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MojoMan
05-20-2008, 09:33 AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5791683.html

NFL owners opt out of labor agreement
Vote clears way for next three years

Associated Press

ATLANTA — NFL owners have voted unanimously to shorten their labor agreement, meaning the current contract will end in 2011 instead of 2013.

A new deal must be in place by March 2009 to avoid a 2010 season without a salary cap. However, the NFL says that even without a new agreement there will be no interruption of play for at least the next three seasons.

NFL owners have been concerned that the current contract leans too far toward the players, who now get 60 percent of total team revenues. Owners also say profits have declined because of economic conditions.

Anarchy rules in the NFL.

What are the chances that all the GMs will be able to keep control of themselves and avoid a sky's-the-limit bidding war for the top talent?

PapaL
05-20-2008, 09:35 AM
The wonderful results Daniel Snyder has had might sway them.

BigBull17
05-20-2008, 11:36 AM
At least the Texans are a high income organization.

Wolf
05-20-2008, 11:37 AM
NFL owners opt out of labor agreement

By DAVE GOLDBERG, AP Football Writers 24 minutes ago

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ATLANTA (AP)—The NFL owners voted unanimously Tuesday to end their agreement with the players’ union in 2011, two years before the deal was to expire.

The league, however, emphasized that it will keep negotiating with the NFL Players Association and said games will be played “without threat of interruption for at least the next three seasons.”

The owners had until Nov. 8 to opt out of the agreement, a provision written into the deal when it was signed in March 2006. They decided to act early, partly because they didn’t want to do so while the 2008 season had begun.

Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFLPA, said on Sirius NFL Radio he learned of the owners’ decision by e-mail from commissioner Roger Goodell.

“My response to his e-mail was very simple: ‘What a surprise,”’ Upshaw said sarcastically.

Upshaw has been predicting this the last few months and last weekend referred to the owners as “greedy.”

The last time an agreement was made, the deal was done a year before the capless year. Upshaw said during a conference call the realistic deadline is 2010 because the cap for 2007 already has been set at $123 million. The original contract, signed in 1993, specified that the final year of the deal be without a cap.

“As they say during the draft, we’re on the clock,” Upshaw said. “That’s basically what it means.”

The owners noted in their statement that they are paying $4.5 billion to players this year, just under 60 percent of their total revenues as specified in the 2006 agreement.

They acknowledge that before the 1996 agreement the pendulum had swung toward them. Now, they contend, the new deal combined with a decline in the economy has made the agreement more favorable to players.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nfllabor&prov=ap&type=lgns

HOU-TEX
05-20-2008, 11:49 AM
Upshaw's an asshat! :bat:

TexanSam
05-20-2008, 11:56 AM
I really hope that the NFL and the owners and players agree to having a salary cap. If there wasn't one it would turn out just like baseball. Teams that are good every year and teams that aren't because they don't want to pay the high price for free agents

Señor Stan
05-20-2008, 12:03 PM
They need to establish a rookie salary cap akin to the NBA.

This could allow more $ to be distributed to established vets. It could also keep weaker teams that are drafting high from crippling their teams by drafting someone that doesn't work out.

It should not have issues passing, because the players it would affect are not even in the Leauge yet, and hence not part of the union.

BigTimeTexanFan
05-20-2008, 12:37 PM
I really don't think the owners are going to allow an uncapped year. Something will get done before that happens.

I don't see how Upshaw can call the owners "greedy". The players are getting 60% of the revenues. I know there's tons of money in the NFL, but what Upshaw seems to be forgetting is that it takes tons of money to run an NFL franchise. The remaining 40% isn't going into the owners pockets, that's for sure. They still have to pay coaches, G.M.'s, Scouting departments, PR departments, etc. Not to mention overhead. It's not like the players are the only employees the owners have to pay for their NFL teams. JMHO.

Hardcore Texan
05-20-2008, 12:44 PM
Upshaw's an asshat! :bat:

Agreed, he does more harm than good.

They need to establish a rookie salary cap akin to the NBA.

This could allow more $ to be distributed to established vets. It could also keep weaker teams that are drafting high from crippling their teams by drafting someone that doesn't work out.

It should not have issues passing, because the players it would affect are not even in the Leauge yet, and hence not part of the union.

This is exactly what needs to happen, the rookies are paid way too money coming out, especially the top 5 picks. It goes up every year too. It could be capped our something and they would still make tons of money, I just can't see giving a buy 30 mil guaranteed that hasn't set foot on the field as a Pro.

BigTimeTexanFan
05-20-2008, 12:55 PM
They need to establish a rookie salary cap akin to the NBA.
This could allow more $ to be distributed to established vets. It could also keep weaker teams that are drafting high from crippling their teams by drafting someone that doesn't work out.

It should not have issues passing, because the players it would affect are not even in the Leauge yet, and hence not part of the union.


I certainly agree as does just about everyone except for the rookies, but they don't get a vote considering they are not in the NFL (future rooks).

If they ever do implement a rookie salary cap, expect to see a significantly larger junior class in the draft the preceeding year. since they're not going want to miss out on a potential larger pay day. Some will be glad they came out early and some won't.

Texaninlild
05-20-2008, 01:02 PM
If any of you have Sirius you should listen to 124. They go into detail on the labor agreement and its affects on the game.

It really should not affect us for 2008 season or 2009 season, but it could start coming into play in 2010 and 2011.

I agree, Upshaw = Ass Clown

They need to do something about the rookie salaries and put that money back into the journeyman's salaries. Give it to those who have earned it.

Hagar
05-20-2008, 02:02 PM
Personall, I'd like to see revenue sharing and a straight per year cap. None of this deferred crap. If you spend it that year, it effects your cap that year. Some times you have to Keep It Simple Stupid.

Texans_Chick
05-20-2008, 02:56 PM
Both labor and the NFL are messed up on this issue:

Yeah, it is uncool when the NFL has to keep paying a player who does some sort of misdeed, and can't get their money back.

It is also uncool that rookies get paid more than vets, though Upshaw wants to keep that because it puts upward pressure on vet salaries when they are good. I think it is bad for the game, bad for the lockerroom that unproven players get paid so much.

But from the player's side, it is uncool that in a very violent sport, a contract means very little. If the player plays well, they can't go anywhere else, but if the player gets hurt, well then the contract means little and they can be out of a job.

I don't blame the players for trying to get as much as they can when their careers are so short.

And, the biggest issue with the Labor Agreement is the problems between the high and lower revenue teams. The percentage of salary thing hurts the lower revenue teams more because they don't have the total assets of the higher revenue teams. The battle between high and low is a battle that has little to do with the labor agreement with the players, but they are trying to adjust their labor costs to sweep the battle between the owners under the rug.

JayCee
05-20-2008, 04:25 PM
Does someone have a link where it explains the CBA?

Just so I know I understand the REAL basics of this - the current CBA specified that the final year of the agreement would be capless, and they have moved the final year forward by 2 years, hence making it harder to get a new agreement in place before the final year is reached?