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shinerbock_girl
12-20-2004, 11:05 AM
Just curious what everyone thinks this week...I'm pretty nervous about this one...Watching the jags play lately they look like their on fire...They almost took the steelers also...And the way we've been playing it seems we've stepped backwards instead of forwards...Don't get me wrong i will stand by my Texans, but they still didn't seem like they played 100% yesterday despite winning...The Bears knew they played bad also, but the Jags aren't the Bears...Their a good team....I just hope we can pull this off a second time... :whew

BornOrange
12-20-2004, 11:40 AM
The offensive line will need to do a much better job protecting David Carr. They should be made aware that not only playing time but employment with the Texans is on the line if they are unable to protect Carr. The Bears were able to apply pressure up the middle, which makes any QB ineffective. If the Bears could bring the pressure up the middle, guess what Jacksonville is going to do against the Texans. Stroud and Henderson are licking their chops when watching game film on McKinney, Pitts and Washington.

WWJD
12-20-2004, 11:54 AM
I would have to favor the Jaguars by a small margin because of home field advantage. And they are playing well. But not by much. I think the Texans can score some points against them IF they protect Carr.

Marcus
12-20-2004, 11:55 AM
...Don't get me wrong i will stand by my Texans, but they still didn't seem like they played 100% yesterday despite winning...

What do you mean by that?

Are you saying that it looked like they weren't giving 100% effort?

Yankee_In_TX
12-20-2004, 11:57 AM
What do you mean by that?

Are you saying that it looked like they weren't giving 100% effort?

I think he means that we didn't give a good offensive performance despite the final score.

Penalties, line break down, dropped passes, etc.

TheOgre
12-20-2004, 12:00 PM
I give us about a 40-45% chance of winning the game. We win this and 8-8 is a near certainty.

Lucky
12-20-2004, 12:24 PM
...I'm pretty nervous about this one...Watching the jags play lately they look like their on fire...
It's funny that so many Texan fans undersell their teams chances and hype the opposition. The Jags put their jock on one leg at a time. They beat the Bears at home by 19 a week ago, the Texans beat the Bears on the road by 19 yesterday. That was a big win for the Jags yesterday, but the Pack has been Jekyll and Hyde at home all season. That was their 4th loss at Lambeau this year.

The Texans beat up the Jags so badly in week 8, they left town crying about dirty play. The Jags crying about dirty play. :rolleyes: I don't think Gaffney drops the ball before crossing the goal line this time. I don't think AJ fumbles in FG range, either. The defense is playing better than they have all season. So is Domanick. I'm not nervous at all, I'm looking forward to an AFC South war. And the Texans are one team that won't back down to the Jags' bully tatics.

SBTexans08
12-20-2004, 12:30 PM
I think Jonathan Wells should be the man for this game. We need his big self to plow his way through guys for every inch possible.....that's just me though.. idonno:

shinerbock_girl
12-20-2004, 12:32 PM
I think Jonathan Wells should be the man for this game. We need his big self to plow his way through guys for every inch possible.....that's just me though.. idonno:

I actually like the combo method...Rotating between the 2 so it gives them a break to rest and come back full strength each time one plays rather then being exhausted ...

SBTexans08
12-20-2004, 12:35 PM
Oh yeah....no doubt but with Wells getting the bulk of the carries is what I mean...

shinerbock_girl
12-20-2004, 12:38 PM
Oh yeah....no doubt but with Wells getting the bulk of the carries is what I mean...

True, i still liked that 1st game against the Titans we played when Wells plowed through the Titans defense running the ball...He made a great performance that day...

Marcus
12-20-2004, 12:46 PM
I think he means that we didn't give a good offensive performance despite the final score.

Penalties, line break down, dropped passes, etc.

Well, if that's the case, I agree. I don't give them much chance of beating the Jags, despite beating them earlier this season. The OL has deteriorated since then, and Carr's loss of confidence in them shows in many ways.

gwallaia
12-20-2004, 12:46 PM
The Jaguars are fighting like hell for the last playoff spot. They will no doubt be pumped up for this game. Texans should be relaxed with nothing to lose, this could work to our advantage.

The offensive line better protect Carr because I'm sure Del Rio is instructing his players to injure him and end his career.

infantrycak
12-20-2004, 12:55 PM
True, i still liked that 1st game against the Titans we played when Wells plowed through the Titans defense running the ball...He made a great performance that day...

Wells was 3.3 ypc on the day. Clearly that was much better than the 2nd game where DD was 17 carries for 129--let's even take out the 41 yard run--that would be 88 yards on 16 carries for 5.5 ypc.

Yankee_In_TX
12-20-2004, 12:59 PM
I actually like the combo method...Rotating between the 2 so it gives them a break to rest and come back full strength each time one plays rather then being exhausted ...

Like I said in a DD post. Wells is a GREAT third down back.

But being my OSU boy, I think he'd be better off going else where and starting. I'd hate to see him go, but.....

As far as the game, our key points:
1. Protect Carr
2. No stupid penalties
3. Throw the ball (see #1)

aj.
12-20-2004, 01:18 PM
The Texans played one of their better games of the year against the Jags earlier this year. Aside from last year's game when we started Ragone and Hollings, the Texans have been able to game plan pretty effectively against them. It will be difficult to come out of there with a win but it's certainly possible if the defense continues to play the way they have the last 7 quarters and the offensive line plays their best game.

jagsfanincanada
12-20-2004, 01:25 PM
The offensive line better protect Carr because I'm sure Del Rio is instructing his players to injure him and end his career.

Yeah I'm so sure he is. :rolleyes:

MichaelMC
12-20-2004, 01:53 PM
I agree O-line steps up and Defence stays strong, we win. I'd like to see d-Rob with two INT's this week.

GO D-ROB (just had to thow that in)

Doug
12-20-2004, 02:13 PM
I say Carr lights into the O Lines rear before the game even starts and hope the productivity is just as good after he did it in the Chicago game. LOL I thought that was too funny to pass up.

Doug
12-20-2004, 02:16 PM
This game will definitely revolve around our O Lines effectiveness. IMO

beerlover
12-20-2004, 02:25 PM
Carr must keep his composure despite his offensive lines failures (there will be some) know they are trying & giving it all they have. Those big Jag tackles (Henderson & Stroud) scare me eek: & maybe Darius is suspended :whew

Grid
12-20-2004, 02:36 PM
Our Oline against the bears was... bleh.. bad. I dunno if that is because of the bears Dline.. or because of the cold..or what.

But really our oline hasnt been that terrible. I mean.. yah.. they have been getting their butts handed to them.. but its been in the two games against the colts mostly. and its been Dwight Freeney mostly.. and if you watched the colts/ravens game.. you saw Freeney beating the snot out of Ogden.. best LT in the league.

We actually havent done too terrible against slower, more powerful Dlines like the Jags have. SO.. i dont think they will be that big a problem.

Also, Dunta is better now than he was earlier this year in the first Jags game.. and so is Babin.. and we will probably be seeing Peek out there a bit more so we may have a better pass rush. ALSO.. Davis is healthy this time.

I like our chances.. we have always been a team that goes for Moral victories :).. and sweeping the jags, and taking them out of the playoffs, ESPECIALLY after the way they acted last game and in the past.. that would be a big moral victory.

I think we are gonna go in there fired up.. it should be a real good game. I think it will be closer than the last game, simply cause the jags have a lot to play for and they are at home.. but I think we have a good chance of winning.

Cheroqui
12-20-2004, 02:57 PM
Of course we can beat them. We beat them before when they were pulling wins out of their -$$, and yes they are playing tough but we can do it. Look at how we played the Colts last time, was it a 51-14 blowout? No. I see it like this... We beat the Jags before, we beat the Titans, the Titans hung in there against the Colts for a minute. Then we did pretty good against the Colts, so averaging all of those games of teams we beat and teams we didn't get destroyed by I would say we can take this one! We have to watch out for Fred Taylor and that it, the rest should work out fine. Like I mentioned in other posts, we seem to get at least one pickoff or fumble a game so if we can capitalize on those efforts for 3-7 it's a wrap!

RWBinJax
12-20-2004, 02:58 PM
Grid:

I also believe it will be a close game. I hope for a different outcome this time.

In the meantime, let's hope both teams get out of the game without significant injuries.

gwallaia
12-20-2004, 03:09 PM
The Texans were able to get pressure on Hutchinson in the Chicago game but the Jacksonville team is much better than the Bears and getting consistent pressure on Leftwich will be a major key if the Texans hope to pull out a win.

Jagsbch
12-20-2004, 03:51 PM
Now hear this the Jags will be going all out with a Blitz Creed. Heads are going to roll. This will be a very Physical game between these two AFC South rivals. I love the sound of an O-line is distress, it just warms the cockles of my heart... :heh:

Lucky
12-20-2004, 04:16 PM
Now hear this the Jags will be going all out with a Blitz Creed.
I hope you're right. The book on defending the Texans is to let the front 4 get pressure and play a deep zone. The Jags blitzing and leaving the Texan WRs in man coverage would be a belated, but much appreciated, Xmas present.

Jagsbch
12-20-2004, 04:30 PM
I don't think it will be much of a Christmas present when Carr will have to be pealling his rear end from off the turf at Alltel.

Lucky
12-20-2004, 04:38 PM
I don't think it will be much of a Christmas present when Carr will have to be pealling his rear end from off the turf at Alltel.
You do realize that Carr has never lost at Alltel, right? In fact, Carr as a starter is 3-1 against the Jags. But, I bet you knew that.

GO_TEXANS143BUFFALO
12-20-2004, 06:22 PM
i HPOE THE KICK AS$!!!!

BigDTexansFan
12-20-2004, 07:55 PM
That was a big win for the Jags yesterday, but the Pack has been Jekyll and Hyde at home all season. That was their 4th loss at Lambeau this year..


Leftwich looked like he got beat up pretty good, if Dunta and rest of D...hit him a lot expect to see him make some mistakes which favors us. JMHO :banana:

texan4life
12-20-2004, 08:15 PM
Living in jax. i have seen them and the de arent that good so our o-line shouldn't have that hard of a time

kevinjagsfan
12-20-2004, 08:16 PM
Darius will play next week, regardless if he is suspended or not. He will appeal it, and will not have to serve it until the appeal is heard. He probably will just get a fine.

kevinjagsfan
12-20-2004, 08:18 PM
Living in jax. i have seen them and the de arent that good so our o-line shouldn't have that hard of a time

are you kidding? do the names stroud and henderson ring a bell? you better hope your O-Line brings its A-Game to Florida this week.

how many O-Line starters were out when we played the 2nd time last year? does anyone know? i can't find the starting lineups

wags
12-20-2004, 08:28 PM
how many O-Line starters were out when we played the 2nd time last year? does anyone know? i can't find the starting lineups

Our LT and RT are new to the lineup, so we'll have at least two different starters from last year. Our starting RG is injured so we'll have his backup in. LG and C played last year. Much to your disappointment I'm sure, we will not be starting our third string QB like last year.

David_Carr8
12-20-2004, 09:20 PM
Now hear this the Jags will be going all out with a Blitz Creed. Heads are going to roll. This will be a very Physical game between these two AFC South rivals. I love the sound of an O-line is distress, it just warms the cockles of my heart... :heh:
ummm do u mean blitzkrieg instead of blitz creed?

byron leftwitch is gonna have an awful game. david carr will do good.

texans:35
jags:21

aj.
12-20-2004, 10:27 PM
Texans Starting O @ Jax last year:

Offense WR 80 A.Johnson - same
LT 69 C.Pitts (now Wand)
LG 77 T.Washington (now Pitts)
C 76 S.McKinney - same
RG 72 Z.Wiegert (injured last week - being replaced by backup T. Washington)
RT 68 G.Randall (now Wade - is Randall even in the league any more?)
TE 82 B.Miller - same ... on passing downs
WR 86 J.Gaffney - same
QB 4 D.Ragone (now Carr - Ragone was/is still the 3rd stringer)
RB 25 T.Hollings (now Davis - Hollings was/is still the 3rd stringer)
TE 89 J.Holloway (now Bruener - is Jabari still in the league?)

FILO_girl
12-20-2004, 10:39 PM
Our boys can do this. They did it before and will do it again. :dancing:

Plus they are coming off a win and will be fired up over the Darius debacle also. Plus Leftwich is spending more "down" time on the turf than David is. :heh:

To Santa: I have been very good this year. All I ask for is a good CLEAN game and a WIN for the TEXANS on 12/26. Oh yea, and a new broom to sweep the kitty poop outta here!!!!

Signed,

FILOgirl

P.S.- There is some Crown in your cup of coffee. Rest of the bottle will be under the sink. :woot

David_Carr8
12-21-2004, 07:43 AM
when the texans play the jags yea

david carr and the rest of them guys r going to eat lighting

and **** thunder

Supertex
12-21-2004, 10:36 AM
I beleive if our offensive line steps up we will take this game. I also agree with the rotation of wells and dd. This would give them each time to freshen up before reentering the playing field. I beleive Robinson is going to have a big day againt leftwich. I suspect at least 1 interception. Also, Sharper is very fired up for this one as I saw on the night show. We swept the titans and now if we sweep the jags we will make a better foundation name for ourselves. It would be nice to take this game and say we will conquer it but reality is it will be close. I still see a texans win though.

Hoosier
12-21-2004, 06:34 PM
Just curious what everyone thinks this week...I'm pretty nervous about this one...Watching the jags play lately they look like their on fire...They almost took the steelers also...And the way we've been playing it seems we've stepped backwards instead of forwards...Don't get me wrong i will stand by my Texans, but they still didn't seem like they played 100% yesterday despite winning...The Bears knew they played bad also, but the Jags aren't the Bears...Their a good team....I just hope we can pull this off a second time... :whew

If you play them like you did us you'll win going away. Git-er-dun!!
Steve

mike moffat
12-22-2004, 12:24 AM
I'm a Texas Boy and will always be a Texas Boy. My head says one thing and my heart says another.
What the hey! Go with my heart.
TEXANS by 4.
31 - 27 :whoohoo:

SESupergenius
12-22-2004, 01:00 AM
Leftwitch has taken some shots lately, especially last week. I don't know how the guy does it, but he takes a pounding and still keeps going. I suspect this will be a defensive battle with a low scoring game. I just don't see how we pull this one off when they have a lot to play for and are at home. Carr needs this game in a real bad way to put some more hope going into next year. We need to finish strong.

Buffalo_66
12-22-2004, 10:08 AM
dont forget...you guys won 20-6 in week 8 or 9 I (can't remember) what week that was...anyway...go TeXaNs...we really need you to win to make the playoffs...

Texizgreat
12-22-2004, 10:35 PM
If we win this one OMG we are looking at 3 in a row!!! Could it happen?

jagsfanincanada
12-23-2004, 11:06 AM
If you play them like you did us you'll win going away. Git-er-dun!!
Steve

And if we play them like we played the Packers we'll win going away. :)

TexansTrueFan
12-23-2004, 01:48 PM
hmmm the titans beat the packers twice as bad as you guys at lambeau field, haha and look at the titans, so lets try to keep the bragging down to a minimum buddy ! :fib

kuno
12-24-2004, 05:39 PM
The Jaguars are fighting like hell for the last playoff spot. They will no doubt be pumped up for this game. Texans should be relaxed with nothing to lose, this could work to our advantage.

The offensive line better protect Carr because I'm sure Del Rio is instructing his players to injure him and end his career.

WTF does this stuff come from? I have been a Jag's fan for the entire life of the team and the Jaguars have never been a team to get a lot of personel fouls. They dont generaly injury players in any serious fashion and they dont take cheap shots.

They do play physical which sometimes results in a few hits that were not needed, but that is the cost of playing aggresive football. They are simply not a finesse team that can play without the aggresive attitude.

I assure you tho, neither the Jaguars coach or the fans want to see any serious injuries. Del Rio was a player once and still has the appreciation for what those injuries are.

TexansTrueFan
12-24-2004, 05:59 PM
well if thats the case maybe half your secondary should go going the WWE where they can close line all the time !

jagsfanincanada
12-24-2004, 06:24 PM
well if thats the case maybe half your secondary should go going the WWE where they can close line all the time !

And maybe your QB should retire to be a model! :rolleyes:

jagsfanincanada
12-24-2004, 06:25 PM
hmmm the titans beat the packers twice as bad as you guys at lambeau field, haha and look at the titans, so lets try to keep the bragging down to a minimum buddy ! :fib

Was that game in frigid temperatures? I don't think so. Old Man McNair wouldn't have been able to get out of bed for the game we just played.

TexansTrueFan
12-24-2004, 07:22 PM
oh haha and i suppose the jags are just so used to those cold harsh tempatures as well ! Give me a break

jagualex
12-24-2004, 08:03 PM
oh haha and i suppose the jags are just so used to those cold harsh tempatures as well ! Give me a break

no they are not, because they are from Jacksonville.... but they did beat them i think, well maybe i recall them beatin them hmm... maybe they didnt beat the packers who were like 38-1 or somthing like that in weather under 30 degrees... if beating them in those conditions doesnt qualify the jags to be considered contenders i dont know what does... and to the other soft tinhorn fan who thinks that we need to stop bragging, all i got to say is that we beat them, and did you?

and in no way is anyone in their right mind going to say that the players for the jags need to go to the WWE, because if you were an intelligent person then you would know that the angle that DD was in there was nothing he could have done besides stick his arm out at the guy and attempt to tackle him or grab him or something but anything that happened after that was not intentional.

TexansTrueFan
12-24-2004, 08:21 PM
yes yall beat them and we BEAT yall, funny kinda argument dont ya think ?

TexansTrueFan
12-24-2004, 09:14 PM
Real funny, maybe your QB should do a remake of Different Strokes. :rolleyes:


haha thats good ^^^^^^ :banana:

TexansTrueFan
12-25-2004, 03:09 PM
well we sent all our players to a wrestling camp to learn how to protect from the clothes lines and stuff thats all ! plus it was sarcasim get over it !

Fargin
12-25-2004, 07:08 PM
well we sent all our players to a wrestling camp to learn how to protect from the clothes lines and stuff thats all ! plus it was sarcasim get over it !


If your players are all that worried about being clotheslined, that's great. They'll never know what happened when our team smashes them in the mouth with good solid football on both sides of the ball. You just keep being afraid of our secondary, Ok.