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Bubbajwp
04-28-2008, 05:22 PM
QB's
Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
Tim Tebow, Florida
Chase Daniel, Missouri
Todd Boeckman, Ohio State

RB's
Chris Wells, Ohio State
C.J. Spiller, Clemson
Javarris James, Miami (Fl.) (edgerin James cousin)

WR's
Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Percy Harvin, Florida
Brian Robiskie, Ohio State

TE's
Chase Coffman, Missouri
Cornelius Ingram, Florida

OT's
Michael Oher, Ole Miss
Alex Boone, Ohio State

OG's
Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
Jeremy Perry, Oregon State

C
Alex Mack, California
Antoine Caldwell, Alabama

DT's
Fili Moala, USC
Al Woods, LSU
DeMarcus Granger, Oklahoma

DE's
Tyson jackson, LSU
George Selvie, South Florida
Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech

OLB's
Brian Cushing, USC
Sean Lee, Penn State
Marcus Freeman, Ohio State

MLB's
James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC
Brandon Spikes, Florida
Darry Beckwith, LSU

CB's
Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
Victor Harris, Virginia Tech
Vontae Davis, Illinois

Safties
Taylor Mays, USC
Myron Rolle, Florida State
Kevin Ellison, USC

Ole Miss Texan
04-28-2008, 05:39 PM
Never too early to start thinking about next year!

A very early look at how our team is now, I'll be looking at a power runner to pair with Slaton, a pass rushing DE, a LB to add to the mix, and a versatile DB.

Might add Greg Hardy, DE from Ole Miss to the list.

Bubbajwp
04-28-2008, 05:44 PM
Never too early to start thinking about next year!

A very early look at how our team is now, I'll be looking at a power runner to pair with Slaton, a pass rushing DE, a LB to add to the mix, and a versatile DB.

Might add Greg Hardy, DE from Ole Miss to the list.

By all means I want everybody to add some names. I just threw out a few. As of right now I really want a safty or LB in next years draft. But it depends on how Drob comes back.

TexansLucky13
04-28-2008, 05:52 PM
By all means I want everybody to add some names. I just threw out a few. As of right now I really want a safty or LB in next years draft. But it depends on how Drob comes back.

I'm thinking all we need next year is a long range FS and an edge rusher to compliment Mario. Maybe SLB if Diles doesn't work out.

Crabtree will be a beast in the NFL IMO. I hate Tech but I like watching that guy play.

brakos82
04-28-2008, 05:55 PM
CB's
Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
Victor Harris, Virginia Tech
Vontae Davis, Illinois

Safties
Taylor Mays, USC
Myron Rolle, Florida State
Kevin Ellison, USC

With the 23rd pick, the Texans pick one of those guys. :cowboy1:

Bubbajwp
04-28-2008, 05:58 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Texans pick one of those guys. :cowboy1:

After trading our first and second round pick to move up in the draft right. LOL

rmartin65
04-28-2008, 05:59 PM
Small School

QB
Brock Smith, Liberty
Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross
Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
Sean Shaefer, Towson State
Jacary Atkinson, Tuskegee

RB
Tyler Roehl, North Dakota State
Brandon Ore, West Liberty State
Herb Donaldson, Western Illinois

WR
Ramses Barden, Cal Poly

OL
Joel Bell, Furman

TexansLucky13
04-28-2008, 06:00 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Texans pick one of those guys. :cowboy1:

IMO the only reason to pick up another CB is to move someone to FS. Assuming either Reeves or Molden works out (and paired with Dunta and Freddie B), we have 3 capable corners.

I really just want a long-range, ball-hawking FS out of our first round next year. If not that then a monster at DE to help Mario.

Ole Miss Texan
04-28-2008, 06:01 PM
I'm thinking all we need next year is a long range FS and an edge rusher to compliment Mario. Maybe SLB if Diles doesn't work out.

Crabtree will be a beast in the NFL IMO. I hate Tech but I like watching that guy play.

I think if we can get the following, remain healthy, and the OL learns quickly this year we can really make a push consistently for the playoffs:
A stud powerful RB to complement Slaton.
A pass-rushing DE opposite Mario.
An strong SLB.
A Free Safety that can make some turnovers.

We have free agency next year and all of our draft picks. We should be completing our team at the exact same time our 'young' picks (Jacoby, Amobi, Mario, TJ, Bennett, Molden? Adibi?) are maturing and really filling their role as well as our Offensive Line "gels", knows the system and produces like Gibbs' lines have in the past.

It's going to be exciting when all this comes together, very shortly.

Bubbajwp
04-28-2008, 06:02 PM
Small School

QB
Brock Smith, Liberty
Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross
Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
Sean Shaefer, Towson State
Jacary Atkinson, Tuskegee

RB
Tyler Roehl, North Dakota State
Brandon Ore, West Liberty State
Herb Donaldson, Western Illinois

WR
Ramses Barden, Cal Poly

OL
Joel Bell, Furman

Rhett Bomar could be a huge steal for somebody next year. He played pretty good while at oklahoma. But fell pretty far off the radar when he had to transfer to sam.

rmartin65
04-28-2008, 06:04 PM
Rhett Bomar could be a huge steal for somebody next year. He played pretty good while at oklahoma. But fell pretty far off the radar when he had to transfer to sam.

Yep. He has played decently at SHSU. Still mobile with a solid arm.

Bubbajwp
04-28-2008, 06:04 PM
My two favorite players still in college are James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC But it would take a major catastrophe for one of them to fall to us.

TexansLucky13
04-28-2008, 06:05 PM
I think if we can get the following, remain healthy, and the OL learns quickly this year we can really make a push consistently for the playoffs:
A stud powerful RB to complement Slaton.
A pass-rushing DE opposite Mario.
An strong SLB.
A Free Safety that can make some turnovers.

We have free agency next year and all of our draft picks. We should be completing our team at the exact same time our 'young' picks (Jacoby, Amobi, Mario, TJ, Bennett, Molden? Adibi?) are maturing and really filling their role as well as our Offensive Line "gels", knows the system and produces like Gibbs' lines have in the past.

It's going to be exciting when all this comes together, very shortly.

I agree 100%. I would rank our draft needs next years as:

FS > DE > SLB > RB

This is assuming Brown and Adibi become starters, and one of our corners steps up to the #3 spot. I honestly think we aren't too bad at RB, especially if Slaton performs like he did year before last.

Bubbajwp
04-28-2008, 06:07 PM
I agree 100%. I would rank our draft needs next years as:

FS > DE > SLB > RB

This is assuming Brown and Adibi become starters, and one of our corners steps up to the #3 spot. I honestly think we aren't too bad at RB, especially if Slaton performs like he did year before last.

You can add Drob fully recovering to that.

TexansLucky13
04-28-2008, 06:08 PM
You can add Drob fully recovering to that.

True. Knowing D-Rob, he will be back in full force sooner rather than later.... but there is no way to know if he will be 100% when he does return.

Ole Miss Texan
04-28-2008, 06:12 PM
Best case scenario involves players we already have, and looking for them to develop over this season and heading into the '09 season.

WR- Jacoby develops into the threat we think he can be.
QB- Schaub is healthy and plays like we think he can, and he gets more protection
RB- Taylor shows us he's a good solution for us, Slaton shows us he's a great complimentary back.
OL- Brown develops into our franchise LT, Myers shows he's our C, Winston keeps on keepin on, and Spencer/Frye fill the role as great options at RG. Pitts stays healthy at LG
FB/TE- Daniels and Leach stay healthy

DL- Okam. He's gotta lose a little weight, get some endurance, and a mean streak to go beside Amobi and Mario. He frees up Amobi who progress and rushes the passer and Mario keeps on keepin on and develops more moves. (Here we still need that pass rusher opposite Mario)
LB- Demeco stays healthy. Adibi shows us he was another 4th rd steal and develops into a good WLB. I see SLB as still a long term issue, maybe Diles can fill that role or at least be a good backup for MLB and SLB.
CB- Dunta comes back healthy, Reeves shows to be a great nickle corner, Bennett continues to develop, and Molden becomes a real good player somewhere in the mix.
S- we have Brown, Earl, Harrison, Demps, Barber, and about 30 other SS's. I see this unit as strong. But we could add a FS that can create more turnovers. I wonder how Harrison or Barber could fill that role, or possibly a corner like Molden/Bennett may transition over as long as it doesn't create a weakness in the CB's (I'm not for Dunta moving AT ALL).

So I see a DE, SLB, and FS as the most likely positions to still look at with our high draft picks- and may have a great option in the '09 1st round.

Bubbajwp
04-28-2008, 07:18 PM
DL- Okam. He's gotta lose a little weight, get some endurance, and a mean streak to go beside Amobi and Mario. He frees up Amobi who progress and rushes the passer and Mario keeps on keepin on and develops more moves. (Here we still need that pass rusher opposite Mario)
LB- Demeco stays healthy. Adibi shows us he was another 4th rd steal and develops into a good WLB. I see SLB as still a long term issue, maybe Diles can fill that role or at least be a good backup for MLB and SLB.
CB- Dunta comes back healthy, Reeves shows to be a great nickle corner, Bennett continues to develop, and Molden becomes a real good player somewhere in the mix.
S- we have Brown, Earl, Harrison, Demps, Barber, and about 30 other SS's. I see this unit as strong. But we could add a FS that can create more turnovers. I wonder how Harrison or Barber could fill that role, or possibly a corner like Molden/Bennett may transition over as long as it doesn't create a weakness in the CB's (I'm not for Dunta moving AT ALL).

So I see a DE, SLB, and FS as the most likely positions to still look at with our high draft picks- and may have a great option in the '09 1st round.

As of right now the 09 draft seems to be built for our remaining needs. At an early glance the 09 draft seems stacked at the positions we need as you said. FS,SLB,DE
OLB's
Brian Cushing, USC
Sean Lee, Penn State
Marcus Freeman, Ohio State

MLB's - I think all of these mlbs would be great olb's in the nfl.
James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC
Brandon Spikes, Florida

and the usc Safties seem pretty good at this point to.

kastofsna
04-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Painter from Purdue, maybe the best QB prospect of the bunch. looks dreadful right now though, although Tebow is the wild card to be the best of the whole draft class if he keeps improving.

Lucky
04-28-2008, 09:22 PM
Never too early to start thinking about next year!
It's not too early. It's way too early. I just looked at an internet scout's top senior draft board heading into this season, and Okam was #4 prospect. There were a couple of guys on the list who weren't even drafted. A player can finish the season highly regarded, then after the heavy scrutiny, pinching, and poking by NFL scouts, become a mid to late round pick. Slaton, Adibi, and Okam are great examples.

But, don't let me rain on the parade.

Ole Miss Texan
04-28-2008, 09:38 PM
It's not too early. It's way too early. I just looked at an internet scout's top senior draft board heading into this season, and Okam was #4 prospect. There were a couple of guys on the list who weren't even drafted. A player can finish the season highly regarded, then after the heavy scrutiny, pinching, and poking by NFL scouts, become a mid to late round pick. Slaton, Adibi, and Okam are great examples.

But, don't let me rain on the parade.

LOL, I agree with you. But you gotta start somewhere. I think it's a good idea to have a list like this to reference throughout the college season, so we can watch the prospects. Some will fail, some will do good.

I'll also be looking at the Texans throughout the year, trying to identify specific needs and seeing what players in college may help fill them.

You're right though, even Andre Woodson near the end of this season was thought to possibly be the 1st QB taken in the 1st round... 6th round just isn't the same!

mussop
04-29-2008, 08:19 AM
As of right now the 09 draft seems to be built for our remaining needs. At an early glance the 09 draft seems stacked at the positions we need as you said. FS,SLB,DE
OLB's
Brian Cushing, USC
Sean Lee, Penn State
Marcus Freeman, Ohio State

MLB's - I think all of these mlbs would be great olb's in the nfl.
James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC
Brandon Spikes, Florida

and the usc Safties seem pretty good at this point to.

You can mark off Sean Lee.

Penn State's Sean Lee Tears ACL

FROM THE PENN STATE SPORTS INFORMATION DEPARTMENT

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa.; April 12, 2008 Penn State standout linebacker Sean Lee (Pittsburgh) suffered a serious knee injury in practice Friday that will likely sideline him for the 2008 season.

A probable All-America candidate, Lee tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee, according to Dr. Wayne Sebastianelli, Penn State Director of Athletic Medicine. Lee will have surgery within the next 2-4 weeks and rehabilitation will take approximately nine months, according to Sebastianelli.

threetoedpete
05-22-2008, 01:16 AM
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

Houston Texans: Taylor Mays, SS, USC
Basically the Best Player Available formula for a team hurting for defense. It's not like strong safety isn't a need, anyway. Taylor Mays is an amazing athlete who, despite weighing 225 pounds, runs a 4.4 40.

Uggg ! Just what we needed, another SS candidate.

2.49 Houston Texans: Arian Foster, RB, Tennessee
I don't expect Ahman Green and Chris Brown to be around once this actual draft takes place. Steve Slaton is a nice scat back to have, but he definitely can't carry the load. The 225-pound Arian Foster would be a nice complement to Slaton.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draftdata.php

rollinstone18
05-22-2008, 01:40 AM
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php



Uggg ! Just what we needed, another SS candidate.



http://www.walterfootball.com/draftdata.php

Mays can play FS. I like the FS from Mizzou, William Moore, the most out of the bunch. It's looking to be a deep class too.

threetoedpete
07-07-2008, 03:10 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsessionid=8B0C32178FE4172D48489FBB86490073? id=09000d5d8081dca9&template=without-video&confirm=true

Brian Orakpo, Texas (6-4, 255): Missed five games in '07 with an injury, but he's got the one trait everyone looks for -- he's a pass rusher.

Mitch King, Iowa (6-3, 275): Has 174 career tackles with 39 for a loss; came to Iowa as a LB.

Brian Cushing, USC (6-4, 241): Played DE in 2006 and then started 13 games at strongside LB in 2007; played RB and TE in high school.

painekiller
07-07-2008, 04:51 PM
My two favorite players still in college are James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Rey Maualaga, USC But it would take a major catastrophe for one of them to fall to us.

With the schedule we have, 6-10 is possible and would have us selecting in the area one of these two guys falls to. Also remember MIKE LBs do not draft top 10 very often so...

If this team goes 6-10, I am not calling it a major catastrophe, only a minor one.

painekiller
07-07-2008, 04:59 PM
Mays can play FS. I like the FS from Mizzou, William Moore, the most out of the bunch. It's looking to be a deep class too.

That is the guy I have my eye on. Maybe he falls to the 2nd round...

He meets the description, ball hawking; 10 career INTs, large body, 6-1 230lbs FS with SS size.

If he runs in the mid 4.5s or lower than he should be high on the radar.

76Texan
07-07-2008, 11:29 PM
Maybe one of the mods can sticky this thread so we know who to look for during college football season! Thanks!

JWarren14
07-08-2008, 04:35 PM
Here is an early 09 Mock:

1) Atlanta - Fili Moala, DT, USC
2) Detroit - Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
3) Kansas City - Matt Stafford*, QB, Georgia
4) Miami - Al Woods, DT, LSU
5) Cincinnati - Sen'Derrick Marks*, DT, Auburn
6) Oakland - Andre Smith*, OT, Alabama
7) Chicago - Tim Tebow*, QB, Florida
8) San Francisco - Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
9) St. Louis - Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
10) New York Jets - Knowshon Moreno*, RB, Georgia
11) Tennessee - Michael Crabtree*, WR, Texas Tech
12) Houston - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State (Mentions CB/Safety potential)
13) Denver - James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
14) Baltimore - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
15) Philadelphia (from Carolina) - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
16) Arizona - Lesean McCoy*, RB, Pittsburgh
17) Buffalo - Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
18) Philadelphia - Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
19) Washington - Greg Hardy*, DE, Mississippi
20) Minnesota - Percy Harvin*, WR/RS, Florida
21) Tampa Bay - Ciron Black, OT, LSU
22) Green Bay - Max Unger, OT, Oregon
23) Cleveland - Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson
24) Seattle - Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
25) Pittsburgh - Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
26) New Orleans - Gerald McRath, OLB, Southern Miss
27) New York Giants - Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
28) Jacksonville - William Moore, S, Missouri
29) Indianapolis - Vance Walker, DT/DE, Georgia Tech
30) San Diego - Auston English, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
31) Dallas - Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
32) New England - Brian Cushing, OLB, USC

badboy
07-09-2008, 01:37 PM
If our current staff especially FA & draft picks for this season perform as expected, I would draft DE, FS, WR, DT and CB in 2009.

DE: Even if Weaver has a good year in 08, he will be 29 yoa for 09 season. He may be in prime but just as easily may not. I want a guy that I can groom as a eventual starter. Don't want to hope I can get a FA for this primo spot.

FS: Demps may be the real deal and be a pro bowler and not an alternate, but a true FS with a bit of speed would sure make me giggly.

WR: Yes, we could have one of the strongest groups but time will tell. Johnson is the only Triple Crown horse we have. Walter is solid but Davis and JJ could go either way. A lower round speedster in 2009 may be a smart move.

DT:Johnson, Frank Okam and or Bulman could be the answer or not. A 5th round pick could strengthen the roster.

CB: If Jenkins lands where we select in first round, it is a done deal imo. We just might be drafting higher than some might think. We have a very tough schedule and based on history, we should lose several starters due to injuries this season. ALso, no guarantee on DR and I love the guy, but we should know by end of season if he will be a plus.

Shaft75
07-09-2008, 02:35 PM
Here is an early 09 Mock:

1) Atlanta - Fili Moala, DT, USC
2) Detroit - Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
3) Kansas City - Matt Stafford*, QB, Georgia
4) Miami - Al Woods, DT, LSU
5) Cincinnati - Sen'Derrick Marks*, DT, Auburn
6) Oakland - Andre Smith*, OT, Alabama
7) Chicago - Tim Tebow*, QB, Florida
8) San Francisco - Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
9) St. Louis - Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
10) New York Jets - Knowshon Moreno*, RB, Georgia
11) Tennessee - Michael Crabtree*, WR, Texas Tech
12) Houston - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State (Mentions CB/Safety potential)
13) Denver - James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
14) Baltimore - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
15) Philadelphia (from Carolina) - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
16) Arizona - Lesean McCoy*, RB, Pittsburgh
17) Buffalo - Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
18) Philadelphia - Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
19) Washington - Greg Hardy*, DE, Mississippi
20) Minnesota - Percy Harvin*, WR/RS, Florida
21) Tampa Bay - Ciron Black, OT, LSU
22) Green Bay - Max Unger, OT, Oregon
23) Cleveland - Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson
24) Seattle - Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
25) Pittsburgh - Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
26) New Orleans - Gerald McRath, OLB, Southern Miss
27) New York Giants - Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
28) Jacksonville - William Moore, S, Missouri
29) Indianapolis - Vance Walker, DT/DE, Georgia Tech
30) San Diego - Auston English, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
31) Dallas - Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
32) New England - Brian Cushing, OLB, USC

You're mock blows goats. Did you make it or find it online?

JWarren14
07-09-2008, 03:37 PM
You're mock blows goats. Did you make it or find it online?

ESPN's

Every 09 mock "blows goats" a whole college & nfl season still has to be played before anybody can get any sort of grasp on whats going to happen and even then nobody really knows.

Shaft75
07-09-2008, 05:59 PM
ESPN's

Every 09 mock "blows goats" a whole college & nfl season still has to be played before anybody can get any sort of grasp on whats going to happen and even then nobody really knows.

oh okay, let me rephrase that...

ESPN's '09 mock draft blows goats. The Texans will not be picking at 12 before TN.

YoungTexanFan
07-09-2008, 08:30 PM
oh okay, let me rephrase that...

ESPN's '09 mock draft blows goats. The Texans will not be picking at 12 before TN.

Well, they have Tenn. picking 11th, so we would be after them. We have a tough schedule and a lot of questions. Lots of things are possible at this point, so instead of randomly bashing a mock draft, take a moment to learn the names, so maybe you won't be foolishly bashing picks at next years draft.

Now, as for the actual mock presented, I am a little confused with Miami's pick. I don't consider him to be the best DT on the LSU roster.

Shaft75
07-09-2008, 11:14 PM
Well, they have Tenn. picking 11th, so we would be after them. We have a tough schedule and a lot of questions. Lots of things are possible at this point, so instead of randomly bashing a mock draft, take a moment to learn the names, so maybe you won't be foolishly bashing picks at next years draft.

Now, as for the actual mock presented, I am a little confused with Miami's pick. I don't consider him to be the best DT on the LSU roster.

Oops. You are right. I must have read that wrong. How foolish of me.

Back to your statement...

What are our questionable positions this year besides the secondary or maybe the offensive line? You are making it sound like you semi-agree that we will have a worse, or equal, record than Baltimore, Arizona, Philly, Washington, New Orleans, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, etc. I don't see how we take a step back this year. This is not a flat-footed team. The Texans have alone improved by getting players healthy. Now throw in the new coaches, some offseason additions, and a decent draft.

Why do you think that we have enough questions to take a step back?

Ole Miss Texan
07-10-2008, 10:02 AM
You are making it sound like you semi-agree that we will have a worse, or equal, record than Baltimore, Arizona, Philly, Washington, New Orleans, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, etc. I don't see how we take a step back this year. This is not a flat-footed team. The Texans have alone improved by getting players healthy. Now throw in the new coaches, some offseason additions, and a decent draft.

Why do you think that we have enough questions to take a step back?

I think the Texans have REALLY improved the team. We've got such quality players now and great coaching. With that said, even though we ARE a much improved team, I don't think that will have THAT big of effect on our roster. I think we can very easily have 6 or 7 wins... then again we could end up quite possibly having like 10 wins. I would expect us to be picking late teens or early twenties, but you never know. If they had us picking at 5 I'd be upset, but not 12.

Like the pick of Jenkins... I do NOT like seeing Crabtree going to Tennesse though!

Ole Miss Texan
07-10-2008, 10:05 AM
What are y'alls thoughts on Crabtree? The guy seems amazing to me, but there's some naysayers that contribute a lot of his success to the system at Tech. I will be watching him closer this season from strictly a 'skills' standpoint and how he may transition into the nfl... wr's are hard for me to get a grasp on (if not named calvin johnson). But if Crabtree would be a good/great PRO player... him and AJ would be crazy together.

beerlover
07-10-2008, 12:49 PM
What are y'alls thoughts on Crabtree? The guy seems amazing to me, but there's some naysayers that contribute a lot of his success to the system at Tech. I will be watching him closer this season from strictly a 'skills' standpoint and how he may transition into the nfl... wr's are hard for me to get a grasp on (if not named calvin johnson). But if Crabtree would be a good/great PRO player... him and AJ would be crazy together.

if the Texans are in the Crabtree running they would really have to suck, can't imagine a talent like him, if he declares early, would still be available after the top 10 picks.

however, I'm hoping the Texans can get the top defensive player on their board like 07 (Amobi Okoye). don't really care if he's a DE, LB or CB. I think the Texans will be players in the next free agent market with plenty of cap room, so maybe they address WR there.

JWarren14
07-10-2008, 12:52 PM
What are y'alls thoughts on Crabtree? The guy seems amazing to me, but there's some naysayers that contribute a lot of his success to the system at Tech. I will be watching him closer this season from strictly a 'skills' standpoint and how he may transition into the nfl... wr's are hard for me to get a grasp on (if not named calvin johnson). But if Crabtree would be a good/great PRO player... him and AJ would be crazy together.


I watch just about every Tech game with my pops since he is a tech alum and I went to TX state so I dont have a football team that plays on TV. Of course his numbers are inflated from the system, Tech throws the ball 50 times a game and a lot of times Leach goees for it on 4th down. Dont underestimate his ability however, he has good speed long arms and great hands. He could have been a star basketball player, but he chose to stick to football. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82gceLrZwCk) He is going to be goood....

Ole Miss Texan
07-10-2008, 03:18 PM
if the Texans are in the Crabtree running they would really have to suck, can't imagine a talent like him, if he declares early, would still be available after the top 10 picks.

however, I'm hoping the Texans can get the top defensive player on their board like 07 (Amobi Okoye). don't really care if he's a DE, LB or CB. I think the Texans will be players in the next free agent market with plenty of cap room, so maybe they address WR there.

I find it very doubtful he would be available for us in the first place, but this early in the game you never know. Preseason favorites drop all the time after a year and the draft roles around... but I do doubt Crabtree does.

I'm in the same boat you are as far as defense. That'd be great if we could get another stud playmaker on this young Defense.

threetoedpete
07-10-2008, 09:15 PM
if the Texans are in the Crabtree running they would really have to suck, can't imagine a talent like him, if he declares early, would still be available after the top 10 picks.

however, I'm hoping the Texans can get the top defensive player on their board like 07 (Amobi Okoye). don't really care if he's a DE, LB or CB. I think the Texans will be players in the next free agent market with plenty of cap room, so maybe they address WR there.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=kuharsky_paul&id=3472921


Highly touted juniors across the country are enjoying a little downtime. Soon enough, they'll be back on campus, getting ready for football season.

But that's not all they should be getting ready for, because early departure to the NFL may soon become a more attractive option.

The owners recently opted out of the collective bargaining agreement, which means it will expire in 2011 instead of 2013. But if there isn't a new deal by March 2009, an absence of one would trigger big changes -- there would be no 2010 salary cap, and the framework of free agency would change.


Count Roger Goodell, left, among those who believe No. 1 pick Jake Long is making too much money.

Let's presume the sides find common ground for a new deal next spring, keep 2009 in place under its existing structure, but agree on some revision to rookie salaries starting in 2010.

If you're a junior this fall, you'll want to get into the league as soon as you can. Wait, and you'd be part of the first draft class to enter after the system is changed, perhaps costing yourself millions.

I have a feeling the board will be loaded next year.

threetoedpete
07-10-2008, 09:29 PM
ESPN's

Every 09 mock "blows goats" a whole college & nfl season still has to be played before anybody can get any sort of grasp on whats going to happen and even then nobody really knows.

We'll see what kind of beating Matt Ryan takes next year. If the Sam Baker- Justin Blalock left side craters, they'll draft Ryan Help early & often. O-line or Rb.
They've got too much money tied up in him not to.

YoungTexanFan
07-10-2008, 11:47 PM
Oops. You are right. I must have read that wrong. How foolish of me.

Back to your statement...

What are our questionable positions this year besides the secondary or maybe the offensive line? You are making it sound like you semi-agree that we will have a worse, or equal, record than Baltimore, Arizona, Philly, Washington, New Orleans, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, etc. I don't see how we take a step back this year. This is not a flat-footed team. The Texans have alone improved by getting players healthy. Now throw in the new coaches, some offseason additions, and a decent draft.

Why do you think that we have enough questions to take a step back?

I think we are an improved team, but as I said, we have a lot of questions that aren't answered that prohibit some people from thinking playoffs. I do not think we are a playoff team, but I also don't think we finish last. We have a new offensive line coach to start with, so guys have to continue adjusting. We have healthy players now, yes, but are you comfortable with our running backs? or our OLBs? We can't predict injuries either at this point. There are simply too many questions to say we will finish higher than we did last year, though it is a definite possibility. My point is this: we haven't even gotten to TC yet, let alone week 17. I think 12 is a realistic possibility for our team, though not ideal.

Ole Miss Texan
07-11-2008, 09:16 AM
I have a feeling the board will be loaded next year.

True- good thing we have ALL our picks!

badboy
07-11-2008, 11:57 AM
True- good thing we have ALL our picks!Yeah! and we will have an extra 2nd round for Sage! (snicker).

threetoedpete
07-16-2008, 02:54 PM
Mays can play FS. I like the FS from Mizzou, William Moore, the most out of the bunch. It's looking to be a deep class too.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewCFSE.asp

apparently rival's gurus agree with you.

threetoedpete
07-16-2008, 03:01 PM
Only two guys on the board with prototypical size for NFL QB. Holbrook New Mexico St., Josh Freeman K. St .

painekiller
07-16-2008, 10:15 PM
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewCFSE.asp

apparently rival's gurus agree with you.

Just to get everyones juices flowing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCGLk4mKnho)

76Texan
07-17-2008, 01:03 AM
I think we are an improved team, but as I said, we have a lot of questions that aren't answered that prohibit some people from thinking playoffs. I do not think we are a playoff team, but I also don't think we finish last. We have a new offensive line coach to start with, so guys have to continue adjusting. We have healthy players now, yes, but are you comfortable with our running backs? or our OLBs? We can't predict injuries either at this point. There are simply too many questions to say we will finish higher than we did last year, though it is a definite possibility. My point is this: we haven't even gotten to TC yet, let alone week 17. I think 12 is a realistic possibility for our team, though not ideal.
What is your point, may I ask?

Ole Miss Texan
07-17-2008, 11:18 AM
What is your point, may I ask?

I think his point was that yes we are a much improved team (so much better!) but that doesn't necessarily mean we will get more wins. There are still a lot of question marks at positions both on offense and defense. A winning record is definitely attainable but so is a losing record. We're still flirting around .500 +/- a game even though our team has improved.

Even if we go 7-9 this coming season, I still think this is a better team than we were a year ago at 8-8, if that makes any sense.

YoungTexanFan
07-17-2008, 01:40 PM
I think his point was that yes we are a much improved team (so much better!) but that doesn't necessarily mean we will get more wins. There are still a lot of question marks at positions both on offense and defense. A winning record is definitely attainable but so is a losing record. We're still flirting around .500 +/- a game even though our team has improved.

Even if we go 7-9 this coming season, I still think this is a better team than we were a year ago at 8-8, if that makes any sense.

Thank you. This is pretty much right on the money for what I was conveying.

badboy
07-17-2008, 02:54 PM
If we go less than 8-8 this MB will melt.

TexansSeminole
07-17-2008, 02:56 PM
Draftable players from Florida State that I should mention before the season starts:

Senior WR Greg Carr, 6-6 210 lbs, 2,032 receiving yards w/ 18.65 yards per catch, and 25 TDs over his career (3 years at FSU).

Senior MLB Derek Nicholson, 99 tackles 8 TFL and 1 FF last year.

Senior Punter Graham Gano, the guy can really punt.

Junior(RS) DE Everette Brown, 64 tackles, 25 TFL, 9.5 sacks, 1 FF, and 1 blocked kick over the last 2 years. This guy will be a force next year.

Junior WR Preston Parker, 791 yards and 4 TDs receiving last year, also added 270 yards rushing @ 5.2 YPC and 2 rushing TDs.

Junior OLB Dekoda Watson, 73 tackles, 11.5 TFL, 5 sacks, and 1 INT(returned for TD) over the last 2 years.

Senior CB Tony Carter, 72 tackles, 6 INTs, 11 breakups (17 passes defenced) over the last 2 years.

Junior(RS) CB Patrick Robinson, 28 tackles 6 INTs, 6 breakups (12 passes defenced) last year.

Junior SS Myron Rolle, 144 tackles, 7 TFL, 1 sack, 1 FF, and 1 INT over the last 2 years.

I figured I'd share this list with you guys in case you happen to catch an FSU game on TV. I know a bit of you probably watch the Miami vs. Florida State game. This is my senior year at FSU so I know these players quite well. The player that will be most ready to make the jump to the pros after this year IMO is 6-4 250 lb DE Everette Brown. The guy showed alot of promise two years ago and started to really come on last year. He absolutely dominated a few games. I expect him to come up with 10+ sacks this year, not to mention alot of tackles for loss against the run as well. I also believe that he would be an excellent fit for the Texans.

Watch the defense when you watch Florida State play. Don't look to find many prospects on the offense outside of Greg Carr and Preston Parker (and maybe JUCO WR Corey Surrency)

threetoedpete
07-19-2008, 09:13 AM
Anyone know Mike Jones of sugarland ? rival's has him ranked in the top fifteen on thier WR board. Arizona St.

TexansSeminole
07-19-2008, 10:46 AM
Anyone know Mike Jones of sugarland ? rival's has him ranked in the top fifteen on thier WR board. Arizona St.

I know he played for Austin high. He juked this LB from Clements and tore his ACL. I've been watching him play at ASU for a couple years now. He had a breakout year last year.

rmartin65
07-19-2008, 03:55 PM
WR Jon Davis from Azusa Pacific
6'3" 205 lbs
73 receptions for 1258 yards (17.2) and 21 TD. 114.4 Yards per game.

Right now, a free agent type. But he has only been playing football for 3 years, and with his size there is definate potential.
http://www.apu.edu/athletics/football/bios/davisjon/

http://www.apu.edu/athletics/football/stories/12453/

CoastalTexan
07-19-2008, 09:59 PM
I have a good friend who dated Mike Jones for a couple years. He played QB in highschool, then switched to WR at Arizona State. She said he runs a 4.4 and is a real good character guy. Tall and lanky if i remember right. She did say he was being recruited heavily for center-field in baseball though. But he might have decided football is the right path by now.

Ole Miss Texan
08-08-2008, 01:22 PM
CB Captain Munnerlyn from South Carolina. You know how we love our Gamecock Corners...

threetoedpete
08-18-2008, 02:13 AM
CB Captain Munnerlyn from South Carolina. You know how we love our Gamecock Corners...

So is Hardy coming out this year Old Miss ?

http://www.gbnreport.com/2008collegepreview.html

Ole Miss Texan
08-18-2008, 11:15 AM
So is Hardy coming out this year Old Miss ?

http://www.gbnreport.com/2008collegepreview.html

Not sure about him... don't really have a handle on it. I'm glad Oher decided to stay but truth be told, I'm not expecting Ole Miss to push for a SEC championship spot until another few years... we just don't have the talent and/or depth.

It depends how the year goes, Hardy could have a monster year and I could see him bolting early. Also, I think it depends how the other DE's do around the country. Guys like Michael Johnson (GT), George Selvie (S. Fl.), Tyson Jackson (LSU), the Middleton guy from the Big 10? Looks like there could be some competition but DE has become one of those premier positions.

He's got a much better chance of leaving early than Oher did. fellow lineman DT Peria Jerry is a Sr. and the two make a good pair... rest of the defense isn't much to talk about. Could be good for the Texans.

threetoedpete
08-26-2008, 12:29 PM
Never too early to start thinking about next year!

A very early look at how our team is now, I'll be looking at a power runner to pair with Slaton, a pass rushing DE, a LB to add to the mix, and a versatile DB.

Might add Greg Hardy, DE from Ole Miss to the list.

So sorry to hear about Hardy's injury.

early player rankings:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Rankings.php

Who would have imagined that giving a 30-year-old Ahman Green $23 million dollars as a free agent even though he already had almost 2,000 carries on his body and was coming off an injury-riddled season with the Packers would backfire? Apparently everyone except the Houston Texans.
Looks as though they've already buried Ahmen.

three centers ranked as first round prospects....won't see that one again for awhile.


Mock:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

there's a high end offensive tackle from South Carolina on the board....we don't need him knock on wood...just saying. He fits the scheme.

Slaton is slowly winning me over....two little guys don't know about that.

Ole Miss Texan
08-26-2008, 01:52 PM
So sorry to hear about Hardy's injury.


Yea that really sucks. Too bad college football isn't like the nfl because ole miss would have a high draft pick next year! Looking more doubtul he declares early... but who knows.

rmartin65
08-31-2008, 11:33 AM
Top 25 Small school QB's with 2007 season stats
The ones in bold are the guys I think the Texans should look at

1) Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas, 6’1” 212 lbs
a. 11 GP, 256 for 377 (67.9%), 3,084 yards, 26 TD, 10 INT, 154.07 rating

2) Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State, 6’2” 216 lbs
a. 9GP, 172 for 291 (59.1%), 2,209 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT, 130.09 rating

3) Chris Pizzotti, Harvard, 6’6” 225 lbs
a. 9 GP, 164 for 260 (63.1%), 2,134 yards, 14 TD, 10 INT, 146.71 rating

4) Jason Boltus, Hartwick, 6’3” 218 lbs
a. 11 GP, 237 for 443 (53.5%), 3,986 yards, 38 TD, 12 INT, 151.97 rating

5) Mike Reilly, Central Washington, 6’3” 214 lbs
a. 13 GP, 271 for 435 (62.3%), 3,386 yards, 30 TD, 10 INT, 145.84 rating

6) Keith Null, West Texas A&M, 6’3” 222 lbs
a. 11 GP, 356 for 528 (67.4%), 4,134 yards, 41 TD, 14 INT, 153.51 rating

7) Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross, 6’2” 220 lbs
a. 11 GP, 297 for 482 (61.6%), 3,604 yards, 30 TD, 8 INT, 141.65 rating

8) Billy Malone, Abilene Christian, 6’2” 235 lbs
a. 13 GP, 264 for 410 (64.4%), 3,914 yards, 37 TD, 14 INT, 167.53 rating

9) Greg Micheli, Mount Union, 6’3” 205 lbs
a. 15 GP, 238 for 327 (72.8%), 3,515 yards, 34 TD, 6 INT, 193.72 rating

10) Adam Hinspeter, Missouri Southern, 6’5” 242 lbs
a. 11 GP, 228 for 378 (60.3%), 2,154 yards, 18 TD, 14 TD, 116.49 rating

11) Sean Schaefer, Towson, 6’1” 205 lbs
a. 11 GP, 225 for 417 (61.2%), 2,553 yards, 21 TD, 19 INT, 112.96 rating

12) Brock Smith, Liberty, 6’2” 252 lbs
a. 11 GP, 150 for 245 (61.2%), 2,226 yards, 19 TD, 7 INT, 157.42 rating

13) Liam Coen, Massachusetts, 6’1” 223 lbs
a. 13 GP, 232 for 360 (64.4%), 3,091 yards, 30 TD, 14 INT, 156.29 rating

14) Jake Phillips, William and Mary, 6’2” 214 lbs
a. 11 GP, 190 for 336 (56.5%), 2,801, 19 TD, 7 INT, 141.07 rating

15) John White, Bentley, 6’4” 228 lbs
a. 9 GP, 167 for 314 (53.2%), 1,796 yards, 17 TD, 9 INT, 114.00 rating

16) Bobby Swallow, Washington Jefferson, 6’2” 210 lbs
a. 11 GP, 229 for 331 (69.2%), 3,106 yards, 46 TD, 3 INT, 192.06 rating

17) Chris Reisert, Ohio Dominican, 6’ 206 lbs
a. 13 GP, 69.5%, 5,434 yards, 54 TD, ? INT, ? rating

18) Jacary Atkinson, Tuskegee, 6’2” 204 lbs
a. 12 GP, 165 for 275 (60%), 2,979 yards, 34 TD, 9 INT, 185.25 rating

19) David Knighton, Harding, 6’1” 225 lbs
a. 10 GP, 297 for 453 (65.6%), 3,198 yards, 32 TD, 12 INT, 142.88 rating

20) Terry Mayo, Texas A&M Commerce, 6’3” 238 lbs
a. 9 GP, 114 for 216 (52.8%), 1,414 yards, 11 TD, 7 INT, 118.09 rating

21) Bobby Reid, Texas Southern, 6’3” 232 lbs
a. 5 GP, 26 for 49 (53.1%), 275 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 102.85 rating

22) Cole Bergquist, Montana, 6’2” 206 lbs
a. 12 GP, 204 for 335 (60.9%), 2,623 yards, 20 TD, 8 INT, 141.59 rating

23) Allan Holland, Eastern Kentucky, 6’1” 245 lbs
a. 12 GP, 178 for 296 (60.1%), 1,990 yards, 14 TD, 4 INT, 129.51 rating

24) Ryan Alexander, Davidson, 6’3” 205 lbs
a. 8 GP, 175 for 295 (59.3%), 2,238 yards, 18 TD, 12 INT, 135.05 rating

25) Scott Knapp, Duquesne, 6’3” 230 lbs
a. 5 GP, 29 for 63 (46%), 494 yards, 4 TD, 1 INT, 98.8 rating

bah007
08-31-2008, 08:19 PM
Bomar looked pretty dominating when we squeaked by East Central Oklahoma 58-14.

14/22 for 198 yds & 4 TDs plus 3 carries for 30 yds.

Lucky for East Central, he only played the first half...