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maddogmrb
08-15-2008, 03:28 PM
Our ENTIRE backfield (yes all QB's and RB's) to the Iggles for Kolb and Tony Hunt. I know some of you will like this..... :)

ChampionTexan
08-15-2008, 03:33 PM
Our ENTIRE backfield (yes all QB's and RB's) to the Iggles for Kolb and Tony Hunt. I know some of you will like this..... :)

I think you have a fine future as an NFL Network talent analyst once the determine that Charley Casserley is too competent for the job.

Polo
08-15-2008, 03:51 PM
In my best Jim Rome voice:


If by "some of you", you mean "barely anyone"... then I completely agree.

maddogmrb
08-15-2008, 04:01 PM
I think you have a fine future as an NFL Network talent analyst once the determine that Charley Casserley is too competent for the job.

Perhaps you're giving me too much credit.... :thinking:

eriadoc
08-15-2008, 04:13 PM
I might be convinced to trade our backfield for Kolb and Westbrook ..... OK, no.

I like Kolb, and our backfield is crap, but I think Schaub will be good.

gary
08-15-2008, 04:14 PM
After Matt is done I think it will be Shane's job to loose so no.

gary
08-15-2008, 04:18 PM
I do not consider our backfield total crap.

eriadoc
08-15-2008, 04:27 PM
I do not consider our backfield total crap.

Duly noted. We'll revisit at year's end.

gary
08-15-2008, 04:33 PM
It needs a little more work but to say it's crap is just dumb IMO.

eriadoc
08-15-2008, 04:34 PM
It needs a little more work but to say it's crap is just dumb IMO.

See above.

Honoring Earl 34
08-15-2008, 04:44 PM
It needs a little more work but to say it's crap is just dumb IMO.

I think the RBs and QBs could be good if things break right .

gary
08-15-2008, 04:44 PM
See above.That was not at you sorry if it came off like that but IMO wanting to trade away the whole backfield before they have a chance to blend together is just like saying that it is crap and giving them no credit.

eriadoc
08-15-2008, 04:46 PM
I should clarify - when I say backfield, I'm referring to our running backs. As a group, they are crap. The only guy I have any optimism for is Slaton. I guess we'll just wait and see. I would hate to be right.

gary
08-15-2008, 04:46 PM
I think the RBs and QBs could be good if things break right .The RBs for sure.

headsplint
08-15-2008, 04:50 PM
That was not at you sorry if it came off like that but IMO wanting to trade away the whole backfield before they have a chance to blend together is just like saying that it is crap and giving them no credit.

If one or more of our Rb's have some great flashy runs against the Saints most of this predictable "the sky is falling" should die down, and people will regain their wits about them, instead of rambling on about trading this guy or that guy. It really gets old and tired, and until we get a true shot at what they can do all this speculation is one big old yawn fest.

PapaL
08-15-2008, 04:51 PM
I think the term backfield was used here to include QBs, FBs and RBs.

gary
08-15-2008, 04:51 PM
I should clarify - when I say backfield, I'm referring to our running backs. As a group, they are crap. The only guy I have any optimism for is Slaton. I guess we'll just wait and see. I would hate to be right.Agree about the RBs sorry I thought you all were talking about the other kind of backfield.

GuerillaBlack
08-15-2008, 04:53 PM
In my best Jim Rome voice:


If by "some of you", you mean "barely anyone"... then I completely agree.

More Jim Rome:

"I mean the that would be just stupid. (long pause...) Why would someone want a trade like that. (long pause) (paper crumble). Don't call my show clones with some horrible trade. A trade that just doesn't make any sense. (long pause) Alright next up we have..."

gary
08-15-2008, 04:55 PM
If one or more of our Rb's have some great flashy runs against the Saints most of this predictable "the sky is falling" should die down, and people will regain their wits about them, instead of rambling on about trading this guy or that guy. It really gets old and tired, and until we get a true shot at what they can do all this speculation is one big old yawn fest.I was talking about the wrong backfield. Sorry. Please forgive me I feel so bad.

Corrosion
08-15-2008, 04:57 PM
I should clarify - when I say backfield, I'm referring to our running backs. As a group, they are crap. The only guy I have any optimism for is Slaton. I guess we'll just wait and see. I would hate to be right.

I'd trade all our RB's (cept maybe Slaton) for a cold beer at the next Texans game ....

badboy
08-15-2008, 05:12 PM
Did not take time to read all responses but I think Walker will prove to be pretty good as will Slaton. I am hopeful Taylor will develop although he has shown be nothing to make this season's team. If he can play FB, he should make team. Brown needs to play like a man on fire against Saints and then he can coast until season. I am not very optimistic about him or Green.

gary
08-15-2008, 05:29 PM
Hopefully Walker will prove to be huge.

maddogmrb
08-15-2008, 06:04 PM
We've never had a QB who can read the field as smoothly as Kolb does and throw as accurately as he does and we've never had a RB who can run like Tony Hunt did last night.

:fans:

Honoring Earl 34
08-15-2008, 06:08 PM
We've never had a QB who can read the field as smoothly as Kolb does and throw as accurately as he does and we've never had a RB who can run like Tony Hunt did last night.

:fans:

OK ... I'll bet Sage and Schaub can read a field better than a 2nd year QB .

gary
08-15-2008, 06:12 PM
Agreed.

Goldensilence
08-15-2008, 06:39 PM
I would trade Richard Smith for Jim Johnson.

gary
08-15-2008, 06:42 PM
I don't know what to say.

maddogmrb
08-15-2008, 06:56 PM
OK ... I'll bet Sage and Schaub can read a field better than a 2nd year QB .

I don't think so. Have you seen Kolb play? Last night his OL was terrible and he still picked apart a pretty good Carolina defense. And he's only going to get better.

And ...... I'll do the Richard Smith for Jim Johnson deal, too.

steelbtexan
08-15-2008, 06:57 PM
I would trade Richard Smith for Jim Johnson.

agreed

TEXANRED
08-15-2008, 07:04 PM
I do not consider our backfield total crap.

I hope this is sarcasm.

Boyd is the Beta version of VY.

gary
08-15-2008, 07:05 PM
If the Texans make the playoffs this season would you all still say this?

GuerillaBlack
08-15-2008, 07:06 PM
If the Texans make the playoffs this season would you all still say this?

Yes. I'll say this: "we had a crappy backfield and still made the playoffs".

gary
08-15-2008, 07:08 PM
I hope this is sarcasm.

Boyd is the Beta version of VY.Boyd is a QB not the backfield.

gary
08-15-2008, 07:10 PM
Yes. I'll say this: "we had a crappy backfield and still made the playoffs".Not that the Smith trade.

TEXANRED
08-15-2008, 07:11 PM
Boyd is a QB not the backfield.

Well I know that. I was responding to you saying that Boyd is the future of the Texans.

gary
08-15-2008, 07:16 PM
Well I know that. I was responding to you saying that Boyd is the future of the Texans.He did have an ok game last weekend and after the game that is what some folks on this board were saying.

LORK 88
08-15-2008, 07:24 PM
I love it when pre-season becomes law of the land. If you can do it against second stringers for 1 game you apparently can do it against anyone!!

TEXANRED
08-15-2008, 07:24 PM
He did have an ok game last weekend and after the game that is what some folks on this board were saying.

He did an OK job running. If IIRC he was the Cards QB in preseason and looked Horrid when trying to throw the ball.

Call me old fashioned but I believe a QB should be able to throw.

gary
08-15-2008, 07:29 PM
Well ok maybe so but don't just tell me this tell some other people on this board as well.

Carr Bombed
08-15-2008, 07:36 PM
There should be a disclaimer in the title.......I just wasted a good 10 minutes reading this thread.

TEXANRED
08-15-2008, 07:36 PM
Well ok maybe so but don't just tell me this tell some other people on this board as well.

Thats just way to many people to quote.

gary
08-15-2008, 07:40 PM
Thats just way to many people to quote.LOL. I did notice he had trouble throwing.

ObsiWan
08-15-2008, 07:51 PM
He did an OK job running. If IIRC he was the Cards QB in preseason and looked Horrid when trying to throw the ball.

Call me old fashioned but I believe a QB should be able to throw.

I thought Boyd looked rather sharp for us last week.
He hit Carter(?) dead between the numbers and he (Carter) flat dropped the ball. He wasn't throwing behind guys or into traffic like Sage was. I dunno whut was wrong with Sage last week.... ...off night I guess...

And I like a QB, with quick feet, that can get a few yds from time to time on the run. However, I do wholeheartedly agree, a QB's primary weapon should be his brain, followed very closely by his arm.

gary
08-15-2008, 07:56 PM
We'll just have watch more of him I guess.

steelbtexan
08-15-2008, 08:04 PM
I"m looking forward to seeing Brink play this weekend.

Brink or Boyd may be our backup QB in 09-10

barrett
08-16-2008, 02:42 AM
Our ENTIRE backfield (yes all QB's and RB's) to the Iggles for Kolb and Tony Hunt. I know some of you will like this..... :)

you're high and dumb.

bollocks
08-16-2008, 04:11 AM
It needs a little more work but to say it's crap is just dumb IMO.

It's not quite crap. It's not too much better than crap though. This season, in my opinion is make or break for Schaub; if his performance isn't improved than I would be comfortable looking into other options. We can't make the mistake of hanging onto a bad QB for too long (like we did with Carr). As far as RBs go, Leach is solid and both Slaton and Walker have third down back potential. Aside from that, I open to getting rid of it all.

Carr Bombed
08-16-2008, 04:23 AM
you're high and dumb.

hmm.. I guess you missed my post....

There should be a disclaimer in the title.......I just wasted a good 10 minutes reading this thread.

Seriously for the betterment of mankind, there has got to be a way that we can warn others from clicking on this thread........we are the last hope.

gary
08-16-2008, 10:19 AM
It's not quite crap. It's not too much better than crap though. This season, in my opinion is make or break for Schaub; if his performance isn't improved than I would be comfortable looking into other options. We can't make the mistake of hanging onto a bad QB for too long (like we did with Carr). As far as RBs go, Leach is solid and both Slaton and Walker have third down back potential. Aside from that, I open to getting rid of it all.I agree. I've said before that I was talking about the backfield on the D side of the football.

Silver Oak
08-16-2008, 11:54 AM
It's not quite crap. It's not too much better than crap though. This season, in my opinion is make or break for Schaub; if his performance isn't improved than I would be comfortable looking into other options. We can't make the mistake of hanging onto a bad QB for too long (like we did with Carr). As far as RBs go, Leach is solid and both Slaton and Walker have third down back potential. Aside from that, I open to getting rid of it all.

without injuries, as you well know, Schaub was on pace to be one of the top 6 NFL qb's as far as statistics go.

I wouldn't go so far as to say this is a make or break season for him at all. I too wish to see him play all 16 (or more) games, and pass for multiple td's and yardage, but some things are out of his control, and I think it's a season premature to label this a make or break deal. Next year perhaps, if he regresses this year, but I'm an optimist and I think I've seen enough to have him qb our team for awhile.

gary
08-16-2008, 12:01 PM
Matt has to stay healthy.

Polo
08-16-2008, 12:41 PM
He did an OK job running. If IIRC he was the Cards QB in preseason and looked Horrid when trying to throw the ball.

Call me old fashioned but I believe a QB should be able to throw.

I don't think you recall correctly...

By my memory He looked pretty good...

In fact the Texans told Arizona that as soon as they cut Boyd we were going to pick him up because of the promise he showed...

bollocks
08-16-2008, 02:02 PM
without injuries, as you well know, Schaub was on pace to be one of the top 6 NFL qb's as far as statistics go.

I wouldn't go so far as to say this is a make or break season for him at all. I too wish to see him play all 16 (or more) games, and pass for multiple td's and yardage, but some things are out of his control, and I think it's a season premature to label this a make or break deal. Next year perhaps, if he regresses this year, but I'm an optimist and I think I've seen enough to have him qb our team for awhile.

Top 6? I disagree. He needs to improve his decision making before I would even consider him for the top 10. He has a solid arm and good intangibles, but he is still a rough product that needs A LOT of work. I expect to see better decision making in the redzone and more TDs than INTs, something this team has only accomplished three times since 2002 (Carr: 2004 and 2005, Rosenfels: 2007). Obviously, enough toughness for a full 16 games would be a plus as well.

Said simply, Schaub has played like a back-up with potential...which isn't good enough. He needs to get better because we DO NOT have another six years to waste "developing" a back-up with potential.

Blasphemy alert!!!: While I've certainly seen worse from Carr than from Schaub. I would take Carr at his best (the 2004 version) over the Schaub we saw last season.

GuerillaBlack
08-16-2008, 02:04 PM
Top 6? I disagree. He needs to improve his decision making before I would even consider him for the top 10. He has a solid arm and good intangibles, but he is still a rough product that needs A LOT of work. I expect to see better decision making in the redzone and more TDs than INTs, something this team has only accomplished three times since 2002 (Carr: 2004 and 2005, Rosenfels: 2007). Obviously, enough toughness for a full 16 games would be a plus as well.

Said simply, Schaub has played like a back-up with potential...which isn't good enough. He needs to get better because we DO NOT have another six years to waste "developing" a back-up with potential.

Blasphemy alert!!!: While I've certainly seen worse from Carr than from Schaub. I would take Carr at his best (the 2004 version) over the Schaub we saw last season.

He said statistics wise.

Polo
08-16-2008, 02:23 PM
Blasphemy alert!!!: While I've certainly seen worse from Carr than from Schaub. I would take Carr at his best (the 2004 version) over the Schaub we saw last season.

Too bad life doesn't operate in a one year vaccum...

bollocks
08-16-2008, 02:52 PM
He said statistics wise.

Ah, my mistake.

That being the case, statistics are just that...statistics. They are good for Pro Bowl voting and ESPN graphics. Aside from that, they are just numbers that some people use to justify mediocre play (this is usually the case with the horrid QB rating).


Too bad life doesn't operate in a one year vaccum...

Correct. Nor was that what I was implying. Simply that Carr (who I am certainly glad that we made an effort to replace) had shown me more during his tenure than Schaub has to date.

Don't get me wrong, I am fully supportive of Schaub. I want him to live up to his potential. I am just not willing to wait six years for it. At the end of this season, I think we'll have a good idea of what we are going to get with Schaub.

Wolf
08-16-2008, 04:04 PM
I'd trade all our RB's (cept maybe Slaton) for a cold beer at the next Texans game ....

You'll have to refresh my memory, I can't remember who was the stud runningback .. way back when

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Silver Oak
08-16-2008, 06:26 PM
Don't get me wrong, I am fully supportive of Schaub. I want him to live up to his potential. I am just not willing to wait six years for it. At the end of this season, I think we'll have a good idea of what we are going to get with Schaub.

I don't think I'm willing to wait 6 years either, but to say that year 2 is a make or break season is pretty unfair IMO.

Not being argumentative with you bollocks, but what exactly do you want Schaub to do that would show he belongs? Staying healthy? Fewer int.'s? Better Red Zone percentage?

Maybe it was due to his predecessor, but I thought he looked pretty darn good until a couple of pretty brutal hits he took last season.

I could be wrong about Schaub, God knows I backed DC too long, but I think he's the answer for the next 3-5 years, and I believe the staff feels the same way.

Polo
08-17-2008, 02:22 AM
Don't get me wrong, I am fully supportive of Schaub. I want him to live up to his potential. I am just not willing to wait six years for it. At the end of this season, I think we'll have a good idea of what we are going to get with Schaub.


Sorry, But even up to this point David had never shown the type of QB'ing prowess that Schaub has shown...

I was never really impresed with David's game...

Only thing he has over Schaub at this point is durability...