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JayCee
06-06-2008, 06:11 PM
(on DT Amobi Okoye maturing) Well, I want to knock on wood, but in all honesty, this camp, I think hes the most improved player. Hes a pretty dang good player to begin with but what you saw take place here over the course of the last three weeks, you saw a guy go from still having some of his rookie habits, they went away in one week and we havent noticed them in the last two. Thats a good thing. It tells me hes growing up. Hes becoming better. Hes becoming a pro. And if that happens, were going to be a better football team. Ive been very impressed with the player hes become through OTAs.

(on if he expects the same improvement as DE Mario Williams made last season) Well, hopefully we see the same thing. I dont think its fair to compare players. Theyre different. But the thing that is very comparable right away is the maturity, I guess I should say, and how hes handling himself right now. Theres not a lot of distractions going on. Hes just playing ball and hes got his mind in the right place, and I think that those are good things.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4362

ChampionTexan
06-06-2008, 06:46 PM
Good to hear, and Kubiak's got a history of not BS'ing about this stuff.

FWIW (which admittedly is very little), the Pro Football Weekly 2008 Preview rated the top 30-40 players for each position, and to my surprise, Amobi was the #14 rated DT in the NFL. I say surprised because of the way he hit the wall midway thru the season last year. PFW acknowledged he slowed down, but basically said that he had the talent to put up double-digit sacks.

The Preview's a hard-copy, so I can't link (would be a pay-site anyway).

Two D-Linemen with 10+ sacks would be incredible - especially with one of them being on the interior.

TexansFanatic
06-06-2008, 06:56 PM
Two D-Linemen with 10+ sacks would be incredible - especially with one of them being on the interior.

And would make the whole team better. Would lead to more picks in the secondary.

b0ng
06-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Good to hear, and Kubiak's got a history of not BS'ing about this stuff.

FWIW (which admittedly is very little), the Pro Football Weekly 2008 Preview rated the top 30-40 players for each position, and to my surprise, Amobi was the #14 rated DT in the NFL. I say surprised because of the way he hit the wall midway thru the season last year. PFW acknowledged he slowed down, but basically said that he had the talent to put up double-digit sacks.

The Preview's a hard-copy, so I can't link (would be a pay-site anyway).

Two D-Linemen with 10+ sacks would be incredible - especially with one of them being on the interior.

If Okoye got 10+ sacks he would be an all-pro DT I think. That number would be wayy too gaudy not to pass up.

Honestly, if Okoye got 7+ sacks this year, that would be the other pass rusher we needed. I wonder how our run defense would look with Amobi doing pass rushing from the DT position.

DocBar
06-06-2008, 08:22 PM
Double digit sacks is incredible for interior linemen. I agree that if he gets 7 or so he's had a great year. I hear AW is 100% and looking to make a big splash in the sack total this year. That would be great to see also.

YoungTexanFan
06-06-2008, 08:28 PM
Double digit sacks is incredible for interior linemen. I agree that if he gets 7 or so he's had a great year. I hear AW is 100% and looking to make a big splash in the sack total this year. That would be great to see also.

His career high is 5. Define "big splash" for me please.

Line_Producer
06-06-2008, 09:11 PM
His career high is 5. Define "big splash" for me please.

And best line of the day goes to *rips envelope* Young Texans Fan!

Brandon420tx
06-06-2008, 09:25 PM
Weaver Cannon Ball!?

Is it, A, a jump into the deep end of the pool, or B, Anthony's new secret special move?

mexican_texan
06-06-2008, 09:31 PM
His career high is 5. Define "big splash" for me please.
6 sacks.

b0ng
06-06-2008, 10:25 PM
His career high is 5. Define "big splash" for me please.

I'll go ahead and say more than 5. Cause a player could never get more sacks than his already highest recorded sack total.

76Texan
06-07-2008, 01:07 AM
D-line was the best unit on defense last year.
Each individual player had a different role.

Just like the WR corp.

It is (to me) a mistake to try to find fault in the wrong place.

Second Honeymoon
06-07-2008, 02:06 AM
i love hearing this from the Texans camp. If he and Okam could both develop into top DT, we could be set for a decade at DT...find a friend to play opposite Mario at DE and things could get really interesting...

Dread-Head
06-07-2008, 09:26 AM
Yeah, yeah. Never mind that shiznit. I want to see Vince "#6 on your Wonderlic" Young and that running back from Indianapolis (who grew up here) get flattened repeatedly. This is the year to resurect the "House of Pain". Teams visiting the Texans this year should feel like convicts being thrown to the gladiators on the floor on the Roman Colluseum. The 08-09 season should mark the beginning of the Texan era.

b0ng
06-07-2008, 09:27 AM
i love hearing this from the Texans camp. If he and Okam could both develop into top DT, we could be set for a decade at DT...find a friend to play opposite Mario at DE and things could get really interesting...

If Okam develops how the staff says he is developing, and Amobi is steadily improving as already quoted, I think that would be more than enough for Mario to break free and wreak havoc.

Also, wouldn't Okam be playing an NT type position as well? Wouldn't he just replace Travis Johnson and maybe TJ could backup Okoye?

EDIT: I hope that Okam develops into a 3-down NT, but for his rookie season, I want him to just be a big stump that can't be moved on running plays. Nothing too fancy.

Thorn
06-07-2008, 01:24 PM
This is the year to resurect the "House of Pain".


yeah buddy! :fans:

V3rm0nt3r
06-07-2008, 02:48 PM
Yeah, yeah. Never mind that shiznit. I want to see Vince "#6 on your Wonderlic" Young and that running back from Indianapolis (who grew up here) get flattened repeatedly. This is the year to resurect the "House of Pain". Teams visiting the Texans this year should feel like convicts being thrown to the gladiators on the floor on the Roman Colluseum. The 08-09 season should mark the beginning of the Texan era.

Replace those "should's" with "wills" and I'm right there with you.

Ole Miss Texan
06-09-2008, 11:28 AM
Honestly, if Okoye got 7+ sacks this year, that would be the other pass rusher we needed. I wonder how our run defense would look with Amobi doing pass rushing from the DT position.

Good point. Also, with Amobi rushing from the middle, it causes the QB to move left or right, more than likely having to throw off the run. I think QB's are more likely to make a mistake when forced in this position. Not to mention their eyes are more likely to not look downfield and start the scrambling process. That's where the sacks for the DE's really come from. I know mario got a lot last year because of this- perfect team play.

Vinny
06-09-2008, 11:31 AM
sacks are nice to get from the inside but getting great push, forcing QB's out of the pocket and stopping the run are the most important aspects for the DT's....glad to hear he is improving.

Nawzer
06-09-2008, 11:39 AM
We all know that the players make the biggest improvement from year one to year two. So, I'm glad to hear that Okoye is progressing well. Hopefully Okoye will have the kind of impact that Mario did last year.

SOLIS
06-09-2008, 02:30 PM
sacks are nice to get from the inside but getting great push, forcing QB's out of the pocket and stopping the run are the most important aspects for the DT's....glad to hear he is improving.

Right on Vin. The way I see it, with Amobi's current build and ability, he's best suited for wreaking havok at the line and forcing the QB out of the pocket and into a mistake. That's why it is imperative that we get contributions from the DE positions. I love me some Mario, and I think that he is God's gift to the position - but this year he needs to show that consistancy he had late in the season, throughout the year. The other DE, be it Weaver or Bulman or whoever, needs to be able to take advantage of his linemates' play to stuff the run or get after the QB. The more experience the front seven has playing together, the better the chemistry, the better the results.

GuerillaBlack
06-09-2008, 03:21 PM
Damn man, our D-Line is going to be so raw this year.

Yeah, yeah. Never mind that shiznit. I want to see Vince "#6 on your Wonderlic" Young and that running back from Indianapolis (who grew up here) get flattened repeatedly. This is the year to resurect the "House of Pain". Teams visiting the Texans this year should feel like convicts being thrown to the gladiators on the floor on the Roman Colluseum. The 08-09 season should mark the beginning of the Texan era.

Rep the man for this reference.

gafftop
10-21-2011, 09:16 PM
Kubiak BS

VTexan
10-22-2011, 12:40 AM
http://knowyourmeme.com/system/icons/2085/original/Kornheiser_Why.JPG?1267079689

TheMatrix31
10-22-2011, 04:35 AM
lol @ these dumb ass bumps

NitroGSXR
10-22-2011, 05:37 AM
lol @ these dumb ass bumps

All started by a spammer to boot!

HJam72
10-22-2011, 11:47 AM
This thread is really making me want to drag up something about HWSNBN being the most physically gifted QB, blah, blah, blah from 2004. :clown:

Yes, I need help. :mcnugget:

Carr Bombed
10-22-2011, 03:02 PM
This thread is really making me want to drag up something about HWSNBN being the most physically gifted QB, blah, blah, blah from 2004. :clown:

Yes, I need help. :mcnugget:

To be completely honest though...David Carr WAS blessed with great athleticism at that position. He was one of the most physically gifted QBs in the league. The guy had plus mobility for the position and had a rocket arm, he had skills. Problem though...the brain is not a muscle and while the heart is, his was way underdeveloped. What a complete waste of talent that guy was.

Rey
10-22-2011, 03:51 PM
Well, kubiak spoke favorably about him so I guess we should give it more time.

Honoring Earl 34
10-22-2011, 04:23 PM
Well, kubiak spoke favorably about him so I guess we should give it more time.

The dude had one good year as a 5th year senior and had bad mechanics to boot . He stunk up the senior bowl game and played 3 series but it took 02 , 03 , 04 , 05 , and 06 for us to figure out he can't play . That's a bargain compared to where we're at now .

Ryan
10-22-2011, 08:26 PM
The dude had one good year as a 5th year senior and had bad mechanics to boot . He stunk up the senior bowl game and played 3 series but it took 02 , 03 , 04 , 05 , and 06 for us to figure out he can't play . That's a bargain compared to where we're at now .


I still wonder where we'd be at as a franchise if we drafted Julius Peppers and let Tony Banks start a year or two until we found a permanent solution.

bo orlando
10-22-2011, 09:14 PM
I still wonder where we'd be at as a franchise if we drafted Julius Peppers and let Tony Banks start a year or two until we found a permanent solution.

we'd still be shitty