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drewmar74
06-27-2008, 01:47 PM
Could CB competition be on the horizon in Houston?


Keep an eye on the development of rookie CB Antwaun Molden throughout the summer. Molden, a third-round pick from Eastern Kentucky, is likely to be a backup, with ex-Cowboys CB Jacques Reeves settling in as the starter opposite of second-year pro Fred Bennett. However, we're hearing it will not be a surprise if Molden eventually pushes Reeves, and perhaps sooner than later. Molden has played well in his early workouts with the club, and Bennett's ascension to the starting lineup and impressive development as a rookie is a reflection of the Texans' ability to develop young cornerbacks. Reeves started 13 games for Dallas last season but was picked on at times.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/default.htm?mode=afcsouth

Encouraging, I suppose.

NBT
06-27-2008, 03:18 PM
IF Molden proves to be as good as we are hoping, and Bennet continues his improvement from a year ago, Reeves fits into coach Hokes system, and Dunta comes back from his injury, (all Big IFs right now), we could have one of the best CB secondaries in the league. And if the safeties work out well for coach Rhoades like we hope, we are going to have a helluva kickass defense this year. Bring it on!

mexican_texan
06-29-2008, 01:58 AM
A lot of publications have deemed Molden our best pickup this offseason, though usually not in a good fashion. Something along the lines of..."The Texans haven't done much to improve outside of acquiring Molden."

For the record, I'm willing to bet that Molden will play better than Bennet after Week 8.

ATXtexanfan
06-29-2008, 02:40 AM
could molden be worse than faggins? put him out there in nickel situations. please

Hook'er
06-29-2008, 07:39 AM
I really don't think so!

BattleRedToro
06-29-2008, 09:37 AM
IF Molden proves to be as good as we are hoping, and Bennet continues his improvement from a year ago, Reeves fits into coach Hokes system, and Dunta comes back from his injury, (all Big IFs right now), we could have one of the best CB secondaries in the league. And if the safeties work out well for coach Rhoades like we hope, we are going to have a helluva kickass defense this year. Bring it on!

I don't know about the Texans' secondary being one of the best in the league, but I'll be happy as long as they are no longer one of the worst, considering that they once were.

False Start
06-29-2008, 12:13 PM
I don't know about the Texans' secondary being one of the best in the league, but I'll be happy as long as they are no longer one of the worst, considering that they once were.

Amen to that . I'm getting tired of our secondary getting smoked .

b0ng
06-29-2008, 04:43 PM
For the record, I'm willing to bet that Molden will play better than Bennet after Week 8.

If that happened, and the defense still sucked, I'd want Richard Smith fired. Bennett could easily develop into a great CB if he improves as much from year 1 to 2, as he did as a rookie. I thought with a little experience he would be pushing Dunta as best CB on the team.

barrett
06-29-2008, 05:41 PM
was thinking the same thing. he made great leaps during the season.

on the other hand, molden looked physically freakish during what video of him i could see during OTA's

checo446
07-02-2008, 10:43 AM
IF Molden proves to be as good as we are hoping, and Bennet continues his improvement from a year ago, Reeves fits into coach Hokes system, and Dunta comes back from his injury, (all Big IFs right now), we could have one of the best CB secondaries in the league. And if the safeties work out well for coach Rhoades like we hope, we are going to have a helluva kickass defense this year. Bring it on!

If all these guys work out, I would hope the Texans would move Dunta to Free Safety and move Demps over to the strong safety. That would be solid if Dunta heals up properly...:kingkong:

chicagotexan2
07-02-2008, 10:51 AM
For the record, I'm willing to bet that Molden will play better than Bennet after Week 8.

that is a bold statement. I hope you are right. I like Fred and I think he's a solip CB and if Molden is better then that would be sweet.

Lucky
07-02-2008, 10:55 AM
For the record, I'm willing to bet that Molden will play better than Bennet after Week 8.
What makes you say that?

PMSTRIKER
07-02-2008, 11:25 AM
What makes you say that?

This is what

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfsGgyDNyx8

PMSTRIKER
07-02-2008, 11:37 AM
:scarygirl: :splits: :photos: :spit: :whip: :smiliedance:

HOU-TEX
07-02-2008, 11:42 AM
:splits: :photos: :spit: :whip: :smiliedance:


:hmmm:

threetoedpete
07-02-2008, 09:45 PM
This is what

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfsGgyDNyx8

Rookie psychic is a very fragile thing. One thing to be excited about the upside the numbers represent...quite another painting an "S" on the guy's chest and think you've got Darrell Green in a box. If he is starting the first three games, something has gone terribly wrong. He won't be going against some third caliber division one guy. He'll be banging against the best. It's not going to take him very long come September to realize this isn't Kansas any more toto...and the Ohio Valley Conference is a very long jump into the NFL.

TexansFanatic
07-02-2008, 10:16 PM
Some serious enthusiasm on this thread. I think at the very least the Texans might have one of the best young tandems in the league. Molden and Bennett could wind up being a very special duo.

Carr Bombed
07-02-2008, 10:50 PM
This is what

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfsGgyDNyx8

Fred Bennett has the same ability, actually as of right now he has more.........he's already proven he can play in this league.

To say Antwaun Moldin will be better than Fred Bennett is a bold statement.........Fred Bennett was dominant at times last season, he played like a shut down corner at times. He had me questioning if he was the best corner on the team and that was even before Dunta got hurt.

mexican_texan
07-02-2008, 10:51 PM
What makes you say that?
I really like how Molden is able to move his hips and he's very technically sound for someone from such a small school. Bennet, on the other hand, seemed a bit stiff to me at times. I'm not saying Bennet's bad by any means, I just think Molden has a much higher ceiling.

BornOrange
07-02-2008, 11:36 PM
Bennett was able to contribute as a rookie in part because he had a lot of experience against top competition in college. He started 34 games against teams like Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Clemson. 36 of his 48 college games were in front of crowds bigger than Reliant Stadium will hold. With all that going for him, Bennett didn't play a down at corner until the fifth game and didn't start until the ninth game.

Molden only started 12 games in his college career at Eastern Kentucky, a Division 1AA team. That is at the same level that Sam Houston, SFA, and Texas State play at. He was a backup for 3 years before finally starting his senior year. That is not the typical resume for a rookie who is going to see a lot of playing time. Usually guys who play right away were starters for at least two full seasons in college.

Don't get me wrong. Molden has all the physical tools and if Rick Smith thought he was worth a third round pick then I'm sure he will have a good future with the Texans. But anyone thinking he will make a big contribution this year might be expecting a little too much. Molden will most likely make the team but not be activated on game days for the first part of the season. When he does get activated, he will probably only play on special teams. A problem for Molden is that he will probably be comfortable enough to play corner around the middle of the season, but that is when Dunta Robinson is supposed to come back. So just when Molden might be ready to pass up Fletcher or Faggins on the depth chart, that guy will be getting cut anyway to make room for Robinson on the roster and Molden will find himself as the low man on the totem poll again.

Of course, injuries could speed up the timetable for Molden getting playing time...but I find it hard to believe that a guy who had problems beating out non-NFL caliber guys at Eastern Kentucky as a sophomore and junior will be able to beat out NFL veterans as a rookie.

beerlover
07-02-2008, 11:47 PM
our db's improve automatically with the D-Line kicking butt turning them into playmakers :specnatz:

TexansFanatic
07-03-2008, 12:08 AM
Molden will most likely make the team but not be activated on game days for the first part of the season. When he does get activated, he will probably only play on special teams.

I'd be willing to bet my car that, if he's not injured, Molden will be activated for every single game this year.

There is already talk that he is pushing Jacques Reeves for a starting spot.

Goldensilence
07-03-2008, 12:21 AM
Bennett was able to contribute as a rookie in part because he had a lot of experience against top competition in college. He started 34 games against teams like Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Clemson. 36 of his 48 college games were in front of crowds bigger than Reliant Stadium will hold. With all that going for him, Bennett didn't play a down at corner until the fifth game and didn't start until the ninth game.

Molden only started 12 games in his college career at Eastern Kentucky, a Division 1AA team. That is at the same level that Sam Houston, SFA, and Texas State play at. He was a backup for 3 years before finally starting his senior year. That is not the typical resume for a rookie who is going to see a lot of playing time. Usually guys who play right away were starters for at least two full seasons in college.

Don't get me wrong. Molden has all the physical tools and if Rick Smith thought he was worth a third round pick then I'm sure he will have a good future with the Texans. But anyone thinking he will make a big contribution this year might be expecting a little too much. Molden will most likely make the team but not be activated on game days for the first part of the season. When he does get activated, he will probably only play on special teams. A problem for Molden is that he will probably be comfortable enough to play corner around the middle of the season, but that is when Dunta Robinson is supposed to come back. So just when Molden might be ready to pass up Fletcher or Faggins on the depth chart, that guy will be getting cut anyway to make room for Robinson on the roster and Molden will find himself as the low man on the totem poll again.

Of course, injuries could speed up the timetable for Molden getting playing time...but I find it hard to believe that a guy who had problems beating out non-NFL caliber guys at Eastern Kentucky as a sophomore and junior will be able to beat out NFL veterans as a rookie.

Well put first part for sure. My only thing is you have more optimism then I do about Dunta's injury recovery timetable.

I'd be willing to bet my car that, if he's not injured, Molden will be activated for every single game this year.

There is already talk that he is pushing Jacques Reeves for a starting spot.

There is talk, but until I hear it coming from Kubiak or someone on the defensive staff that he is pushing Reeves for a starting spot, then I'd say the talk has substance to it. Until then hype and conjecture.

Unless injuries occur or Dunta not only makes it back but is in game shape I'm going to say Reeves and Bennett will be our starting Duo. I think Molden will be worked into the Nickel slowly over the course of the year unless he really is lightyears ahead of where a DIV AA rookie CB should be NFL wise.

BornOrange
07-03-2008, 12:42 AM
I'd be willing to bet my car that, if he's not injured, Molden will be activated for every single game this year.

There is already talk that he is pushing Jacques Reeves for a starting spot.
You do know that Bennett wasn't active for every game last year, right?

ChampionTexan
07-03-2008, 01:20 AM
I'd be willing to bet my car that, if he's not injured, Molden will be activated for every single game this year.

There is already talk that he is pushing Jacques Reeves for a starting spot.

My first question is what kind of car do you have?

Even if there is talk of Molden pushing for a starting spot, it's a bit hard for me to pay any attention to that kind of stuff considering were talking about a small school guy whose next time wearing pads at an NFL practice will be his first.

Anyone taken in the top-half of the draft that doesn't look pretty darn studly wearing shorts at Mini-camp and OTA's is probably in for a world of trouble.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see this guy as a really good starting NFL Cornerback down the road, but it's tough for me to start making anything more than modest assumptions about where he will be in his first season.

TexansFanatic
07-04-2008, 01:18 PM
You do know that Bennett wasn't active for every game last year, right?

Didn't know that. Hey, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last. :tiphat:

But this year is a bit different than last. Last year we had a highly rated starting corner on one side (D-Rob). This year, not so much.

TK_Gamer
07-04-2008, 02:48 PM
I'm sure Bennett will be happy to hear of your unparalelled support. As far as Molden goes, I think the closer he is to replacing Faggins in the lineup the better it will be for the Texans. Unfortunately all the early pre camp hype and chatter will fall by the wayside once the pads goes on and we get a better look at what we got for our 3rd round pick. The bar will be raised exponentially for all of our roookies compared to what they faced at the college level. I think Physically he has the skills, but the mental toughness and willingness to work hard at learning the defense will determine what potential alot of our young guys have this year. Overall I think I like the pool of talent we have on our team this year. We just seem to improve each year and it's gonna be very exciting! Molden, Adibi, Okam, Brown, Moffit , Barber, and Slaton all look very promissing. My hats off to Rick Smith once again. I really can't wait.

NBT
07-07-2008, 07:47 PM
A lot of publications have deemed Molden our best pickup this offseason, though usually not in a good fashion. Something along the lines of..."The Texans haven't done much to improve outside of acquiring Molden."

For the record, I'm willing to bet that Molden will play better than Bennet after Week 8.

Yeah, and they said that a couple of years ago after we took Mario #1. We are having a tough time getting credibility because of the terrible Drafts we had in 2003 & 2004 (Discounting AJ, of course).

I don't want Molden to play better than Bennet has, I just want both of them to turn out to be shut down corners for years to come.

Overalls
07-08-2008, 01:04 PM
Somebody has to play the nickel and the dime. I don't care who it is as long as it is better than it was last season. Every DB will give up the big play every now and again. Just like Dunta did against the Titans last season. I just don't want every team be able to switch to a passing game and light us up because they can't run on our frount four. Their is no reason for a team, like Buffalo to light us up for two 84 yard TDs. Our D-line should be better this season. Thus giving our DBs a shorter amount of time to have to hold their man. I stand by my weakest link theory. Even if the last man on the team is better than last years last man, we are better. If we can improve the weak link at several positions, the team will improve. With our history of being in the top five in injuries, depth is a key to our success. We have better depth than we have ever had before.

TexansSeminole
07-08-2008, 07:22 PM
I think Molden can take Faggins' spot as nickelback by the end of the season and that sounds good to me. I'm tired of watching Faggins get beat. I like the chances of him becoming a starter one day.