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Vinny
04-28-2008, 02:39 PM
found some footage on one of our FA signings...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBEUSVpLbg

Malloy
04-28-2008, 02:50 PM
Love his speed, and he has nice hands to boot.

I wonder if he's done any returns ?

Vinny
04-28-2008, 02:55 PM
Love his speed, and he has nice hands to boot.

I wonder if he's done any returns ?donno but everyone is looking at what the Patriots did with the smallish but electric Wes Welker. The Patriots forced teams to keep 3CB's on the field or there was usually an unstoppable short pass to Welker in the open field running with a player that needs help from either the sideline or another defender to keep up. The Rams taking Donnie Avery points to the Rams playing Avery like the Pats used Welker last season. Earnest Givins would be great for this role. We probably see Slaton used in the slot some.

Ole Miss Texan
04-28-2008, 03:11 PM
Sure hope he's good enough to see the field some. I'd love to see some reverses or such with Jacoby, Slaton, and this kid!

ccdude730
04-28-2008, 03:31 PM
looks like he has some good hands, but he needs to protect the ball a little better at the pro level. he will be in a tough fight for the 5th spot.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2008, 05:22 PM
Frankly, if I were an undrafted free agent wide receiver, this would be one of the teams I'd avoid. It's going to be hard to make this team as a wideout.

adam
04-28-2008, 06:29 PM
Frankly, if I were an undrafted free agent wide receiver, this would be one of the teams I'd avoid. It's going to be hard to make this team as a wideout.

Indeed. Johnson, Walter, and Davis are going to be the top three. Period. This leaves Grice-Mullins to compete with Jones and Anderson for the number four spot. Given what little I've seen, I think he could pull it off. Jones is proving to be inconsistent and Anderson, from what I can tell, has yet to impress anyone on the coaching staff.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2008, 07:02 PM
Indeed. Johnson, Walter, and Davis are going to be the top three. Period. This leaves Grice-Mullins to compete with Jones and Anderson for the number four spot. Given what little I've seen, I think he could pull it off. Jones is proving to be inconsistent and Anderson, from what I can tell, has yet to impress anyone on the coaching staff.

Actually, the coaching staff has been effusive in its praise of David Anderson and Harry Williams (who didn't make the team.)

Jacoby has to step up. He was doing fine until that injury against the Colts in the 3rd game of the season. He was brought back too quickly and really wasn't ready for the Titans game and got re-injured. He showed a couple of flashes late in the season with one or two good catches. I hope he gets it back together.

adam
04-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Actually, the coaching staff has been effusive in its praise of David Anderson and Harry Williams (who didn't make the team.)

Well, if he's impressing the coaching staff to the same extent as a guy who didn't make the team, then I would say he is not on the right track. ;)

Jacoby has to step up. He was doing fine until that injury against the Colts in the 3rd game of the season. He was brought back too quickly and really wasn't ready for the Titans game and got re-injured. He showed a couple of flashes late in the season with one or two good catches. I hope he gets it back together.

Agreed. He was doing a fine job, not a particularly great job, but a good enough job. One problem Jones has going for him these days is that he's being overwhelming outshined in his area of strength (special teams) by another wide receiver (Davis). If he does not step up and prove his worth in training camp and pre-season, I could see him getting bumped to the practice squad.

Polo
04-28-2008, 07:13 PM
I'm a big David Anderson fan, but this kid brings something David Anderson doesn't....

I think the fifth WR spot will come down to those two...

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this kid makes the team...

Silver Oak
04-28-2008, 08:32 PM
one of the videos to the right side of the one that Vinny provided the link to, is of Hawaii's Pro Day workout.

at the 25 second mark, it flashed Grice-Mullins 40 time as 4.33. if accurate, that is pretty darn fast in my book.

ccdude730
04-28-2008, 08:38 PM
at the 25 second mark, it flashed Grice-Mullins 40 time as 4.33. if accurate, that is pretty darn fast in my book.

Grice-Mullins, who decided to relinquish his senior season and apply for the 2008 NFL draft, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.46 seconds at the NFL Scouting Combine in February.

"I was mad," Grice-Mullins said of that sprint time. "I knew I could do better. It was a setup for this."

At the combine, the 40-yard sprint was held on FieldTurf, an artificial surface in which the "blades" are the length of lawn grass. Yesterday's sprint was held outdoors and on carpet-like AstroTurf.

Each of the scouts recorded the sprint times using their own stopwatches. According to one scout, Grice-Mullins ran the distance in 4.27 seconds. A cluster of scouts credited Grice-Mullins with running between 4.33 seconds and 4.36 seconds.Link (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Apr/02/sp/hawaii804020422.html)

aj.
04-28-2008, 08:40 PM
Excerpt from an email I received today from a friend in the Seattle area:

But, the player that I’m jealous you got…. undrafted Hawaii receiver Ryan Grice-Mullins! Of course he benefitted from the system he was in while getting his 106 catches, 1,372 yards and 13 TD’s; but he will have a good chance at making your team and being a legit possession guy. From what I have seen, he isn’t the fastest guy out there but he is very quick and tough with good hands. He played the slot which allowed him to get a lot of catches against a spread defense, but he had the burst to get up field and get tough YAC. He can run through tackles and will make the hard catch.

I told him that he sounded just like David Andersen. WR5 may have some competition. Most important, special teams skills comes into play ...

Polo
04-28-2008, 08:42 PM
Honestly I'm hoping we carry 6 wideouts...

NitroGSXR
04-28-2008, 08:55 PM
I watched a TON of Grice-Mullins over the last two seasons. I'm a BIG Hawaii and June Jones fan here. I love the razzle and dazzle of the ariel attacks of Texas Tech and Hawaii. I have also met him and a few others on the team several times when I was in Honolulu (I've been several times over the last three years).

Grice-Mullins is SMALL. Very small. They have him listed at 5-11? I call bull on that. The guy appeared to be a lot smaller than that when I met him. I don't know how tall he is but there's no way he's 5'11. I'm 5'6 and the man barely stands taller than me. I also know that I weight more than him. I'm at about 190-200. He's very bony. Very strong but bony. I really don't see him as of being a Wes Welker type at all. I really hope he is though. He really seemed to be a real nice guy. Real LAIIIIIIDDDDDD back. He really got accustomed to being in Hawaii with the all the alohas and mahalos. I also think he has the coolest looking dreadlocks I've ever seen.

Out of that stat crazy team, I see Jason Rivers maybe making it in the NFL. Maybe Bess as a Welker type but not Grice-Mullins.

aj.
04-28-2008, 09:11 PM
He measured 5'10" 187 at the combine (kind of hard to fool those guys) and about the same at his Pro Day a few weeks ago:

NFL | Grice-Mullen works out at Pro Day
Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:14:56 -0700

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports University of Hawaii WR Ryan Grice-Mullen worked out at a Pro Day in California Wednesday, April 2. Grice-Mullen ran a 4.36 40-yard dash, had a 31 1/2-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot 2-inch long jump. He measured in at 5-foot-10 3/8 and 189 pounds.

Gary Wellman with dreads.

NitroGSXR
04-28-2008, 09:16 PM
He measured 5'10" 187 at the combine and about the same at his Pro Day a few weeks ago:

NFL | Grice-Mullen works out at Pro Day
Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:14:56 -0700

Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, reports University of Hawaii WR Ryan Grice-Mullen worked out at a Pro Day in California Wednesday, April 2. Grice-Mullen ran a 4.36 40-yard dash, had a 31 1/2-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot 2-inch long jump. He measured in at 5-foot-10 3/8 and 189 pounds.
Sweet. I've only found him listed at 5'11 on the Warriors report which I frequent (like I said, I'm a HUGE Hawaii fan!). Also says he's 180. I still thought he would have been smaller than that but I guess 5'10 and 189 should be sufficent enough for him to bulk up on but he's already added nine pounds for the draft. Can't bulk up too much more now can he? He's really small.

I hope he makes it though. Really do. He's something else to watch!

Hook'er
04-28-2008, 11:57 PM
Excerpt from an email I received today from a friend in the Seattle area:



I told him that he sounded just like David Andersen. WR5 may have some competition. Most important, special teams skills comes into play ...

Sounds like the next Steve Smith.

michaelm
04-29-2008, 12:39 AM
We probably see Slaton used in the slot some.

That's what I was think as well.

The Pencil Neck
04-29-2008, 02:33 AM
That's what I was think as well.


Actually, I always thought it was kinda cute when Dayne or Walker (or Leach for that matter) split out wide. Like that was scaring anyone.

But if we put Slaton out there outside of Andre?

Watchagonnado?

TheRealJoker
04-29-2008, 06:30 AM
Mullins ran a 4.3? That's blazing, usually a guy with that kind of speed and production will get drafted at some point but I guess the system stigma got him.

I think it will be an interesting battle in TC between him and Anderson. Mullins adds the speed dimension but Anderson has the experience on his side. Both were productive in college but I think Anderson's experience on ST wins him the spot in TC.

El Tejano
04-29-2008, 03:59 PM
donno but everyone is looking at what the Patriots did with the smallish but electric Wes Welker. The Patriots forced teams to keep 3CB's on the field or there was usually an unstoppable short pass to Welker in the open field running with a player that needs help from either the sideline or another defender to keep up. The Rams taking Donnie Avery points to the Rams playing Avery like the Pats used Welker last season. Earnest Givins would be great for this role. We probably see Slaton used in the slot some.

Alot of people are saying, that Slaton was the wise choice way of drafting a player like Reggie Bush. I too see him lining up in the slot.

badboy
04-29-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm not too sure I want to see Slaton matched up against a CB with similar speed and maybe 3 inches on him. I see him more on mismatches against LB and quick release passes 3-5 yards past los where he might allude a tackle and pick up ground. Also, on end arounds as we witnessed last year.

Vinny
04-29-2008, 04:15 PM
I'm not too sure I want to see Slaton matched up against a CB with similar speed and maybe 3 inches on him. I see him more on mismatches against LB and quick release passes 3-5 yards past los where he might allude a tackle and pick up ground. Also, on end arounds as we witnessed last year.
What happens is that when you have a guy this fast in the slot you take the defense out of their base defense...forcing teams to put their nickel cb in the game when they may prefer to stay in their base alignment. Teams either have to put in their 3rd best cover corner in the game and go small or zone the slot with slower, larger guys....pick your poison.

El Tejano
04-29-2008, 04:17 PM
Mullins ran a 4.3? That's blazing, usually a guy with that kind of speed and production will get drafted at some point but I guess the system stigma got him.

I think it will be an interesting battle in TC between him and Anderson. Mullins adds the speed dimension but Anderson has the experience on his side. Both were productive in college but I think Anderson's experience on ST wins him the spot in TC.

you know, now that you mention that, and Vinny talked about Ernest Givins, I bet that is exactly what we brought him in for because of his experience in the offense he was in. Receivers in the Run-n-Shoot, have to find wholes in the zone coverages or be able to turn a small route into a big gain (Ernest Givins). This would make sense to try and get that kind of receiver.

painekiller
04-30-2008, 03:19 AM
Boy I miss the RnS offense, it sure is fun to watch.

This kid looks like he has the quick twitch moves that a punt returner needs. And he runs sub 4.4, that is flying.

And IMO the best way to start a play with Slaton is with him in the backfield. Than if it looks like the defense is in base split him out create the miss match with the LB. If they are in nickle, run him in a base zone run.

Pre-snap Motion, is what a NFL offense needs to create and find the mismatches.

mussop
05-02-2008, 06:59 AM
looks like he has some good hands, but he needs to protect the ball a little better at the pro level. he will be in a tough fight for the 5th spot.

What in this video makes you think he needs to protect ball better? Oh yeh and GO ROCKETS!

mussop
05-02-2008, 07:03 AM
Boy I miss the RnS offense, it sure is fun to watch. .

Loved going to the Gamblers games. The funnest games to watch period. Jim Kelly could throw the deep all better than anyone i have ever seen.

ccdude730
05-02-2008, 04:29 PM
What in this video makes you think he needs to protect ball better? Oh yeh and GO ROCKETS!

IMO he carries the ball too far away from his body and he never switches his ball hand.

go spurs!

Maddict5
05-04-2008, 08:13 PM
from an article i found on UDFA winners and not worth its own thread

4. Houston Texans
- The Texans were another team who didn't bring in half the world, signing only 8 players, but they got some intriguing prospects with those signings. Ryan Grice-Mullins is the least known of the trio of Hawaii receivers that Colt Brennan put up his monster numbers throwing to, but he's the fastest, and might project the best to the NFL because of that. They also added another member of the Diner top 20 in LB Ben Moffitt, another linebacker who just loves football and makes plays. These kinds of linebackers are the guys who make special teams stars.

it funny what he said about ST stars... it seems to me that we've signed quite a few players who have 'special teams demon' on their scouting reports

kiwitexansfan
05-04-2008, 08:34 PM
it funny what he said about ST stars... it seems to me that we've signed quite a few players who have 'special teams demon' on their scouting reports

You can bank on this, if your going to be holding one of the bottom quarter of roster spots you better be able to play some Special Teams or your not staying on the team.

ObsiWan
05-04-2008, 08:43 PM
from an article i found on UDFA winners and not worth its own thread

it funny what he said about ST stars... it seems to me that we've signed quite a few players who have 'special teams demon' on their scouting reports

where was that article?

LORK 88
05-05-2008, 02:11 AM
I'm really excited about Grice-Mullens, this guy has slot WR all over him. He's going to have to overcome the 'system' label, but he's incredibly exlosive and has the talent to make the team. I think he'll end up on the PS this year, but could beat out David Anderson in the long run. I'm rooting for the guy, he could end up being a solid contributor in the long run.

barrett
05-05-2008, 03:17 AM
and who are the other six guys we brought in?

Maddict5
05-05-2008, 05:46 AM
where was that article?

http://www.footballdiner.com/ncaaundraftedfreeagents2.html

shawn76ers
05-05-2008, 06:08 AM
Boy I miss the RnS offense, it sure is fun to watch.

This kid looks like he has the quick twitch moves that a punt returner needs. And he runs sub 4.4, that is flying.

And IMO the best way to start a play with Slaton is with him in the backfield. Than if it looks like the defense is in base split him out create the miss match with the LB. If they are in nickle, run him in a base zone run.

Pre-snap Motion, is what a NFL offense needs to create and find the mismatches.

if this Kubiak/gibbs offense turns out to be a failure....I Vote for bringing back Jack Pardee & the Run & Shoot - those were the best times to be an Oiler fan !