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Silver Oak
05-24-2008, 08:49 AM
VINCE CONSIDERED RETIREMENT?
Posted by Mike Florio on May 23, 2008, 7:09 p.m. EDT
Wow, that Madden curse thing really is strong. Last year, it almost persuaded the guy featured on the cover of the game to retire.

Titans quarterback Vince Young tells Thomas George of NFL.com that Young considered quitting football after his rookie season.

“I really thought long and hard about it,” Young said. “There was so much going on with my family. It was crazy being an NFL quarterback. It wasn’t fun anymore. All of the fun was out of it. All of the excitement was gone. All I was doing was worrying about things. and throwing interceptions
“My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God’s calling for me. all that, and I got a really stupid tattoo of my own name on my back Play football. Be a role model.”

Drink tequila from the bottle in public. Take off your shirt. Drink some more tequila.

So what has changed in a year? “Now I can handle this kind of stuff without it making me want to give up football,” Young said. “I learned that 24/7 I’m representing the Titans and, especially, the kids all over I am trying to influence. I look at my man Michael Vick. I learned from that. I look at Pacman. I learned from that. I look at some troubles recently for rappers T.I. and Lil Wayne, guys I listen to. I learned from them. I’ve learned from my life. Vick, PacMan, and various rappers as sounding boards? Wow.
“You can get too much going on where you can’t control it anymore. No matter how much money you get, no matter how much comes your way, you have to control yourself. I know it’s up to me. I can’t get too big for my britches.” too late Captain Ego

Sure you can. All you have to do is take them off.

And then drink some more tequila.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/23/vince-considered-retirement/

WWJD
05-24-2008, 09:56 AM
At least he's honest. Sometimes people that you think have it all really aren't happy.

gary
05-24-2008, 10:14 AM
Nice to see him not hold back and be honest about it.

alphajoker
05-24-2008, 11:06 AM
Boo ********* hoo! As I recall, he wasn't the one already labeled a bust before playing a single down such as MW was. You want to talk about pressure and being overwhelmed, try walking a mile in Mario's shoes. Also, he isn't the first player ever to come out of the hood and see the shootings and killings that are associated with it, so what makes him so special? Maybe I'm taking this out of context, but welcome to the real world buddy. We all have stress and pressure to perform to our capabilities, just not always in the same jobs. I think this story was written with the intentions of clearing the pictures of him shirtless and wasted at a party, so that his "role model" label isn't tarnished.

Just my :twocents:

gtexan02
05-24-2008, 11:12 AM
This is what happens when everything comes easy your whole life, and you finally make it to a level where things arent so simple.

A guy like VY has always been so athletic and gifted that he could single handedly take games over whenever he wanted. He cant do that in the NFL

Im not surprised he had a tough time, but its nice to see him open up about it. I have to say IM a little surprised his insides are so weak tho

The Dream
05-24-2008, 11:49 AM
Vick, PacMan, and various rappers as sounding boards? Wow

he's talking about the trouble they got into and the lessons he learned from their mistakes........


Boo ********* hoo! As I recall, he wasn't the one already labeled a bust before playing a single down such as MW was. You want to talk about pressure and being overwhelmed, try walking a mile in Mario's shoes. Also, he isn't the first player ever to come out of the hood and see the shootings and killings that are associated with it, so what makes him so special? Maybe I'm taking this out of context, but welcome to the real world buddy. We all have stress and pressure to perform to our capabilities, just not always in the same jobs. I think this story was written with the intentions of clearing the pictures of him shirtless and wasted at a party, so that his "role model" label isn't tarnished.


I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Vince seems like the type of person that knows that he's blessed (he's always saying it), he's just speaking of the adjustments he's had to make...........and I still don't know what the big deal is about him drinking?????? It's like you'll expect dude not to live a normal life, because he's a "role model"......it isn't like he's making commercials making statements such as "say yes to cocaine", lol. Seriously the avg. kid who watches his games also probably watches the beer adds in between each commercial break, and is probably around their father who is most likely cracking a brew or two..............those pictures aren't going to tarnish anything........

BattleRedToro
05-24-2008, 12:45 PM
It sounds to me like someone that has been told that he was the greatest thing since sliced bread for his entire life, up until last year when people started to say that he has regressed. Now, the reality of the situation has sunk in, and he realized that he had bought into his own hype, that is he won't be able to dominate this league due to his athleticism.

The Dream
05-24-2008, 01:28 PM
^^^I didn't get that from it at all, lol..............

WWJD
05-24-2008, 01:44 PM
It sounds to me like someone that has been told that he was the greatest thing since sliced bread for his entire life, up until last year when people started to say that he has regressed. Now, the reality of the situation has sunk in, and he realized that he had bought in his own hype, that is he won't be able to dominate this league due to his athleticism.

I bet not. I am sure he knew going into the NFL that it would be an adjustment. He still had that senior year left at UT and I'm sure Vince is smart enough football wise to know that it would not be easy in the NFL.

He said it was not fun anymore. So he's young and had some second thoughts. It happens. To him football is a job. To me my job is something else but it's still a job. And I've had plenty of times thinking what am I doing here? He had some of those moments. That's all.

b0ng
05-24-2008, 02:01 PM
You keep that kind of stuff to yourself when you're a star QB in the NFL. I don't think these quotes will win him any fans in Nashville, him being honest or him just being immature. If Matt Schaub came out and said that he thought of retirement after being injured a lot last season, I'd be really worried that my QB didn't have the drive to want to be the best at his position.

adam
05-24-2008, 02:41 PM
I have news for you, Vince: It aint getting any easier. You're heading into your third season in the NFL and it's about that time where people start expecting serious results out of the third overall pick. 9TDs, 17 INTs, and as many fumbles lost as rushing TDs isn't going to cut it for you next season.

I can understand that NFL QBs are under a lot of pressure, especially those drafted number three in the draft that haven't produced. That said, it's time you manned up, Vince. If you would like to be a role model, you could start with your attitude. Sitting on your ass, staring into space after a loss is not what you want out of a role model/team leader, nor is throwing a hissy fit on the field when things don't go your way. Finally, football is a game: this is a fact. However, first and foremost, it is a business...a business that is not always fun. You weren't drafted and aren't paid to have fun, you are there to be a team leader and put up results. If you want to have fun, I would suggest getting your friends together and playing a game of two-hand touch (preferably with your shirt on and away from the liquor cabinet). In the mean time, man up and act more like an NFL QB than a whiny, hormonal, junior varsity QB.

Just my opinion.

The Dream
05-24-2008, 03:03 PM
I have news for you, Vince: It aint getting any easier. You're heading into your third season in the NFL and it's about that time where people start expecting serious results out of the third overall pick. 9TDs, 17 INTs, and as many fumbles lost as rushing TDs isn't going to cut it for you next season.

I can understand that NFL QBs are under a lot of pressure, especially those drafted number three in the draft that haven't produced. That said, it's time you manned up, Vince. If you would like to be a role model, you could start with your attitude. Sitting on your ass, staring into space after a loss is not what you want out of a role model/team leader, nor is throwing a hissy fit on the field when things don't go your way. Finally, football is a game: this is a fact. However, first and foremost, it is a business...a business that is not always fun. You weren't drafted and aren't paid to have fun, you are there to be a team leader and put up results. If you want to have fun, I would suggest getting your friends together and playing a game of two-hand touch (preferably with your shirt on and away from the liquor cabinet). In the mean time, man up and act more like an NFL QB than a whiny, hormonal, junior varsity QB.

Just my opinion.


I'm sensing hatred, lol...........

StarStruck
05-24-2008, 03:16 PM
Few things I respect more than when a person can open up and keep it real when the going gets tough. Anybody can appear tough and lie for the sake of image. Nothing special there, join the crowd.

If Vince's career in the NFL works out and he goes on to be a hall of famer, great, yet if for whatever the reason professional football turns out to not be his true calling, then I wish him the best in what ever positive career that turns out to be.

adam
05-24-2008, 03:33 PM
I'm sensing hatred, lol...........

I don't hate Vince Young. What I do hate however is seeing a professional football player (and grown man) emoting to reporters when he should be concentrating on bettering himself as a player and leader.

NitroGSXR
05-24-2008, 03:36 PM
I met Vince Young right after he was selected by the Titans. He came to Club Sky (or whatever it was called back then. It's now the new location of TOC Bar. That place changes names so fast it's silly.). Vince came in and we parked his Titans colored Escalade with custom embroidered seats.

Vince came in at like 6pm and didn't leave until 3am (they opened early for a party in which he was not the only NFL player there. A lot of NY Jets players were there. Don't ask me why. I still don't know to this day what that party was all about. I just worked outside parking cars.). What I found astonishing about that night was when he came out. He wasn't drunk. At all. He was actually a very very good customer. Very nice to the fans who actually booed him at the club.

I don't know... What I do know is that when he pulled up, I wanted to trash his truck for flaunting that he's a Tennessee Titan in Houston. I wanted to shred his custom embroidered seats which said VY with a 10 in there.

I had my camera phone ready to go. I actually neglected my customers at the end of the night by watching the door and ensuring that I would not miss Vince Young walk out. Vince Young's chauffeur (or entourage designated driver) was drunk so Vince ended up taking the keys from him and driving himself home. I personally gave him his keys. The man smiled at me and I just immediately went weak in the knees. I just went into awe after pacing back and forth all freaking night long ready to pounce on him with my camera phone.

I had a newfound respect for the man. I absolutely expected him to be making headlines the next day for staying inside that club for 9 straight hours. The man was sober as can be. The man still welcomed his fans/non-fans after a night of partying.

I guess I can't help but respect him more after hearing him say all this retirement stuff. Hang tough, Vince Young. We need to you remain with the Titans for the next ten years. See, we need ten years of easy wins against ya'll.:wild:

Gooc luck, Vince. Depression is no joke and I can't help but respect someone who's battling.

WWJD
05-24-2008, 04:07 PM
Vince didn't say he was depressed. He said he had second thoughts about being an NFL QB and it wasn't fun for awhile.

BigTimeTexanFan
05-24-2008, 04:52 PM
Hopefully Mario and the Texans can make it even less fun for him this season!

Overalls
05-24-2008, 10:28 PM
Hopefully Mario and the Texans can make it even less fun for him this season!

I am sorry that Vince isn't having a good time as a NFL QB. I feel for the man. The poor kid can't get drunk and stupid without people worrying about that 50 mil contract he got to play and win in the NFL. He still wants to hang with the guys on the old UT football team and rehash his college glory years. Heck everyone one the face of the planet has had it better than him. I feel so very sorry for him. He is just a human on a pedistal that is afraid of heights. He wants the kids that look up to him to know that just because you do a few drugs and get your freak on while your buds film it, it doesn't mean you can't cry in public when you get busted. All is forgiven. Its amazing that this little sob story hit the stands right after his dirty dancing with the boys pics came out. He is starting to have a Ryan Leaf feel about him. Self important and likes his booze and partying.

I don't know anyone whose life if perfect. Most of us just don't get the opportunity to try to make the entire football watching world feel sorry for us when we don't feel like playing. I guess this is when he would throw his helmit around and cry on the sidelines his rookie year. Although he still would sulk on the sidelines last season.

It's not his ball any more. He can't just pick it up and go home when he doesn't get his way any more. Let's see if any real repentence comes out of it. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt. He is still young, but he needs to man up and be a leader and not just one of the boys.

Of course the main reason I even post anything negative about ol' VY is that all the excuse making from the "he walks on water crowd" makes me sick. Their love fest for the QB for a division rival is just this side of being a traitor to the team they say they root for. There has been hundreds of kids come out of the Houston area to the NFL. Most of them had some type of hardships growing up and some people around here act like Vince Young is the only player in the history of the NFL to come from Texas. Ya, I know you just like the burnt ornge color of his jock strap. You can have respect for a player on another team without making the rest of us feel dirty after reading your post.

:rant:


:fans:

WWJD
05-24-2008, 10:55 PM
I personally will always appreciate what Vince did as a Longhorn because I like the Horns. I have a rooting interest in that team.

I don't have a rooting interest in his pro career but I'll be a Vince HORN fan forever.

Hervoyel
05-24-2008, 11:27 PM
At least he's honest. Sometimes people that you think have it all really aren't happy.

Honestly speaking I believe that he's a complete dumbass. This man will not amount to anything special as QB's go. In the college game he was a fierce competitor with excellent physical tools but in the NFL that just gets you in the door. I don't think that Vince Young has the mental toughness or the intellectual horsepower to excel at this position on this level.

WWJD
05-24-2008, 11:53 PM
Honestly speaking I believe that he's a complete dumbass. This man will not amount to anything special as QB's go. In the college game he was a fierce competitor with excellent physical tools but in the NFL that just gets you in the door. I don't think that Vince Young has the mental toughness or the intellectual horsepower to excel at this position on this level.

Remains to be seen. He's young and he has alot to learn. Can't judge after 2 years...if that's the window for determining the quality of an NFL QB's career than alot of great QB play would have been lost. You give them time and they either do well or they don't. Depends on the team as well. He had a great team at UT. Lots of variables here.

TexanSam
05-24-2008, 11:56 PM
I'm glad he didn't retire. That would have forced the the Titans to draft a good quarterback

Mr teX
05-25-2008, 12:25 AM
I'm sensing hatred, lol...........

Yeah, & it's sad that some in here can't distinguish VY the ball player from VY the person. Dude is just being honest about a rough time in his life & folks want to take the opportunity to take a dump on em'.

Carr Bombed
05-25-2008, 02:47 AM
Yeah, & it's sad that some in here can't distinguish VY the ball player from VY the person. Dude is just being honest about a rough time in his life & folks want to take the opportunity to take a dump on em'.

Everybody has "rough times" in their lives......personally the last thing I want to do is read about a millionaire who plays games for a living, ***** and moan and flat out cry about how "rough his life is".

I mean does Vince think he's the only player in the NFL that has come from a rough upbringing in a bad part of town?

Let's take Curtis Martin for instance....
http://football.about.com/b/2006/11/02/curtis-martin-brought-class-to-the-nfl.htm
As a child, he witnessed his father beating his mother on a regular basis. After his father deserted he and his mother, his grandmother moved in and assumed the role his father had abandoned. Tragically, a nine-year-old Curtis returned home from school one day to find his grandmother murdered in her bed, and the knife used to kill her was still embedded in her chest.

As a youth, he was involved with gang activity and assumed he would not live past the age of 21. In fact, he says dozens of his friends were murdered over the years, and even he thought his time had come at one point when a rival gang member held a gun to his head and pulled the trigger... seven times. The gun, however, failed to discharge until the thug behind it pointed it at a wall and tried again.

At some point following that incident, Martin decided someone must be looking out for him.


and here's the part that Vince Young needs to listen to instead of getting all emo and contemplate walking out on his obligations to his team.

And it was at that time that he found God, and put his tragic lifestyle behind him. He became a man of priciple, and used his career in football to reach out to others in similar circumstances...........Other players use hardships in their life as an excuse for their behavior, saying they are misunderstood. Martin has never done that despite having as much reason as anyone to do so.

Curtis Martin went through more "family problems and harsh times" than probably anybody that has ever played, instead of pouting and feeling sorry for himself, he just went on to have a HOF career and become one of the classiest players to ever play in the NFL.

PapaL
05-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Here's the Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3413244):

Pressure almost pushed Young out of NFL after one season


Vince Young is known for escaping pressure. The quarterback almost took that to extremes.

The Tennessee Titans 2006 Rookie of the Year told NFL.com in an interview posted on Monday that he considered retirement after his first season.

"I really thought long and hard about it," Young told the Web site. "There was so much going on with my family. It was crazy being an NFL quarterback. It wasn't fun anymore. All of the fun was out of it. All of the excitement was gone. All I was doing was worrying about things.

"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."

Young was installed as the Titans starter in Week 4 of his rookie season and led Tennessee to an 8-8 record. The Titans barely missed making the playoffs, but Young was named to the Pro Bowl.

Last season, the Titans did make it to the playoffs, but Young threw all nine of the team's touchdown passes for the fewest of any team in the league. Nonetheless, he learned to live with the pressure of being an NFL quarterback.

He proved that to himself when he handled scrutiny that came his way when pictures of him drinking shirtless at a party showed up on the Internet.

"I have a stronger circle," Young told the Web site. "Now I can handle this kind of stuff without it making me want to give up football. I learned that 24/7 I'm representing the Titans and, especially, the kids all over I am trying to influence. I look at my man Michael Vick. I learned from that. I look at Pacman [Jones]. I learned from that. I look at some troubles recently for rappers T.I. and Lil Wayne, guys I listen to. I learned from them. I've learned from my life."


If the guy could barely handle the pressure in TEN what would have happened if he was a Texan? Pressure would have been 10x what it ever could be there. Dunno...

HJam72
05-26-2008, 09:47 PM
Reggie must be considering suicide.

Showtime100
05-26-2008, 10:10 PM
No biggie, I've done it myself, but....http://texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50561&highlight=retirement

Carr Bombed
05-26-2008, 10:12 PM
Reggie must be considering suicide.

I'm sorry, but that's one of the funniest things I've read on this board. Classic.

Showtime100
05-26-2008, 10:17 PM
I'm sorry, but that's one of the funniest things I've read on this board. Classic.

Couldn't agree more..lol.

Mr teX
05-27-2008, 09:24 AM
Everybody has "rough times" in their lives......personally the last thing I want to do is read about a millionaire who plays games for a living, ***** and moan and flat out cry about how "rough his life is".

I mean does Vince think he's the only player in the NFL that has come from a rough upbringing in a bad part of town?

Let's take Curtis Martin for instance....
http://football.about.com/b/2006/11/02/curtis-martin-brought-class-to-the-nfl.htm


and here's the part that Vince Young needs to listen to instead of getting all emo and contemplate walking out on his obligations to his team.



Curtis Martin went through more "family problems and harsh times" than probably anybody that has ever played, instead of pouting and feeling sorry for himself, he just went on to have a HOF career and become one of the classiest players to ever play in the NFL.

I don't see it this way at all & this is coming from a labeled "VY hater". Different strokes for different folks. We all don't handle stress the same & just b/c you have money coming out of your @#$ doesn't mean that it makes everything all good.

Furthermore i was talking about the comments in red that silver oak wrote in conjunction with the story.