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Carr Bombed
08-19-2008, 05:30 PM
Unless another glaring need develops I really see Houston spending a first rounder on a RB. I know everybody says Denver (and Smithiak) does not spend first rounders on RBs......but after this season (unless Slaton just busts the hell out and rushes for like 1,000+ yards) I really see Houston just going ahead and drafting a RB in round 1 (round 2 at the latest) and then being done with it.

So my question is to the draft/college guru's on this site.... Who are the top running back prospects that will be available for next years draft and what kind've game do they have? Who are the best "every down" (not scat) backs?

beerlover
08-20-2008, 02:48 PM
Unless another glaring need develops I really see Houston spending a first rounder on a RB. I know everybody says Denver (and Smithiak) does not spend first rounders on RBs......but after this season (unless Slaton just busts the hell out and rushes for like 1,000+ yards) I really see Houston just going ahead and drafting a RB in round 1 (round 2 at the latest) and then being done with it.

So my question is to the draft/college guru's on this site.... Who are the top running back prospects that will be available for next years draft and what kind've game do they have? Who are the best "every down" (not scat) backs?

it depends on what underclassman declare for the 09 draft. strictly speaking only senior backs, I have yet to be convinced one will warrent selection when the Texans draft in the 1st rd. which means look for their 2nd rd. pick to be a bigger, feature back type who slips down to them. one I can think of stright off the top of my head is SEC Tennessee RB Arian Foster, already a preseason candidate for the 2008 Maxwell Award. @ 6-1 220lbs woiuld be a nice compliment to Slayton.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/27/272299.jpg

Ole Miss Texan
08-20-2008, 03:09 PM
Great thread. I like where beerlover is going with this. We've got Slaton, so assuming he works out... we need a different kind of RB. Popular term is Thunder and Lightening... well we need a Thunder.

I like Arian Foster (Tennessee) and James Davis (5-11, 210 lbs Clemson) so far the best, this early in the season. Not sure they would warrant our 1st round selection unless we have a GREAT record and advance to the playoffs. (sorry for the picture aggie fans)

http://www.williston.k12.sc.us/WEHS/2006webpages/jamesdavis3.jpg

I see them as more of 2nd round type of guys because the don't have the 4.3 speed. Both both should do well in our offense, have good size, are decisive and can pound the football.

I can see us using our 1st rounder on a DE or one of the stud Safeties, and then following up in the 2nd round with a RB.

I also don't think 1st round RB is out of the question. The Kubiak doesn't draft RB's in the 1st round bit is overplayed and misleading. We've discussed the topic in length before so I'm not going to get into it. I think this thread is perfect just to look at the talent out there and who would be a good fit- regardless of what round we think they go in.

During the '07 draft we thought Slaton would be a 1st rounder for '08. If we just decided not to watch him because "we don't draft them in the 1st myth" we would have missed out and not known much about him going into the 3rd round. Let's look at the talent and skill set right now and not focus on Rounds.

Texecutioner
08-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Uuuuum, can anyone say Beanie Wells??? I think he would be just perfect.

Knoshawn Moreno would be one nice weapon to have.

beerlover
08-20-2008, 03:32 PM
Uuuuum, can anyone say Beanie Wells??? I think he would be just perfect.

Knoshawn Moreno would be one nice weapon to have.

Chris Wells, 6-1 237 is a Jr. @ Ohio State if thats who you mean? If he comes out early & is still on the board in the 20's (projecting the Texans to have a winning season) then heck yeah :thisbig:

Same thing with Moreno, 5-11 208 (redshirted in 06) but he is more like Steve Slayton so if he where still on the board (doubtfull) maybe Rick Smith could trade down with a team who wants him & pick up extra picks?

Texecutioner
08-20-2008, 03:41 PM
Chris Wells, 6-1 237 is a Jr. @ Ohio State if thats who you mean? If he comes out early & is still on the board in the 20's (projecting the Texans to have a winning season) then heck yeah :thisbig:

Same thing with Moreno, 5-11 208 (redshirted in 06) but he is more like Steve Slayton so if he where still on the board (doubtfull) maybe Rick Smith could trade down with a team who wants him & pick up extra picks?

I would be really surprised if Chris (Beenie) Wells stays an extra year. He is going to be waaaayy to coveted by many teams. He is the total package as well and a guy that could be really good right away.

Moreno is really nice though. He is much better than Slaton. I hear what you're saying though. If Slaton has the kind of year that many of us hope, then the Texans would need more of a pound runner rather than a scat back kind of guy. Moreno is just flat out awsome though!

A lot of the backs this year in college though are only Juniors or sophmores though.

Bubbajwp
08-20-2008, 03:54 PM
100% agree with OMT FS or maybe DE in 1rst round. RB in 2nd round.

rmartin65
08-20-2008, 05:56 PM
Moreno, Davis, Murray and Wells are my top guys right now.

Texecutioner
08-20-2008, 07:47 PM
Moreno, Davis, Murray and Wells are my top guys right now.

I don't think Murray will be coming out after this year. He's only a sophmore right now.

LORK 88
08-20-2008, 08:47 PM
1) Chris Wells, Ohio St*
2) Knowshon Moreno, Uga**
3) LeSean McCoy, Pitt**
4) James Davis, Clemson
5) Arian Foster, Tennessee
6) CJ Spiller, Clemson
7) Marlon Lucky, Nebraska
8) Javon Ringer, Michigan St
9) Ian Johnson, Boise St
10) Keegan Herring, Arizona St
SLEEPER: Kahlil Bell, UCLA

As much as I would love to land any of the top 3, I know that's a dream. Davis would be a perfect fit and would compliment Slaton well, but with another good season I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't last until round 2. Arian Foster would also be a good compliment RB with his more physical style of play. It also doesn't hurt that he can break off some big runs as well. However, the RB I really want out of those is Marlon Lucky. Good vision, solid measurables, and a dual threat RB (1,000 yards rushing and 700 receiving last season).

rmartin65
08-20-2008, 09:29 PM
I don't think Murray will be coming out after this year. He's only a sophmore right now.

Redshirt Sophomore, just like Moreno.

J-Russ
08-20-2008, 10:30 PM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/rankings/rb.php

beerlover
08-20-2008, 11:07 PM
1) Chris Wells, Ohio St*
2) Knowshon Moreno, Uga**
3) LeSean McCoy, Pitt**
4) James Davis, Clemson
5) Arian Foster, Tennessee
6) CJ Spiller, Clemson
7) Marlon Lucky, Nebraska
8) Javon Ringer, Michigan St
9) Ian Johnson, Boise St
10) Keegan Herring, Arizona St
SLEEPER: Kahlil Bell, UCLA

As much as I would love to land any of the top 3, I know that's a dream. Davis would be a perfect fit and would compliment Slaton well, but with another good season I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't last until round 2. Arian Foster would also be a good compliment RB with his more physical style of play. It also doesn't hurt that he can break off some big runs as well. However, the RB I really want out of those is Marlon Lucky. Good vision, solid measurables, and a dual threat RB (1,000 yards rushing and 700 receiving last season).

don't the Texans already have a back from Nebraska? :voodoo:

In other breaking news......James Davis is a 1st rd. back. could be high on the Texans draft board come April 09.

LORK 88
08-20-2008, 11:49 PM
don't the Texans already have a back from Nebraska? :voodoo:

In other breaking news......James Davis is a 1st rd. back. could be high on the Texans draft board come April 09.
This one doesn't break down every other rushing attempt and isn't old by NFL standards. :thumbup

Ole Miss Texan
08-21-2008, 09:33 AM
I really don't want to get ahead of ourselves but I truthfully still expect us to be around 8-8 and picking towards the middle. If Smith can work his magic again to get us moving back 8 spots and picking up another 3rd and 6th.... late 1st round seems to be a great spot to pick up some really quality RB's (too early to tell with any of these guys but I'm just assuming).

Texecutioner
08-21-2008, 10:09 AM
Redshirt Sophomore, just like Moreno.

Moreno is only a sophomore? I thought the guy had to have been a Senior for sure. Wow! I guess he will most likely stay another year after this one.

steelbtexan
08-21-2008, 10:29 AM
The rule is

A player has to have been in college for 3 years to qualify for the NFL draft.

Redshirt sophs will qualify after this season.

Polo
08-21-2008, 10:31 AM
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Ole Miss Texan
08-21-2008, 10:37 AM
The rule is

A player has to have been in college for 3 years to qualify for the NFL draft.

Redshirt sophs will qualify after this season.

Technically I think it's three years removed from highschool but the thoughts the same.

steelbtexan
08-21-2008, 10:45 AM
My favorites in order are

1. McCoy
2. Wells
3.Davis
4. Foster
5. Lucky

Backs that I hope come out early & add depth to the draft are Murray & Goodson

Sleeper pick Kevin Grady he was a stud 2 Michigan before he tore his ACL & got stuck behind Mike Hart.

We should be able to find able to find a power back to compliment Slaton in the 3rd round.

76Texan
08-21-2008, 11:52 AM
I'll be looking for the Texans to pick up Branden Ore as an UDFA rookie out of West Liberty St. in W. Va.

Hopefully, Duane Brown and Adibi will put in some nice words to our scouts.
The guy knows all about running in the ZBS.

He's now listed by the school at 5-11, 215 lbs

Can be a nice compliment to Slaton, and another steal !?!

BIO:
"Has grown into a complete player who has the opportunity to become one of the premier running backs in the country ... Blends speed, strength and toughness with great vision ... Can catch the ball out of the backfield and has worked hard to improve his blocking ... Was the leading rusher in the ACC last fall until suffering a high ankle sprain on his second carry at Wake Forest ... Missed the Virginia game, but still earned first-team All-ACC honors at tailback and finished the season ranked second in rushing and first in both scoring and all-purpose yards ... Named the state's top offensive back by the Richmond Touchdown Club ... Earned honorable mention All-America honors from SI.com ... Became the first Virginia Tech player to post two 200-yard rushing performances - in a season, in a career, in a row ... Accomplished the feat in back-to-back games - five days apart - against Southern Miss and Clemson ."

YoungTexanFan
08-21-2008, 03:29 PM
Not that we'll be picking high enough to land him, but I want nothing at all to do with Wells. Nothing.

I've taken a pre-season liking to Lucky, so we'll see if he can stay healthy the whole year.

rmartin65
08-21-2008, 04:20 PM
Not that we'll be picking high enough to land him, but I want nothing at all to do with Wells. Nothing.


You have said that before. Why? I see nothing not to like, he has size, speed, and uses his blocks fairly well.

Goldensilence
08-21-2008, 04:29 PM
Someone I haven't seen mentioned.... P.J. Hill from Wisc.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=180057

If Slaton has the year I think he could Hill would be a nice Bruising back to compliment.

rmartin65
08-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Someone I haven't seen mentioned.... P.J. Hill from Wisc.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=180057

If Slaton has the year I think he could Hill would be a nice Bruising back to compliment.

That is brilliance. I forgot that he was eligible this year.

YoungTexanFan
08-21-2008, 10:42 PM
Someone I haven't seen mentioned.... P.J. Hill from Wisc.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=180057

If Slaton has the year I think he could Hill would be a nice Bruising back to compliment.

Knees ok?

YoungTexanFan
08-21-2008, 10:43 PM
You have said that before. Why? I see nothing not to like, he has size, speed, and uses his blocks fairly well.

Just a gut feeling. I don't think he is quick enough behind the line. He may change my mind as I watch more of him this year. Honestly, I only watched a little bit of OSU offense last year, but I just don't project him to be anything more than an average NFL RB at this point.

TexansLucky13
08-21-2008, 10:48 PM
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper410/stills/qfhc69qw.jpg

Ok, ok... so he is a fullback. Sorry, just had to add this.

LonerATO
08-21-2008, 11:34 PM
- Chris Wells
- Knowshon Moreno
- C.J. Spiller
- James Davis
- Arian Foster
- Javon Ringer
- Javarris James
- Devin Moore
- P.J. Hill
- Ian Johnson

not in that order

Maddict5
08-23-2008, 05:06 PM
i think we'll be going DE.. hopefully the florida guy

JCTexan
08-23-2008, 05:42 PM
1) Chris Wells, Ohio St*
2) Knowshon Moreno, Uga**
3) LeSean McCoy, Pitt**
4) James Davis, Clemson
5) Arian Foster, Tennessee
6) CJ Spiller, Clemson
7) Marlon Lucky, Nebraska
8) Javon Ringer, Michigan St
9) Ian Johnson, Boise St
10) Keegan Herring, Arizona St
SLEEPER: Kahlil Bell, UCLA

As much as I would love to land any of the top 3, I know that's a dream. Davis would be a perfect fit and would compliment Slaton well, but with another good season I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't last until round 2. Arian Foster would also be a good compliment RB with his more physical style of play. It also doesn't hurt that he can break off some big runs as well. However, the RB I really want out of those is Marlon Lucky. Good vision, solid measurables, and a dual threat RB (1,000 yards rushing and 700 receiving last season).

Although I haven't heard much about any of them, I believe we could select at least one of the three RB's if we wanted one bad enough in the first... or are they all Peterson type of backs? Runningback is normally not a position I expect to have alot of first rounders taken in a draft.

rmartin65
08-23-2008, 06:05 PM
Although I haven't heard much about any of them, I believe we could select at least one of the three RB's if we wanted one bad enough in the first... or are they all Peterson type of backs? Runningback is normally not a position I expect to have alot of first rounders taken in a draft.

Wells and Moreno are first round quality, as is Murray from Oklahoma. James Davis could sneak into the bottom of the first

Dcolbyt
08-23-2008, 06:47 PM
i really hope chris taylor does well, he was on my football team when i was in the 5th grade. i remember the coach getting on to him for always doing a spin move and going in head first.i played the bench!

rmartin65
08-24-2008, 03:36 PM
I'll be looking for the Texans to pick up Branden Ore as an UDFA rookie out of West Liberty St. in W. Va.

Hopefully, Duane Brown and Adibi will put in some nice words to our scouts.
The guy knows all about running in the ZBS.

He's now listed by the school at 5-11, 215 lbs

Can be a nice compliment to Slaton, and another steal !?!

BIO:
"Has grown into a complete player who has the opportunity to become one of the premier running backs in the country ... Blends speed, strength and toughness with great vision ... Can catch the ball out of the backfield and has worked hard to improve his blocking ... Was the leading rusher in the ACC last fall until suffering a high ankle sprain on his second carry at Wake Forest ... Missed the Virginia game, but still earned first-team All-ACC honors at tailback and finished the season ranked second in rushing and first in both scoring and all-purpose yards ... Named the state's top offensive back by the Richmond Touchdown Club ... Earned honorable mention All-America honors from SI.com ... Became the first Virginia Tech player to post two 200-yard rushing performances - in a season, in a career, in a row ... Accomplished the feat in back-to-back games - five days apart - against Southern Miss and Clemson ."

Ore is one of the top Small school backs this year.

Other good guys to compliment Slaton would be
Rashad Jennings, Liberty, 6'1" 232 lbs
Herb Donaldson, Western Illinois, 5'10" 222 lbs
Tyler Roehl, North Dakota State, 5'10" 228 lbs (FB/HB)

All these guys are PFA's right now

thunderkyss
08-24-2008, 04:33 PM
The only way we'll be looking for a RB high in the draft, late first, early second, Chris Taylor & Darius Walker would have to be complete failures. If Slaton is the playmaker we want, and Chris Taylor is consistent, and solid, we won't be looking for offense.

Never the less, this is a good thread, nice to see who you guys are looking at.

WesmanTexanfan
08-24-2008, 04:36 PM
another late round steal in JAVORSKI LANE!!!

Im not a big fan but i wouldnt mind the combo of he and slaton....

bah007
08-24-2008, 04:57 PM
another late round steal in JAVORSKI LANE!!!

Im not a big fan but i wouldnt mind the combo of he and slaton....

Lane has FB written all over him.

I played against him in high school & he was a beast. But it looks like he gets a little bit less explosive every year. Probably due to all the hits he takes to his lower body.

He has the tools to play in the NFL, but not as a HB, not in my opinion anyway.

WesmanTexanfan
08-24-2008, 05:38 PM
Lane has FB written all over him.

I played against him in high school & he was a beast. But it looks like he gets a little bit less explosive every year. Probably due to all the hits he takes to his lower body.

He has the tools to play in the NFL, but not as a HB, not in my opinion anyway.

That makes sense, i just like his size and attitude.

On a side note he went to A&M because Texas wanted him at FB and he wanted to be a HB, and know A&M is playing him at FB, LOL....

Goldensilence
08-24-2008, 05:50 PM
That makes sense, i just like his size and attitude.

On a side note he went to A&M because Texas wanted him at FB and he wanted to be a HB, and know A&M is playing him at FB, LOL....

He technically plays FB for them but he gets HB carries with the ball. To be honest I haven't seen his blocking skills as a FB. I'm pretty sure someone will pick him up though in the mid rounds. I know early on he's a big guy but had the feet of Bettis. There's lots of beer drank in C.S. looks like he can kill a keg by himself.

bah007
08-24-2008, 06:17 PM
That makes sense, i just like his size and attitude.

On a side note he went to A&M because Texas wanted him at FB and he wanted to be a HB, and know A&M is playing him at FB, LOL....

Agree with you there.

The guy is huge. And he is ferocious when he has the ball.

Hopefully for the Aggies, he takes the same attitude as a lead blocker this year.

bah007
08-24-2008, 06:19 PM
He technically plays FB for them but he gets HB carries with the ball. To be honest I haven't seen his blocking skills as a FB. I'm pretty sure someone will pick him up though in the mid rounds. I know early on he's a big guy but had the feet of Bettis. There's lots of beer drank in C.S. looks like he can kill a keg by himself.

Lane won't be getting as much carries as he has in past years.

The Aggies are moving from a spread offense to a more conventional one (still gonna be some spread though).

In the past, he would split time with Goodson at HB, but now Goodson will be lined up at HB & Lane at FB.

I think Bradley Stephens will be sharing the carries with Goodson this year, but of course Lane will get a few also.

badboy
08-25-2008, 03:39 PM
I will go out on a limb and predict if our backs (whoever they may be) can avg 4 yards a carry, we will not pick an RB in top 3 rounds. I think our first two will be Cb and safety. Laugh at me or not, DE will be a high draft selection also. If Weaver makes it thru this year, he will be gone next. Colvin? I was high on the guy but he has shown nothing. He is a long shot to me.

Ole Miss Texan
08-25-2008, 04:11 PM
I will go out on a limb and predict if our backs (whoever they may be) can avg 4 yards a carry, we will not pick an RB in top 3 rounds. I think our first two will be Cb and safety. Laugh at me or not, DE will be a high draft selection also. If Weaver makes it thru this year, he will be gone next. Colvin? I was high on the guy but he has shown nothing. He is a long shot to me.

DE is moving higher and higher on my list dayly and there should be some good ones to choose from come April. Safety is at the top of my list too.

I think a stud DE and a stud RB will be most effective for our team (at this time).

beerlover
09-01-2008, 11:45 PM
I really liked what I saw tonight from Tennssee RB Arian Foster. solid 2nd rd. pick which I think falls right in line with the Texans needs after speed RDE in 1st.

Great footwork, downhill runner who instinctively hits the hole with nice combination of power & speed. As stated back on page one of this thread excellent compliment to Slayton. He was stripped of the ball down in the red zone as he was gang tackled but nothing that can't be corrected. 13 carries for 96 yards, 7.4 avg. @ 6-1 216 had good NFL size.

Vinny
09-01-2008, 11:46 PM
I really liked what I saw tonight from Tennssee RB Arian Foster. solid 2nd rd. pick which I think falls right in line with the Texans needs after speed RDE in 1st.

Great footwork, downhill runner who instinctively hits the hole with nice combination of power & speed. As stated back on page one of this thread excellent compliment to Slayton. He was stripped of the ball down in the red zone as he was gang tackled but nothing that can't be corrected. 13 carries for 96 yards, 7.4 avg. @ 6-1 216 had good NFL size.

He is gonna pass Travis Henry as the Vols all time leading rusher this season.

bah007
09-02-2008, 01:22 AM
I was also impressed with Ryan Mathews of Fresno St.

He ran with a purpose against Rutgers in the 2nd half.

Showed good burst & definitely a lot of tackle-breaking ability.

YoungTexanFan
09-02-2008, 11:15 AM
I really liked what I saw tonight from Tennssee RB Arian Foster. solid 2nd rd. pick which I think falls right in line with the Texans needs after speed RDE in 1st.

Great footwork, downhill runner who instinctively hits the hole with nice combination of power & speed. As stated back on page one of this thread excellent compliment to Slayton. He was stripped of the ball down in the red zone as he was gang tackled but nothing that can't be corrected. 13 carries for 96 yards, 7.4 avg. @ 6-1 216 had good NFL size.

I'll reserve final judgement for now as I think some of that success was due to it being UCLA he ran against. I usually judge SEC backs based upon SEC competition.

threetoedpete
09-03-2008, 09:15 AM
I was also impressed with Ryan Mathews of Fresno St.

He ran with a purpose against Rutgers in the 2nd half.

Showed good burst & definitely a lot of tackle-breaking ability.

that makes two of us....sometimes it's a function of a superior line just out manning a weaker defensive line. One thing about Fresno St. Well two...once bitten twice shy....and you won't have to worry about the level of competition.

If Mathews is still posting his five point five after turkey day...I'll swallow the hook and be sold. Great balance, field vision and a very nice combo of speed and power...think Kevin Smith with moves. He'd be perfect for this system. We'll see what he does vs Wisconsin this weekend. He made one run where the o-line got a push in a stretch play to the left, hole opened to the right with a kick out block by the FB on the right end and he was out the gate. The way he pressed the hole to the left, the patience tells me he knows what he is doing. One cut and go. Made some very nice open field moves on the second level once he made the second level. Just one game we'll see.

He's rotating with three other guys....and we don't know if he can block. There's a reason he's still rotating...and I haven't seen him catch a ball yet. Both of those things would be killers in terms of whether or not we took the sophomore.


http://myespn.go.com/blogs/others/0-1-8/Mathews-carries-Fresno-State-s-offense.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/schedule?teamId=278

threetoedpete
09-03-2008, 09:56 AM
DE is moving higher and higher on my list daily and there should be some good ones to choose from come April. Safety is at the top of my list too.

I think a stud DE and a stud RB will be most effective for our team (at this time).

I'll believe safety in the first round when I see it. I don't recall the Illinois guys name he bounced off of....but the body block attempted tackles by William Moore will do nothing but get the guy bumped down the boards. Athlete yes. Tackler no. pi$$ poor effort on that one.


Found him :
. Arrelious Benn, Illinois - 6-2, 214, SO .... 2007 Statistics: 54 receptions, 676 yards (12.5 ypr), 2 TD

The guy is a robust 214. Solid .

YoungTexanFan
09-03-2008, 12:27 PM
I'll believe safety in the first round when I see it. I don't recall the Illinois guys name he bounced off of....but the body block attempted tackles by William Moore will do nothing but get the guy bumped down the boards. Athlete yes. Tackler no. pi$$ poor effort on that one.

Hooray for Mizzu bashing. Carry on. :user: :cowboy1:

beerlover
09-11-2008, 11:27 PM
Really enjoyed the NC vs Rutgers game, lots of talent, WR Hakeem Nicks & Brandon Tate (exceptional returner too) OL Rutgers LT Anthony Davis 6-6 330 1st rd. talent, but these exciting players are for another thread & beleive me they'll get plenty of attention.

A little raw but only a So. Greg Little RB North Carolina impressed me with his raw strengh, footwork & instincts between the tackles. Carolina should make some noise this College Football season because Butch Davis has a well balanced attack with a solid defense. Give him one more year to refine his skills & will be ready to enter the NFL draft. I know this is premature but I'm thnking a possible late 2nd to middle 3rd selection.

Little was way over-hyped in the preseason. An average talent on an average team. - USA Today Football

Both in fact look above average to me, at least tonight. He needs to work on his mechanics, ball security & leverage, runs a little tall but thats because he is tall so it will reguire coaching & effort on his part to leverage his body lower much like McFadden as a matter of fact. Just remember he's still got time to develop but I see all the signs of a possible Brandon Jacobs type of power back as he fills out. He squares his shoulders easily, downhill & gives as well takes good hard contact.

Just a mention here for y'all to keep an eye out for as time passes :cool:

bah007
09-12-2008, 12:48 AM
Rutgers is getting beat up by some exceptional running backs early on in this season.

North Carolina really played well tonight.

Mike Teel is overrated.

kastofsna
09-12-2008, 09:55 AM
Mike Teel is rated at all?

bah007
09-12-2008, 10:54 AM
Mike Teel is rated at all?

I heard a lot of talk preseason about how the strength of their offense was at QB.

But I think he has 0 TDs & 6 INTs in two games.

rmartin65
09-12-2008, 11:21 AM
Mike Teel is rated at all?

29th rated senior QB by NFL Draft Scout

bah007
09-12-2008, 01:25 PM
29th rated senior QB by NFL Draft Scout

Told you so.

That's way too high.....

kastofsna
09-12-2008, 01:34 PM
i doubt i could name 29 starting QB's right now

The1ApplePie
09-12-2008, 01:41 PM
Taylor Mays is still my No. 1 favorite in this draft.

bah007
09-12-2008, 01:55 PM
i doubt i could name 29 starting QB's right now

I could, but what's the point?

Not even half of them will be in the NFL next year.

bah007
09-12-2008, 01:56 PM
Taylor Mays is still my No. 1 favorite in this draft.

Yeah, he's pretty good. [understatement]

Nic Harris from Oklahoma is also an interesting prospect at safety.

kastofsna
09-12-2008, 07:32 PM
man i gotta be honest, i have like zero interest in college ball this year. i dunno why. just losing all my focus. it's probably the Rays that are doing it

kastofsna
09-13-2008, 12:17 AM
but maybe the USF/Kansas game rekindled my interest

LonerATO
09-14-2008, 12:03 AM
I agree with apple I would perfer a FS/SS Patrick Chung is my guy and I would prefer a RB in 2-3 rd.

rollinstone18
09-14-2008, 02:15 AM
Moore, Pegues, Hamlin, or Ellison could probably be had in the 2nd. I'd go DE or RB in the 1st, especially if Moreno or Selvie are there.

YoungTexanFan
09-14-2008, 01:34 PM
but maybe the USF/Kansas game rekindled my interest

Yall came out on fire in the second half and just punched us in the mouth in that 3rd quarter. We have ZERO running game. ZERO. I enjoyed watched Selvie in a weird kind of way. We will likely lose 4 games this year if we couldn't handle South Florida.

wolf123
09-17-2008, 12:51 AM
One thing we know is that the texans will go very heavy defense with DE,OLB,Safety being huge priorities.

New_Texans
09-18-2008, 11:26 AM
One thing we know is that the texans will go very heavy defense with DE,OLB,Safety being huge priorities.

eh, OLB really depends on how Adibi plays. The others I agree with though.

beerlover
09-19-2008, 12:43 AM
Yall came out on fire in the second half and just punched us in the mouth in that 3rd quarter. We have ZERO running game. ZERO. I enjoyed watched Selvie in a weird kind of way. We will likely lose 4 games this year if we couldn't handle South Florida.

given the choice if I would select Selvie over any RB in the country, yet he'll be gone & RB may still be bpa when Texans pick.

YoungTexanFan
09-20-2008, 10:18 AM
given the choice if I would select Selvie over any RB in the country, yet he'll be gone & RB may still be bpa when Texans pick.

What's sad is that BPA may be an OT that is worth a higher slot than where we pick. This is shaping up to be a top heavy OT class with some elite OT's from the onset. Monroe is by almost all reports, better than Fergueson was at UVA (man, can they just produce NFL linemen or what?!) Andre Smith out of 'Bama is going to be a beast, and I've been on that bandwagon since his freshman year. He has been dominant this year. Michael Oher from Ole Miss who I'm not quite as high on, but he is still a top 10 talent.

I'm also pretty interested to see how the Arkansas offense does this year, especially the pocket and the running game. I want to see Luigis (sp) the Arkansas C.

YoungTexanFan
09-20-2008, 10:24 AM
As far a RB, I don't think Javon Ringer has been mentioned. I'm a huge fan of college success because I believe football is a habit sport. Ringer tore it up last year and is doing so this year with a huge target on his back. He is the Michigan State offense. He is a little smaller. I think he compares pretty well to Ray Rice who gained a lot of interest from people as the draft neared. I hyped Rice since his sophomore year. Addmittantly, I wasn't a huge Ringer fan last year, but I'm going to hype him this year. His leg drive and balance is amazing. He hits the hole and doesn't go down on first contact; very hard to be arm tackled. Very tough runner with great lower body strength and speed.

beerlover
09-20-2008, 11:23 AM
As far a RB, I don't think Javon Ringer has been mentioned. I'm a huge fan of college success because I believe football is a habit sport. Ringer tore it up last year and is doing so this year with a huge target on his back. He is the Michigan State offense. He is a little smaller. I think he compares pretty well to Ray Rice who gained a lot of interest from people as the draft neared. I hyped Rice since his sophomore year. Addmittantly, I wasn't a huge Ringer fan last year, but I'm going to hype him this year. His leg drive and balance is amazing. He hits the hole and doesn't go down on first contact; very hard to be arm tackled. Very tough runner with great lower body strength and speed.

really hoping to catch that game today against the Irish, all those stinking Notre Dame broadcasts & not this one? nice second round pick-up for the Texans if still there, just not sure if he gets a 1st rd. grade?

beerlover
09-20-2008, 03:02 PM
found a feed on 145 ESPN 2. seems on small side (less than his bio) good acceleration, footwork, yes could be a Westbrook type of back. Javon Ringer is a back to keep an eye on.

really like Little of North Carolina however, they're playing VT right now on 140 ESPN. great size/power for feature Pro back, still only a sophmore, raw but has all the tools you look for. physical downhill runner, blocks, soft hands out of the backfield & he doesn't go down on contact either :aggressive:

Chance_C
09-22-2008, 12:21 PM
Somebody tell me what's wrong with Charles Scott, a junior at LSU. Doesn't have a fumbling problem that's for sure. Has not found the endzone with real regularity but he is a straight ahead runner with power, and good vision. I haven't watched him play that much but he sure looked good against Auburn.