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NitroGSXR
05-06-2008, 07:55 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4301

Down at the bottom of the page, it says...

Click here (http://cdn3.libsyn.com/houstontexans/May5_TexansToday.mp3) for exclusive information from general manager Rick Smith about the Texans' plans to acquire a defensive end from Monday's “Texans Today” podcast.

Can someone translate/transcribe!? PLEASE!? Deaf guy here so listening to the PodCast isn't exactly something that I can do!

Defensive end???? Who? What plans? 'Plans to acquire' sure sounds like a TRADE brewing somehow!

Drew_Smoke
05-06-2008, 08:00 PM
He was saying he's doing his homework and hoping to get lucky for another DE. Undrafted guy or even someone from the waiver wire I am sure is what he meant.

AnthonyE
05-06-2008, 08:06 PM
He was saying he's doing his homework and hoping to get lucky for another DE. Undrafted guy or even someone from the waiver wire I am sure is what he meant.

Yeah, that's probably what he meant but that key word "acquire" is very intriguing.

kiwitexansfan
05-06-2008, 08:11 PM
Good find Nitro!!

Here comes Jason Taylor........

:pigfly:

TEXANRED
05-06-2008, 08:12 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4301

Down at the bottom of the page, it says...



Can someone translate/transcribe!? PLEASE!? Deaf guy here so listening to the PodCast isn't exactly something that I can do!

Defensive end???? Who? What plans? 'Plans to acquire' sure sounds like a TRADE brewing somehow!

He said they will continue to grind and find that diamond in the rough. They would have liked to of added that undersized pass rusher in the draft but he likes the team and the football players. Says the team is much improved and ND Kalu was one of the better pass rushers last year.

Sounds like he likes he team as is to me.

ATXtexanfan
05-06-2008, 08:14 PM
still can't believe we didn't draft a DE, i believe smith will find one though

Texans_Chick
05-06-2008, 08:16 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4301

Down at the bottom of the page, it says...



Can someone translate/transcribe!? PLEASE!? Deaf guy here so listening to the PodCast isn't exactly something that I can do!

Defensive end???? Who? What plans? 'Plans to acquire' sure sounds like a TRADE brewing somehow!


NitroHonda. I have to say that even as a hearing person, I'm not a big fan of the podcast. Too much of a pain for not much value. I personally like it better when they have video content with also a written transcript. Especially for something as innocuous as saying, "we're looking for a defensive end opposite Mario" Duh.

I suggest contacting the Houston Texans, and politely letting them know that you prefer the videos with the written transcripts. Here is their contact information (http://www.houstontexans.com/about/ContactUs.asp).

Texans_Chick
05-06-2008, 08:19 PM
still can't believe we didn't draft a DE, i believe smith will find one though

Given that we had only 5 draft picks prior to the start of the draft, we are lucky to have who we've got. There was no sense drafting a DE low if he wasn't better than who the Texans already have on the roster.

For example, I am REALLY happy with the Okam pick in the 5th round because I think: a. he was a good value in that spot and b. that is a need of the team that may not be obvious to some, but a big body is pretty important when you play in a division that has two teams that very much emphasize running the ball.

D-ReK
05-06-2008, 08:20 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4301

Down at the bottom of the page, it says...



Can someone translate/transcribe!? PLEASE!? Deaf guy here so listening to the PodCast isn't exactly something that I can do!

Defensive end???? Who? What plans? 'Plans to acquire' sure sounds like a TRADE brewing somehow!

Text transcription

Brooke Bentley: Who will the Texans get to rush the passer opposite Mario Williams? GM Rick Smith gives us some clues. But first, Texans All-Access is on Thursday, May 29th, at Reliant Stadium. This event is for all Texans season ticket holders and sponsors, and will feature the entire Texans 2008 team and cheerleading squad. For more information, go to houstontexans.com.
GM Rick Smith has just finished drafting 7 rookies and signing a handful of free agents, but he is not done putting together his team. Smith is in the market for a defensive end to play opposite Mario Williams. Here's what he had to say about his prospects.

Rick Smith: We will continue to grind, and to try and see if we can find that diamond in the rough, as they say. I think our football team has improved, and we would have liked to have added this undersized pass rusher that we didn't get, but I think we've got some quality players on our team. I think that N.D. Kalu was one of our better pass rushers last year, so I think we'll be fine.

NitroGSXR
05-06-2008, 08:25 PM
Text transcription

Brooke Bentley: Who will the Texans get to rush the passer opposite Mario Williams? GM Rick Smith gives us some clues. But first, Texans All-Access is on Thursday, May 29th, at Reliant Stadium. This event is for all Texans season ticket holders and sponsors, and will feature the entire Texans 2008 team and cheerleading squad. For more information, go to houstontexans.com.
GM Rick Smith has just finished drafting 7 rookies and signing a handful of free agents, but he is not done putting together his team. Smith is in the market for a defensive end to play opposite Mario Williams. Here's what he had to say about his prospects.

Rick Smith: We will continue to grind, and to try and see if we can find that diamond in the rough, as they say. I think our football team has improved, and we would have liked to have added this undersized pass rusher that we didn't get, but I think we've got some quality players on our team. I think that N.D. Kalu was one of our better pass rushers last year, so I think we'll be fine.
Hmmm. Sounds disappointing. I judged this book by its cover. I shouldn't have. Ugh. I really got excited. Smith didn't use the word acquire, the Texans website did. Misleading.

Although.. who was that undersized rusher they were talking about? Anyone have any idea or is it just wishful thinking that we'll ever know? It really sounds like this defense wants to become very small considering our smallish LB corps as well as Dunta and... or is that it?

TexansChick,
Will do! Much obliged!

bah007
05-06-2008, 08:25 PM
You can't fill all your needs in one offseason.

We did amazing just to get the players we got.

I don't understand why some fans are freaking out about the DE position.

It's true that we don't have any stars opposite Mario, but we do have some viable options.

We filled our biggest needs so far, so I'm pretty happy with what we have done. If we grab a DE somewhere then that's great, but I'm not gonna be too upset if we don't.

kiwitexansfan
05-06-2008, 08:30 PM
I think they are expecting Anthony Weaver to be a bigger impact this year.

They say he was banged up all last year and that he will be back better than ever this year... time will tell.

NitroGSXR
05-06-2008, 08:32 PM
You can't fill all your needs in one offseason.

We did amazing just to get the players we got.

I don't understand why some fans are freaking out about the DE position.

It's true that we don't have any stars opposite Mario, but we do have some viable options.

We filled our biggest needs so far, so I'm pretty happy with what we have done. If we grab a DE somewhere then that's great, but I'm not gonna be too upset if we don't.
Well of course, we know that. You have to keep in mind that this is season two of our transformation. Not just the one season as you're implying.

I'm most certainly not freaking out over the DE position. What I'm freaking out over is change. Everytime there's an addition or deletion to my Houston Texans football team, you better realize that I'm going to perk up my ears and try and understand/welcome/disaprove that change. The headline that I got out of that quote led me to believe that we may be talking trade. I'm very very interested in that anyway you look at it no matter what position or player it involves. It's a change to the Houston Texans and that affects me as a fan. It means that my player loyalties may need changing.

bah007
05-06-2008, 08:39 PM
Well of course, we know that. You have to keep in mind that this is season two of our transformation. Not just the one season as you're implying.

I'm most certainly not freaking out over the DE position. What I'm freaking out over is change. Everytime there's an addition or deletion to my Houston Texans football team, you better realize that I'm going to perk up my ears and try and understand/welcome/disaprove that change. The headline that I got out of that quote led me to believe that we may be talking trade. I'm very very interested in that anyway you look at it no matter what position or player it involves. It's a change to the Houston Texans and that affects me as a fan. It means that my player loyalties may need changing.

I'm not implying that this is our first year of transformation. I'm saying that we had a lot of needs to fill this year, and we filled a lot of them, but you can't always find everything you need.

And I'm definitely not talking about you in particular. It was more directed toward all the fans who were pissed off that we didn't draft a DE in the last two rounds.

I understand the fans just want the team to get better, but the current regime has already proved that they know what they are doing. So if they don't think we need a DE, then I don't think there is any reason for us to get one.

NitroGSXR
05-06-2008, 08:52 PM
I'm not implying that this is our first year of transformation. I'm saying that we had a lot of needs to fill this year, and we filled a lot of them, but you can't always find everything you need.

And I'm definitely not talking about you in particular. It was more directed toward all the fans who were pissed off that we didn't draft a DE in the last two rounds.

I understand the fans just want the team to get better, but the current regime has already proved that they know what they are doing. So if they don't think we need a DE, then I don't think there is any reason for us to get one.
Every single team needs upgrading somewhere. Until the day that a NFL team is able to have the players on the All-Madden team at one time, there will always be room for improvement. Even the Patriots needed improving. The Giants proved that right at the last moment, didn't they?

And I wasn't referring to me in particular either. I'm sure many many people feel the way I do about changing the makeup of our team.

Anyway, not really trying to argue with you. Just... eh. The offseason is really slow.

I'm thinking that something's in the air. Friday's the deadline. Don't be surprised to see something happen. Despite the misleading title by HoustonTexans.com, I'm still thinking that there may be some truth to it. Hoping? I don't know but thinking sure is a strong possibility! If so, before Friday would be best. I'd really like for our complete team to go into the minicamps and come out of preseason joined as one.

TexansLucky13
05-06-2008, 09:09 PM
You can't fill all your needs in one offseason.

We did amazing just to get the players we got.

I don't understand why some fans are freaking out about the DE position.

It's true that we don't have any stars opposite Mario, but we do have some viable options.

We filled our biggest needs so far, so I'm pretty happy with what we have done. If we grab a DE somewhere then that's great, but I'm not gonna be too upset if we don't.

I'm not very upset about it, but I must say I would have rather had Brian Johnston with the 6th rounder rather than a SS.

THAT SAID.... I don't resent the pick at all. Rick and Gary have a proven track record, like you said, and I am happy that professionals are making the picks and not me.

infantrycak
05-06-2008, 09:29 PM
I'm guessing they like Cochran (and Kalu as a situational pass rusher) more than most people think as well.

ATXtexanfan
05-06-2008, 09:33 PM
that's what i'm saying, i'd rather take a chance at finishing the front line than the secondary

TexansLucky13
05-06-2008, 09:38 PM
I'm guessing they like Cochran (and Kalu as a situational pass rusher) more than most people think as well.

I definitely like N.D. "Karate Man" Kalu as the 3rd down/pass rusher. Weaver is our big run stopper. Hopefully we can find another Mario, who is both of those and more.

that's what i'm saying, i'd rather take a chance at finishing the front line than the secondary

Exactly. A great D-line does more for the secondary than vice versa.

ArlingtonTexan
05-06-2008, 09:39 PM
I'm guessing they like Cochran (and Kalu as a situational pass rusher) more than most people think as well.

Of the known options, Cochran is the guy who has the chance to improve. While I am pretty sure that he has the real burst it takes to be an elite pass rusher, there is something to him and not out of the question that he could at least get to the solid/avereage category of player.

steelbtexan
05-06-2008, 10:38 PM
I'm not very upset about it, but I must say I would have rather had Brian Johnston with the 6th rounder rather than a SS.

THAT SAID.... I don't resent the pick at all. Rick and Gary have a proven track record, like you said, and I am happy that professionals are making the picks and not me.

What he said

dalemurphy
05-06-2008, 10:39 PM
I'm guessing they like Cochran (and Kalu as a situational pass rusher) more than most people think as well.


I agree about Cochran. However, I think we'll see Chauncey Thompson off the edge this season on some 3rd and longs. He played some OLB in a 3-4 and has a lot of speed and athleticism. So, I think that a combination of Weaver, Cochran, Kalu, and Thompson should certainly have more success than last year.

Situationally, we're going to be much stronger on the DL. Having Okam for short yardage will help our interior run defense as well. Hopefully, they'll be willing to spell Okoye and make him more effective- particularly on passing downs.

I think the DL situation is pretty well set:

mario
cochran
weaver
kalu
okoye
travis johnson
maddox
okam

should be the eight linemen on the roster plus Thompson will drop down from the LB spot. I really like our depth this year. goodbye Zoniga!!

Ole Miss Texan
05-06-2008, 11:27 PM
Defensive end???? Who? What plans? 'Plans to acquire' sure sounds like a TRADE brewing somehow!

What does everybody think about a Michael Boulware for Jason Babin trade? :stirpot:

TheRealJoker
05-07-2008, 09:28 AM
Sage for Mark Anderson....:splits:

Polo
05-07-2008, 09:41 AM
I'm and Earl Cochran guy...

I think he's a pretty good ball player...high motor, decent athleticism...

Cochran, ND, And Thompson should provide decent pressure opposite mario...We still would be better served having one reliable player there, but I think we can roll with what we've got...

DocBar
05-07-2008, 10:26 AM
I think it's going to be interesting to see how Okam does. That is one huge man. If he can be the two-gap tackle we;ve needed, it should make things easier on our DE's. This will be even more evident if Okoye improves in his second year. IMO, we could have a pretty formidable defensive front and with some solid LB play ( I really like how we look on paper there) maybe even make our secondary look good.

D-ReK
05-07-2008, 10:29 AM
I think it's going to be interesting to see how Okam does. That is one huge man. If he can be the two-gap tackle we;ve needed, it should make things easier on our DE's. This will be even more evident if Okoye improves in his second year. IMO, we could have a pretty formidable defensive front and with some solid LB play ( I really like how we look on paper there) maybe even make our secondary look good.

I think Okam and Okoye will make an OK duo (wow, that was bad).

Seriously, Okam should be able to take up blockers and free things up for Amobi to do his thing, keep blockers off Demeco, and help the overall play of our defense vesus the run. I wouldn't be surprised if he was logging major playing time for us sooner rather than later.

krocket
05-07-2008, 10:59 AM
Hmmm. ...Although.. who was that undersized rusher they were talking about? ...

Seems I recall that someone was talking about a person we were interested in during the draft that was similar in stature to Elvis Dumerville. Don't remember who though. Maybe with that clue someone else can tell you who...ROY ?

kravix
05-07-2008, 11:38 AM
I would add Zgonia or Maddox as the 9th DL on the roster. I cant remember if Kubes carried 9 or 10 last year?

TJ played extremly well and now actually seems like a part of the organization rather than the loner he was, and even though Okam has size I dont see him taking the starting spot. He will be in the rotaion most likely and maybe in 2-3 years could become a starter. Granted the DL roation means pretty much everyone that is active on game day gets plenty of play time.

DocBar
05-07-2008, 12:13 PM
I would add Zgonia or Maddox as the 9th DL on the roster. I cant remember if Kubes carried 9 or 10 last year?

TJ played extremly well and now actually seems like a part of the organization rather than the loner he was, and even though Okam has size I dont see him taking the starting spot. He will be in the rotaion most likely and maybe in 2-3 years could become a starter. Granted the DL roation means pretty much everyone that is active on game day gets plenty of play time.

After stopping and thinking about it for a month or three, I'm of the opinion that TJ played extremely well compared to previous years. He STILL wasn't as much a force as his "measurables" say he should be. It seems like he's playing harder to keep his roster spot than because he has suddenly developed a passion for the game. Add to that some questionable calls against him, I wouldn't be surprised if one of our walk ons takes his roster spot for good. I'm sure he would be gone if we had any decent offers for him.

Polo
05-07-2008, 12:31 PM
Statistically and Consistency wise TJ was our best DT last year.

Why would we get rid of him ? That'd make no sense at this point.

Specnatz
05-07-2008, 12:59 PM
I definitely like N.D. "Karate Man" Kalu as the 3rd down/pass rusher. Weaver is our big run stopper. Hopefully we can find another Mario, who is both of those and more.



Exactly. A great D-line does more for the secondary than vice versa.

Of course the term coverage sack mean the D-Line caused the sack not the secondary.

Goldensilence
05-07-2008, 02:18 PM
I was hoping to take a flyer on Tommie Blake. Guy has all the measureables to be a complete force opposite Mario if he can keep his head on.

Other then that I am guessing we'll be looking at June 1st cuts.

HOU-TEX
05-07-2008, 02:24 PM
Statistically and Consistency wise TJ was our best DT last year.

Why would we get rid of him ? That'd make no sense at this point.

I'd agree with this. Zgonina and Maddox are blown off the LOS more often than not. It'd be nice if Okam turns out to be a diamond in the rough. :)

infantrycak
05-07-2008, 02:25 PM
Of course the term coverage sack mean the D-Line caused the sack not the secondary.

It means the coverage was so good the QB had to hold on to the ball and gave time for the DL to get there.

badboy
05-07-2008, 02:36 PM
My thoughts

Okam may turn out to be a steal at where we got him if he wants to play and not become an attorney. He must have been better than any DE available at his pick.

Weaver and TJ will have spotlight on them this season & I expect both do much better this year.

LB should be improved even if only a little, especially if Adibi does as well as some think.

RCB is still a puzzle to me. Reeves should get start with Molden maybe doing a Bennett later. I have moved DR off my plate for now.

Dominique Barber is FS per NFL draft scout with SS/CB as 2nd position. Size is good for either. Speed not what I want but ok for the box.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=33308

steelbtexan
05-07-2008, 02:49 PM
Sage for Mark Anderson....:splits:

Shall we all pray that this happen.

kiwitexansfan
05-07-2008, 06:24 PM
I think Okam and Okoye will make an OK duo (wow, that was bad).

Does that make our DL the Showdown at the OK Coral.

Time to wrangle us some quarterbacks.

threetoedpete
05-07-2008, 10:27 PM
I think Okam and Okoye will make an OK duo (wow, that was bad).

Seriously, Okam should be able to take up blockers and free things up for Amobi to do his thing, keep blockers off Demeco, and help the overall play of our defense vesus the run. I wouldn't be surprised if he was logging major playing time for us sooner rather than later.

That's the whole Gd point about Okam. When he was sophmore Okam had a better first step than Okoye did. He's too big @ 347. If they can trim him down to 315 or lighter, that's where he needs to be. It's that first step quickness that put Okam on the map, and makes him more than just another fat guy.

Goldensilence
05-07-2008, 11:03 PM
My thoughts

Okam may turn out to be a steal at where we got him if he wants to play and not become an attorney. He must have been better than any DE available at his pick.

Weaver and TJ will have spotlight on them this season & I expect both do much better this year.

LB should be improved even if only a little, especially if Adibi does as well as some think.

RCB is still a puzzle to me. Reeves should get start with Molden maybe doing a Bennett later. I have moved DR off my plate for now.

Dominique Barber is FS per NFL draft scout with SS/CB as 2nd position. Size is good for either. Speed not what I want but ok for the box.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=33308

I think Okam struggling a bit his senior season coupled with thinking about law school post NFL made his value drop to the fifth. The later I think was overblown.

My biggest question on LB if someone has a great TC does Greenwood get pushed?

I'm not sure what to expect from Molden honestly. Bennett was playing against SEC talent as opposed to who Molden faced.

TC will be a very interesting one.

Specnatz
05-07-2008, 11:58 PM
It means the coverage was so good the QB had to hold on to the ball and gave time for the DL to get there.

Yes I know I was being sarcastic because of people not wanting to improve the secondary, I think some would rather still have Faggins there and just improve the D-Line. Of course there is no D-Line that could be great enough to over come your corner contineously being beaten for large amounts of yardage and TDs.

Why not continue to improve the team in all aspects. Each draft you have to pick which parts to improve on so that you do not have one aspect that sucks so bad that there is no way to compensate for its weakness.

281
05-08-2008, 11:20 AM
Dominique Barber is FS per NFL draft scout with SS/CB as 2nd position. Size is good for either. Speed not what I want but ok for the box.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=33308

i think rick smith said they were gonna use barber as a FS, actually... not sure though.

TheRealJoker
05-08-2008, 12:12 PM
i think rick smith said they were gonna use barber as a FS, actually... not sure though.

He has left safety and right safety like he does with linebackers. They said they like him as an "in the box" safety. Methinks they'll work him in on short yardage packages if he makes the team.

Polo
05-08-2008, 12:15 PM
He has left safety and right safety like he does with linebackers.


I seriously doubt that.

If we're talking about labels...maybe....but I doubt that too...

If we're talking about traditional roles/responsibilities (which is what I think you are referring to) I think that is something folks here on the board have latched on to and ran with...JMO...

BigBull17
05-08-2008, 12:17 PM
I think Okam and Okoye will make an OK duo (wow, that was bad).

Seriously, Okam should be able to take up blockers and free things up for Amobi to do his thing, keep blockers off Demeco, and help the overall play of our defense vesus the run. I wouldn't be surprised if he was logging major playing time for us sooner rather than later.

Guess we can call em the Ok corral...Wow, what a bad joke. Back to reality, we need one more guy to make it shine, a pure pass rushing DE.

HOU-TEX
05-08-2008, 12:17 PM
He has left safety and right safety like he does with linebackers. They said they like him as an "in the box" safety. Methinks they'll work him in on short yardage packages if he makes the team.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kubiak has cut one of his draftees the same year he was drafted. PS maybe, but not cut.

IMO, it'll be one of the Brandons cut before Barber. I think Barber would be snatched from the PS if he were placed there. :cool:

infantrycak
05-08-2008, 12:23 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kubiak has cut one of his draftees the same year he was drafted. PS maybe, but not cut.

IMO, it'll be one of the Brandons cut before Barber. I think Barber would be snatched from the PS if he were placed there. :cool:

The only guy drafted during the Kubiak era not still associated with the team is Lundy. Technically folks are waived/cut to get to the practice squad and some have gone through that process. Kubiak clearly believes later round guys, heck young guys period, have to be given time to develop and isn't going to pull any Charles Hill moves.

HOU-TEX
05-08-2008, 12:29 PM
The only guy drafted during the Kubiak era not still associated with the team is Lundy. Technically folks are waived/cut to get to the practice squad and some have gone through that process. Kubiak clearly believes later round guys, heck young guys period, have to be given time to develop and isn't going to pull any Charles Hill moves.

Probably a dumb question but.....Are they still paid?

Lundy was still given the chance to earn a spot on the team his first year. Looking back, I kinda wish we had kept him a while longer. Surely he could've performed better than Dayne.

Anywho, the odds of Barber making the team this year are very good, IMO. :texflag:

infantrycak
05-08-2008, 12:54 PM
Probably a dumb question but.....Are they still paid?

Nope.

The Pencil Neck
05-08-2008, 06:51 PM
Lundy was still given the chance to earn a spot on the team his first year. Looking back, I kinda wish we had kept him a while longer. Surely he could've performed better than Dayne.


I think Lundy was dropped because his inability to block was getting HWWNBN killed.

TheRealJoker
05-08-2008, 07:33 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kubiak has cut one of his draftees the same year he was drafted. PS maybe, but not cut.

IMO, it'll be one of the Brandons cut before Barber. I think Barber would be snatched from the PS if he were placed there. :cool:

I dont care about what happened the past 2 drafts, no 6th round pick is handed a spot on an ascending NFL team. Hence the "if he makes the team" comment, he's gonna have to earn his spot just like every other player on the roster.

Imatexanfan
05-08-2008, 08:16 PM
So ummm somebody said we are getting Jason Taylor?! Or was that just my imagination?! This MB would go insane if that happened.:thisbig:

HOU-TEX
05-09-2008, 09:59 AM
I dont care about what happened the past 2 drafts, no 6th round pick is handed a spot on an ascending NFL team. Hence the "if he makes the team" comment, he's gonna have to earn his spot just like every other player on the roster.

Relax, I never said anyone would be handed a spot. I mentioned what Kubiak has done the past couple of seasons. As far as "having to earn his spot like everyone else".....that goes without saying. :winky:

Texans_Chick
05-09-2008, 10:54 AM
Probably a dumb question but.....Are they still paid?

Lundy was still given the chance to earn a spot on the team his first year. Looking back, I kinda wish we had kept him a while longer. Surely he could've performed better than Dayne.

Anywho, the odds of Barber making the team this year are very good, IMO. :texflag:

Hmmm, if I'm going in the way back machine, I'm not so sure that would have been a good idea:

After the Texans released Lundy, he got busted for pot smoking and open container (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/112-02252008-1493292.html). You think if a guy wants to smoke dope, he would find a better place than in a parked car outside a playground.

HOU-TEX
05-09-2008, 11:02 AM
Hmmm, if I'm going in the way back machine, I'm not so sure that would have been a good idea:

After the Texans released Lundy, he got busted for pot smoking and open container (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/112-02252008-1493292.html). You think if a guy wants to smoke dope, he would find a better place than in a parked car outside a playground.

Yeah, I remember that too, but that was after he'd gotten whacked. Hmm..dunno, maybe the team sensed the guy wasn't right upstairs.

Either way, I'd still bet on him before Dayne. All is moot now. We have an abundance of RB's that're better than both.......if healthy. :texflag:

badboy
05-09-2008, 11:05 AM
i think rick smith said they were gonna use barber as a FS, actually... not sure though.
My understanding, too. I thought the pick was SS overkill until I found out he could play FS.

badboy
05-09-2008, 11:08 AM
Hmmm, if I'm going in the way back machine, I'm not so sure that would have been a good idea:

After the Texans released Lundy, he got busted for pot smoking and open container (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/112-02252008-1493292.html). You think if a guy wants to smoke dope, he would find a better place than in a parked car outside a playground.Play ground is probably where he learned to dope & drink.