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Tailgate
06-09-2008, 03:28 PM
EDIT: I just noticed the AFC S. rankings going on in the NFL section here. This thread can be deleted and wait on the WR portion to come up later. My bad yo!

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I know, everyone usually immediately thinks the Colts. But its definitely debatable when breaking it down imo. Especially considering who is throwing those guys the ball.


#1 WR
Wayne had 104 recepts, 1500 yds, 14.5 avg, and 10 tds in 16 games last year. Along with having the luxury of Manning throwing him the ball.

Andre Johnson had 60 recepts, 850 yds, 14.2 avg, and 8 tds in 7 LESS GAMES. AJ's injuries hopefully wont be a concern, if it is... then this thread is worthless. But I really dont think its an issue, and he will have a big year this year.

Edge: Texans (if AJ is healthy)


#2 WR
I dont see Harrison getting back to his old self after his bad injuries last year, off season distractions, and he does turns 36 this August. So for now, Gonzales in the main #2.

Gonzales stats from his rookie year are 37 recepts, 15.6, 576 yds, and 3 tds. He did miss some playing time last year so his numbers are a bit lower than what they should be.

Walters had solid numbers last year at 65 recepts, 12.5 avg, 800 yds, and 4tds. These should hopefully go up for Kevin quite a bit this year as Kubiak has already stated publicly he regretted not using Walter near as much as he should have and will change that this coming season.

Edge: Colts (merely on the upside for Gonzales)


#3,4, and beyond
Colts still have Harrison... but as stated before, can he recover from or avoid more injuries/age/distractions? The next WR up on the stat list for Indy is Devin Aromashodu who only had 7 receptions last year.

Andre Davis looked fantastic filling in when AJ went down last year. He had a freakish almost 18 yards per catch and was huge in the return game. I think we all know the talent Jacoby Jones possesses, and its more than a 4th WR type talent. Bonus in punt returns as well. Can he step it up this year like he did early last year? I think its only a matter of time. Throw in David Anderson for depth and I think we edge out here.

Edge: Texans



So now as it stands... the Texans are looking very solid comparidly. If Harrison comes back and lights it up or if AJ goes down again for significant time... then its all Colts in this department.

b0ng
06-09-2008, 03:37 PM
Thanks for the shout out~!

eriadoc
06-09-2008, 04:02 PM
The Texans have the potential to be the best WR corps in the AFC South, and maybe top 2 or 3 in the AFC. It hasn't developed yet, though, so until proven otherwise, I'm saying the Colts have the best WR corps. Part of that is they have the best guy throwing them the ball.

The Jags have the tallest WRs in the AFC South, but even with the addition of Jerry Porter, I just don't see them putting up monster numbers, nor do I see them winning games for the Jags. That job belongs to their running game and defense, which does a fine job already.

The Titans won't have a good WR corps until they get a good QB.

Kubiak is pretty good at getting the most offense possible from his guys, so with a healthy year from AJ and Schaub, I do think they should ascend to that level. It hasn't happened yet, though.

V3rm0nt3r
06-09-2008, 04:53 PM
The Titans won't have a good WR corps until they get a good QB.

Dude it doesn't matter who is calling signals the Titans won't have a good passing game until they start drafting smarter and flat out being less retarted, if your big additions to a spot of need include Mike Williams and Justin McCariens and then use a 1st round pick on luxury... I want what you are on man.

Still good news for the TEXANS!!!!!:fans:

hollywood_texan
06-09-2008, 05:02 PM
The QB position is more important to me than WR positions.

An exceptional QB can do a lot more with average WRs than exceptional WRs and an average QB.

It's nice to have a strong receiver core, but that potential will not be recognized unless the QB capitalizes on it.

Besides, having the best WRs in the league seems to be more of a problem than a benefit. However, that is where AJ really sets himself out from the pack. But, again, you need the QB play capitalize on AJ's talent. History speaks for that.

QB, QB, QB...

NBT
06-09-2008, 05:02 PM
The Titans and Jags aren't about outstanding WRs, they are about smashmouth football with darn good RBs in depth. We need to get better running the ball and better defending against the run to ever jump over those two. Indly has an aging QB, but stll arguably the best in Peyton Manning. So whoever the Colts use at WR, they will be near the top in receiving. The Colts are the hardest team in our division to defend against because they can both run and pass with effectiveness.

hollywood_texan
06-09-2008, 05:05 PM
The Titans and Jags aren't about outstanding WRs, they are about smashmouth football with darn good RBs in depth. We need to get better running the ball and better defending against the run to ever jump over those two. Indly has an aging QB, but stll arguably the best in Peyton Manning. So whoever the Colts use at WR, they will be near the top in receiving. The Colts are the hardest team in our division to defend against because they can both run and pass with effectiveness.

Here, here...

Very well said!

Goldensilence
06-09-2008, 05:05 PM
Colts still have the edge overall IMO. Wayne and Harrison are still elite. The offseason distractions will probably end up being just that for Marvin.

I'm excited as the next guy about this team and the way our WR corps especially looks like it is developing but I'm keeping realistic about it this coming year. They'll be good but we need all parts healthy this year.

PHAROAH
06-09-2008, 10:45 PM
Watch out for jacoby Jones he is going to be a star.

Tailgate
06-10-2008, 12:15 AM
Thanks for the shout out~!

Word. Just think of this thread as a warm up discussion prior to the poll. :thisbig:

76Texan
06-10-2008, 04:56 PM
The QB position is more important to me than WR positions.

An exceptional QB can do a lot more with average WRs than exceptional WRs and an average QB.

It's nice to have a strong receiver core, but that potential will not be recognized unless the QB capitalizes on it.

Besides, having the best WRs in the league seems to be more of a problem than a benefit. However, that is where AJ really sets himself out from the pack. But, again, you need the QB play capitalize on AJ's talent. History speaks for that.

QB, QB, QB...Terry Bradshaw wasn't so hot before Swann and John Stalworth joined the Steelers.
Not to mention the running game with Franco Harris and the Steel Curtain defense that provided Bradshaw with more chances on offense.

badboy
06-11-2008, 01:49 PM
Our new running game should make our WRs even more dangerous.

awtysst
06-11-2008, 02:32 PM
The Titans and Jags aren't about outstanding WRs, they are about smashmouth football with darn good RBs in depth. We need to get better running the ball and better defending against the run to ever jump over those two. Indly has an aging QB, but stll arguably the best in Peyton Manning. So whoever the Colts use at WR, they will be near the top in receiving. The Colts are the hardest team in our division to defend against because they can both run and pass with effectiveness.

Thats true but you need to be balanced on offense. If you are a smash mouth running team and your running game gets stuffed you are in trouble. Also if your Defense lets you down and you go down big early, again the smash mouth football scheme does not work. The great teams are balanced. Look at the Colts. Solid Running game with Adai and solid receivers in Harrison and Wayne. Look at the Pats. Solid running game with Maroney and solid receivers led by Moss. THAT is how one becomes a solid team. To be a champion you need to have a solid D to go with that balanced Offense. Mark my words, the Titans and Jags will NEVER be a serious contender until they get some solid wrs.

BigBull17
06-12-2008, 12:36 PM
Colts still have the edge overall IMO. Wayne and Harrison are still elite. The offseason distractions will probably end up being just that for Marvin.

I'm excited as the next guy about this team and the way our WR corps especially looks like it is developing but I'm keeping realistic about it this coming year. They'll be good but we need all parts healthy this year.

There is no telling how Harrison will do next year. I know id take our WR courps over theirs. Unless Harrison finds the fountain of youth, we have a slight edge. if hes back, they are a little better than us. Now, QB...

Goldensilence
06-12-2008, 02:52 PM
There is no telling how Harrison will do next year. I know id take our WR courps over theirs. Unless Harrison finds the fountain of youth, we have a slight edge. if hes back, they are a little better than us. Now, QB...

I think our depth in the tail end might give us a slight edge but Harrison will have had the entire offseason to recover and from what I've heard before in the offseason he keeps in great shape. Harrison might be a year older but what kind of makes my stomach turn is Gonzalez getting on the same page as Wayne and Harrison are with Manning. You'll basically end up having a more athletic Stokely.

Clark is a TE in name but the guy is pratically a WR playing TE that causes mismatch nightmares.

Don't get me wrong I really do like our WR corps especially if we get Jones back to where he was prior to his shoulder injury we very well could have elite depth at the position. Funny how a year can really change a spot on our team. If we can get a solid running game going I see echoes of a Broncos team under Kubiak that lead the league in scoring one year.

b0ng
06-13-2008, 05:50 PM
I'm going to do TE's separately so they won't be included here. Only wideouts. I think Wayne and Harrison will be slight favorites over AJ and his merry men. The Jags and the Titans really need work on their receiving corps. I went homerish here. AJ for the win.

Goldensilence
06-13-2008, 06:18 PM
Went with Colts slight edge but If JJ comes along this year...we have a really good WR corps with elite depth.

I have to say I am really excited about the way this offense can look next year. We got solid speed at WRs and if we can get a solid running game with some speed from Slaton we could have something special brewing.

gtexan02
06-13-2008, 07:05 PM
Harrison and Wayne are just too good at what they do. I love AJ, but after that, we have a bunch of role players. Harrison and Wayne are both #1s anywhere else in the league

kiwitexansfan
06-13-2008, 07:59 PM
Colts have better quality, Texans have better depth, Titans and Jags are both cover your eyes awful.

Colts got the nod, although I do ask myself what our guys would do with P. Manning throwing to them.

edo783
06-13-2008, 09:21 PM
IMO, it's almost a coin toss between us and the Colts. I did the homer thing and picked us, but it was because I think Harrison will not be the factor he has been in the past.

GuerillaBlack
06-13-2008, 09:42 PM
Harrison and Wayne are just too good at what they do. I love AJ, but after that, we have a bunch of role players. Harrison and Wayne are both #1s anywhere else in the league

Not here. :cool:

b0ng
06-14-2008, 09:07 AM
Harrison and Wayne are just too good at what they do. I love AJ, but after that, we have a bunch of role players. Harrison and Wayne are both #1s anywhere else in the league

Honestly, I think that Harrison is probably not a #1 in as many places around the league (He certainly would be in Jacksonville or Tennessee) just because of his age, and injuries last year.

I do think Manning makes his recievers (and O-line) look a hell of a lot better than they really are.

Brando
06-14-2008, 09:13 AM
Colts win another category but the Texans are not that far behind and could over take them this year if "Marv" loses another step or gun.;):fans:

gtexan02
06-14-2008, 09:19 AM
Harrison had 1 down year due to injury. Its not like he's lost it yet

infantrycak
06-14-2008, 09:25 AM
Harrison had 1 down year due to injury. Its not like he's lost it yet

Except that the injury is looking dangerously like a DD/W sudden end of the career after struggling with it for a while type thing. Like our own injuries we just don't know how it will turn out, but there is just as good a chance he is done as there is he is the Harrison of old.

GuerillaBlack
06-14-2008, 09:30 AM
It's a good thing Harrison has a ring.

Lucky
06-14-2008, 10:55 AM
I'm going with the Texans for 3 reasons:

1) I think Harrison's injury concerns are serious and I don't think he gets out of the Philly situation unscathed.
2) Andre Johnson will hopefully play 16 games. He was putting up All Pro numbers when he was on the field in '07.
3) Jacoby Jones gives the Texans the YAC bonus that the Colts lack.

This may still be the Colts division. But everybody is creeping up on them.

Andre Davis = Apostrophe?

b0ng
06-14-2008, 11:27 AM
Andre Davis = Apostrophe?

Yep.

Harrison had 1 down year due to injury. Its not like he's lost it yet

If Harrison was 27 years old, I'd be with you on that, but he's in his mid to late 30's. That's late in your career to be messing around with knee injuries and coming back to being your old All-Pro wide receiver self.

He could totally disprove the theory that he's getting closer to "done" than he is "dominant", but for right now, he's an older still pretty good but not superstar caliber WR.

Lucky
06-14-2008, 11:30 AM
Andre Davis = Apostrophe?

Yep.

Um, why?

Brando
06-14-2008, 11:37 AM
Um, why?

Andre' Davis :)

Lucky
06-14-2008, 11:40 AM
Andre' Davis :)
Oh. It's actually André Davis, with an accent mark above the e.

Brando
06-14-2008, 11:40 AM
Oh. It's actually André Davis, with an accent mark above the e.

I hear ya, I was thinkin that's what he meant.

Lucky
06-14-2008, 11:42 AM
I hear ya, I was thinkin that's what he meant.
Someone stuck Davis with a nickname based on the wrong punctuation mark. That's funny.

b0ng
06-14-2008, 12:15 PM
Someone stuck Davis with a nickname based on the wrong punctuation mark. That's funny.

Don't blame me I get my info from here :P

TEXANRED
06-15-2008, 07:20 PM
I still have to give it to the Colts. AJ is the best receiver in our division but I think that Wayne/Harrision is better than Walter, and Gonzales is light years ahead of Jones.

Hopefully Jones proves me wrong this year and Walter kicks it in the but and shows some speed.

Insideop
06-16-2008, 10:50 AM
I went with the Colts, but I don't think the Texans are that far behind. And, if Harrison doesn't come back from his injury like he was before, I would go with the Texans. JMHO!

BigBull17
06-16-2008, 11:51 AM
I think our depth in the tail end might give us a slight edge but Harrison will have had the entire offseason to recover and from what I've heard before in the offseason he keeps in great shape. Harrison might be a year older but what kind of makes my stomach turn is Gonzalez getting on the same page as Wayne and Harrison are with Manning. You'll basically end up having a more athletic Stokely.

Clark is a TE in name but the guy is pratically a WR playing TE that causes mismatch nightmares.

Don't get me wrong I really do like our WR corps especially if we get Jones back to where he was prior to his shoulder injury we very well could have elite depth at the position. Funny how a year can really change a spot on our team. If we can get a solid running game going I see echoes of a Broncos team under Kubiak that lead the league in scoring one year.

The only thing is, eventually years start to catch up. he is an old man. He cant play at the level he has in the past anymore(at least I hope he cant). If you put Clark at WR, then that gives us the edge at TE. Yeah baby. if Gonzales is forced to play the #2, he wont be as good as he can be at the 3. i still give us a slight edge over them, and way better than anything else the division has. lets say it as 1a and 1b.

Dan B.
06-16-2008, 11:55 AM
Can we vote on the worst corps? I think it will be a dogfight between JAX and TEN. I've seen college teams with better wideouts.

BigBull17
06-16-2008, 11:58 AM
Can we vote on the worst corps? I think it will be a dogfight between JAX and TEN. I've seen college teams with better wideouts.

They are like us and Indy, but on the other side. 1a and 1b, meets 32y and 32z. Awful.

Lucky
06-16-2008, 12:07 PM
I've seen college teams with better wideouts.
Yep. The '06 LSU Tigers had Bowe, Buster Davis, & Doucet. The '05 Buckeyes had Holmes, Ginn, & Gonzalez. The Y2K Oregon State Beavers had future Bengal teammates Chad Johnson and TJ Housyourmama. Then, there are several Miami teams with great wideouts. I'm sure there are more.

Carr Bombed
06-16-2008, 12:37 PM
Can we vote on the worst corps? I think it will be a dogfight between JAX and TEN. I've seen college teams with better wideouts.

They are like us and Indy, but on the other side. 1a and 1b, meets 32y and 32z. Awful.

While Jacksonville is behind Indy and Houston in WR rankings, they aren't near as bad as some of y'all are making them out to be.

Jerry Porter can play and Reggie Williams is a big physical receiver that's a threat around the endzone.........he tied for the lead in TD receptions amongst AFC South receivers and made huge strides in his game last season.

With Northcut they also have veteran depth and with prospects like Mike Walker they have talented guys who can pay dividends in the future. To say Jacksonville's receivers are in the same ballpark as Tenn's is just being uneducated about the situation.

Jacksonville's receiving core is just as deep as any other team in this division, the only thing they lack is the prototypical true #1 threat, but with the great running game that they possess, I'm not really sure they even need one.

Jerry Porter
Reggie Williams
Dennis Northcut
Mike Walker
Troy Williamson/Matt Jones (whichever one makes the team)

^ that's not a bad depth chart to have and is a hellava lot better than Tenn. The Colts and Texans are better, because of Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson, but the gap between the top 2 teams in this division and Jacksonville isn't as large as some of y'all are making it seem.