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AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:07 PM
Yeah baby Go TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SmoochyTX
12-12-2004, 03:07 PM
Woooohooooo!!!!!!!!

:coolb:

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:07 PM
Nice play by Matt "Guitar" Murphy.....



TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!

Vinny
12-12-2004, 03:07 PM
Woo hoo!! some nice blocking and a great run by Dom.

TexSon
12-12-2004, 03:07 PM
Wow... Davis is an absolute stud today.

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:07 PM
Could this be Davis' best game yet?

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:08 PM
DD continues to impress. Gotta give it to the line too....they're opening some stuff for him.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:08 PM
Murphy killed Freeny on that block with the pass to Billy (Loved it!)

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:08 PM
Vinny, what do you think this is we're seeing?

Are the Colts this bad at run defense? Is the Texans offensive line finally opening holes (and is it because they're playing better or because he opposition is worse?), Is Davis running harder and doing a better job spotting and attacking the lanes?

Dime
12-12-2004, 03:08 PM
NOW! I dont want to hear **** about play calling... that was excellently called the ENTIRE drive... Good show.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-12-2004, 03:08 PM
good to see DD having a great game

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:09 PM
YEEAAAHH!!!! C'mon D-FENSE!!!!! Let's get that ball back!!!

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:09 PM
Vinny, what do you think this is we're seeing?

Are the Colts this bad at run defense? Is the Texans offensive line finally opening holes (and is it because they're playing better or because he opposition is worse?), Is Davis running harder and doing a better job spotting and attacking the lanes?

To me it looks like he is being more patient and waiting for the lanes to open up (I don't care if the opposition is that bad or not) He's doing his thing today.

Fiddy
12-12-2004, 03:10 PM
NOW! I dont want to hear **** about play calling... that was excellently called the ENTIRE drive... Good show.I still would like to see AJ get a catch idonno:

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:11 PM
fiddy, I think we all would. They'll get it to him before its over, he'll have a good play or two.

bckey
12-12-2004, 03:11 PM
Finally a drive that mixed it up and ended with a td. Looked good.

Keldar
12-12-2004, 03:11 PM
I still would like to see AJ get a catch idonno:

If they win AJ will continue humbly. If they lose we may start hearing some grumblings from him.

Vinny
12-12-2004, 03:11 PM
Vinny, what do you think this is we're seeing?

Are the Colts this bad at run defense? Is the Texans offensive line finally opening holes (and is it because they're playing better or because he opposition is worse?), Is Davis running harder and doing a better job spotting and attacking the lanes?
We are blocking well. Davis is 100% healthy (I'm sorry but he is not the same back when he has slight nicks), and the Colts are a much better unit when they make teams one-dimensional. We are sticking to our game plan....good coaching (but nobody wants to hear that).

We can win this game. Need the D to step up and shock the world.

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:13 PM
LMAO@ doubleteam on Peek. He's affecting them.

Fertguy
12-12-2004, 03:13 PM
I think its a combination of a healthy Dom and enough time between a 4 fumble, two game stretch.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:14 PM
Manning is lying his a** off he's not thinking about getting that record. Be real about it, Manning. Leon would be. :rofl:

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:14 PM
Look at the Baire show up! Nice.

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:15 PM
Robaire just swallowed up the Edge!

Fertguy
12-12-2004, 03:16 PM
Manning is lying his a** off he's not thinking about getting that record. Be real about it, Manning. Leon would be. :rofl:

I think Marino would trade the record for some jewelry... Pretty sure Peyton would, too.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:16 PM
GOOD JOB DEFNENSE!!!! yeah, I think Peek got in their heads.

Keldar
12-12-2004, 03:17 PM
Why is the field ALWAYS muddy and crummy looking???? Do we not have a retractable roof????

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:17 PM
Biggest thing right now is NO TURNOVERS....not way back at the 10...

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:17 PM
I think Marino would trade the record for some jewelry... Pretty sure Peyton would, too.

Yeah, that is a very good point.

Fiddy
12-12-2004, 03:19 PM
There is my boy AJ!!!!!!!!

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:19 PM
David needs to slow it down some when he approaches the line of scrimmage, give teh receivers a second or two to make something happen.


FINALLY another pass to AJ!

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:19 PM
Uh, nice nose ring...?

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:19 PM
'bout time they got AJ the ball

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:20 PM
Heads up play by Carr, maybe one of his best mental plays this year.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:22 PM
We need someone to step up right here and make a big play on this third down so we can move down the field and tie or even better take the league.

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:22 PM
Seems like the Colts are starting to bring a safety up to help with run support. Might be time to open teh passing attack.

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:23 PM
They're starting to lock up Davis. Guess they've had enough of that for one day.

I think we're now going to see if this means Carr has some options downfield and has the ability to make those shots count. The weight of the game has been on Davis shoulders so far and he's done his duty. I don't think we're done seeing him but Carr's going to have to take some of that now. I hope he's ready to take the load.

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:23 PM
Where's the little Now Route to AJ??

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-12-2004, 03:24 PM
first down AJ!

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:24 PM
Where's the little Now Route to AJ??

right there

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:24 PM
Keep moving those sticks!!!!

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:24 PM
Hellified play by AJ!

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:25 PM
Good effort by Wells

Vinny
12-12-2004, 03:26 PM
Wand was used on that play.

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:26 PM
Well, didn't matter whether Carr was ready for that weight or not. The line still can't pass protect worth a damned.

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:27 PM
Freeney abuses another Texan. That was rough.

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:27 PM
We're going to need the defense to get heroic here in order to win this.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:27 PM
Bad QB protection right there.

Lucky
12-12-2004, 03:28 PM
Freeney shouldn't be able to bull rush Wand. Inexcusable.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:28 PM
that was just good D by freeney, look at the positive side, we got field position, if our D can step up and makybe get a 3 & out we'll have the ball on about the 50 :bguitar: (Hopefully, Wishful thinking) :bouncey:

shinerbock_girl
12-12-2004, 03:28 PM
Thats all they need...GIVE THE BALL BACK TO PEYTON!!!!!...GOSHHHH....

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:28 PM
We're going to need the defense to get heroic here in order to win this.

Agreed. I think we don't win now without a forced turnover or a very short drive right here...

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:28 PM
Freeney is what 6'3'' 270 and Wand is like 6'6'' 330??

the wonger need food
12-12-2004, 03:29 PM
Another offensive implosion.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:30 PM
Another offensive implosion.

I can't take it anymore do you have atleast 1 positive thing ot say? You stay quiet the entire game until something bad happens.

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:30 PM
Nice contain there by Babin

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:31 PM
They brought three. Why bother. that was absolutely *****ic

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:32 PM
Dammit Faggins, find the ball!

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:32 PM
Faggins never saw it

Vinny
12-12-2004, 03:33 PM
It was a great pass.

Dime
12-12-2004, 03:34 PM
Interception.. My prediction...

Texas_Heat
12-12-2004, 03:34 PM
If they lose it's because of Carr.

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:34 PM
Penalty before the throw, but they throw the flag after the play ended.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:35 PM
Penalty before the throw, but they throw the flag after the play ended.

good point :hmmm:

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:35 PM
Dodge a bullet there.

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:35 PM
9 minutes to go, we need a stop!

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:37 PM
We desperately need a stop. We need a pick or a fumble. Somehow the defense has to take this game in thier hands and get the ball. Another Colts TD really starts to bury the Texans at this point.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-12-2004, 03:38 PM
good stop Babin!

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:38 PM
Yes, great play by Babin

SmoochyTX
12-12-2004, 03:38 PM
Way to go defense! Yeah Babin!

Vinny
12-12-2004, 03:38 PM
The Babinator

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:38 PM
JASON BABIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Big @$$ play right there.

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:38 PM
Another offensive implosion! :rofl:

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:40 PM
Another offensive implosion! :rofl:


LOL

I havn;t been this excited in teh 4 quater of a Texans game in quite awhile.

Fiddy
12-12-2004, 03:40 PM
We have got to score a TD on this drive. Time for the big uglies to step up...

the wonger need food
12-12-2004, 03:41 PM
Nice stop. What will the O do???

shinerbock_girl
12-12-2004, 03:41 PM
Now just a TD for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:41 PM
That will do. Now the offense is up. We need 7 and they have to suck it up and go get it. Why do you guys think Wells was in there running on that last series at the end? I was trying to figure out why that wasn't Davis. I hope he hasn't dinged something up again.

Dime
12-12-2004, 03:41 PM
If the Texans stop Manning from getting the record... It will be HUGE.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-12-2004, 03:41 PM
17 yd return for Todd Washington. LMAO

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:41 PM
Woo. If that's Santa, I want to sit in Santa's lap!

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:41 PM
Damn Moses better watch his back, Washington is pushing hard for his job!

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:42 PM
hehehehehehe. Todd Washington needs to be the new goaling FB.

It's the best NExtel commerical. EVER!

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:42 PM
HE'S RUMBLIN! HE'S TUMBLIN! HE'S BUMBLIN!

I love it when the big guys get the ball and try to run with it. Always good fun and I always think of Chris Berman.

Lucky
12-12-2004, 03:43 PM
I'm seeing a KR contraversy here. :)

shinerbock_girl
12-12-2004, 03:43 PM
This is one time i'd say, PLEASEEEE GIVE THE BALL TO DD!!!!!!!!!!!!

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:43 PM
It's the best NExtel commerical. EVER!

I die laughing every time i see that commercial too. Its hilarious

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:43 PM
A lineman running back a kick? BRILLIANT! :coolb:

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:44 PM
Does Palmer not understand that the tone of the game has changed? The Colts aren't going to let Davis go buck wild on them in the 4th

TexSon
12-12-2004, 03:46 PM
I see our Oline still cannot stop anybody when it matters.

the wonger need food
12-12-2004, 03:46 PM
Another offensive implosion. Carr is not the answer to anyone's question.

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:46 PM
This is insane. That sack was a direct result of that stupid run on first down. This is inflexibility and an inability to understand that the game has changed. Dammit I'm angry now.

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:46 PM
This Colts D has a knack for 3rd-down sacks today.

shinerbock_girl
12-12-2004, 03:46 PM
That is sooo sad to lose the ball that fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vinny
12-12-2004, 03:47 PM
Does Palmer not understand that the tone of the game has changed? The Colts aren't going to let Davis go buck wild on them in the 4thIt works better than Sacks and INT's.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:47 PM
The Colts Are Not That Good. Stop Making Them Look That Way

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:47 PM
Now I'm not so excited. Is Palmer unable to to change his plays to match teh flow of the game and what the opposing D is giving him?

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:47 PM
We're getting into 3rd and long situations at the worst possible time. Yes, there's a point where you coach smart and stay with your gameplan. Great, Fine, you did that Palmer you friggin monkey! Now adapt!

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:47 PM
Another 3 and out in the 4th qtr.

Dime
12-12-2004, 03:48 PM
This is insane. That sack was a direct result of that stupid run on first down. This is inflexibility and an inability to understand that the game has changed. Dammit I'm angry now.

No.... Carr had some time! He has to know he needed to do a 3 or 5 step drop. That was ALL Carr. The O-Line cannot protect forever. Yes, they need to do a better job, but that was ALL Carr!

Vinny
12-12-2004, 03:48 PM
We're getting into 3rd and long situations at the worst possible time. Yes, there's a point where you coach smart and stay with your gameplan. Great, Fine, you did that Palmer you friggin monkey! Now adapt!
It was 3rd and 2.

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:48 PM
We need a turnover, cmon D!!!!!!!!

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 03:48 PM
All I want for Christmas is a....cheerleader dressed like that!

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:48 PM
It works better than Sacks and INT's.

No, it clearly results in them. That was nothing but a stupid call. The Colts have been locking Davis down since the third quarter. They're not going to let him keep doing that and the Texans should know that. How much more obvious can it be. If they keep this up they're going to keep putting Carr in obvious 3rd and long situations until the game is over.

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:49 PM
The Colts don't run a ball-control offense. We have hope.

the wonger need food
12-12-2004, 03:49 PM
Pathetic Texans offense. The Colts are the worst ranked defense in the AFC.

At least Peyton won't get the record today.

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:49 PM
Glenn beaten by Harrison.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:49 PM
C'mon D-Fense!!!!!! :hairpull:

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:50 PM
beautiful tackle by Duntae!

Vinny
12-12-2004, 03:50 PM
No, it clearly results in them. That was nothing but a stupid call. The Colts have been locking Davis down since the third quarter. They're not going to let him keep doing that and the Texans should know that. How much more obvious can it be. If they keep this up they're going to keep putting Carr in obvious 3rd and long situations until the game is over.it was 3rd and 2

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:50 PM
Correct, call it obvious passing situations then. If it was 3rd and 2 and Palmer is still playing the "I'm going to beat you with Domanick Davis" game because he thinks that's the way to go then why didn't he run it? It's only two yards? He didn't run it because the Colts are shutting DD out now. But he ran it on 1st because....

Oh what the hell.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-12-2004, 03:50 PM
good pressure by Sharper

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:50 PM
Couple of nice defensive plays there...

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 03:50 PM
I love our defensive pressure on Manning

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:51 PM
Excellent play Sharper.

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:51 PM
And yet, 1st down

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:51 PM
Heckuva catch. Rats.

Texas_Heat
12-12-2004, 03:52 PM
If they lose please no one come on here and say what a great game it was itís not.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 03:52 PM
Correct, call it obvious passing situations then. If it was 3rd and 2 and Palmer is still playing the "I'm going to beat you with Domanick Davis" game because he thinks that's the way to go then why didn't he run it? It's only two yards? He didn't run it because the Colts are shutting DD out now. But he ran it on 1st because....

Oh what the hell.

Thank you Vinny, that was nicely put, apparently most of us are to ignorant to look at the big picture and get off the coaches back. Players have to execute bottom line.

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:52 PM
If they lose please no one come on here and say what a great game it was itís not.

No? I'm having fun watching this. Past the 1st quarter, it's been pretty good.

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:53 PM
Thank you Vinny, that was nicely put, apparently most of us are to ignorant to look at the big picture and get off the coaches back. Players have to execute bottom line.

Clearly some of us are watching another Texans game in an alternate reality.

Dime
12-12-2004, 03:54 PM
If they lose please no one come on here and say what a great game it was itís not.

Huh! not a great game. This is Payton Manning an the Colts... Where Manning is going for a record.... and we stopped them... Wake up man...

TexSon
12-12-2004, 03:55 PM
1st down... Ball Game.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:55 PM
i hope the rest of the season goes south for the Colts. looks like they have a tough schedule coming up. Ravens, Chargers, Broncos. I love our division, but go other guys.

the wonger need food
12-12-2004, 03:55 PM
gutless effort d

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-12-2004, 03:55 PM
that was terrible

shinerbock_girl
12-12-2004, 03:56 PM
Well at least we won't lose 49-14

Texas_Heat
12-12-2004, 03:56 PM
No? I'm having fun watching this. Past the 1st quarter, it's been pretty good.

I guess you like watching them blow games then, for me itís getting old. I saw the Oilers do that for years

midknight
12-12-2004, 03:56 PM
I think that is gonna do it for us.. our last time out... :-(

Lucky
12-12-2004, 03:58 PM
gutless effort d
What game have you been watching?

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 03:58 PM
The Texans D is holding the NFL's hottest offense to 20 points. That hasn't been done in a while. This loss is NOT on them. The first pick led to the TD that is the difference right now.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 03:59 PM
If they lose please no one come on here and say what a great game it was itís not.

I agree. Ws are what matter here. And it looks like another one is going to miss us. Just looked at the playoff picture. Though we still have a chance, this is it.

midknight
12-12-2004, 03:59 PM
The Texans D is holding the NFL's hottest offense to 20 points. That hasn't been done in a while. This loss is NOT on them. The first pick led to the TD that is the difference right now.
I have to agree withyou...

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 03:59 PM
We're done. We've basically held the Colts to 20 points (thus far) and failed to capitalize on it. The defense did their job today, the offense didn't. They had nothing else to go to once the Colts decided Davis wasn't going to run anymore.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 04:00 PM
These broads are gonna go for it.

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 04:00 PM
I guess you like watching them blow games then, for me itís getting old. I saw the Oilers do that for years

They're not "blowing" the game. They're losing a game in which they were supposed to get rolled. How can you blow a game where you never led and weren't the favorite?

midknight
12-12-2004, 04:00 PM
If vanderjagt makes this field goal... it's over... I know.. obvious, right?

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 04:01 PM
The D has played one of their best games ever, and with the exception of the Carr pick, the Offense ahs played above teh standard of ineptitude they set for themselves so far this year.

TexSon
12-12-2004, 04:01 PM
They had nothing else to go to once the Colts decided Davis wasn't going to run anymore.

It's that darn cover 2 Herv... there are 14 men on the field for the defense!

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 04:02 PM
AndreJ you're going to have to get used to people disagreeing with you. Opinions, both negative and positive make up this board and will continue to make up this board.

midknight
12-12-2004, 04:02 PM
and that's the ballgame!

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 04:02 PM
Was i the only one who watched the Cowboys of all people comeback and kill the seahawks, or did any of you see tracy mcgrady bring the rockets back to win against the spurs. You people give up to easy, keep faith all of this negativity is killing me!

shinerbock_girl
12-12-2004, 04:03 PM
We'd need a TD and just go for it in the en-zone

Texas_Heat
12-12-2004, 04:03 PM
They're not "blowing" the game. They're losing a game in which they were supposed to get rolled. How can you blow a game where you never led and weren't the favorite?

No they gave this game to the colts you can't see that.

rhc564
12-12-2004, 04:03 PM
They're not "blowing" the game. They're losing a game in which they were supposed to get rolled. How can you blow a game where you never led and weren't the favorite?
yeah, right--why play at all!!!!!!Suppose to lose, then lose...

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 04:04 PM
Todd Washington for KR!!! Did you see that spin move? You can't coach that kinda insict/talent.

TexSon
12-12-2004, 04:04 PM
The D has played one of their best games ever, and with the exception of the Carr pick, the Offense ahs played above teh standard of ineptitude they set for themselves so far this year.
Davis did. I'm not sure you can say the same for the rest of the offense. Carr has to be able to throw down the field- these 2 yard dumps to DD won't cut it for an entire game, and the Oline has to give him time to throw.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 04:04 PM
AndreJ you're going to have to get used to people disagreeing with you. Opinions, both negative and positive make up this board and will continue to make up this board.

I undersand that but at the same time im going to get my point across whether anyone agrees with me or not.

Dime
12-12-2004, 04:04 PM
I agree with AndreJ. 4 minutes left you all were giving up. Very sad.

Texas_Heat
12-12-2004, 04:05 PM
yeah, right--why play at all!!!!!!Suppose to lose, then lose...

I Agree with you

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 04:05 PM
They're not "blowing" the game. They're losing a game in which they were supposed to get rolled. How can you blow a game where you never led and weren't the favorite?

Easy, You stay in it until the third quarter when your defense holds the Colts to 20 or so points and then your offense fails to do anything in the 4th against the what? 31st ranked defense in the NFL?

The Colts are known far and wide for being all offense and squat for defense and yet we stopped that offense. We didn't have enough offense of our own to capitalize on it. That's how you blow a game in which you were supposed to get rolled.

For further information on blowing games in spite of the fact that you weren't supposed to win them see "TEXANS VS PACKERS"

RTP2110
12-12-2004, 04:05 PM
OMG Carr, throw it downfield!!!!

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 04:06 PM
OMG Carr, throw it downfield!!!!

Impossible. Davis isn't that fast and the o-line couldn't protect him that long anyway.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 04:06 PM
I want champioinships for all our pro teams in this great city. ESPECIALLY, in football.

Dime
12-12-2004, 04:06 PM
No they gave this game to the colts you can't see that.

Cant see what.. They didnt give c-r-a-p. Where do you all get this **** from.

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 04:08 PM
I undersand that but at the same time im going to get my point across whether anyone agrees with me or not.

You go man and get that point across. In return I'll refrain from calling you a moron for having it. Do the same for those who disagree with you.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 04:08 PM
The team with the #1 offense in the league scored 24 points on us, that was wonderful defense. Our offense needs to mature and step up bottom line. this was a great game.

TexanExile
12-12-2004, 04:09 PM
You're totally missing my point. If you want to gripe about them giving away a game, gripe about the Green Bay game. I don't disagree that Houston gave them a turnover that led to a critical Colts TD. But they started in a hole and nearly climbed out of it. Give them some credit, especially on defense.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 04:09 PM
What are the chances that Manning never gets the record???? :hmmm: That would be very funny.

ThaShark316
12-12-2004, 04:10 PM
Tough Loss to swallow...lets just go to CHI-TOWN and beat the bears...hopefully we do and win the 2 after that.

NederlandTexan
12-12-2004, 04:10 PM
29th ranked pass defense in the NFL and we don't throw one deep ball. That is ridiculous. :loser

GiovanniTexansFan
12-12-2004, 04:10 PM
Ok We Sucked Again But Played A Good Game..carr Is Not Up To His Game Yet..after 3 Years..come On.......he Should Be Better....hes No Aikman At 3 Years.....

Texas_Heat
12-12-2004, 04:11 PM
The team with the #1 offense in the league scored 24 points on us, that was wonderful defense. Our offense needs to mature and step up bottom line. this was a great game.


no it was not a great game it was the texans sucking at the end again.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 04:13 PM
29th ranked pass defense in the NFL and we don't throw one deep ball. That is ridiculous. :loser

That 29th ranked defense runs a cover 2 D, that Carr catches he!! with, he hasn't even finished his third year yet, if these problems continue next year then yes i believe we'll have some serious problems.

Texans Pride
12-12-2004, 04:13 PM
Playcalling, I still don't get it!

Aren't you supposed to use the sidelines instead of throwing it across the middle when you have two miinutes left and no time outs?

Shouldn't the players be RUNNING to the line of scrimmage instead of casualy walking?

Shouldn't they be trying to throw the ball downfield for some long bombs? Isn't that why we have Andre Johnson?

nunusguy
12-12-2004, 04:14 PM
Well at least we won't lose 49-14
You got it, it's a moral victory, and nothing more. We should be past that by now though.

Texas_Heat
12-12-2004, 04:16 PM
You got it, it's a moral victory, and nothing more. We should be past that by now though.


How is this a moral victory.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 04:16 PM
Playcalling, I still don't get it!

Aren't you supposed to use the sidelines instead of throwing it across the middle?

Shouldn't the players be RUNNING to the line of scrimmage instead of casualy walking?

Shouldn't they be trying to throw the ball downfield for some long bombs? Isn't that why we have Andre Johnson?

:shocked :hairpull: :thud: Looks like we'll have another year for playoff hopes. I hope in that time they draw up more pass plays.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 04:17 PM
How is this a moral victory.

For christ sakes man, the colts were expected to blow us out! The texans were never expected to win this game. And the defense did not let Manning break the record on us.

The.Houston.Titans
12-12-2004, 04:19 PM
Those fumbles could have been the difference in who won this game. One of them was a result of a challenge but the Colts still retained possession (why didn't the refs tell the Texans before they looked at the replay?) and the other fumble was by "The Edge", but luckily for the Colts one of their guys was heads up and jumped on it.

On a side note, I like the way Moses catches his returns (with his hands up above his head). It scares me a bit but I think it looks cool.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 04:19 PM
I would love it. At least Jughead didn't break it here. That hit the Robinson gave Manning was my favorite play of the game!

Loved it, as well. Maybe that's where he "stopped thinking" about the record.

Texas_Heat
12-12-2004, 04:20 PM
For christ sakes man, the colts were expected to blow us out! The texans were never expected to win this game. And the defense did not let Manning break the record on us.


So your happy that they only lost by 9 and not 29 Iím never happy when they give a game away.

Hervoyel
12-12-2004, 04:26 PM
The defense did all that was asked of them today and more. The offense blew their chance to put the Texans in the win column. Over the course of the season how many teams have kept the Colts in check like that? Over the last half of the season how many times has it happened? We stopped them in the third and held them to FG's after halftime. In return for that excellent performance our defense gets as it's reward the opportunity to watch the offense go out onto the field and stall over and over again. One good drive in the second half isn't going to cut it and to play that poorly against the Colts defense is inexcusable.

It must be terribly frustrating to play for our defense knowing that no matter how hard you try the game isn't going to be won unless you score yourself or hand the offense the ball inside the opponents 10 yard line.

I'm very mad at the offense right now. I have been for going on 5-6 weeks.

Vinny
12-12-2004, 04:28 PM
The defense did all that was asked of them today and more. The offense blew their chance to put the Texans in the win column. Over the course of the season how many teams have kept the Colts in check like that? Over the last half of the season how many times has it happened?We held them to their lowest point total of the season today. We played them better than anyone has defensively. I agree, our offense is horrible.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 04:28 PM
Somoene made a great point earlier. When your offense is doing that great the defense shouldn't have to do much. Well the person that said that was right. Our defense clearly was doing all that it could - Manning di not scor 6 points all of the 2nd half. Carr should have been getting the ball to Johnson, Wells, Miller, and Bradford more often to exploit that Colts defense even more - if I'm not mistaken isn't the Colts defense ranked close to last? Than have DD in to deliver that punch when they least expect it.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 04:29 PM
We held them to their lowest point total of the season today. We played them better than anyone has defensively. I agree, our offense is horrible.

IF the Jaguars can beat them, why can't we?

NederlandTexan
12-12-2004, 04:30 PM
That 29th ranked defense runs a cover 2 D, that Carr catches he!! with, he hasn't even finished his third year yet, if these problems continue next year then yes i believe we'll have some serious problems.
So when we face a team that plays cover 2D, we remove the deep threat from our game plan. Before this gets personal, I have supported the Texans and will continue to do so. But I don't understand or agree with 100% of their offensive and defensive play calls.

HoustonFan
12-12-2004, 04:38 PM
So when we face a team that plays cover 2D, we remove the deep threat from our game plan. Before this gets personal, I have supported the Texans and will continue to do so. But I don't understand or agree with 100% of their offensive and defensive play calls.

I think it's more on the offensive end, since they are the ones that need to be out there putting the most points on the board. WRs need to be utilize much more than they are. Defense needs to not leave guys wide open the way they do.

jriney8
12-12-2004, 04:40 PM
I'm sick of the overall feeling that this is an expansion team. We should be competing...no excuses. There are some very sketchy calls made by our offense, and David does not seem to step up in clutch situations. Sure, there might be pressure coming on big third downs....but he should not be taking so many crucial sacks. Any good quarterback finds ways to avoid this. 3rd and 2 and we put him in the shotgun formation for a 4 yard sack with very little left in the game?!?! When all we need is a few yards? How many times have we seen Dom go for it on 4th and 1? Why not gut it up the middle for a yard or two, and punch it through on 4th if we need to? It controls the clock, and keeps the drive going. Granted, our O-line folds in these situations, and Davis...he doesn't seem to do much of anything, with exception to today's game. I am a dedicated fan, but I'm sick of the weak performances and play calling on offense. Even when the offense does get going, we're barely keeping it going on a few big third downs. No confidence at all. I think in this situation, it's the quarterback and coaching's responsibilities to step this offense up. It's not happening. The defense does a great job in my opinion. Sure they give up some big plays on long third downs, but how much should we really expect out of them when they're on the field so much. I honestly think we need to make some serious changes this off-season. It's easy to say "Hey, this is only our third year, let's gradually build on it. Have patience." But we can't constantly keep looking forward to picking up rookies in the draft. We're not an expansion team anymore!

ItsDavidCarr
12-12-2004, 04:41 PM
Good Grief, Texans!!!!! We almost had em!!!! Oh well, I'm STILL pretty! :jumpbanan

IndyColtsBabe
12-12-2004, 04:43 PM
I would love it. At least Jughead didn't break it here. The hit that Robinson gave Manning was my favorite play of the game!

Okay, well first, good game guys...it's been a while since the Colts have had a dogfight like that and I think we needed to remember what that's like to prepare for the playoffs. Second, in response to this comment, do you really think Peyton wanted to break the record today? I'm sorry but if you think he wanted to break it in Texas in front of all of YOUR fans then you are wrong. He would have, if the game had been a shootout and we needed the points, but Peyton wants to break the record in his stadium with his fans. I can guarantee you that every Colts fan is gladly taking a small victory over a blowout to see Peyton break the record next week here in Indy where it should be broken. Now, for all of the slack that Indy's D catches, I really feel that it was Indy's offense that didn't show up today. I'm not sure I want to think of what this game would have been like without Freeny or Mathis. I'm not entirely sure that the offense was just having an off day (which happens to the best of them from time to time) or if Dungy was just trying to do the least he had to do to win the game so Colts fans could see him break the record. I'm sure it could be a little bit of both. Colts offense wasn't at its best and Dungy's playcalling was definitely not the norm. Also, some of you guys still seem to be really upset about the whole "running up the score" thing. I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Our "running up the score" was more of a compliment to you than anything else. It meant that Dungy wasn't confident that you guys couldn't still make a come back. If he thought there was no chance he'd have pulled Peyton just like he did in the following three games against Chicago, Detroit, and Tennessee. At any rate, it's time to let it go. We'll see what happens next year but, for now, let bygones be bygones. Dungy is one of the classiest coaches in the league. He wouldn't have run the score up unless he thought there was a chance you could still beat him. I really thought it was a compliment to what your offense was capable of. Anyway, good game, better luck next year, and now I'm off to pray for the playoffs. We have a really tough road ahead of us. Congrats, again, on a really good game. :bouncey:

WWJD
12-12-2004, 04:54 PM
I must admit that I expected the Colts to win by at least 2 touchdown's or more so in that respect I think the Texans should be commended for keeping the game as close as it was.

By the same token they had plenty of opportunity to win and did not so a moral victory means nothing.

The Texans have some obvious problems. I'm hoping they can put together a more complete game next week.

p-money
12-12-2004, 05:07 PM
good game texans, way to get after manning. you guys need to play like that every week and then you will be a playoff team, really you guys should know peyton isnt about breaking records hes about winning. at the end he didnt try to pad his stats by throwing, he just handed it off. he actually checked off to running plays a few times on passing downs toward the end of the game. congrats on a great game and game plan and on holding the colts offense to the lowest point total of the year. good luck on the rest of the year and dont hate on peyton because he is good, you texan fans have no reason to hate manning. he is a class act and will set a ton of records before he hangs up the cleats and god willing win a ring or 2.

Texan Gal 312
12-12-2004, 07:28 PM
While Carr did not play great today..

good to great offensive lines make average quarterbacks look great (some have even won superbowls) ...average to bad offensive lines make even great quarterbacks look terrible.

To me it looked like they were going for the big play on the 3rd and 2 call. Max protect (7guys) they ran two streaks up the sidelines and Andre up the middle. Andre fell down. 7 guys blocking 4 gave Carr about 2 seconds.

Carr had zero time to pass the ball all day.

AndreJ
12-12-2004, 08:05 PM
well put texan gal

CrumplerFan
12-12-2004, 08:32 PM
Second, in response to this comment, do you really think Peyton wanted to break the record today? I'm sorry but if you think he wanted to break it in Texas in front of all of YOUR fans then you are wrong.

That he breaks the record is without question and it's a moment that doesn't matter because "this" new record will be broken again only 1 week later.

Manning is gunning for close to 60, not only for 49.


I want to add, that imo the Texans defense played a very, very good game. I didn't understand, why there was only one fumble by Manning and that recovered by the Colts, but anyway. Pressure, good plays against the run, passion, heart,everything I didn't expect.

It was the last game of the Texans this season i could see this year, and i feared it would be a blowout. The Texans put up a good fight and stopped Manning, punished him.

You have my Respect, even if it won't help anyway.

Errant Hothy
12-12-2004, 10:56 PM
What do David Carr, Bradford, Orr, Brown, Earl and Moran Norris all have in common toady?

Lucky
12-12-2004, 10:59 PM
maybe leftwich is a much better QB than carr is?
Carr is 2-0 lifetime against Leftwich. How do you figure that?

jriney8
12-13-2004, 12:09 AM
Lucky.....How can you honestly say that a quarterback comparison is determined on their head to head record. That is the most ignorant thing I've heard all week. You're telling me..that since Carr is 2-0 when facing the Jags with Byron...that he's a better quarterback? Give me a break. I'm a HUGE dedicated fan of the Texans, but let's be realistic here. In my opinion, Byron has done more this year to prove he's better. He's clutch. And that's probably one of the greatest determinants of a solid QB. Is Carr clutch? Hardly. When we need a big 3rd down conversion...90% of the time he takes a sack. Granted, there's more to that than Carr not doing his job, but good QB's find ways to avoid the big sack. It's that simple. Your head to head analysis is in my opinion not significant.