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prostock101
08-10-2008, 09:50 AM
Didn't think I'd ever in a million years say that. But after watching our inept running game last night, I had a little voice in my head (not to be confused with the other voices) that whispered........"Dayne Train".

Vinny
08-10-2008, 10:05 AM
I miss Allen Pinkett, Mike Rozier, and Lo White more than I miss Ron Dayne. I guess I miss real NFL feature backs in my NFL team of choice.

prostock101
08-10-2008, 10:09 AM
In that case, I miss Earl Campbell.

Just for grins, what FA running backs are available?

Thorn
08-10-2008, 10:19 AM
Somewhere in one of these threads, Malloy pointed out that Dayne was our most consistent RB after Dominick Davis. That much is true, and we should be thankful for his service. I know I am. At least Dayne could start your games for you and didn't get injured every other play.

GP
08-10-2008, 10:23 AM
I miss Allen Pinkett, Mike Rozier, and Lo White more than I miss Ron Dayne. I guess I miss real NFL feature backs in my NFL team of choice.

And Gary Brown, at least the early Gary Brown.

I feel ya'.

I loved it when we threw the screen pass and it rumbled for upwards of 30 yards or more...man, that was an awesome sight to see the OL rumbling down the field and just steamrolling defensive players while our RB just danced back and forth, in and out of traffic, like it was nothing.

Dang you, vinny, for bringing this up. :cool:

TEXANRED
08-10-2008, 10:31 AM
Yes I can see where trying to replace Ron Danynes 700 rushing yards and six TDs will be a problem to replace.

Dayne sucked. Is he even on a team right now? He is probably fighting Lindell White for the last pork chop on the buffet line.

And making the statement that Dayne is the most consistent back in our storied franchise is lazy journalism. Our RB have been Allen, Mack, DD, Green, and Dayne. Not exactly a HOF list.

Dayne sucked and I am glad he is gone.

Thorn
08-10-2008, 10:35 AM
And making the statement that Dayne is the most consistent back in our storied franchise is lazy journalism.


No one said that, what was said was that AFTER Dominck Davis he was our most consistent. Isn't it sad that after all these Texan seasons that DD still holds the records for rushing in a season, all time rushing yards, and still holds the team record for most combined yards in a season.

prostock101
08-10-2008, 10:40 AM
Has Shaun Alexander signed with anyone? I'm not advocating, just curious.


Found something......

Judge: NFL wary of RB Alexander: CBSSports.com Senior Writer Clark Judge polled the NFL's coaching and personnel community to get an idea of what people think of current free-agent RB Shaun Alexander. The result? Not good. The prevailing opinion was that Alexander is too 'soft' to play in the NFL and not worth the money he'd want since he's a former MVP. However, several folks do believe that Alexander will resurface as a team hopes to use him as part of a running attack. "He doesn't have anything left," an NFC general manager told Judge. "People are always talking about the numbers, but the numbers don't tell the story. There's the injury factor. And the hands factor. And a desire and competitiveness that don't seem to be there. He's never been known as a very tough player, and there have always been questions about his attitude. I'm not saying that because he's out there (unsigned) now. I would have told you the same thing four or five years ago. Basically, I don't like him (as a back), and I don't trust him."
(Updated 06/18/2008).

Vinny
08-10-2008, 10:41 AM
Has Shaun Alexander signed with anyone? I'm not advocating, just curious.heck I was asking people in the stands where Ced Benson was. :gun:

prostock101
08-10-2008, 10:45 AM
I would not be surprised if Mike Bell was resigned. And Charles Spencer brought back for the practice squad after we cut Weary.

Thorn
08-10-2008, 10:50 AM
I know this thread is about missing Ron Dayne, but just for grins, we should really be missing Domanick Davis. These are Texan records he still holds.

All-time individual records
Rushing Yards: 3,195, Domanick Davis
Rushing Attempts: 770, Domanick Davis
Rushing Touchdowns: 23, Domanick Davis
Combined Touchdowns: 28, Domanick Davis
Combined Yards: 4,585, Domanick Davis

Single season records
Touchdowns: 14, Domanick Davis (2004)
Rushing Attempts: 302, Domanick Davis (2004)
Rushing Yards: 1,188, Domanick Davis (2004)
Rushing Touchdowns: 13, Domanick Davis (2004)

Single game records
Longest Rushing Play: 51 yards, Domanick Davis (November 9, 2003 at Cincinnati)

Hardcore Texan
08-10-2008, 11:45 AM
I get the feeling that Slaton is going to get a LOT of work this season.

Specnatz
08-10-2008, 11:51 AM
I do not think D Walker did all that bad since he was running with the third string. At least e fell forward everytime.


Oh and in no way do I will Ron Dayne who did ok, unless it was 3rd and 1 and then he thought he was a scat back and tried to dance around instead of using his 260lbs and hit the hole with authority. No thanks on that.

PapaL
08-10-2008, 12:00 PM
I miss Ron Dayne like I miss a kick in the nuts.

Don't mistake a history of poor RB play and Dayne playing ok as anything special.

Saying he was the second best RB means he was better than J.Wells?

gg no re
08-10-2008, 12:13 PM
Don't kid yourself, Ron Dayne was the deal. You asked him to give you one yard, he gave you three.

You asked him for four yards, he gave you three.

MojoMan
08-10-2008, 12:16 PM
Is Ron Dayne on anyone's roster right now?

prostock101
08-10-2008, 12:31 PM
Don't kid yourself, Ron Dayne was the deal. You asked him to give you one yard, he gave you three.

You asked him for four yards, he gave you three.

Too funny! I miss that fat bastard.

IlliniJen
08-10-2008, 01:41 PM
I miss Rashard Mendenhall.

Oh, that's right, we forgot to draft him.

nunusguy
08-10-2008, 01:49 PM
I miss Rashard Mendenhall.

Oh, that's right, we forgot to draft him.

Based on early returns from last night, I'm even happier with our first-round pick than I was before the game started.

dtran04
08-10-2008, 01:53 PM
Based on early returns from last night, I'm even happier with our first-round pick than I was before the game started.

Imagine who would be playing tackle if the Texans didn't draft Brown.

nunusguy
08-10-2008, 01:54 PM
I get the feeling that Slaton is going to get a LOT of work this season.
Touch him, and he falls down. Of course that's a damn site better than Green.
But to Slatons credit, he held on to the ball last night, even at the end of the game with all of those runs up the middle to kill the clock when you know the Broncos were going for it. And he's got a sweet little burst when given a
hole to run thru.

V Man
08-10-2008, 02:44 PM
I miss Rashard Mendenhall.

Oh, that's right, we forgot to draft him.

If that is the case, I miss Clinton Portis, oh I forgot we got Jabar Gaffney instead.

OrdinaryAvgGuy
08-10-2008, 03:35 PM
Imagine who would be playing tackle if the Texans didn't draft Brown.

The opposing team's D-line and linebackers...

...on EVERY down...

Koolaid Time
08-10-2008, 04:20 PM
heck I was asking people in the stands where Ced Benson was. :gun:

Benson is still subject to suspension by the NFL for the DWI/BWI's, even if anyone is desperate enough to consider signing him.

But its Travis County, and when ex-UT football players are concerned, criminal cases there often "magically" fall apart...

PapaL
08-10-2008, 05:06 PM
Is Ron Dayne on anyone's roster right now?

I think he's on the Denny's Roster right now.

b0ng
08-10-2008, 05:20 PM
I miss Rashard Mendenhall.

Oh, that's right, we forgot to draft him.

I'll take Duane Brown, Steve Slaton, and Dominique Barber over Rashard Mendenhall thankyouverymuchplzdrivethrough

stingray
08-10-2008, 05:43 PM
Sage for Chester Taylor anyone?

PapaL
08-10-2008, 05:46 PM
Sage for Chester Taylor anyone?

Not yet. At this point rather have a bunch of crappy RBs then a crappy backup QB. You can always fall into a decent a RB, by always I mean most every other team besides us - though DD did fill that billet for us.

junior
08-10-2008, 11:25 PM
I know this thread is about missing Ron Dayne, but just for grins, we should really be missing Domanick Davis. These are Texan records he still holds.

All-time individual records
Rushing Yards: 3,195, Domanick Davis
Rushing Attempts: 770, Domanick Davis
Rushing Touchdowns: 23, Domanick Davis
Combined Touchdowns: 28, Domanick Davis
Combined Yards: 4,585, Domanick Davis

Single season records
Touchdowns: 14, Domanick Davis (2004)
Rushing Attempts: 302, Domanick Davis (2004)
Rushing Yards: 1,188, Domanick Davis (2004)
Rushing Touchdowns: 13, Domanick Davis (2004)

Single game records
Longest Rushing Play: 51 yards, Domanick Davis (November 9, 2003 at Cincinnati)

i think he also holds the record for quickest trip to the atm after he signed his contract.

also most knee injuries without ever actually being hit on the knee or seriously twisting it on a tackle, he looked like green yesterday. after the play, he was hurt on you say to yourself where the heck did the injury occur.

with all the crap we have had in our backfield i really miss jonathan wells. he may only give you 3 or 4 yards a carry but he seemed to give you all he had, i just dont see that from any other rb we have ever had.

dalemurphy
08-10-2008, 11:53 PM
Give me a break!

You guys wanting guys like Ron Dayne, Salaam on the team and calling for Sage Rosenfels to start are asking for mediocrity.

Absolutely, I appreciate what Dayne did for this team the past two seasons. However, we're trying to compete for championships now. Ron Dayne is way too limited a player for a team interested in the playoffs to have on a relatively healthy roster- what RB would you cut for him? Also, he can't run in this offense. Hear that?? He's too slow for the zone stretch play! He can not do it. Does everyone understand that?? One more time: Ron Dayne doesn't have the ability to run the ball in this offensive system... OKAY?

If you want Ron Dayne on this team please also reccomend that they get rid of Alex Gibbs and go to a power running game.

Specnatz
08-11-2008, 12:30 AM
Give me a break!

You guys wanting guys like Ron Dayne, Salaam on the team and calling for Sage Rosenfels to start are asking for mediocrity.

Absolutely, I appreciate what Dayne did for this team the past two seasons. However, we're trying to compete for championships now. Ron Dayne is way too limited a player for a team interested in the playoffs to have on a relatively healthy roster- what RB would you cut for him? Also, he can't run in this offense. Hear that?? He's too slow for the zone stretch play! He can not do it. Does everyone understand that?? One more time: Ron Dayne doesn't have the ability to run the ball in this offensive system... OKAY?

If you want Ron Dayne on this team please also reccomend that they get rid of Alex Gibbs and go to a power running game.

Wanting him on the team is not the same thing as wanting someone better to start. Salaam is like the Frank Reich of LT he can come in and get the job done on short term but over the long haul not so much. Why you hate the guy so much is something I can not figure out. It could be worse and have that LT who was playing for philly last year, or the RT for the Broncos.

dalemurphy
08-11-2008, 01:53 AM
Wanting him on the team is not the same thing as wanting someone better to start. Salaam is like the Frank Reich of LT he can come in and get the job done on short term but over the long haul not so much. Why you hate the guy so much is something I can not figure out. It could be worse and have that LT who was playing for philly last year, or the RT for the Broncos.



I don't hate him. He's just too often overmatched. And, at 33, I don't think that will be changing. I'd genuinely rather have Butler and Frye on the team. Both look quite competant, have a lot of athleticism, and lots of room for improvement.

Scooter
08-11-2008, 02:31 AM
i think salaam's absolutely horrible and would replace him in an instant. i'm however part of a very small minority that really liked ron dayne (despite him ruining my favorite player). my first thought after watching tayler and walker was - i'd trade em both for dayne. neither of those players are going to accomplish much, and neither would dayne, but with ronnie you knew what you were getting - an end game player, a bruiser, and someone who fell forward. dayne's the option that glues your starter and slaton, he just happened to be forced into a starter role. with a 4.0ypc and 6 touchdowns last season, he not only did his job - he did someone else's because they couldnt. i'm not sure who came in after green but they spent more time falling ass first and spinning than running ... slaton was the closest thing to a runningback that i saw.

PapaL
08-11-2008, 07:11 AM
Bring back Sherman! Not really

Texanmike02
08-11-2008, 08:36 AM
Not yet. At this point rather have a bunch of crappy RBs then a crappy backup QB. You can always fall into a decent a RB, by always I mean most every other team besides us - though DD did fill that billet for us.

Wow.

HoustonFrog
08-11-2008, 08:45 AM
Has running back turned into the elephant in the room. I trust Kubes and Smith and think they have done a great job but I really believe that you need some stability at RB while looking to the future and oft-injured vets mixed with younger/tweener/FA type guys just doesn't seem to get me excited year in and year out. Maybe Mendehall wouldn't have worked out..I red that he isn't having a great Pitt camp...and maybe they didn't like who was there and Slaton will be more than a 3rd down guy. Either way, the questions persist and I think this year in and year out cluster of RBs needs to change.

Polo
08-11-2008, 10:24 AM
I'd rather bring back Jonathan Wells.

HOU-TEX
08-11-2008, 10:40 AM
I'd rather have my sack speed bagged. :gun:

Dayne...Pfft! Good Lord people!

Texan_Bill
08-11-2008, 10:47 AM
I'd rather have my sack speed bagged. :gun:

Dayne...Pfft! Good Lord people!

LMAO!!! I was waiting for you to get ahold of this thread.. You were actually quite more mellow than I was expecting.

HOU-TEX
08-11-2008, 10:55 AM
LMAO!!! I was waiting for you to get ahold of this thread.. You were actually quite more mellow than I was expecting.

I was going to, but I figured I've let my stance be known about Buffet Boy. I don't want to become like Second Honeymoon and his YKW rants. LMAO! :jogger:

The Pencil Neck
08-11-2008, 12:00 PM
I can't believe people are saying that Dayne always falls forward and that Dayne always gets 3 yards no matter what.

Think about all the times last year when it was 3rd or 4th and 1 and Dayne got stuffed. THAT'S why Dayne isn't here any more.

HJam72
08-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Dayne always gets 3 yards on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down; then, he gets none on 4th and 1.

How's that?

PHAROAH
08-11-2008, 12:41 PM
Please give me a break nobody misses fat & sorry Ron Dayne.

Texan_Bill
08-11-2008, 12:43 PM
Please give me a break nobody misses fat & sorry Ron Dayne.

Are you kidding me??? Ron "I never met a buffet I didn't like" Dayne was great fodder.

MojoMan
08-11-2008, 12:58 PM
Everybody here should stop dissing Ron Dayne. He did a good job during his tenure here. No way the Texans would have gone 8-8 last year without Ron Dayne.

Why do we have to trash everyone who is no longer on the roster? Let's try and show a little respect for a change.

J-Russ
08-11-2008, 01:11 PM
I miss Charles Spencer (pre-injury) more then Ron Dayne. I think drafting a rookie LT in the first round had something to do with his released....

PapaL
08-11-2008, 01:26 PM
Everybody here should stop dissing Ron Dayne. He did a good job during his tenure here. No way the Texans would have gone 8-8 last year without Ron Dayne.

Why do we have to trash everyone who is no longer on the roster? Let's try and show a little respect for a change.

No need to go netnanny - everyone is entitled to their opinion. Our ineptness at RB made his stats seems good but what did he really do in his time with us and over his career? If he was any good he'd be fighting for a roster spot along with current cast of misfits.

stiff
08-11-2008, 03:18 PM
Everybody here should stop dissing Ron Dayne. He did a good job during his tenure here. No way the Texans would have gone 8-8 last year without Ron Dayne.

Why do we have to trash everyone who is no longer on the roster? Let's try and show a little respect for a change.

Yes lets reserve that for those that deserve it like David "the gloves" Carr.

texansin08
08-11-2008, 03:22 PM
I know this thread is about missing Ron Dayne, but just for grins, we should really be missing Domanick Davis. These are Texan records he still holds.

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I agree, Domanick looked like he was going to be a top 10 running back in the league just a few short years ago. Times sure have changed.

Thorn
08-11-2008, 03:23 PM
Except for the two years Dominick Davis was in shape and running good, the Texans have always sucked at the running game. They still do right now, today. Hopefully Gibbs fixes that, but until he does and we see results on the field, the Texans suck at the running game just like they always have.

bollocks
08-11-2008, 04:43 PM
Not yet. At this point rather have a bunch of crappy RBs then a crappy backup QB. You can always fall into a decent a RB, by always I mean most every other team besides us - though DD did fill that billet for us.

After watching Saturday's game, I wouldn't quite call Shane Boyd a crappy back up. He definitely needs work, but the guy can play ball (hell, he currently leads all of our RBs in rushing yards). I have nothing but love for Sage Rosenfels, but he isn't getting any younger and if we are going to trade him for something worthwhile it needs to be done soon.

Big Lou
08-11-2008, 04:47 PM
Didn't think I'd ever in a million years say that. But after watching our inept running game last night, I had a little voice in my head (not to be confused with the other voices) that whispered........"Dayne Train".

Why, so he can end Duane Browns career by breaking his leg at the knee as well?

Malloy
08-11-2008, 04:51 PM
Why, so he can end Duane Browns career by breaking his leg at the knee as well?

I'm so tierd of these crappy comments. What about blaming Kubiak for calling the play that got the big guy hurt?

Its called a cheap shot... not very classy...

Hervoyel
08-11-2008, 04:52 PM
Why, so he can end Duane Browns career by breaking his leg at the knee as well?

Exactly. As we all know Ron Dayne measures success in the NFL by how many linemen he can cripple in the course of a season. His long history of breaking the legs of every LT that ever played in front of him bears this out right?

:thumbdown

Oh wait, no it doesn't.

cuppacoffee
08-11-2008, 05:04 PM
I would not be surprised if Mike Bell was resigned. And Charles Spencer brought back for the practice squad after we cut Weary.

I was thinking the same thing.. What would be the quickest solution..bring Bell back and run his arse off until he got back in shape..or sign another rb and wait for him to learn the system?

Desperate times call for desperate measures.


:coffee:

The Pencil Neck
08-11-2008, 05:19 PM
Is the situation desparate enough to use the Travis Henry card?

prostock101
08-11-2008, 05:26 PM
I certainly hope everyone did not think I was serious about bringing back the "Dayne Train". That being said, he did showup and have some decent games and filled in admirably for two years. He was never a frontline RB but as a 3rd down and goalline guy, he wasn't too bad.

My hat is off to that fat bastard and I'd take him anyday over "Mr. Mittens".

TEXANRED
08-11-2008, 06:05 PM
Everybody here should stop dissing Ron Dayne. He did a good job during his tenure here. No way the Texans would have gone 8-8 last year without Ron Dayne.

Why do we have to trash everyone who is no longer on the roster? Let's try and show a little respect for a change.

I suppose you also miss Stacy Mack, Allen, Wells, Matt Stevens, Corey Bradford, Ryan Young, Demingo Grahm, Victor Riley, David Carr, Seth Wand, Todd Wade, Tony Banks, Dave Ragone, ect.

And yes I do lump Dayne in will all of these stellar players.

Double Barrel
08-11-2008, 06:07 PM
I'll never dog Ron Dayne. We would be 0-12 against the Colts if it wasn't for his 153 yards rushing and 2 TDs on December 24, 2006.

TEXANRED
08-11-2008, 06:13 PM
I'm so tierd of these crappy comments. What about blaming Kubiak for calling the play that got the big guy hurt?

Its called a cheap shot... not very classy...

You can tell its football season again when the "Its not classy" comments start to come out.

I say it every year so this year should not be different, you want class, go watch golf. This sport is only for gladiators and warriors and not for the faint of heart.

And for the record not only did he end Spencer's career but he also ran of the back of Salaam the same day. Only Salaam played through his injury all year.

Even the buffet people wanted him gone. They see him and say, "Oh no! You be here four hour, you eat to much! Time for you to go home."

Lucky
08-11-2008, 06:14 PM
Is the situation desparate enough to use the Travis Henry card?
Henry popped positive on a urine test last month. He's looking at a one year suspension whenever Goodell rules on his case.

Thorn
08-11-2008, 06:16 PM
I suppose you also miss Stacy Mack, Allen, Wells, Matt Stevens, Corey Bradford, Ryan Young, Demingo Grahm, Victor Riley, David Carr, Seth Wand, Todd Wade, Tony Banks, Dave Ragone, ect.

And yes I do lump Dayne in will all of these stellar players.

Dayne was the only back we had last year that could get the job done, even if it wasn't always a good job, he was the best we had. Of course we all want a better back than Dayne, but if he's the best ya got, then you play him. And he did provide us with some excitement, the Dayne Train did make a few TDs for us.

Right now, other than Slayton, I don't see a lot in our backfield to get excited about. And Slayton isn't gonna be a full time back so we still aren't that much better off.

I think that Gibbs will make us a better running team even with the left overs we got for running backs. Maybe next year they'll draft us a real running back and the Oline will be able to block for him with a year in the trenches and two training camps using ZBS.

ATXtexanfan
08-11-2008, 06:26 PM
wow, this thread made it 4 pages. dayne sucks, unfortunately so does ahman, taylor, and brown. we'll deal with what we got. there is a reason why dayne is on the couch. unfortunately, there's a reason why ahman and brown were let go. don't see it in taylor, hopefully he finds his way after missing all of last year. i think walker and slaton can carry us through the year. they aren't a long term solution but they can get the job done. nobody misses dayne though.

Malloy
08-11-2008, 06:34 PM
I say it every year so this year should not be different, you want class, go watch golf. This sport is only for gladiators and warriors and not for the faint of heart.


I hope you realize how dumb this sounds? The sport is for gladiators and warriors... go cuddle up with your Conan the Barbarian tapes if it makes you feel better.

We are FANS, not 'gladiators and warriors', and neither are the players for that matter. Blaming Dayne for a freak accident is as silly as calling AJ injury-prone and wanting to get rid of him.

If you want gladiators and warriors I suggest you go watch pro wresling and pretend its all real, too many sissy rules in football because of the faint of heart.

MojoMan
08-11-2008, 07:36 PM
I suppose you also miss Stacy Mack, Allen, Wells, Matt Stevens, Corey Bradford, Ryan Young, Demingo Grahm, Victor Riley, David Carr, Seth Wand, Todd Wade, Tony Banks, Dave Ragone, ect.

And yes I do lump Dayne in will all of these stellar players.

Dayne did more for the Texans than any player on that list, other than David Carr. Once again, there is no way the Texan's would have gone 8-8 last year without the contribution made by Ron Dayne.

Tony Banks made a few noteworthy contributions as well, although I think that Ron Dayne did more for the Texan's franchise by far than Banks. The rest of those guys got paid for their time with the team, and were largely just short-timers passing though as the Texan's tried to build themselves into a contender.

David Carr's career was broken over the bow of the Texans franchise like a bottle of champagne used to christen a ship. Once again, I do not see why we have to disrespect David Carr around here. He spent his NFL career trying to get the Texan's expansion franchise off of the ground. He is now a shell of the player he might of been had he been given the chance to play from the start of his career for an established franchise. David Carr was not inherently a bad quarterback. He just had the misfortune to play his first five years as the starting quarterback of the expansion franchise Houston Texans.

AnthonyE
08-11-2008, 08:11 PM
David Carr's career was broken over the bow of the Texans franchise like a bottle of champagne used to christen a ship. Once again, I do not see why we have to disrespect David Carr around here. He spent his NFL career trying to get the Texan's expansion franchise off of the ground. He is now a shell of the player he might of been had he been given the chance to play from the start of his career for an established franchise. David Carr was not inherently a bad quarterback. He just had the misfortune to play his first five years as the starting quarterback of the expansion franchise Houston Texans.

I have to agree with you and I feel we are in the minority. The problem was that David Carr was the symbol of all that was wrong with the franchise. He stood for the blunders of Charlie C., he stood for a 23-52 record, and he stood for 27 fumbles and 65 picks. He stood for everything negative while he was here, and it's completely unfair to him. He never once complained, was durable even though he got hit about 30 times a game, and he tried his best to take this franchise as far as he could. It just wasn't good enough. I think the quarterback he is today is a product of 2 offensive coordinators and a patchwork offensive line with no answer at the left tackle position in his entire stay in Houston. Now, I admit, I occasionally take part in poking fun at David Carr, but I don't think he should take 33% of the blame from 2002-2006.

PapaL
08-11-2008, 10:36 PM
Is the situation desparate enough to use the Travis Henry card?

Depends on how all the fertile women in Houston feel about that one?

Go to a game and get a baby - Not sure how that promotion would fly.

The1ApplePie
08-11-2008, 11:35 PM
Trade a 3rd for LeDale White?

Kids a beast and the Titans seem to love their new guy

bollocks
08-12-2008, 03:37 AM
I have to agree with you and I feel we are in the minority. The problem was that David Carr was the symbol of all that was wrong with the franchise. He stood for the blunders of Charlie C., he stood for a 23-52 record, and he stood for 27 fumbles and 65 picks. He stood for everything negative while he was here, and it's completely unfair to him. He never once complained, was durable even though he got hit about 30 times a game, and he tried his best to take this franchise as far as he could. It just wasn't good enough. I think the quarterback he is today is a product of 2 offensive coordinators and a patchwork offensive line with no answer at the left tackle position in his entire stay in Houston. Now, I admit, I occasionally take part in poking fun at David Carr, but I don't think he should take 33% of the blame from 2002-2006.

Well said. Considering the circumstances, David Carr was an okay player. He was never a great player, in fact he was at times a sub-par player but, for the most part, David Carr was an all right player. He was the kind of quarterback that could dink and dunk, move on his feet, and (remarkably) could continue to get up from the endless beatings he took in the back field. Granted, I don't pin 100% of the sacks on the offensive line. Carr had (and still has) a problem with holding onto the ball longer than he should have. The core issue, in the end, was simply the fact that Carr lacked the ability to carry a team that was as sub-par as the 2002-2006 Houston Texans. He simply was not good enough. None-the-less, he tried valiantly to be a decent QB for our team and for that he should be commended.

PapaL
08-12-2008, 06:42 AM
Trade a 3rd for LeDale White?

Kid has breast and the Titans seem to love their new guy

Why that be of any importance? =D

Seriously, Lendale is not my idea of Texan.