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b0ng
06-21-2008, 11:15 AM
It's under the "Fantasy" section, but it's a good positive peice on AJ3000.

Andre knows of giant expectations in '08 (http://fantasynews.sportsline.com/fantasyfootball/story/10868855)

The news hit Texans fans and Fantasy owners hard when in mid-May, Houston head coach Gary Kubiak announced that Andre Johnson's left knee needed arthroscopic surgery. The star wide receiver wasn't comfortable with how his knee was feeling during a minicamp session and the club opted to clean it out.

At 6-foot-3 and over 220 pounds, Johnson is the proverbial prototype NFL wide receiver. He's got incredible hands. He has great speed for a guy his size. He can jump with the best of them. He can play against press coverage just as well as zone schemes. And there isn't a down and distance that Johnson isn't qualified to be on the field for.



I liked it, but I have an AJ jersey.

TheRealJoker
06-21-2008, 11:33 AM
AJ is one of the few complete WRs in the game. Best comparison I have seen to him was when he was coming out in the draft I read someone call him "A young TO without the mouth."

He was a pro bowl WR with Carr at QB, Steve Smith disappeared with Carr under center. That tells you all you need to know about Andre Johnson and why we're lucky to have a player of his caliber. He's gonna be the 1st Texan in the HOF mark that down!!!

b0ng
06-21-2008, 11:52 AM
I think I like AJ's demeanor on and off the field. No mouth and all business. And he has a charity and never really gets into trouble. I think if everything goes decently at the QB position he will make whoever is throwing the ball look great if he's healthy for all 16 games. He could easily account for 1200 yards if he plays a whole season. Add that to anybody's yardage as a QB and they will look good I'm sure.

TheRealJoker
06-21-2008, 11:56 AM
He's the consummate professional, which is kind of ironic seeing as he comes from the U.

b0ng
06-21-2008, 11:59 AM
I guess the only thing that can be said now is like once every few years Charlie Casserly is a genius with his first round pick.

But only every once in awhile.

TheRealJoker
06-21-2008, 12:02 PM
Wasn't AJ drafted the same year that our two 2nd round picks were used on Tony Hollings and Bennie Joppru?

There, balance has been restored....

NBT
06-21-2008, 12:36 PM
Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while!

Vinny
06-21-2008, 12:43 PM
Wasn't AJ drafted the same year that our two 2nd round picks were used on Tony Hollings and Bennie Joppru?

There, balance has been restored....
I just remain thankful that the Lions picked Charles Rogers (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR2006090200886.html) one pick before us.

GuerillaBlack
06-21-2008, 01:01 PM
If you guys want AJ on your fantasy team, don't join one with Texans fans. :)

And Vinny, just the thought of AJ not being on this team, and the Lions picking him instead gives me nightmares.

Second Honeymoon
06-21-2008, 02:11 PM
AJ is one of the few complete WRs in the game. Best comparison I have seen to him was when he was coming out in the draft I read someone call him "A young TO without the mouth."

He was a pro bowl WR with Carr at QB, Steve Smith disappeared with Carr under center. That tells you all you need to know about Andre Johnson and why we're lucky to have a player of his caliber. He's gonna be the 1st Texan in the HOF mark that down!!!

AJ aint getting a sniff of the HOF until we have playoff success and probably will have to play in, if not win, a Super Bowl. I love AJ but he aint even close to the HOF.

ObsiWan
06-21-2008, 02:12 PM
AJ is one of the few complete WRs in the game. Best comparison I have seen to him was when he was coming out in the draft I read someone call him "A young TO without the mouth."

He was a pro bowl WR with Carr at QB, Steve Smith disappeared with Carr under center. That tells you all you need to know about Andre Johnson and why we're lucky to have a player of his caliber. He's gonna be the 1st Texan in the HOF mark that down!!!

that's a disservice to AJ. He has waaay better hands than Owens.

ObsiWan
06-21-2008, 02:14 PM
If you guys want AJ on your fantasy team, don't join one with Texans fans. :)

And Vinny, just the thought of AJ not being on this team, and the Lions picking him instead gives me nightmares.

He's gonna be my first pick. L.T. be damned.

TK_Gamer
06-21-2008, 02:21 PM
I place Owens closer to Steve Smith than to AJ. Owens uses his athleticism to gain seperation but AJ is the complete Package and I agree AJ has better hands than Owens.

edo783
06-21-2008, 02:25 PM
I just remain thankful that the Lions picked Charles Rogers (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR2006090200886.html) one pick before us.

Ain't that the truth. If they had passed on Rogers we probably would have taken him, even if AJ was still there. They were thought to be close in value, but IIRC Rogers was pretty much given as the better of the two. Sort of like the Manning vs Leaf arguments and fortunatly....we got a Manning and not a Leaf.

b0ng
06-21-2008, 02:29 PM
I place Owens closer to Steve Smith than to AJ. Owens uses his athleticism to gain seperation but AJ is the complete Package and I agree AJ has better hands than Owens.

I think they called AJ a "T.O." without the mouth because both players are big, tall and fast.

Steve Smith is a short blazing phenomenon who's got freat hands, and a little bit of a mouth.

Honestly, I think all 3 have different enough abilities that you don't have to say one is the other and all that. They are all 3 pretty special.

Thorn
06-21-2008, 02:30 PM
In a different situation, who's to say Rogers wouldn't have worked out for us? Not that I'd change things, given what has happened AJ is gold for us and Rogers was a bust. The football gods have been good to us as far as this situation is concerned.

TheRealJoker
06-21-2008, 03:25 PM
AJ aint getting a sniff of the HOF until we have playoff success and probably will have to play in, if not win, a Super Bowl. I love AJ but he aint even close to the HOF.

Of course he's not close to the HOF, its a PROJECTION for an under 30 player on our team to be the first HOF inductee in franchise history.

TheRealJoker
06-21-2008, 03:26 PM
I just remain thankful that the Lions picked Charles Rogers (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR2006090200886.html) one pick before us.

That was the best pick of the draft as far as im concerned :smiliedance:

Double Barrel
06-21-2008, 03:30 PM
He's gonna be the 1st Texan in the HOF mark that down!!!

Booya! I like that kind of talk.

But onward and upward to our first winning season and many more before AJ even thinks of retiring. He needs to cement his status as an elite WR in winning playoff games.

TheRealJoker
06-21-2008, 03:31 PM
Booya! I like that kind of talk.

But onward and upward to our first winning season and many more before AJ even thinks of retiring. He needs to cement his status as an elite WR in winning playoff games.

That he will...that he will :fans:

Maddict5
06-21-2008, 03:33 PM
iirc charles rogers tore it up in his first nfl game before the injury and... other issues. in other circumstances he could've been a star too

ObsiWan
06-21-2008, 03:38 PM
FoxSports' Adam Schein says A.J. is "the best WR in the NFL, better than Moss, better than Owen..."

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&brand=foxsports&vid=6d93db87-3c58-4016-8503-43a1c39632f6&playlist=&editor=&from=FOXSPORTS&fg=/nfl/team&rf=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team?statsId=34

Its a link to a FoxSports vid about the AFC South being the toughest division in the NFL so you have to listen to the stuff about the other teams first....

possum
06-21-2008, 06:59 PM
I think they called AJ a "T.O." without the mouth because both players are big, tall and fast.

that's a disservice to AJ. He has waaay better hands than Owens.

Thats part of it. It also had to do with the fact that a young (the part b0ng left out) T.O. had questionalble hands as did AJ coming out of college. It was a very accurate comparison at the time.

Vinny
06-21-2008, 09:04 PM
iirc charles rogers tore it up in his first nfl game before the injury and... other issues. in other circumstances he could've been a star tooyeah, if he wasn't a dopehead and a moron....other than that he was aces. idonno:

Goldensilence
06-22-2008, 12:46 AM
AJ aint getting a sniff of the HOF until we have playoff success and probably will have to play in, if not win, a Super Bowl. I love AJ but he aint even close to the HOF.

It's not just success in the playoffs he's going to have to string together more 1,000 plus seasons double digits in TDs.

Good news is he starts both streaks next year I am willing to bet. :D

Trail.Blazr
06-22-2008, 04:53 PM
AJ aint getting a sniff of the HOF until we have playoff success and probably will have to play in, if not win, a Super Bowl. I love AJ but he aint even close to the HOF.

At this stage in his career I think he is. But as someone already eluded to, it's a projection. If I were to draw comparisons of him demeanor wise, it would be another quiet, humble, all buisness type of HOF player... Barry Sanders. Now, I agree with the sentiment of the AJ not being there yet, as shortened carrears have cost great talent in the past from HOF consideration, but I do disagree with the playoff success and superbowl requirements... Barry is a shining example of not needing either.

painekiller
06-23-2008, 02:25 AM
AJ has never had double digit TDs and that is the reason he is not in the top group of fantasy WR. I would blame most of that on Carr knowing what we know now.

And last season he had 8 TDs in only 9 games, that is moving him into the top tier if he does it for an entire season.

FYI Joppru was the 2nd rounder and Hollings also joined the team in 2003, but Hollings 2nd round pick was from the 2004 draft.

PHAROAH
06-23-2008, 02:38 AM
Physically probably the best wr in the NFL along with Terrell Owens, Randy Moss & Braylon Edwards. I would Take Andre Johnson any day of the week over those 3 guys.
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ObsiWan
06-23-2008, 05:01 AM
Don't forget Bolden and Fitzgerald out in AZ. They're pretty big and solid WRs too. Now whether Fitzgerald is truly worth $40 million is another thing.