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The Pencil Neck
08-25-2008, 04:06 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5963831.html

Harry has been told his career is over.

Cook was released and Abbate has taken his spot on the roster.

HOU-TEX
08-25-2008, 04:27 PM
Man, that truly sucks. The man was busting his hump to make this team. I wish him well on his recovery and future.

:texflag:

76Texan
08-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Dang it!

badboy
08-25-2008, 04:40 PM
Will that be two of the 5?

barrett
08-25-2008, 04:41 PM
well since abbate was signed, no. that would be 1.

Malloy
08-25-2008, 04:47 PM
I hope the NFL hands him a big bag of $$. Sucky to see ones career go down the drain in a day :I

JWarren14
08-25-2008, 04:47 PM
Is it possible to write anyone to make a limited number of H. Williams # 86 jerseys and/or T-shirts and for those purchased a portion will be donated to a charity say like National Spinal Cord Injury Association or The Gridiron Greats Fund

Any ideas....I would buy a Jersey and a Shirt

As soon as I saw Cook got arrested I knew Jon would come back

Joe Texan
08-25-2008, 04:55 PM
Harry is a definate loss to this team, While cook has his head where the sun don't shine.

Prayers need to be sent Harry's way for a speedy recovery

ledzeppelin229
08-25-2008, 05:12 PM
Hopefully Harry has some other options. Guys that gambled it all on football (and other sports) often don't have much of an alternate skill set.

Malloy
08-25-2008, 05:15 PM
Is it possible to write anyone to make a limited number of H. Williams # 86 jerseys and/or T-shirts and for those purchased a portion will be donated to a charity say like National Spinal Cord Injury Association or The Gridiron Greats Fund

Any ideas....I would buy a Jersey and a Shirt

As soon as I saw Cook got arrested I knew Jon would come back

That is actually a real good idea! Consider contacting the Texans administration with this idea ? Its one of these feel-good things that they cant refuse.

HOU-TEX
08-25-2008, 05:21 PM
That is actually a real good idea! Consider contacting the Texans administration with this idea ? Its one of these feel-good things that they cant refuse.

I often peruse the "questions for Nick" thread on the other board and he's apparently in the process of setting something up.

Originally Posted by Xetuoh1836
Besides all of our prayers and thought for Harry, could you or the organization set up a "get well" email spot, either here or the main page, specifically to send our encouragement to this "warrior" and fellow Texan?

Thanks! (And Harry, if you read this, get well soon!)

Originally Posted by nscurfield
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm setting up something now.

NS

http://68.252.159.115/showthread.php?t=7061&page=29

Here's a thread you can post your well wishes. Nick says he's going to print it off and show Harry when he arrives in Houston.

Even if you don't like that board go over and wish Harry well anyways.

http://68.252.159.115/showthread.php?t=7928

Silver Oak
08-25-2008, 05:55 PM
I seem to recall that when Frank Bush was a rookie and had some sort of injury that ended his career immediately. The Oilers (Mike Holovak?) gave him a job and he's worked his way up since then.

Maybe RS and Mr. McNair can see fit to find a staff position for Harry if he's coach material.

Insideop
08-25-2008, 07:34 PM
Well, sorry to hear about Harry, but after seeing that hit I knew he would probably not be playing football anymore. The way he was playing I think he had a good shot of making this team. It's just too bad it had to happen.

One guy's career is over because of injury, and another guy's career maybe over because he chose to throw it away. What can you say about Cook except don't let the door hit you on the way out! Dumb#ss! On the bright side, I love that Abbate is coming back!

Shaft75
08-26-2008, 01:20 AM
While watching sportscenter tonight I saw stories of chad johnson's torn labrum, brady's boot, umenyiora's knee, manning's whatever, merriman's pcl........

But NOTHING about this poor guy's career being over. Kevin Everett(also a special teamer) was all over the place when he got hurt and even on the Espy's.

What's the difference? The Texans not being on the east coast?

The man's career was ended and it just scrolls along the bottom, as if they are saying, "no biggie, but some guys neck got broken and career was ended this weekend...". Makes me sick.

Sorry, I just had to get that out.

Hardcore Texan
08-26-2008, 11:27 PM
From HT.com, nothing new except from Tim Carter and Fenton, and not too suprising at that.

Released FB Jameel Cook and WR Tim Carter.
Waived G Mark Fenton.
Placed WR Harry Williams and OL Scott Jackson on the reserve/injured list.
Placed CB Dunta Robinson on the reserve/PUP list.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

*edit - thanks for merging KT, I looked but didn't find the appropriate thread to put it in.

kiwitexansfan
08-26-2008, 11:35 PM
From HT.com, nothing new except from Tim Carter and Fenton, and not too suprising at that.

Released FB Jameel Cook and WR Tim Carter.
Waived G Mark Fenton.
Placed WR Harry Williams and OL Scott Jackson on the reserve/injured list.
Placed CB Dunta Robinson on the reserve/PUP list.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

*edit - thanks for merging KT, I looked but didn't find the appropriate thread to put it in.

So what does that have our roster number at?

Anymore to go for the first round of cuts?

ChampionTexan
08-26-2008, 11:43 PM
So what does that have our roster number at?

Anymore to go for the first round of cuts?

Should be at 75 now with no cuts needed before Sunday (unless they sign somebody before then).

kiwitexansfan
08-26-2008, 11:50 PM
Should be at 75 now with no cuts needed before Sunday (unless they sign somebody before then).

Thanks Champ.

I guess things get really interesting Friday when the knives really come out.

The Pencil Neck
08-27-2008, 02:09 AM
Should be at 75 now with no cuts needed before Sunday (unless they sign somebody before then).

The cuts actually have to be in on Saturday, I think. But Smithiak has said that they're going to decide the cuts on Friday and tell the guys then.

beerlover
08-27-2008, 05:57 AM
they're going to be on the fence in a couple key areas, WR/special teams, DL, RB & CB. they stated the obvious making the it to the 75 roster limit but as yet have really cut no one expected to be there opening day. Any significant additions/subtractions will come post Friday. Starting with the game this thursday its going to be an eventful week leading up to the start of the 08 season. :)

aj.
08-27-2008, 08:12 AM
Kevin Everett(also a special teamer) was all over the place when he got hurt and even on the Espy's.

What's the difference? The Texans not being on the east coast?


The difference is that in the hours immediately following his injury, Everett and his family (and the nation via media reports) were not only told he might never walk again, they were told he might not live. He couldn't breathe without assistance and the situation was so grave that the docs did that semi-controversial cold saline IV to help relieve the pressure on his spinal cord before emergency surgery was performed the next day to realign the dislocation.

Harry's injury was obviously very serious and quite scary, but from what Kubiak said, he regained movement in all extremities by the time the game was over and his situation was never considered life threatening nor was it being treated as an emergency like Everett's situation.

Yes it's a damm shame that it's a career ender (like Killings last year) but at least he - apparently - will regain full function and be able to lead a normal life physically. Hopefully Bob will pay him whatever his full base salary would have been this year to help get him back on his feet so to speak. Maybe Coach Joe can find an opening for a special assistant.

My brother in-law recently had cervical spine surgery at Methodist for a different reason. It included fusion (with metal strips and screws) involving C3 and C4 and a bone graft from his hip into C4. It was two separate surgeries a few days apart - one from the front and one from the back complete with the brain probe and electrical impulse sensors on his extremities during the procedure (they did the one from the back with him in a sitting position leaning forward). It's pretty amazing what these neuro/orthopedic guys can do when working right on top of the spinal cord. And he got some pretty cool x-rays to show family and friends afterward ...

As far as roster cuts, no real surprises yet. There are some interesting decisions coming...

CloakNNNdagger
08-27-2008, 09:30 AM
The cuts actually have to be in on Saturday, I think. But Smithiak has said that they're going to decide the cuts on Friday and tell the guys then.


The official deadline for the final Saturday at 3 p.m. central time.


And after the final cutdown, the eight-player practice squad may be established as early as Aug. 31.

badboy
08-27-2008, 02:55 PM
What is the thought behind bringing Abbatte back at this time? Seems to me if he was better than others on the team, he would have been brought back before and some one else let go in an even swap. We seem to be deep at linebacker and maybe they want him for FB. If so, does that say anything about Taylor not being the back up at FB? Puzzling move to me.

HOU-TEX
08-27-2008, 03:22 PM
What is the thought behind bringing Abbatte back at this time? Seems to me if he was better than others on the team, he would have been brought back before and some one else let go in an even swap. We seem to be deep at linebacker and maybe they want him for FB. If so, does that say anything about Taylor not being the back up at FB? Puzzling move to me.

A fill in for Thursdays game maybe? His odds of making the team is slim to none.

hadaad
08-27-2008, 03:25 PM
What is the thought behind bringing Abbatte back at this time? Seems to me if he was better than others on the team, he would have been brought back before and some one else let go in an even swap. We seem to be deep at linebacker and maybe they want him for FB. If so, does that say anything about Taylor not being the back up at FB? Puzzling move to me.

I still think it's special teams. Williams excelled at it and there was a spot for him just for that. They had to let Cook go because of his 'issues' and he was around mainly for special teams. I think they brought back Abbate to see if he can still get it done on ST. If he shows he can against the Bucs, I think there's a spot for him.

The Pencil Neck
08-27-2008, 04:01 PM
What is the thought behind bringing Abbatte back at this time? Seems to me if he was better than others on the team, he would have been brought back before and some one else let go in an even swap. We seem to be deep at linebacker and maybe they want him for FB. If so, does that say anything about Taylor not being the back up at FB? Puzzling move to me.


With Cook and Williams leaving, we needed another body at fullback and we needed someone to play special teams. I think that Abbate fills both of those roles. He's probably not going to make the 53 but he could make the PS.

gary
08-27-2008, 05:07 PM
Who's Abbate?

hadaad
08-27-2008, 05:10 PM
John Abbate, an undrafted Free Agent last year. He played linebacker at... um... Wake Forest? They converted him to fullback last year and I think he was on the bubble when he got injured. They put him on the IR. They cut him earlier this offseason and then when Cook got busted and cut, they re-signed Abbate to take his place.

There was a pretty touching piece about how he remembers his brother every game by lifting his hand in the air with his fingers spread to represent his brother's jersey number 5.

I hope he makes the team on the strength of his special teams play.

gary
08-27-2008, 05:35 PM
Thank you.

TEXANRED
08-28-2008, 10:49 PM
My obvious cuts:

Chris Brown
Alex Brink
Boyd
Abbati (sp?)
Fry
Wynn
Bulman
Jenkins
Eslinger
Simmons
Long
Earl
Barber
Colvin

Texanmike02
08-28-2008, 11:52 PM
While watching sportscenter tonight I saw stories of chad johnson's torn labrum, brady's boot, umenyiora's knee, manning's whatever, merriman's pcl........

But NOTHING about this poor guy's career being over. Kevin Everett(also a special teamer) was all over the place when he got hurt and even on the Espy's.

What's the difference? The Texans not being on the east coast?

The man's career was ended and it just scrolls along the bottom, as if they are saying, "no biggie, but some guys neck got broken and career was ended this weekend...". Makes me sick.

Sorry, I just had to get that out.

I boycotted the Olympics coverage this time around for a similar reason. The Army and Marines are doing an amazing job in Iraq but nobody wants to tell the world about that. But let someone win a medal and its 2 weeks of non stop coverage.

Mike

buddyboy
08-29-2008, 01:37 AM
My obvious cuts:

Chris Brown
Alex Brink
Boyd
Abbati (sp?)
Fry
Wynn
Bulman
Jenkins
Eslinger
Simmons
Long
Earl
Barber
Colvin

I'm thinking these three make the team, just for argument's sake.

Lucky
08-29-2008, 01:48 AM
We're trying to reserve this thread for the actual cuts (and discussion). There's a thread opened here (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53038) where you can make your predictions on who stays and goes.

The Dude Abides
08-29-2008, 01:34 PM
Don't forget the cuts are announced live today at 3:30 pm

Farough
08-29-2008, 04:36 PM
Chris Brown stays lol interesting..

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 04:41 PM
Cuts:
Rosevelt Colvin
Glenn Earl
Darius Walker
Marcel Shipp
Alex Brink
Shane Boyd
Anthony Maddox
D Roberson

Thorn
08-29-2008, 04:43 PM
Well they but both Boyd and Brink. there goes my theory they'd keep three active QBs. Well, who ever survives the wavier wire between these two will be on the practice squad then.

Ole Miss Texan
08-29-2008, 04:43 PM
Cuts:
Rosevelt Colvin- too bad he didn't work out
Glenn Earl- wow
Darius Walker- aaww man!
Marcel Shipp- okay
Alex Brink- looked good, PS hopefully
Shane Boyd- didn't look bad
Anthony Maddox- aaaw man!
D Roberson- aawww man!

:bat: my thoughts above

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 04:45 PM
Jamar Fletcher is gone

texasguy346
08-29-2008, 04:45 PM
Fletcher being cut is the biggest surprise to me thus far.

J-Russ
08-29-2008, 04:50 PM
Dan "The Beast" Bazuin DE was cut by the Bears. Second round pick last year.

Ryan Moats is also available.

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 04:52 PM
Well they but both Boyd and Brink. there goes my theory they'd keep three active QBs. Well, who ever survives the wavier wire between these two will be on the practice squad then.

I was with you. I thought Boyd would be the 3rd guy and they'd try and sneak Brink onto the P/S.

Porky
08-29-2008, 04:53 PM
Fletcher was cut? Wow. I would keep him over burnt toast redux. :gun:

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 04:53 PM
Cuts:
Rosevelt Colvin
Glenn Earl
Darius Walker
Marcel Shipp
Alex Brink
Shane Boyd
Anthony Maddox
D Roberson

Walker and Brink may resurface on the P/S.
Maddox is a slight surprise.

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 05:11 PM
From HT.com

NAME----------POS.---HT.---WT.---COLLEGE
Jon Abbate......FB.....5-11...245...Wake Forest
Shane Boyd......QB......6-1...232...Kentucky
Alex Brink......QB......6-2...208...Washington St.
Kevis Coley.....LB......6-1...228...Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE......6-3...250...Purdue
Glenn Earl.......S......6-1...215...Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger....C......6-3...292...Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher..CB.....5-10...180...Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR.....5-10...188...Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause.....TE......6-3...244...Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long.......DT......6-3...290...Utah
Anthony Maddox..DT......6-1...305...Delta St.
LeRon McCoy.....WR......6-1...219...Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt.....LB......6-2...245...South Florida
Jesse Nading....DE......6-5...258...Colorado St.
DerrickRoberson CB.....5-10...185...Rutgers
Marcel Shipp....RB.....5-11...224...Massachusetts
Mark Simmons....WR.....5-10...187...Kansas
Torrin Tucker....T......6-6...315...Southern Miss.
Darius Walker...RB.....5-11...205...Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn.....CB......5-9...175...Colorado St.

badboy
08-29-2008, 05:21 PM
I boycotted the Olympics coverage this time around for a similar reason. The Army and Marines are doing an amazing job in Iraq but nobody wants to tell the world about that. But let someone win a medal and its 2 weeks of non stop coverage.

Mike"fighting soldiers from the sky. Brave young men that jump and die." Ballad of the Green Beret.

"We fight for right and honor and to keep our country free." Marine Corps hymn.

gtexan02
08-29-2008, 05:35 PM
Odd change of topic.

DiehardChris
08-29-2008, 05:36 PM
Okay, WTF. The Chronicle now says that Tim Bulman was cut... but according to the main site, he's not. I'm guessing the Chronicle is wrong (gasp!), but if it's just a typo I wish they'd fix it.

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 06:01 PM
Okay, WTF. The Chronicle now says that Tim Bulman was cut... but according to the main site, he's not. I'm guessing the Chronicle is wrong (gasp!), but if it's just a typo I wish they'd fix it.

I just checked Manful's article and Bulman's name is not among the cutees

76Texan
08-29-2008, 06:14 PM
So Cliff Washburn sticks with the team?

Errant Hothy
08-29-2008, 06:16 PM
Okay, WTF. The Chronicle now says that Tim Bulman was cut... but according to the main site, he's not. I'm guessing the Chronicle is wrong (gasp!), but if it's just a typo I wish they'd fix it.

There was still 1 more cut that needed to be made, maybe it was Bulamn?

IlliniJen
08-29-2008, 06:19 PM
Man, Colvin actually looked good and got a couple good pressures on the QB last night. This worries me even more about the D line and their ability get rush the passer.

Silver Oak
08-29-2008, 06:24 PM
Man, Colvin actually looked good and got a couple good pressures on the QB last night. This worries me even more about the D line and their ability get rush the passer.

yes, he did, but we needed him to get that or more pressure against the first teamers in the other 3 games of the preseason versus the 2nd and 3rd stringers last night.

I bet RS and GK had to really wrestle with cutting Colvin. I know I wish he had done what we thought he was going to do.

Honoring Earl 34
08-29-2008, 06:29 PM
yes, he did, but we needed him to get that or more pressure against the first teamers in the other 3 games of the preseason versus the 2nd and 3rd stringers last night.

I bet RS and GK had to really wrestle with cutting Colvin. I know I wish he had done what we thought he was going to do.

FWIW ... LZ said Thompson had some explosion coming off the corner . He's also younger and faster ... if he ever plays .

MojoMan
08-29-2008, 06:35 PM
Here is a link to the revised depth chart:

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.asp

b0ng
08-29-2008, 06:38 PM
I am hereby surprised that Colvin was cut. I'm guessing the coaches thought that he just was not a good fit at all for the 4-3. Losing Maddox also sucked.

nunusguy
08-29-2008, 06:51 PM
Here is a link to the revised depth chart:

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.asp

The DC has some guy named Cliff Washburn, an OLineman ?

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 06:53 PM
There was still 1 more cut that needed to be made, maybe it was Bulamn?

The Texans said their final cut is being delayed until they continue to evaluate the injury to Brown's back and decide how much he can help the team.
So Brown still may be cut.

ObsiWan
08-29-2008, 06:58 PM
The DC has some guy named Cliff Washburn, an OLineman ?

he's a warm body at OL.
Remember Salaam is recovering from surgery and I think Chris White is nicked up. So they have two OL guys on the roster that are - for right now - non-functional. So when Salaam & White heal up (maybe before), look for one or two OL guys to be replaced by someone put on waivers by other teams.

Lucky
08-29-2008, 07:15 PM
The Texans said their final cut is being delayed until they continue to evaluate the injury to Brown's back and decide how much he can help the team.
So Brown still may be cut.
FWIW, McClain stated that Chris Brown would be cut. I guess they have to reach an injury settlement.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2008, 09:12 PM
So Cliff Washburn sticks with the team?

He sticks until they find someone they like on the waiver wire.

But I was surprised he stayed instead of Maddux, Fletcher, or Earl.

aj.
08-29-2008, 09:31 PM
he's a warm body at OL.
Remember Salaam is recovering from surgery and I think Chris White is nicked up. So they have two OL guys on the roster that are - for right now - non-functional. So when Salaam & White heal up (maybe before), look for one or two OL guys to be replaced by someone put on waivers by other teams.

Washburn is roster #53 1/2.

They have 11 OL's on the roster now which is not normal. More to come.

beerlover
08-29-2008, 09:54 PM
Kubiak -

(on the tackle position situation with six players) “Yeah. We went a little heavy just like we just talked about. We went a little heavy on the offensive line. As you put a team together and you assess value and one position versus another position, we just felt like all those players at this point deserve to be on our team and give us a chance to go win and be competitive. If you look at our offensive tackle group, there’s a bunch of guys there, but (T) Ephraim’s (Salaam) been off for a little while with the knee. (T) Rashad (Butler) had a little bit of a shoulder deal yesterday. He’s going to be fine. All of the sudden you look like you’re heavy at a position, but injuries can take its toll on positions at certain times. I think a little bit of that has a little bit to do with it. Again, it’s just trying to get the best 53 guys at the end of the day.”

BSofA04
08-29-2008, 09:54 PM
Sucks to see Fletcher and Walker get cut. You can't help but vote for Walker (even if you're like me and a sucker for "Wednesdays with Walker")..I was pulling for him OVER Brown. Moffitt was tough as well. Wish I could've seen more from him cause he seemed like someone who could've contributed.

But the bottom-line is this...we are getting to the point where we're cutting guys who'll play for other teams. It's a bitter-sweet feeling....but satisfying to know we're going where we want to be.

threetoedpete
08-29-2008, 09:57 PM
From HT.com

NAME----------POS.---HT.---WT.---COLLEGE
Jon Abbate......FB.....5-11...245...Wake Forest
Shane Boyd......QB......6-1...232...Kentucky
Alex Brink......QB......6-2...208...Washington St.
Kevis Coley.....LB......6-1...228...Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE......6-3...250...Purdue
Glenn Earl.......S......6-1...215...Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger....C......6-3...292...Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher..CB.....5-10...180...Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR.....5-10...188...Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause.....TE......6-3...244...Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long.......DT......6-3...290...Utah
Anthony Maddox..DT......6-1...305...Delta St.
LeRon McCoy.....WR......6-1...219...Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt.....LB......6-2...245...South Florida
Jesse Nading....DE......6-5...258...Colorado St.
DerrickRoberson CB.....5-10...185...Rutgers
Marcel Shipp....RB.....5-11...224...Massachusetts
Mark Simmons....WR.....5-10...187...Kansas
Torrin Tucker....T......6-6...315...Southern Miss.
Darius Walker...RB.....5-11...205...Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn.....CB......5-9...175...Colorado St.


Thanks for the comprehensive list. I was disapointed with the Mofitt and Madox cuts. I'll be surprised if we've seen the last of Dariuos Walker. I'm stunned that Fletcher & Maddox were released. I think the roster is still in flux and will be well into September.

edo783
08-29-2008, 10:07 PM
I think it was on ESPN that they were commenting on the Eagles and how they would likely be cutting this DE that was doing well in preseason with sacks etc. because they were so deep there with four other guys. That is the kind of guy I see Rick Smith bringing in the next day or two. If they can find a short yardage type RB I would think they would look at him also.

Chicagotexan1
08-29-2008, 10:24 PM
Brown and Green remain, but Darius Walker is out? Sure Walker isn't Barry Sanders, but at least he did a hell of alot more than those 2 bumbs. I don't get it.

ChampionTexan
08-29-2008, 10:28 PM
Brown and Green remain, but Darius Walker is out? Sure Walker isn't Barry Sanders, but at least he did a hell of alot more than those 2 bumbs. I don't get it.

It's sounding like it's a fairly safe bet Brown isn't going to remain much longer.

J-Russ
08-29-2008, 10:35 PM
I think it was on ESPN that they were commenting on the Eagles and how they would likely be cutting this DE that was doing well in preseason with sacks etc. because they were so deep there with four other guys. That is the kind of guy I see Rick Smith bringing in the next day or two. If they can find a short yardage type RB I would think they would look at him also.
I'm guessing that guy might be Jerome McDougal, a DE who had 2.5 sacks in four pre-season game this year.
http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=00-0022163

Former first-round pick of the Eagles, who most fans consider a bust so far in the nfl.

EDIT: Looks like the Eagles fans want to keep him around. Who knows, it's up to Reid though.

http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=506937&st=20

Also, I hope Seattle cut Babin so we can bring him back! he was also a beast this pre-season.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2008, 10:45 PM
Brown and Green remain, but Darius Walker is out? Sure Walker isn't Barry Sanders, but at least he did a hell of alot more than those 2 bumbs. I don't get it.

I think Brown is gone and they're going to try to find another, better guy on the waiver wire. I expect them to try to put Darius on the PS.

Nawzer
08-29-2008, 10:58 PM
I'm surprised to see Darius Walker, Anthony Maddox, and Shane Boyd go. They'll probably bring back Alex Brink to the practice squad. Disappointed that the Roosevelt Colvin era didn't last long. I was really hoping that he and Mario Williams will give us a fierce pass rush. At this point all teams have to do is to double up on Mario and the rest is easy.

Thorn
08-30-2008, 07:43 AM
At this point all teams have to do is to double up on Mario and the rest is easy.

I would imagine that's how Tampa Bay fans felt about Leroy Selmon in the beginning of his carear. Not that I disagree with you, because I don't. We still need someone else on the opposite side of Mario to at least warrant attention.

ObsiWan
08-30-2008, 11:33 PM
The names in red make our practice squad...

Originally Posted by ObsiWan http://home.austin.rr.com/khari/images/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=985704#post985704)
From HT.com

NAME----------POS.---HT.---WT.---COLLEGE
Jon Abbate......FB.....5-11...245...Wake Forest
Shane Boyd......QB......6-1...232...Kentucky
Alex Brink......QB......6-2...208...Washington St.
Kevis Coley.....LB......6-1...228...Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE......6-3...250...Purdue
Glenn Earl.......S......6-1...215...Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger....C......6-3...292...Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher..CB.....5-10...180...Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR.....5-10...188...Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause.....TE......6-3...244...Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long.......DT......6-3...290...Utah
Anthony Maddox..DT......6-1...305...Delta St.
LeRon McCoy.....WR......6-1...219...Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt.....LB......6-2...245...South Florida
Jesse Nading....DE......6-5...258...Colorado St.
DerrickRoberson CB.....5-10...185...Rutgers
Marcel Shipp....RB.....5-11...224...Massachusetts
Mark Simmons....WR.....5-10...187...Kansas
Torrin Tucker....T......6-6...315...Southern Miss.
Darius Walker...RB.....5-11...205...Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn.....CB......5-9...175...Colorado St.

ChampionTexan
08-30-2008, 11:53 PM
The names in red make our practice squad...

Originally Posted by ObsiWan http://home.austin.rr.com/khari/images/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=985704#post985704)
From HT.com

NAME----------POS.---HT.---WT.---COLLEGE
Jon Abbate......FB.....5-11...245...Wake Forest
Shane Boyd......QB......6-1...232...Kentucky
Alex Brink......QB......6-2...208...Washington St.
Kevis Coley.....LB......6-1...228...Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE......6-3...250...Purdue
Glenn Earl.......S......6-1...215...Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger....C......6-3...292...Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher..CB.....5-10...180...Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR.....5-10...188...Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause.....TE......6-3...244...Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long.......DT......6-3...290...Utah
Anthony Maddox..DT......6-1...305...Delta St.
LeRon McCoy.....WR......6-1...219...Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt.....LB......6-2...245...South Florida
Jesse Nading....DE......6-5...258...Colorado St.
DerrickRoberson CB.....5-10...185...Rutgers
Marcel Shipp....RB.....5-11...224...Massachusetts
Mark Simmons....WR.....5-10...187...Kansas
Torrin Tucker....T......6-6...315...Southern Miss.
Darius Walker...RB.....5-11...205...Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn.....CB......5-9...175...Colorado St.



No major (or even minor) disagreements, but a couple thoughts. You leave two spots available - I could envision Roberson being brought back, and if we do bring in a waiver wire player, and waive Washburn as a result, he could end up on the PS too.

Finally, I haven't a clue as to where things stand with Charles Spencer, but I know that Rick Smith specifically brought up the idea of him being back on our practice squad under the right circumstances.

CloakNNNdagger
08-31-2008, 12:11 AM
No major (or even minor) disagreements, but a couple thoughts. You leave two spots available - I could envision Roberson being brought back, and if we do bring in a waiver wire player, and waive Washburn as a result, he could end up on the PS too.

Finally, I haven't a clue as to where things stand with Charles Spencer, but I know that Rick Smith specifically brought up the idea of him being back on our practice squad under the right circumstances.

I was thinking the same thing. He won't be good to go for awhile, but as opposed to the situation for him with other teams, we know what we have in him and what we don't........and he knows our system.

ObsiWan
08-31-2008, 11:04 AM
The bg question regarding Big Nasty is will he (can he?) get back into good enough shape?
If he can trim down a bit, I'd love to have him back.

gary
08-31-2008, 01:15 PM
Me too.

CloakNNNdagger
08-31-2008, 05:25 PM
As predicted as many of us, Darius Walker was signed to the PS.

ChampionTexan
08-31-2008, 05:31 PM
Texans practice squad as of right now:

Signed LB Kevis Coley, WR Darnell Jenkins, DT Gabe Long, DE Jesse Nading, CB Derrick Roberson, WR Mark Simmons and RB Darius Walker to practice squad.

Only surprise, with one spot left available, is the absence of Alex Brink.

Thorn
08-31-2008, 05:33 PM
Texans practice squad as of right now:



Only surprise, with one spot left available, is the absence of Alex Brink.


I would be both suprised and rather miffed if they don't have a QB on the practice squad. History shows us we we should.

ObsiWan
08-31-2008, 06:01 PM
I would be both suprised and rather miffed if they don't have a QB on the practice squad. History shows us we we should.

With two more P/S spots open, I suspect one will be filled by a QB.
Maybe Brinks has his cellphone turned off
:D

Sideline
08-31-2008, 06:04 PM
Shocked Brink is not there, does Boyd still have practice squad eligibility? I'm guessing not.

MojoMan
08-31-2008, 06:06 PM
No Charles Spencer?

CloakNNNdagger
08-31-2008, 06:08 PM
With two more P/S spots open, I suspect one will be filled by a QB.
Maybe Brinks has his cellphone turned off
:D

There's only one more spot available.........and let's not forget that the PS can be fluid over the next week......and possibly beyond.:)

Thorn
08-31-2008, 06:10 PM
I'm certain they'll have a QB on the practice squad, at least I hope so. To NOT do so is to ignore history. I don't think the Texans management is that stupid.

Sideline
08-31-2008, 06:12 PM
I'm certain they'll have a QB on the practice squad, at least I hope so. To NOT do so is to ignore history. I don't think the Texans management is that stupid.

Just to have another arm at practice is reason enough.

ObsiWan
08-31-2008, 06:32 PM
There's only one more spot available.........and let's not forget that the PS can be fluid over the next week......and possibly beyond.:)

you're right... I mis-counted.

now what's the rule?
If you sign someone off the waiver wire, you can stick them on your P/S; but if you sign them off someone else's P/S you have to list them among your 53?
...right?
:thinking:

CloakNNNdagger
08-31-2008, 10:19 PM
you're right... I mis-counted.

now what's the rule?
If you sign someone off the waiver wire, you can stick them on your P/S; but if you sign them off someone else's P/S you have to list them among your 53?
...right?
:thinking:

Correct.

NBT
09-02-2008, 02:06 PM
Charles Spencer would have to prove he is doing something about his weight IMO, before we would think about taking him back.

HOU-TEX
09-02-2008, 03:49 PM
Rumor has it that Charles Spencer's getting a looksee from the Jags. I suppose it's to fill in for the recent tragedy.

Free agent OL Charles Spencer is headed to Jacksonville Tuesday to take a physical for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Scout Rumor Central has confirmed.

Spencer, who was selected in the third round of the 2006 draft by the Houston Texans, will sign a contract with Jacksonville as long as he passes the team physical and likely will be placed on the practice squad.

Spencer, if he passes the physical, could be added to the active roster before Sunday's game against the Tennessee Titans in lieu of the situation with backup OT Richard Collier who was shot and critically wounded Tuesday evening.

http://jac.scout.com/a.z?s=119&p=9&c=2&cid=785943&nid=3661751&fhn=1

Thorn
09-02-2008, 07:21 PM
After last year, I find it have to believe they are going without keeping a third QB. At least on the practice squad you'd think they would have one. Kubes and company have more faith in Schaub staying upright than I do.

HOU-TEX
09-03-2008, 03:15 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else love that we were able to keep ahold of LB Coley? I think this guy's got potential to play in the NFL eventually.

:texflag:

Specnatz
09-03-2008, 03:46 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else love that we were able to keep ahold of LB Coley? I think this guy's got potential to play in the NFL eventually.

:texflag:

After the training camp he had I was shocked when they cut him.

HOU-TEX
09-03-2008, 04:00 PM
After the training camp he had I was shocked when they cut him.

Yeah, me too. Especially with Thompson and Adibi sidelined. Hopefully he'll stick around and be groomed like Diles was last season. Heck if those two don't get right, we might see Coley sooner rather than later.

:fans:

The Pencil Neck
09-03-2008, 04:51 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else love that we were able to keep ahold of LB Coley? I think this guy's got potential to play in the NFL eventually.

:texflag:

It's not just you.