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Lucky
05-19-2008, 06:35 PM
Kubiak had some interesting things to say (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4327), including a reference to another Texan injury.

(on DT Travis Johnson) “Well, I’m concerned. He’s missed a lot of time. He’s got the inflammation in the pelvic area, is the best way I can describe it. He’s way behind the team from a physical standpoint. Nothing he can do; they’ve had him resting. Before I put him on the football field, I want to make sure he catches up with his teammates conditioning-wise, so you’ll just see him conditioning at the time.”


(on where DT Travis Johnson’s injury came from) “Well, it’s kind of been something’s that bothered him before and then it crept up again back in February, early March. And we’ve tried a few different scenarios. He had an injection the other day that we’re waiting to see how he recovers from. He has felt better. He ran Friday, he ran today, so we’ll see.”
Inflammation in the pelvic area. Ouch.

(on if T Charles Spencer will join group drills before training camp) “Well, what we’re going to do this week is kind of take him in the same pattern we did during mini-camp. He’ll do a little bit. At some point here, we’re fixing to turn him loose. I’ll let y’all know when that is, and then we’ll see how he responds.”I'll believe it when I see it.

(on if he has considered moving RB Chris Taylor to fullback) “No. I think you need a player that you think can maybe play a little bit of both spots when you go to game day because it helps you just suit so many players, but at this point we’ve got enough guys, so we’ll leave him where he’s at.”Taylor at FB? He doesn't look anything like a FB. Did McFly, I mean McClain, ask that question?

aj.
05-19-2008, 07:00 PM
Taylor at FB? He doesn't look anything like a FB. Did McFly, I mean McClain, ask that question?

The question was probably asked because of the RB numbers game and the fact that we saw Taylor get reps at FB during OTAs last year (with Leach and Cook healthy). Maybe they were just fill-in reps but they were reps and someone remembered it. Kubiak does a lot more with his FBs than simply lead blocking out of the I. There's probably a 'stupider' question out there that I could come up with if given a minute or two.

JWarren14
05-19-2008, 07:01 PM
I like what Kubes said about Gibbs:

“Well, he’s demanding. He doesn’t just coach his offensive linemen, he coaches everybody. He coaches the backs, the quarterbacks, he coaches me, he coaches the running back coach. He’s demanding on everybody for his run game to work, and that’s why it’s been successful.”
Im really pumped to see the running game September 7th at Heinz Field :wild:

BornOrange
05-19-2008, 07:15 PM
Taylor at FB? He doesn't look anything like a FB. Did McFly, I mean McClain, ask that question?

Kubiak happens to think he looks like a fullback, at least he did last year.
Last year at OTA's (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=3368)

Taylor to fullback?: Don’t expect to see it anytime soon, but Chris Taylor has seen time at fullback throughout OTA’s.

Kubiak noted the depth at running back after Tuesday’s workout and said Wednesday that Taylor could be a candidate to play fullback at some point in his career.

“I think Chris Taylor has the size that he can play that spot some, but I feel good about Vonta (Leach) and I feel good about Jameel (Cook) coming back and I like the way Joel Dreessen has been working there along with the young kid (Cory) Anderson so we have enough people there.”

But considering that Taylor finds himself in a dog fight for position on the depth chart behind Ahman Green and Ron Dayne at running back, his perceived versatility may give him an edge when the 53-man roster is announced come August.

“When we do practice we do work Chris in there a bit at that position,” Kubiak said.

BornOrange
05-19-2008, 07:23 PM
:confused: BTW, when I first heard that Travis Johnson had "pelvic inflammation" I was concerned that he had a little too much fun on his honeymoon. But seeing that he started having the problem back in February, I don't know what to think....:confused:

aj.
05-19-2008, 07:29 PM
Maybe it's revised code for anal fissure.

BornOrange
05-19-2008, 07:36 PM
I seriously doubt there is or ever has been any connection between Johnson's pelvis and Matsui's anus.

Not that there's anything wrong with that..........

PapaL
05-19-2008, 07:57 PM
Got Penicillin?

Lucky
05-19-2008, 08:07 PM
Kubiak happens to think he looks like a fullback, at least he did last year.

That Taylor might take some reps doesn't mean he's in for a position change. Taylor looks like a FB the same as Jameel Cook looks like a RB. And Cook actually had to play RB in an emergency situation, last season. Why not ask if Cook is being moved to RB?

TEXANRED
05-19-2008, 09:04 PM
(on DT Travis Johnson) “Well, I’m concerned. He’s missed a lot of time. He’s got the inflammation in the pelvic area, is the best way I can describe it. He’s way behind the team from a physical standpoint. Nothing he can do; they’ve had him resting. Before I put him on the football field, I want to make sure he catches up with his teammates conditioning-wise, so you’ll just see him conditioning at the time.”


(on where DT Travis Johnson’s injury came from) “Well, it’s kind of been something’s that bothered him before and then it crept up again back in February, early March. And we’ve tried a few different scenarios. He had an injection the other day that we’re waiting to see how he recovers from. He has felt better. He ran Friday, he ran today, so we’ll see.”

The door for Okam just keeps opening a little wider by the day.

Which is good b/c he needs a pretty big opening to get through it.

BornOrange
05-20-2008, 08:19 AM
That Taylor might take some reps doesn't mean he's in for a position change. Taylor looks like a FB the same as Jameel Cook looks like a RB. And Cook actually had to play RB in an emergency situation, last season. Why not ask if Cook is being moved to RB?
I'm just quoting Kubiak. And we both agree that Taylor isn't a true fullback.
However, Kubiak tends to like smaller fullbacks.

Remember that Denver moved Mike Anderson to fullback a few years back. He is listed at 6-0 and 230 now, but at the time of the move I don't think he was quite that heavy.

Kubiak went into his first season as a head coach with Jameel Cook as the only fullback on the roster. We would both agree that Cook isn't an ideal fullback. Vonta Leach wasn't signed until October. Kubiak cut Moran Norris in May, although he, like Leach, seems to be what we all want in a fullback.

nunusguy
05-20-2008, 08:58 AM
Why are people so caught up in the idea of Taylor of playing FB ? If
its because he's about 220 lbs, so what ? If he's 245 he's still got to be
able to block, right ? Can he block ?
As far as drafting Okam, I always wondered if TJ wasn't the biggest reason for the pick and not whether or not Okam was a value in the 5th round ?
TJs performance while here has been very inconsistant, and given that he is really more suited to play AOs position as a 3-technique type and not next to him as a 2-gapper was further reason to take Okam.
Now this medical issue is just one more reason to wonder about TJs future in Houston ?

edo783
05-20-2008, 09:44 AM
Why are people so caught up in the idea of Taylor of playing FB ?

I think it comes from folks wanting him on the team and trying to figure a way to get him there with all the RBs we have. Besides, Cook isn't to good anyway.

HOU-TEX
05-20-2008, 09:52 AM
Why are people so caught up in the idea of Taylor of playing FB ? If
its because he's about 220 lbs, so what ? If he's 245 he's still got to be
able to block, right ? Can he block ?
As far as drafting Okam, I always wondered if TJ wasn't the biggest reason for the pick and not whether or not Okam was a value in the 5th round ?
TJs performance while here has been very inconsistant, and given that he is really more suited to play AOs position as a 3-technique type and not next to him as a 2-gapper was further reason to take Okam.
Now this medical issue is just one more reason to wonder about TJs future in Houston ?

I don't wonder about his future here. I happen to think he's a pretty good ball player. As many times as I've watched this past season's games, TJ's the last DT I'd point blame at. I do like the fact we got Okam to better fullfill the NT position, but IMO Okoye has to make that step otherwise we'll be in the same boat as last season. Maddox, Zgonina, etc. aren't the answer either.

IMO, TJ's our best DT on the roster after last season. It all depends on whether Amobi can take that next step.

:fans:

Vinny
05-20-2008, 10:23 AM
Kubiak does a lot more with his FBs than simply lead blocking out of the I.

I'm just quoting Kubiak. And we both agree that Taylor isn't a true fullback.
However, Kubiak tends to like smaller fullbacks.

Remember that Denver moved Mike Anderson to fullback a few years back. He is listed at 6-0 and 230 now, but at the time of the move I don't think he was quite that heavy.

Kubiak went into his first season as a head coach with Jameel Cook as the only fullback on the roster. We would both agree that Cook isn't an ideal fullback. Vonta Leach wasn't signed until October. Kubiak cut Moran Norris in May, although he, like Leach, seems to be what we all want in a fullback.

Why are people so caught up in the idea of Taylor of playing FB ? If
its because he's about 220 lbs, so what ? If he's 245 he's still got to be
able to block, right ? Can he block ?

Sure he needs to block but we don't tend to use the FB as a smash mouth blocking back all that much. Like aj touched on, Kubiak uses the FB all over the field and a bit like a H-back and thats one reason I was hoping we would go after a guy like Jacob Hester if he was around later in the draft. Hester is about the same size as Taylor fwiw. Hester combined with Tomlinson and Gates at TE....who needs wrs? Norv Turner died and went to heaven.

dalemurphy
05-20-2008, 11:38 AM
Sure he needs to block but we don't tend to use the FB as a smash mouth blocking back all that much. Like aj touched on, Kubiak uses the FB all over the field and a bit like a H-back and thats one reason I was hoping we would go after a guy like Jacob Hester if he was around later in the draft. Hester is about the same size as Taylor fwiw. Hester combined with Tomlinson and Gates at TE....who needs wrs? Norv Turner died and went to heaven.


Yeah, I think the point is, whatever you label C.Taylor, he needs to make this team. If that means he's one of four TBs on the roster and we only have one FB, then fine. With the injury history of Chris Brown and AGreen, they can't cut him loose.

My bet is, if everyone makes it out of camp healthy, Taylor will be one of four HBs on the roster, we'll keep one FB, and, John Abbate will be on the practice squad for insurance.

Texans_Chick
05-20-2008, 11:45 AM
(on DT Travis Johnson) “Well, I’m concerned. He’s missed a lot of time. He’s got the inflammation in the pelvic area, is the best way I can describe it. He’s way behind the team from a physical standpoint. Nothing he can do; they’ve had him resting. Before I put him on the football field, I want to make sure he catches up with his teammates conditioning-wise, so you’ll just see him conditioning at the time.”


(on where DT Travis Johnson’s injury came from) “Well, it’s kind of been something’s that bothered him before and then it crept up again back in February, early March. And we’ve tried a few different scenarios. He had an injection the other day that we’re waiting to see how he recovers from. He has felt better. He ran Friday, he ran today, so we’ll see.”

These quotes from the HT.com quotes are an illustration of why you should read HT.com before reading anything from the Chronicle.

Here's an excerpt from Manfull's article:

In other news, defensive tackle Travis Johnson returned to the team after missing the minicamp two weeks ago for his wedding. Johnson did not join his teammates on the field though.

The Texans are monitoring a pelvic injury. They are unsure how long it will sideline Johnson.

"Well, I'm concerned," Kubiak said. "He's missed a lot of time. He's got the inflammation in the pelvic area, is the best way I can describe it. He's way behind the team from a physical standpoint. Nothing he can do; they've had him resting.

"Before I put him on the football field, I want to make sure he catches up with his teammates conditioning-wise, so you'll just see him conditioning at the time."

It's written in a way to invite ridicule. Ha ha, Travis did his wedding instead of minicamp and now he has an inflamed pelvis.

If you read all the quotes at HT.com, you would know that he has had this problem for a while, inclulding in the months of February and March.

Thank goodness for the Texans putting all the quotes on their website, so you can get a more complete view of things. I realize the Chronicle has limited space in the paper to put stories down and that their deadlines are tight, but I don't care for writing that possibly misleads a reader.

nunusguy
05-20-2008, 12:30 PM
Sure he needs to block but we don't tend to use the FB as a smash mouth blocking back all that much. Like aj touched on, Kubiak uses the FB all over the field and a bit like a H-back
Good point. And since our FBs catch the ball out of the backfield, they have
to be able to block and act as a receiver. And that may make Taylors qualifications to play FB in our system even more dubious because I have no idea if he's got any hands ? So that's in addition to questions about his blocking skills ?

thunderkyss
05-20-2008, 12:47 PM
TJs... ...and given that he is really more suited to play AOs position as a 3-technique type and not next to him as a 2-gapper was further reason to take Okam.


I said the same thing when we drafted Okam, and was told I didn't know what I was talking about.

The Pencil Neck
05-20-2008, 12:52 PM
I said the same thing when we drafted Okam, and was told I didn't know what I was talking about.

I said this before we drafted Okam. With pretty much the same result.

beerlover
05-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Okam as a 5th rd. pick is > than Travis Johnson from an intelligence stand-point :bubble:

Texans_Chick
05-20-2008, 03:46 PM
Okam as a 5th rd. pick is > than Travis Johnson from an intelligence stand-point :bubble:

Okam's intelligence > lots of people in our society, not just Travis Johnson

NBT
05-20-2008, 04:19 PM
T.J gets a bad rap. But a lot of it he brings on himself. I was hoping that after getting married he would settle down a bit. Sill to be determined, I guess.

gtexan02
05-20-2008, 05:10 PM
T.J gets a bad rap. But a lot of it he brings on himself. I was hoping that after getting married he would settle down a bit. Sill to be determined, I guess.


What are you talking about? How is a muscle injury any indication that he hasn't "settled down"

The dude gets a horrible rap with no reason for it sometimes

disaacks3
05-20-2008, 05:44 PM
Thank goodness for the Texans putting all the quotes on their website, so you can get a more complete view of things. I realize the Chronicle has limited space in the paper to put stories down and that their deadlines are tight, but I don't care for writing that possibly misleads a reader. Misleading writing @ the Chronic? I can't possibly imagine that...:sarcasm:


The dude gets a horrible rap with no reason for it sometimes ...and the other times he brings it COMPLETELY upon himself. He played w/ the spirit of a rented mule his first season.

Silver Oak
05-20-2008, 05:59 PM
He played w/ the spirit of a rented mule his first season.


:goodpost:

barrett
05-20-2008, 06:14 PM
and he played like a man possessed last year. making plays all over the field and playing mean!

but why let that get in the way of your opinions of him from a few years ago.

all he did was make plays. what a looser. lets cut him.

b0ng
05-20-2008, 06:33 PM
and he played like a man possessed last year. making plays all over the field and playing mean!

but why let that get in the way of your opinions of him from a few years ago.

all he did was make plays. what a looser. lets cut him.

Who possesed him, somebody who can't stop the run up the middle? Seriously, if he was playing that great last year, we wouldn't have been hangin out near the bottom of the NFL vs the run on defense this past season.

Sorry, he hasn't added any to the sack game vs the pass, and I don't see him constantly stuffing would be gains into losses. Travis Johnson played just good enough last year to not lose his spot to Anthony Maddox full time (Which he did lose his spot to Maddox in '06). I think the Okam pick is very interesting, and I think that Johnson better play his little heart out this year or he might find himself on the wrong end of a small contract next year.

I don't hate the guy, but I see people say he was running around making plays, and I wonder "where was that happening at?" So by all means, I would love to know games that he completely dominated and took over last year.

EDIT : After reading that it seems snarky and assholish, but honestly, I didn't see all this great play that Johnson was making last season. His contract year is going to be interesting none the less.

TheRealJoker
05-20-2008, 06:45 PM
I think TJ has his place in our defense and is an asset.

But I also think that he would be best used as the 3rd DT in a rotation and not a starter next to Okoye.

Hopefully Okam becomes what people thought he would become after his sophomore year so TJ can be the 3rd DT in the rotation.

But admittedly that is a Homer expectation to expect a 5th round pick to become a starter in his rookie year. And a good starter to boot...

ocd
05-20-2008, 06:49 PM
You guys know why TJ has a bad rap, you're just not saying it.

We refer to it as "operation Trent Green".


:hides:

TheRealJoker
05-20-2008, 06:53 PM
You guys know why TJ has a bad rap, you're just not saying it.

We refer to it as "operation Trent Green".


:hides:

TJ had a bad rap as soon as the Texans traded down and passesd on Derrick Johnson and Jamaal Brown to get him.

I think most of the hate is unwarranted but he definately isn't a 1st round caliber impact player. But at the same time he isn't a bust on the level of lots of 1st rounders. Just a solid role player imo.

Goldensilence
05-20-2008, 07:01 PM
What are you talking about? How is a muscle injury any indication that he hasn't "settled down"

The dude gets a horrible rap with no reason for it sometimes

He'll probably have that bad rap until he makes a pro-bowl or plays up to being a 1st round selection. It's a hard climb uphill for him with fans because he was a Casserly and Capers Pick. I'm still trying to figure out what made Capers think he'd be a perfect guy for DT in a 3-4 along with a lot of people I would guess.

Last year he played more like a guy that should've been a first day pick. It is a contract year for him but I don't t see him really having a breakout year unless some light turns on. Even then I wouldn't really expect the Texans brass to sign him long term to a big contract. My best guess would be he's going to have to decide how much he likes Houston this year and talk with Kubiak to see where his place would be.

Far as Okam goes I think he'll be better then most suspect. I think his roles at UT have been mixed between Gene Chizik and Duane Akina(looking forward to what Muschamp will do) . Do I think he'll start probably not this year but I think he'll make a impact.

Lucky
05-20-2008, 07:46 PM
Do I think he'll start probably not this year but I think he'll make a impact.
I don't know, I think it might make sense to "start" Okam. Seeing that the start of the game is 1st down and a run/pass down. Okam is a DT I would like to see on run downs, and I'd like to see Okoye on the field for passing downs. I'm not saying they shouldn't play Okoye on 1st down at all, just limit the number of snaps so he's fresh to rush the passer. The whole starter thing is overrated when Okoye, TJ, and Okam all rotate.

Rex King
05-20-2008, 08:17 PM
Yeah, I think the point is, whatever you label C.Taylor, he needs to make this team. If that means he's one of four TBs on the roster and we only have one FB, then fine. With the injury history of Chris Brown and AGreen, they can't cut him loose.

My bet is, if everyone makes it out of camp healthy, Taylor will be one of four HBs on the roster, we'll keep one FB, and, John Abbate will be on the practice squad for insurance.

Perhaps. With the drafting of Slaton, I thought Taylor might be tried at FB again, but more along the lines of a two-back backfield, called Pony or Rocket in this article:

Offenses building backfield packages to challenge defenses (http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=68D83405C840A82B72B6150F8BAAB79A? id=09000d5d8083bda6&template=with-video&confirm=true)
"We have the players to utilize a pony backfield package now, and we know the threat of the reverse by the speed back off the inside zone play and even a QB bootleg will hold the outside defenders and give us a front we can block to keep the running game moving down the field," said one head coach. "If teams still commit to the run then we feel our speed back gets the matchup we will take advantage of in the passing game."

IIRC most of our bootlegs last year came from one-back sets. A lot of teams had a DE spy on Schaub, and snifffed it out. Now imagine Slaton + whoever back there, with Slaton rolling out to the same side as Schaub or immediately going into a route. If the D were in man coverage, the WLB would have to pick through trash to cover Slaton. If they play zone, he'd be one-on-one with a DE. In either case, the spy couldn't zero in on Schaub. There are a lot of other scenarios - Slaton in motion, etc.

Technically, the second back would be lining up as a FB, although he'd be utilized as a TB. I guess that would apply to anyone lining up with Slaton.

ObsiWan
05-20-2008, 09:15 PM
Taylor at FB? He doesn't look anything like a FB. Did McFly, I mean McClain, ask that question?

Can't blame that one on McClain, he's still vacationing in France I believe.

Maybe they left the gates open and Justice snuck in.
:D

barrett
05-21-2008, 12:16 PM
I don't hate the guy, but I see people say he was running around making plays, and I wonder "where was that happening at?" So by all means, I would love to know games that he completely dominated and took over last year.

EDIT : After reading that it seems snarky and assholish, but honestly, I didn't see all this great play that Johnson was making last season. His contract year is going to be interesting none the less.

i'm not the best person to site specific games and specific plays because well, to be honest, my memory is sh!t. but i have season tickets and i go to all the games, i feel like he's a play maker but perhaps in the sense of effort and attacking the play. he made alot of plays on the sidelines at or near the line of scrimmage. for a DT to be out there by the numbers making plays is a big deal.

i know he doesn't get the sacks but he makes plays. and i remember him making big tackles on run plays. he's not a big guy that blocks two guys. he's more squirrly and spins out of blocks and dives at a guy and brings him down-type of guy.

perhaps dalemurphy could site specific instances since he has nothing better to do but log this stuff away.

Lucky
05-21-2008, 01:07 PM
Can't blame that one on McClain, he's still vacationing in France I believe.
Right. It was Megan Manfull (http://blogs.chron.com/gamedaytexans/2008/05/for_now_taylor_not_being_looke.html).

nero THE zero
05-21-2008, 01:10 PM
Dale Murphy posts on this board!? :D

vtech9
05-22-2008, 01:41 AM
I wonder if TJ's injury could be a sports hernia like ole Bennie Joppru had. We all know how that turned out.

barrett
05-22-2008, 03:56 AM
Dale Murphy posts on this board!? :D

only when he can get his chubby little arms to rest on his belly, and getting those chubby little fingers to rest on the right keys... goodness.

Vinny
05-22-2008, 12:36 PM
...and the other times he brings it COMPLETELY upon himself. He played w/ the spirit of a rented mule his first season.

he got beat like one too. :whip: :spit:

HOU-TEX
05-23-2008, 10:55 AM
Can somebody hook me up with a direct link to the 'Day 4 OTA Transcripts' on HT.com? It's locking me up everytime I attempt to click on it.

Thanks :)

Ole Miss Texan
05-23-2008, 11:31 AM
Travis played much better last year and showed significant improvement. His play in the past hasn't warranted his selection in the top half of the 1st round. They say there's typically a 3 year learning curve for the DL until they really get the hang of things. I think TJ became a lot more comfortable with the defense this year and I think he'll continue to provide solid play. Not great by any means like we want, but I did see him play with more of a fire last year and seemed to be more places than he would be in the past. I don't think he'll ever make the pro bowl on our roster because he probably won't see the playing time it takes to get there. Okoye will and we'll have that run stuffer next to him instead of TJ (hopefully Okam pans out quickly).

I think at worst, TJ is a great back up to have behind Okoye. He's not what we need next to AO, so we should have a good rotation between the two with Okoye seeing the majority of the snaps.

Lucky
05-23-2008, 11:35 AM
Can somebody hook me up with a direct link to the 'Day 4 OTA Transcripts' on HT.com?
Day 4 OTA transcript (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4334)

mussop
05-23-2008, 02:05 PM
Travis played much better last year and showed significant improvement. His play in the past hasn't warranted his selection in the top half of the 1st round. They say there's typically a 3 year learning curve for the DL until they really get the hang of things. I think TJ became a lot more comfortable with the defense this year and I think he'll continue to provide solid play. Not great by any means like we want, but I did see him play with more of a fire last year and seemed to be more places than he would be in the past. I don't think he'll ever make the pro bowl on our roster because he probably won't see the playing time it takes to get there. Okoye will and we'll have that run stuffer next to him instead of TJ (hopefully Okam pans out quickly).

I think at worst, TJ is a great back up to have behind Okoye. He's not what we need next to AO, so we should have a good rotation between the two with Okoye seeing the majority of the snaps.

TJ made a huge jump last year. I really expect him to have his best year this year. With the emergence of Wiliams and hopefully an improved Okoye, TJ will come into his own and this will be the year he warrants his first round selection. Like you said, there is a three year learning curve for DT's. Remember TJ got hurt his second year.

I sure hope people dont get down on Okam if he isnt the second coming of Gilbert Brown in his first year. Expectations already seem high. Remember like they say, there's typically a 3 year learning curve for the DL until they really get the hang of things.

Realistically TJ will get most of the snaps this year with Okam coming of the bench replacing Okoye in short yardage and goaline situations. I would really like to see Okoye move over to DE in those situations.

beerlover
05-23-2008, 02:31 PM
I hated the TJ pick (05) & still do. his bone headed decisions on/off the field do not warrent a contract extension with this team.

Excatly how many pre-Kubiak players reamain on the Texans anyway?

mussop
05-23-2008, 03:50 PM
I hated the TJ pick (05) & still do. his bone headed decisions on/off the field do not warrent a contract extension with this team.

Excatly how many pre-Kubiak players reamain on the Texans anyway?

His bone headed decisions on/off the field? Pleasse explain.

Maddict5
05-23-2008, 04:31 PM
I hated the TJ pick (05) & still do. his bone headed decisions on/off the field do not warrent a contract extension with this team.

Excatly how many pre-Kubiak players reamain on the Texans anyway?

thats a pretty ridiculous post that i wouldnt expect from you

he got mad at trent green.. thats it- everybody makes mistakes. and dont even try and use the colts game against him

as to your question, we have 6/7 starters (AJ, Chester, Weary possibly, TJ, Morlon, Dunta, CC) plus kris brown too i guess.. which is bad but not horrible

the probable contribution to the 53 man roster of the old regime players is however: off the top of my head, the only ones i cant think of are cochran, breuner, petey and earl.. thats 11/53 and petey and possibly earl are doubtful to even make that

barrett
05-23-2008, 04:54 PM
TJ made a huge jump last year. I really expect him to have his best year this year. With the emergence of Wiliams and hopefully an improved Okoye, TJ will come into his own and this will be the year he warrants his first round selection.

...

Realistically TJ will get most of the snaps this year with Okam coming of the bench replacing Okoye in short yardage and goaline situations. I would really like to see Okoye move over to DE in those situations.

i like the way he played last year. i agree he'll be better as the rest of the line improves as you've said. I don't see him "playing like a #1 pick" but i think he'll show he's a good football player and warrant a new contract.

to be honest, he may not want a new contract here. he's been in the dog house (somewhat self inflicted and somewhat unfair) since he's been here. he seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't mind going somewhere else. for a fresh start.

for me personally I hope that he does want to be here and I hope we renew his contract as well. that is, assuming he plays as well or better than he did last year.

did anyone here about weaver maybe playing some inside like he did for the ravens?

76Texan
05-23-2008, 05:12 PM
did anyone here about weaver maybe playing some inside like he did for the ravens?He was saying something like that on HT.com so maybe something is in the work??

cuppacoffee
05-23-2008, 10:59 PM
thats a pretty ridiculous post that i wouldnt expect from you

he got mad at trent green.. thats it- everybody makes mistakes. and dont even try and use the colts game against him

as to your question, we have 6/7 starters (AJ, Chester, Weary possibly, TJ, Morlon, Dunta, CC) plus kris brown too i guess.. which is bad but not horrible

the probable contribution to the 53 man roster of the old regime players is however: off the top of my head, the only ones i cant think of are cochran, breuner, petey and earl.. thats 11/53 and petey and possibly earl are doubtful to even make that


The mistake was Greens ..:worm:.in going for TJs knees... :mad:
TJ was within his rights the following day when he unloaded on Green.
Tell it like it is Travis.

:coffee:

Allstar
05-24-2008, 12:03 AM
The mistake was Greens ..:worm:.in going for TJs knees... :mad:
TJ was within his rights the following day when he unloaded on Green.
Tell it like it is Travis.

:coffee:

He unloaded on Green right after the game, and then apologized five minutes later.

barrett
05-24-2008, 01:04 PM
not to mention he didn't know that Green had a concussion. he just knew that he had been blocked illegally and was upset.

and yes... proceeded to say he was sorry after his comments.

OzzO
05-27-2008, 05:23 PM
Some good words (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4341) of HT.com. A swoop cheer?

WR Jacoby Jones

..(on how things have changed from his rookie season) “I’m more comfortable. I know how to practice now, and the game’s a lot slower than when I first walked in the door.”....


LB DeMeco Ryans
(on the linebackers’ “swoop” cheer) “That is our playmaker breakdown. Every day we break it down on playmakers because, as linebackers, we feel like we have to be big-time playmakers out there on the field.”

...(on the progress of DT Amobi Okoye) “Amobi will be ready this year. He’ll step up and he’ll play a lot. He had a lot on his shoulders last year, coming in. I think he tried to do a little too much, and we have a lot of guys on our defensive line rotating in and out so he doesn’t have to do as much. He can go in and work and get somebody to come in and work for him. Keeping fresh guys in there is going to help him out and help the whole defensive line out a lot.”

...(on LB Zac Diles) “Zac’s doing good. It’s a different role for him, a different position. He had to come in and learn a different position, which is kind of difficult. In our linebacker group, you have to be able to play all three positions because you never know how many linebackers you are going to take in the game. You have to be able to play all three positions. All of the guys are learning two positions, which makes them more versatile and makes us more deep as a unit. All of us are the same body type, so we don’t have a prototypical SAM linebacker. All of us can run and are athletic guys.”

...(on the importance of the pass rush) “We’re working on that more as a linebacker group. On the blitz, we are working on our pass rush a lot more. We’re just cutting things down to where we get good at certain things. With our defensive line, Mario (Williams) is definitely getting better, coming off the ball a lot better. They’re going to have to put two on Mario, so that’s going to open up somebody else on the other side.”

QB Matt Schaub

...(on how hard it is to get in a rhythm offensively while rotating running backs) “I don’t think it’s too hard because (in) our running game, you should be able to plug anyone in there and the holes should be there and they should just all run the same. Some guys have a little more burst, obviously, and have a different running style, but otherwise, things are still the same. So no matter who we put in there, we have confidence in all of them that they can go in there and do the job.”

...(on WR Jacoby Jones) “Jacoby’s made a huge step. He’s more mature. He’s more comfortable in the system and knowing what his route adjustments are and what his footwork is and his splits and just everything. Last year, his head was spinning a little bit like any rookie’s would be, but he’s really on top of his stuff and he’s catching the ball. He’s confident in what he’s doing and having a great camp.”

(on if WR Jacoby Jones is more than a deep threat) “Oh, definitely. He’s more than just a deep threat. He’s got fast-twitch muscles and he can stop on a dime; he can come out of his breaks and he can catch the ball. He’s got a lot of athleticism.”

(on working with assistant head coach/offense Alex Gibbs) “It’s been great. I was with him for a few years there in Atlanta, so I know his coaching style, know what he expects and so it’s just been great to have him out here, a familiar voice from my past.”

(on if Gibbs is like a “mad scientist”) “I can see that. That’s actually a pretty good analogy. He is. But the thing is, he’s not cooking up new stuff. He just keeps re-cooking his old formulas up and they keep working, so everyone’s buying into it and we’re getting some production.

Rex King
05-27-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm excited for JJ's prospects to emerge not just as a deep threat but as a receiver like Brandon Marshall, a guy who can make the first defender miss and get a lot of YACs.

cuppacoffee
05-27-2008, 10:51 PM
He unloaded on Green right after the game, and then apologized five minutes later.

I was thinking it was the following day when he dropped the f bomb on Green.

Either way, TJ was right and Green should have apologized for going for TJs knees.

If TJ had pulled a Haynesworth and tried to stomp Greens face, then an apology would have been warranted.

Again JMHO.


:coffee:

Wolf
05-29-2008, 01:56 PM
NFL network scrolled at bottom of screen that Green hasn't been in the OTA's because of food poisoning ...but haven't seen a link yet

rollinstone18
05-29-2008, 02:10 PM
NFL network scrolled at bottom of screen that Green hasn't been in the OTA's because of food poisoning ...but haven't seen a link yet

Kubiak was quoted on ht.com (http://houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4343) saying the same thing.

(on RB Ahman Green missing practice) “He’s sick. He was really sick this morning and he came in and we took him to the doctor. We think he may have food poisoning. But he’s fine.”

PapaL
05-29-2008, 02:12 PM
I read it somewhere this morning as well.

PapaL
05-29-2008, 02:14 PM
As taken from the chron; Link (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5806821.html):


Ahman Green missed the team's workout Wednesday with a possible case of food poisoning.

"He's sick," coach Gary Kubiak said. "He was really sick this morning, and he came in and we took him to the doctor. We think he may have food poisoning. But he's fine."