-29-2008, 05:11 PM
Ummmmm, Did I miss Chris Brown being on that list???

Carr Bombed
08-29-2008, 05:12 PM
The fact that Maddox might have started for us in the past is more a statement about or lack of talent and depth then it is Maddox's ability.

That argument might actually work if Maddox was a bum on the field, but he wasn't......usually he out-played the guy infront of him when he got a chance. That says more about our starters, not the depth we have....had.

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 05:13 PM
That argument might actually work if Maddox was a bum on the field, but he wasn't......usually he out-played the guy infront of him when he got a chance. That says more about our starters, not the depth we have....had.

Maybe in the eyes of the coaches he didn't outplay those in front of him?

Carr Bombed
08-29-2008, 05:14 PM
Maybe in the eyes of the coaches he didn't outplay those in front of him?

Well than I might start to worry about our Dline/defensive coaches

J-Russ
08-29-2008, 05:14 PM
We should all know by now that Kubiak puts the best players out on the field. There's a reason why TJ is still starting for Kubiak in his 3rd season with him. One reason is because we had no one better the last three years. Clearly some people can't see what Kubiak can.

thunderkyss
08-29-2008, 05:15 PM
So how much did we pay Colvin for his time here this summer?

Cap wise, it doesn't matter....

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 05:15 PM
I wish they would post the entire list somewhere.

From HT.com

NAME----------POS.---HT.---WT.---COLLEGE
Jon Abbate......FB.....5-11...245...Wake Forest
Shane Boyd......QB......6-1...232...Kentucky
Alex Brink......QB......6-2...208...Washington St.
Kevis Coley.....LB......6-1...228...Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE......6-3...250...Purdue
Glenn Earl.......S......6-1...215...Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger....C......6-3...292...Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher..CB.....5-10...180...Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR.....5-10...188...Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause.....TE......6-3...244...Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long.......DT......6-3...290...Utah
Anthony Maddox..DT......6-1...305...Delta St.
LeRon McCoy.....WR......6-1...219...Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt.....LB......6-2...245...South Florida
Jesse Nading....DE......6-5...258...Colorado St.
DerrickRoberson CB.....5-10...185...Rutgers
Marcel Shipp....RB.....5-11...224...Massachusetts
Mark Simmons....WR.....5-10...187...Kansas
Torrin Tucker....T......6-6...315...Southern Miss.
Darius Walker...RB.....5-11...205...Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn.....CB......5-9...175...Colorado St.

76Texan
08-29-2008, 05:16 PM
Ummmmm, Did I miss Chris Brown being on that list???

Darn it! I've been saving a Chris Brown joke for a few days now! :scarygirl:

Carr Bombed
08-29-2008, 05:22 PM
We should all know by now that Kubiak puts the best players out on the field. There's a reason why TJ is still starting for Kubiak in his 3rd season with him. One reason is because we had no one better the last three years. Clearly some people can't see what Kubiak can.

Remember, Kubiak had Carr starting infront of Sage too. Sometimes it's not about the best players, it's about where they were drafted and how much money they make. He's also going to be starting atleast one broken down back at RB

If Kubiak always put the best players on the field then Maddox would be on this team........not Okam.

But yeah, in Kubiak we trust.....it's his neck on the line, not mine.

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 05:29 PM
I hope cutting Colvin doesn't bite us in the future.

They tried to make him a DE. Didn't work. Too light and not enough quickness off the ball from a 3-pt stance. He seemed to be more at home last night blitzing from a LB position. ....but then that was against 2nd teamers.

I, too, a bit disappointed that Maddox didn't make it. ...but I think they decided Okam has more "upside" while Maddox may have max'ed out.
I'm impressed that Colvin was dumped so Cochran and Bulman could stay.

Regarding Chris Brown, wouldn't they have to reach an injury settlement to cut him? That could be why he's still here.

Honoring Earl 34
08-29-2008, 05:30 PM
I still don't understand the Anthony Maddox cut.....in 12 starts for Houston, Maddox had 53 tcks and 4 sacks

In 24 starts Travis Johnson has 78 tcks and only 1 career sack.

Maddox is a good football player....playing on a line that needs good football players. bad move

Maddox is a good player but he was ... in my oinion ... to much like TJ and Okoye size wise .

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 05:37 PM
Surprised with Bruener. But we need 3 TEs

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 05:38 PM
I can almost guarantee you that Colvin gets picked up by the Browns, Phins, or Cowboys

HoustonFrog
08-29-2008, 05:43 PM
Is it just me or was it a surprise Harrison made it at safety. I thought he was a cut according to many.

ChampionTexan
08-29-2008, 05:47 PM
I can almost guarantee you that Colvin gets picked up by the Browns, Phins, or Cowboys

And can you tell us if he will suck any less for one of them than he did for us?

SheTexan
08-29-2008, 05:51 PM
So Studdard stays?

Nice to have friends in HIGH places! :rolleyes:

Specnatz
08-29-2008, 05:52 PM
Maddox has too much experience to be on the practice squad. He will be playing somewhere else this season.

Zgonina didn't get cut??

From HT.com

NAME----------POS.---HT.---WT.---COLLEGE
Jon Abbate......FB.....5-11...245...Wake Forest
Shane Boyd......QB......6-1...232...Kentucky
Alex Brink......QB......6-2...208...Washington St.
Kevis Coley.....LB......6-1...228...Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE......6-3...250...Purdue
Glenn Earl.......S......6-1...215...Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger....C......6-3...292...Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher..CB.....5-10...180...Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR.....5-10...188...Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause.....TE......6-3...244...Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long.......DT......6-3...290...Utah
Anthony Maddox..DT......6-1...305...Delta St.
LeRon McCoy.....WR......6-1...219...Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt.....LB......6-2...245...South Florida
Jesse Nading....DE......6-5...258...Colorado St.
DerrickRoberson CB.....5-10...185...Rutgers
Marcel Shipp....RB.....5-11...224...Massachusetts
Mark Simmons....WR.....5-10...187...Kansas
Torrin Tucker....T......6-6...315...Southern Miss.
Darius Walker...RB.....5-11...205...Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn.....CB......5-9...175...Colorado St.


I thought they were going to keep Coley over Zgonia for sure . I am shocked on that one.


NOOOOOOOO!!

It's the perfect storm: Zgoniga, Bruener, Salaam, Ferguson, Studdard, Chris Brown all make the team. And they cut Maddox and say that they went with the young guy... Now that's funny!

p.s. I know Studdard's not old, but damn he sucks!

You see Dale, Kubiak called me last night and asked all the guys you truely hated and after I told him great thanks that is who we were going to keep.

76Texan
08-29-2008, 05:58 PM
Nice to have friends in HIGH places! :rolleyes:

I need me a few of those! :headhurts:

I do like Studdard's motor, but I think he still needs some time to develop! :bat:

76Texan
08-29-2008, 05:59 PM
you see dale, kubiak called me last night and asked all the guys you truely hated and after i told him great thanks that is who we were going to keep.

hahahaha!

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 06:13 PM
Surprised with Bruener. But we need 3 TEs

Bruener's the best blocking TE of the bunch. Dreesen (and Zgonina too) can be used as LS in a pinch.

dalemurphy
08-29-2008, 06:15 PM
Bruener's the best blocking TE of the bunch. Dreesen (and Zgonina too) can be used as LS in a pinch.

Sure, but why not just go tackle elibible... I'm pretty sure that Butler, Frye, and probably even Salaam are quicker, more agile, and all except for Salaam are better blockers.

MojoMan
08-29-2008, 06:34 PM
Here is a link to the revised depth chart:

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.asp

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 06:47 PM
aj! are you on the radio?

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 06:48 PM
Sure, but why not just go tackle elibible... I'm pretty sure that Butler, Frye, and probably even Salaam are quicker, more agile, and all except for Salaam are better blockers.

They could. But once in a blue moon, they actually throw the ball to Bruener ...and he catches it. (that's the blue moon part)

Thorn
08-29-2008, 06:50 PM
We'll be looking to sign bodies at running back after the 2nd or 3rd game. Mark my words.

ChampionTexan
08-29-2008, 06:53 PM
We'll be looking to sign bodies at running back after the 2nd or 3rd game. Mark my words.

We may be signing them before then. I'm going to be very surprised if there aren't a few of waiver wire guys brought in, which would mean guys currently on the 53 (actually 54 at the moment) man roster being cut.

Jackie Chiles
08-29-2008, 06:56 PM
I think IR might be a little dramatic but anyone think Chris Brown might be headed for the PUP? Maybe he comes back strong or maybe we just prolong the inevitable cut.

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 07:00 PM
I think IR might be a little dramatic but anyone think Chris Brown might be headed for the PUP? Maybe he comes back strong or maybe we just prolong the inevitable cut.

I would hope if he doesn't pass muster, he get cut. There's bound to be someone on the waiver wire that brings more to the table than BadBackBrown

Texan JBZ
08-29-2008, 07:23 PM
I was surprised a Maddox getting the axe. Just doesn't make sense to keep old fart Zgonina and cut a younger DT. To me, Maddox had the best burst off the ball of all the DTs on the team. Also, the team keeps Petey Faggins for..another..year:headhurts:!! Don't quite understand that one, but..

On a positive note, Deljuan Robinson made the team. Think he deserved to with his play. I would have preferred to keep Colvin over Weaver, but that's not a big issue since both pretty much suck right now. Hope Kevis Coley, Mark Simmons, Leron McCoy, Nading, and Boyd get added to practice squad. Hope Chris Brown gets added to the waiver wire.:texflag:

kiwitexansfan
08-29-2008, 08:07 PM
Here is a link to the revised depth chart:

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.asp

Wow, I'm so glad that we are 3 deep at long snapper.

ArlingtonTexan
08-29-2008, 08:23 PM
Okam hasn't shown me enough to want to cut maddox over him. Maddox may have some age on him but he doesn't have much wear. He wasn't a starter but had the ability to do so.

Many of these moves are in anticipation that the younger player has room to get better. Probably more of a question if Maddox or Zgoninia would be better in the short term.

Allstar
08-29-2008, 09:18 PM
How would it?

He looked horrid, and after his preseason he is not likely to get another shot somewhere.

I bet Indy signs him. (Colvin) They wanted him before, but we offered him more. He grew up and played College in Purdue (I think) too. He looked absolutely horrible this preseason, but he was transitioning to a new position and recovering from an injury. I don't expect him to do anything this year, but crazier things have happened and we know that at least one point in his career, he could play at a very high level.

Seņor Stan
08-29-2008, 09:19 PM
I bet Indy signs him. (Colvin) They wanted him before, but we offered him more. He grew up and played College in Purdue (I think) too. He looked absolutely horrible this preseason, but he was transitioning to a new position and recovering from an injury. I don't expect him to do anything this year, but crazier things have happened and we know that at least one point in his career, he could play at a very high level.


'Bout dang time Indy starts signing our castoffs.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2008, 09:26 PM
You keep FIVE safeties? Why?

Special Teams.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2008, 09:30 PM
So how much did we pay Colvin for his time here this summer?

I believe that's $1,000,000.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2008, 09:34 PM
I think IR might be a little dramatic but anyone think Chris Brown might be headed for the PUP? Maybe he comes back strong or maybe we just prolong the inevitable cut.

They can't put him on PUP now. They had to put him on PUP at the beginning of the preseason and then transition him from pre-season PUP to the regular season PUP.

Their only choices are IR or cutting him.

EDIT: OR leaving him on the team.

edo783
08-29-2008, 10:18 PM
They can't put him on PUP now. They had to put him on PUP at the beginning of the preseason and then transition him from pre-season PUP to the regular season PUP.

Their only choices are IR or cutting him.

EDIT: OR leaving him on the team.

The delay may be from working out an injury settlement. They had an MRI done a couple of days ago and have been/are reviewing it, which sounds to me like they are trying to determine the extent of the problem.

JayCee
08-30-2008, 05:38 AM
Cap wise, it doesn't matter....

can you bring me up to speed - is that because he was cut before the regular season?

aj.
08-30-2008, 07:34 AM
aj! are you on the radio?

Yes, that was me.

They kept talking about the Texans keeping "10" offensive linemen. Kubiak made mention of them being heavy at OL during the presser and knowing they kept Washburn (which makes it 11 for another day or two at least) I thought I'd call and make the point about the 11 OLs including 6 that can play tackle.

By that point in the show, they had gone through all the positions and hadn't mentioned Washburn and the roster spot he will occupy until (I'm guessing) that they are fully convinced that Butler's shoulder checks out okay (and hopefully there's nothing going on with Salaam)... and I thought that was noteworthy and getting lost in the Maddox/Colvin reaction.

Colvin's impact capwise is minimal. He had $1 million of his base guaranteed over for '08 and '09 and that's all that has to be dealt with. He also had a roster bonus in there but I'm guessing that was contingent on him making the team - so that would be a non effect capwise. Since he's a post June 1 cut, I'd assume they can split his dead money over this year and next at $500k per year.

Dancerdog
08-30-2008, 10:55 AM
Maybe I'm being a little sentimental, but I'm glad to see N.D. Kalu make the cut. He does have one heck of a work ethic and has been a decent player for us. I was surprised by the Maddox cut, but I'm happy to see Okam make the team. Now it's time for him to get his motor running. I'm excited to see who we sign to the practice squad. Pittsburgh is next up. I'm ready to see what we can really do in some actual games that count. C'mon Texans. We're hoping for great things this season.