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Texanballer
04-27-2008, 04:27 PM
QB drafted by Us.

probably wont make the team i assume

bah007
04-27-2008, 04:29 PM
Wasn't Brink very highly regarded last year or the year before?

He set a ton of school records at WASU. I wonder why he fell this far.

NitroGSXR
04-27-2008, 04:31 PM
This is awful.

Schaub. Rosenfels. Gray. Brink?

Welcome to the Texans but why would we spend a pick on him? I would have rather locked up a position of need with this selection before cutting them.

JWarren14
04-27-2008, 04:31 PM
Kubiak wanted a young qb project I assume he may be on the ps? Could have gotten another lineman or another position of need, but I will trust Kubiak saw something he liked in this kid. I am very satisfied with this draft.

Hook'er
04-27-2008, 04:32 PM
Trade Sage!:chickendance:

stingray
04-27-2008, 04:32 PM
Analysis
Positives: Poised, intelligent quarterback. ... Washington State staff raves about his football IQ. ... Quick delivery and set up. ... Compact delivery. ... Good short- and medium-range accuracy when he gets into a rhythm. ... Feels pressure and is athletic enough to step up in the pocket and keep the play alive. ... Leader on and off the field. ... Only quarterback in Washington State history to beat the rival Washington Huskies three times.



Negatives: Marginal size for the position. ... Lacks prototypical arm strength. ... Streaky passer whose passes too often force receivers to break stride. ... Will try to force the action, throwing passes into coverage. ... Has to wind-up for longer throws. ... Athletically limited quarterback with only marginal technique despite starting 40 games over his career.




http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/alex-brink?id=365

triplethreat
04-27-2008, 04:34 PM
What was the point of that pick? I was thinking Ali Highsmith there.

kastofsna
04-27-2008, 04:36 PM
because you can never have enough quarterbacks on your roster.

camron1269
04-27-2008, 04:36 PM
this was the only pick of the draft i didnt like. dont know much about him. hes got numbers. kubiak said he wants a late QB to groom but i was hoping a bigname guy like johnson brennan woodson.
henderson highsmith blake and hillis were all there.

J-Russ
04-27-2008, 04:36 PM
I bet Weaver is still going to start and Mario will be stuck at RE. Then when half of the TT members say Mario is best at LE, the other half will say but we don't have anybody to play RE. Well, we didn't even freaking tried to get anybody for that position.

So I guess its still Weaver-LE and Mario-RE. Thanks FO.

bah007
04-27-2008, 04:38 PM
this was the only pick of the draft i didnt like. dont know much about him. hes got numbers. kubiak said he wants a late QB to groom but i was hoping a bigname guy like johnson brennan woodson.
henderson highsmith blake and hillis were all there.

No thanks.

I didn't know we were gonna look at QB in the 7th, but if we did, this is the guy I wanted.

adam
04-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Perhaps just to add people to the position. Short of Schaub, we have no reasonably young QBs on the roster. I remember Shane Boyd being on the practice squad...but, well...yeah. I don't remember whether we kept Nall or not, but...well, see Boyd. I don't know anything about Brink, but a spare QB is never a bad thing.

rmartin65
04-27-2008, 04:39 PM
Not pumped about this one. There were better choices.

Lucky
04-27-2008, 04:41 PM
Here's one rationale to draft a QB. With Schaub, Rosenfels, & Gray already on the roster, it would be difficult to grab a decent UDFA QB. Most would look for a spot where they could compete for the 3rd QB spot. And if a trade possibility opens up during the preseason, the Texans might need a 3rd QB. So let's not trash Smith & Kubiak just yet.

Hook'er
04-27-2008, 04:41 PM
because you can never have enough quarterbacks on your roster.

Just ask Gruden?:gun:

Line_Producer
04-27-2008, 04:41 PM
Ah yes, because we all know that opinions on the internet are honest to God proof of what the FO is thinking.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he was rated higher on their boards than some of the other prospects. Perhaps they want to pull a Drew Henson with him.

Perhaps, the same guys available in the 7th will be available as UDFA's.

Perhaps someone shouldn't have pissed in your cornflakes.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2008, 04:42 PM
Perhaps just to add people to the position. Short of Schaub, we have no reasonably young QBs on the roster. I remember Shane Boyd being on the practice squad...but, well...yeah. I don't remember whether we kept Nall or not, but...well, see Boyd. I don't know anything about Brink, but a spare QB is never a bad thing.

Nall is back with Green Bay.


We have Boyd.

NitroGSXR
04-27-2008, 04:43 PM
Here's one rationale to draft a QB. With Schaub, Rosenfels, & Gray already on the roster, it would be difficult to grab a decent UDFA QB. Most would look for a spot where they could compete for the 3rd QB spot. And if a trade possibility opens up during the preseason, the Texans might need a 3rd QB. So let's not trash Smith & Kubiak just yet.
Hmmm.... I guess I'm not on the brink of it all. Good rationalizing here. Real good.

TheRealJoker
04-27-2008, 04:45 PM
From his description it sounds like he's an overachiever competitive type. If i'm not mistaken Quinn Gray is the type of guy who isn't very motivated sometimes and doesn't work as hard as he should to be a better qb?

I guess Brink is brought in to push Gray and let him know his spot on the roster isn't a gimme. When Gray turns up his play and earns his spot then put Brink on the practice squad and let him compete for a roster spot in 09.

YoungTexanFan
04-27-2008, 04:45 PM
this was the only pick of the draft i didnt like. dont know much about him. hes got numbers. kubiak said he wants a late QB to groom but i was hoping a bigname guy like johnson brennan woodson.
henderson highsmith blake and hillis were all there.

I'm fine with the pick of a QB. I would have preferred Josh Johnson, but a 7th round QB is just fine. I am still baffled by the 6th round choice and in no way do I anticipate Barber playing in the NFL.

TheRealJoker
04-27-2008, 04:51 PM
From his description it sounds like he's an overachiever competitive type. If i'm not mistaken Quinn Gray is the type of guy who isn't very motivated sometimes and doesn't work as hard as he should to be a better qb?

I guess Brink is brought in to push Gray and let him know his spot on the roster isn't a gimme. When Gray turns up his play and earns his spot then put Brink on the practice squad and let him compete for a roster spot in 09.

nunusguy
04-27-2008, 04:57 PM
I dunno, but the guy we drafted with last years 7th rounder
may end up being a starting LB this year, so 7th round picks do make real
contributions sometimes. But they do need to develope a full-time back-up
for Schaub (or Sage) for the long-term and Kubiak needs to have a young QB around for his pet project.

Carr Bombed
04-27-2008, 04:57 PM
I bet Weaver is still going to start and Mario will be stuck at RE. Then when half of the TT members say Mario is best at LE, the other half will say but we don't have anybody to play RE. Well, we didn't even freaking tried to get anybody for that position.

So I guess its still Weaver-LE and Mario-RE. Thanks FO.

The offseason is not over, far from it..........There's going to be plenty of UDFAs and we still have the June 1st cuts to sort through. Kubiak and Smith will address the DE position before camp starts.

TiredOfSuffering
04-27-2008, 04:59 PM
Holy cow. We're thin as hell at OLB and we could have had Highsmith OR Henderson.

We could have taken Josh Barrett in the 6th.

We could have grabbed Griffin from Texas, who was thought to be good enough to maybe get picked in the 3rd round.

Barrett, Henderson, Highsmith, and Griffin have ALL MADE PLAYS for bigtime programs in bigtime games, and they're playing positions of need, and we're taking a frigging POS quarterback who isn't even going to be on this team in two years.

It doesn't seem to matter who we put in the chair, we just can't seem to draft.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2008, 05:00 PM
I'm fine with the pick of a QB. I would have preferred Josh Johnson, but a 7th round QB is just fine. I am still baffled by the 6th round choice and in no way do I anticipate Barber playing in the NFL.

Josh Johnson was gone a long time ago.

Hook'er
04-27-2008, 05:00 PM
The only way this pick has justice is if we now trade Sage. Thats not going to happen, so you tell me?:texflag:

281
04-27-2008, 05:02 PM
From his description it sounds like he's an overachiever competitive type. If i'm not mistaken Quinn Gray is the type of guy who isn't very motivated sometimes and doesn't work as hard as he should to be a better qb?

I guess Brink is brought in to push Gray and let him know his spot on the roster isn't a gimme. When Gray turns up his play and earns his spot then put Brink on the practice squad and let him compete for a roster spot in 09.

i hate this pick, but your reasoning is good.

J-Russ
04-27-2008, 05:02 PM
Ok. So we're counting on other teams to cut their decent/good pass-rushers and hoping other teams don't draft whats left of a crappy DE set. Oh, and not to mention competing against other team to sign those UDFA.

Well, I feel better now that you've talked some sense into me.

TheRealJoker
04-27-2008, 05:03 PM
Holy cow. We're thin as hell at OLB and we could have had Highsmith OR Henderson.

We could have taken Josh Barrett in the 6th.

We could have grabbed Griffin from Texas, who was thought to be good enough to maybe get picked in the 3rd round.

Barrett, Henderson, Highsmith, and Griffin have ALL MADE PLAYS for bigtime programs in bigtime games, and they're playing positions of need, and we're taking a frigging POS quarterback who isn't even going to be on this team in two years.

It doesn't seem to matter who we put in the chair, we just can't seem to draft.

So because you disagree with our 6th/7th round picks at a spot in the draft where teams have drastically different boards our organization cant draft despite proving they could in fact draft their last 2 drafts?

Stay an armchair draft analyst budday, but more importantly stay away from the computer until you can actually offer an educated opinion.

Carr Bombed
04-27-2008, 05:03 PM
It doesn't seem to matter who we put in the chair, we just can't seem to draft.

Yep, Owen Daniels, DeMeco Ryans, Fred Bennett, and the decision to take Mario Williams has been horrible and has set this franchise back for years. :rolleyes:

brakos82
04-27-2008, 05:05 PM
Didn't know he was from WSU... :thinking: We're screwed then. :gun:

Carr Bombed
04-27-2008, 05:06 PM
Ok. So we're counting on other teams to cut their decent/good pass-rushers and hoping other teams don't draft whats left of a crappy DE set. Oh, and not to mention competing against other team to sign those UDFA.

Well, I feel better now that you've talked some sense into me.

You can't fill all your major holes in one draft. Houston DID FILL ALOT OF HOLES.

LT
OLB
CB
RB

were all filled, stop bitching.

oh and June 1st cuts is nothing to turn your nose up at, there are always great players cut from rosters, it's a second FA period.

pappy
04-27-2008, 05:09 PM
You can't fill all your major holes in one draft. Houston DID FILL ALOT OF HOLES.

LT
OLB
CB
RB

were all filled, stop bitching.

oh and June 1st cuts is nothing to turn your nose up at, there are always great players cut from rosters, it's a second FA period.

No they were not , the LT is a project and we needed more than one DB , where is the DE ?

pappy
04-27-2008, 05:12 PM
You can't fill all your major holes in one draft. Houston DID FILL ALOT OF HOLES.

LT
OLB
CB
RB

were all filled, stop bitching.

oh and June 1st cuts is nothing to turn your nose up at, there are always great players cut from rosters, it's a second FA period.

We had good shots today at some good talent and chose a SS and QB of no import to this team or of much talent .

Grid
04-27-2008, 05:13 PM
second guessing a 7th round pick is never a smart thing.

When you get to the 7th round.. ANYONE who played college football is a viable choice.. if the coaches saw something that they felt could translate to success in the pros, then they are justified in taking that player.

Considering Kubiak's pedigree.. im pretty excited about the pick. If this guy can be groomed by Kubiak for the next few years..he may turn out to be our Tom Brady some day.. or possibly a 1st day pick, through a trade.

Or he may end up being cut.. whatever the case.. the 7th round pick rarely makes the team.. so no reason to worry bout it..one way or the other.

J-Russ
04-27-2008, 05:15 PM
You can't fill all your major holes in one draft. Houston DID FILL ALOT OF HOLES.

LT
OLB
CB
RB

were all filled, stop bitching.

oh and June 1st cuts is nothing to turn your nose up at, there are always great players cut from rosters, it's a second FA period.
We didn't tried to fill those holes through the draft or by FA, was what I meant to say. You might say those were just 6th and 7th round pick and they made not matter, nuh-uh. Brian Johnston was one of the top sleeper, Darell Robertson Was considered a 3rd round pick, Tommy Blake was once considered a 1st round pick. All of them RDE and we had a chance at all three of them.

Of course we can't fill all of our holes. Tell me though, when did a third string SS and QB became a bigger need over a pass-rushing DE for us?

TexanSam
04-27-2008, 05:16 PM
Maybe the Texans are going to trade Sage, have Quinn Gray as our backup for a year or two while they develop Brink, and then let Brink take over our #2 spot.

Specnatz
04-27-2008, 05:16 PM
No they were not , the LT is a project and we needed more than one DB , where is the DE ?

Who says he is a project? Kiper? That doofus thought bush was the all to be all and that has not worked out so well. Even if he is a bit of a project we still have Salaam starting and he can learn from a vetern and hopefully get some reps through out the season.

OK so we got one DB in the draft and one in FA, you act like they have done nothing. Well your wrong. They can not fill every hole every draft, and Smith/Kubiak might not have thought that at where they were drafting one was not of value. If Weaver is healthy next season there should be more production, if not they will get one next draft.

Get off the ledge.

ObsiWan
04-27-2008, 05:21 PM
because you can never have enough quarterbacks on your roster.


Jon Gruden, you forgot to sign your post
:D

Hardcore Texan
04-27-2008, 05:23 PM
Maybe the Texans are going to trade Sage, have Quinn Gray as our backup for a year or two while they develop Brink, and then let Brink take over our #2 spot.

This is what I am thinking.

I really like all of the other picks, strongly but this one has me scratching my head. But, WTH do I know, I trust Kubes and Smith's judgement way over mine. It will be interesting to see how it developes.

I see this as possibly a sign that Sage or Gray is about to be traded, and probably Sage.

I see us carrying two QB's next year (Schaub and Gray) and Alex Brink on the PS if he is needed a la Boyd. (and I like Boyd). Meaning that we trade Sage for a CB or LB. But this is just my imagination hard at work....LOL.

drewmar74
04-27-2008, 05:25 PM
Maybe the Texans are going to trade Sage, have Quinn Gray as our backup for a year or two while they develop Brink, and then let Brink take over our #2 spot.

I thought that was the plan with Jared Zabransky?

Me, when I saw that pick come up on the TV = :elle:

Being an LSU fan, I really wanted Highsmith....

Damn you, Smithiak! You hurt my little feelings!

keyser
04-27-2008, 05:38 PM
Who says he is a project? Kiper? That doofus thought bush was the all to be all and that has not worked out so well. Even if he is a bit of a project we still have Salaam starting and he can learn from a vetern and hopefully get some reps through out the season.

McNair said in the press conference yesterday that he was basically a project. More specifically, he said something about it being a year or two before he would reach his potential, and that Salaam had been starting for them and could continue. I imagine they hope he will start sooner rather than later, but I expect to see Salaam as our starting LT on day 1.


OK so we got one DB in the draft and one in FA, you act like they have done nothing. Well your wrong. They can not fill every hole every draft, and Smith/Kubiak might not have thought that at where they were drafting one was not of value. If Weaver is healthy next season there should be more production, if not they will get one next draft.

Agreed. Of all the criticisms, not "filling holes" is not one you can level at the Texans. I think many people would have listed our top 3 needs, in order, as LT, CB, RB, and that's what we took, in that order! Personally, I thought OLB was our next biggest need, and that was our fourth pick! By the time you're in rounds 6 and 7, "filling holes" cannot be your focus - you need to find anyone who has the potential to stick with the team, regardless of position. The talent available among UDFAs is not appreciably lower than what you get in rounds 6 and 7.

pappy
04-27-2008, 05:45 PM
Are you *******king kidding me? READ MY FIRST POST. WE DIDN'T TRIED TO FILL THAT HOLE. You might say those were just 6th and 7th round pick and they made not matter, nuh-uh. Brian Johnston was one of the top sleeper, Darell Robertson Was considered a 3rd round pick, Tommy Blake was once considered a 1st round pick. All of them RDE and we had a chance at all three of them.

Of course we can't fill all of our holes. Tell me though, when did a third string SS and QB became a bigger need over a pass-rushing DE for us?

I'll second this post

Carr Bombed
04-27-2008, 05:47 PM
Are you *******king kidding me? READ MY FIRST POST. WE DIDN'T TRIED TO FILL THAT HOLE. You might say those were just 6th and 7th round pick and they made not matter, nuh-uh. Brian Johnston was one of the top sleeper, Darell Robertson Was considered a 3rd round pick, Tommy Blake was once considered a 1st round pick. All of them RDE and we had a chance at all three of them.

Of course we can't fill all of our holes. Tell me though, when did a third string SS and QB became a bigger need over a pass-rushing DE for us?

well according to Kubiak and Smith that SS and QB WERE more important, I stopped second guessing them a LONG time ago. That QB could allow us to trade Sage for something valuable who knows?

keyser
04-27-2008, 05:52 PM
Brian Johnston was one of the top sleeper, Darell Robertson Was considered a 3rd round pick, Tommy Blake was once considered a 1st round pick. All of them RDE and we had a chance at all three of them.


We still have a chance at two of the three of them! Robertson and Blake weren't drafted. I don't like the last two picks, either, but if you're wanting to fill holes, those aren't the rounds to do it (unless it's a P/K/LS/etc.). That's where you look for some hidden talent.

huckdabuck
04-27-2008, 06:01 PM
So because you disagree with our 6th/7th round picks at a spot in the draft where teams have drastically different boards our organization cant draft despite proving they could in fact draft their last 2 drafts?

Stay an armchair draft analyst budday, but more importantly stay away from the computer until you can actually offer an educated opinion.

Great call!!!! Mad Rep! :goodpost:

kastofsna
04-27-2008, 06:07 PM
Who says he is a project? Kiper? That doofus thought bush was the all to be all and that has not worked out so well.
no, Kiper liked the pick and said he'll be good.

TheRealJoker
04-27-2008, 06:11 PM
no, Kiper liked the pick and said he'll be good.

Correct, Mcshay is the one who said he was a project. He even went as far as to say he'll start by year 2 but he wont be very good.

pappy
04-27-2008, 06:15 PM
Correct, Mcshay is the one who said he was a project. He even went as far as to say he'll start by year 2 but he wont be very good.

The owner of the texans said that he was a project also .

Thorn
04-27-2008, 06:22 PM
So do we know he was drafted to be a QB? Stranger things have happened, college QBs sometimes get switched to other positions. Just a thought.

Wolf
04-27-2008, 06:47 PM
We could have been like :specnatz: green bay..drafting 2 qbs after having rogers

mexican_texan
04-27-2008, 09:29 PM
So do we know he was drafted to be a QB? Stranger things have happened, college QBs sometimes get switched to other positions. Just a thought.
NFLN doesn't list a position

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2008, 09:35 PM
NFLN doesn't list a position

Kubiak calls him a developmental QB.

Mailman
04-27-2008, 09:56 PM
Kubiak calls him a developmental QB.

In other words, "I think I can teach this guy and then trade him for a third or fourth round pick."

Think: Henson, Drew.

mexican_texan
04-27-2008, 10:15 PM
In other words, "I think I can teach this guy and then trade him for a third or fourth round pick."

Think: Henson, Drew.
Actually, think AJ Feely or Matt Schaub.

beerlover
04-27-2008, 10:29 PM
clearly Kubiak gets his pick.

I'm all in favour of drafting a developmental QB, the Texans with coaching pedigree (Kubiak, takes one to know one) should generate postive returns on his investment. This is most likely Sage last season with the Texans (expect him to go via trade prior to season opener or at least before the trade deadline to some begging franchise) & Gray seeking exposure (hopefully for him his next big contract) it makes alot of sense to sign a QB to the practice squad to develop, heck even if you use a roster slot at the very least Kubiak could generate a higher pick next draft for him.

Texans need to take advanatage of their own resources & QB development is a strong point. :smiliedance:

Norg
04-27-2008, 11:17 PM
I did not like this pick why why why

WHat a waste

Drafting a QB will not help us win the 2009 season bad move IMO

threetoedpete
04-27-2008, 11:23 PM
Camp arm....if he makes the grade he earns a PS slot. The kid is a string bean. Feed him up, get him into the weight room, coach him up, let's see what we have in '09. Gruden did the same thing today. He's got two he's going to have to cut loose in '09.

LZ
04-28-2008, 10:36 AM
We had good shots today at some good talent and chose a SS and QB of no import to this team or of much talent .


Getting all worked up over 6th and 7th rounders is just silly in my opinion. Look at how many teams have been able to take backup QBs and parlay them into higher draft picks. If he gets cut, who cares? However, if he turns out to be a surprise, you might be able to turn him into a 3rd rounder. It's a simple case of trying to find a pick who offers you a higher ceiling then just a guy who might be a practice squad guy for a year before getting cut. If it doesn't work out, you haven't really risked anything.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2008, 11:16 AM
Kubiak saw something in Sage when he was considered a wash-out who couldn't take a QB job away from Fiedler or Feely. He was able to work him up into probably the best backup QB in the league and a guy that a lot of people are looking at as a starter in this league.

If Kubiak sees something in this guy, then maybe he can work him up into something special, too.

I was shocked by the pick and really didn't agree with it (and I thought there were some guys out there that we could probably use), but I can't really knock Kubiak for going after his guy.

Oh.

Wait.

I'm a fan. Of course I can knock Kubiak for going after his guy. My bad.

:texflag:

Ole Miss Texan
04-28-2008, 11:28 AM
I was a bit perplexed by this pick as well. I think all of your picks are important and you have to take advantage of every opportunity you have to get better players on your team, but at the same time we don't need to be this upset over a 7th rd pick. I do think it's a good sign for our team and management that the pick we're upset about is our 7th rounder. At the end of the day, Smith and Kubiak are the ones that know more about these player/prospects than any of us. They are the ones that know more about the team, where the team is headed, our shorterm and longterm ideas, etc.

Would I have looked at some of the players yall talk about, of course, but I also recognize that Smith knows more about these players and our team than we do. All the teams passed on the players- not to say they aren't good but still, all of them passed on them.

If Kubiak sees promise in Brink then fine, spend our 7th to secure him. Chances are like someone mentioned, it'd be harder to sign an undrafted fa QB.

Maybe, some team calls for Sage at the start of the season or during the season as they realize they NEED a QB or one of theirs got injured. Smith is keeping his options open which is the best thing he can do.

Specnatz
04-28-2008, 11:59 AM
Getting all worked up over 6th and 7th rounders is just silly in my opinion. Look at how many teams have been able to take backup QBs and parlay them into higher draft picks. If he gets cut, who cares? However, if he turns out to be a surprise, you might be able to turn him into a 3rd rounder. It's a simple case of trying to find a pick who offers you a higher ceiling then just a guy who might be a practice squad guy for a year before getting cut. If it doesn't work out, you haven't really risked anything.

Now Lance you know darn good and well that adding logic into a discussion about a 7th round pick is entirely not acceptable. I reject your logic and insert my own...........






errr wait I agree with you, never mind carry on.

Hervoyel
04-28-2008, 01:37 PM
Trade Sage!:chickendance:

It's still not too late. I could see the Texans going into the season with Schaub, Gray, and Brink. I could see John McClain writing "Texans On The Brink!" at the top of an article blasting the team for trading Sage if Schaub and Gray go down.

It's too possible to think about really.

Still, I'm not going to be completely convinced that Sage is here for 2009 until we make it into the preseason and even then it's remotely possible that if a QB gets hurt he could get the call.

I believe that if Sage doesn't get traded then Brink may have a better chance of making this team than Gray. That's kind of out there but still, I think it could happen.

Specnatz
04-28-2008, 01:48 PM
It's still not too late. I could see the Texans going into the season with Schaub, Gray, and Brink. I could see John McClain writing "Texans On The Brink!" at the top of an article blasting the team for trading Sage if Schaub and Gray go down.

It's too possible to think about really.

Still, I'm not going to be completely convinced that Sage is here for 2009 until we make it into the preseason and even then it's remotely possible that if a QB gets hurt he could get the call.

I believe that if Sage doesn't get traded then Brink may have a better chance of making this team than Gray. That's kind of out there but still, I think it could happen.


I have seen some of your post reguarding Brink and I am confussed, I can not tell if your being sarcastic or if you are being truthful. Just wondering so I know.

WesmanTexanfan
04-28-2008, 01:57 PM
Maybe he is our 2nd QB to TE convert.....

Hervoyel
04-28-2008, 02:23 PM
I'm having a little fun. I mean, since Tom Brady became "Superman" after being picked inthe 6th round I figure all bets are off and every guy selected late like that might just.....

Plus I don't look at the 7th round like it's the bottom of the barrell. Why back in my day you young whipper snappers would have waited for days to find out who your teams 14th round pick was. News was delivered by Pony Express and that's just how long it took.

Seriously, it's not what I'd call a draft full of guys you go "Oh cool! We got __________? YES!" Good picks, good draft but nothing to get excited about. I've got two months to kill before anything interesting happens again so I'm on the Brink Bandwagon!

Texans_Chick
04-28-2008, 02:32 PM
Getting all worked up over 6th and 7th rounders is just silly in my opinion. Look at how many teams have been able to take backup QBs and parlay them into higher draft picks. If he gets cut, who cares? However, if he turns out to be a surprise, you might be able to turn him into a 3rd rounder. It's a simple case of trying to find a pick who offers you a higher ceiling then just a guy who might be a practice squad guy for a year before getting cut. If it doesn't work out, you haven't really risked anything.

This post wins the thread.

You win the following: :splits: :specnatz: :smiliedance:

HOU-TEX
04-28-2008, 02:38 PM
This post wins the thread.

You win the following: :specnatz:

"Lance and Spec sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G" LMAO! JK Spec:doot:

Vinny
04-28-2008, 02:46 PM
some Brink footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5JwxaeQSJE

Specnatz
04-28-2008, 02:49 PM
"Lance and Spec sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G" LMAO! JK Spec:doot:

:spit:


I just hope to god we are on a double date other wise I am falling out the tree.

pappy
04-28-2008, 04:55 PM
Here's one rationale to draft a QB. With Schaub, Rosenfels, & Gray already on the roster, it would be difficult to grab a decent UDFA QB. Most would look for a spot where they could compete for the 3rd QB spot. And if a trade possibility opens up during the preseason, the Texans might need a 3rd QB. So let's not trash Smith & Kubiak just yet.

I find this to be a logical argument , thank you .:fans:

triplethreat
04-28-2008, 05:27 PM
Doesn't seem to lock on to his recievers like other QB's he didn't look so bad there.

triplethreat
04-28-2008, 05:40 PM
Doesn't seem to lock on to his recievers like other QB's he didn't look so bad there.

But then again this game was awful http://youtube.com/watch?v=UEec4JvvYzA&feature=related

whiskeyrbl
04-28-2008, 06:02 PM
I will apoligize at the begining if someone already said this, as I did not read all the post. I can't stop thinking with the signing of Gray and the drafting of this kid that we are going to trade Rosenfels. Maybe for the DE we did not get in this draft or maybe future picks. Then again I may be completely off target. However it is a posibility that is hanging out there.

Wolf
04-28-2008, 08:34 PM
Round Seven Alex Brink

Quarterback, Washington State, 6-2, 212, 223rd overall: Brink was Washington State's career passing leader in touchdowns (76) and yards (10,913), impressive stats when considering Ryan Leaf and Drew Bledsoe were Cougars who were first-round picks. Scouts said Brink lacked a strong arm and had only marginal accuracy, but is a competitor.


http://www.star-telegram.com/329/story/608012.html

WesmanTexanfan
04-28-2008, 08:38 PM
Maybe they really liked his character, hard worker or somthing.....


Im really intrested in seeing him play now.....

Revolution
04-28-2008, 09:04 PM
No they were not , the LT is a project and we needed more than one DB , where is the DE ?

So, I guess you read somewhere that Duane Brown is a project, so automatically this is a bad pick? Thanks, glad I don't need to watch any football this coming season. I won't lie and say how much tape I have seen on Brown, but I will say that the things I have read lead me to believe he is perfect for Gibbs system...

sorry for the off-topic post...

pappy
04-28-2008, 09:19 PM
So, I guess you read somewhere that Duane Brown is a project, so automatically this is a bad pick? Thanks, glad I don't need to watch any football this coming season. I won't lie and say how much tape I have seen on Brown, but I will say that the things I have read lead me to believe he is perfect for Gibbs system...

sorry for the off-topic post...

Guess you received all those rep's by hijacking other peoples threads ?:goodpost: I never said brown was a bad pick "you did" <------ Automatically

nunusguy
04-29-2008, 08:56 PM
Brink was the only player from WSU, University of Washington, Eastern Washington, Western Washington or Central Washington to get drafted this year. It marked the first time since 1940 that the annual draft included only one player from a Washington school.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080428/SPORTS/94893798/1004
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Seems like our new QB saved the whole state of Wasington from a shutout.

kiwitexansfan
04-29-2008, 09:03 PM
Three words....


Bradlee Van Pelt.


Kubiak likes warm bodies with an arm and legs that can move said arm about.

Rex King
04-30-2008, 03:54 PM
I wonder if Kubiak sees a little of himself in Brink, smart but without the physical tools. A guy who can carry a clipboard for a decade.

hollywood_texan
04-30-2008, 04:12 PM
Getting all worked up over 6th and 7th rounders is just silly in my opinion. Look at how many teams have been able to take backup QBs and parlay them into higher draft picks. If he gets cut, who cares? However, if he turns out to be a surprise, you might be able to turn him into a 3rd rounder. It's a simple case of trying to find a pick who offers you a higher ceiling then just a guy who might be a practice squad guy for a year before getting cut. If it doesn't work out, you haven't really risked anything.

Outside of the Hansen pick, which was specifically motivated because of trade bait, the Texans organization have spent too much on the QB position and have hung on too long.

I am not banging on Schaub, it's just the timing wasn't right considering where the team was at when they did that trade.

A great example of the Texans not parlaying value at the QB position is if the Rosenfels trade rumors are true before the draft.

I really don't have an issue with the Brink pick in the 7th. We'll have to see what happens.

The last thing the Texans have shown though, has been handling the QB position properly and creating value to make the team better by leveraging talent at the position while taking some calculating risks.

CloakNNNdagger
04-30-2008, 06:33 PM
Outside of the Hansen pick, which was specifically motivated because of trade bait, the Texans organization have spent too much on the QB position and have hung on too long.

I am not banging on Schaub, it's just the timing wasn't right considering where the team was at when they did that trade.

A great example of the Texans not parlaying value at the QB position is if the Rosenfels trade rumors are true before the draft.

I really don't have an issue with the Brink pick in the 7th. We'll have to see what happens.

The last thing the Texans have shown though, has been handling the QB position properly and creating value to make the team better by leveraging talent at the position while taking some calculating risks.


Thus far, it would be hard bent not to consider these circumstances to be describing the Schaub scenario.

hollywood_texan
04-30-2008, 06:58 PM
Outside of the Hansen pick, which was specifically motivated because of trade bait, the Texans organization have spent too much on the QB position and have hung on too long.

I am not banging on Schaub, it's just the timing wasn't right considering where the team was at when they did that trade.

A great example of the Texans not parlaying value at the QB position is if the Rosenfels trade rumors are true before the draft.

I really don't have an issue with the Brink pick in the 7th. We'll have to see what happens.

The last thing the Texans have shown though, has been handling the QB position properly and creating value to make the team better by leveraging talent at the position while taking some calculating risks.


Thus far, it would be hard bent not to consider these circumstances to be describing the Schaub scenario.

Anyone could easily argue that the Texans could have gone 8-8 last year without Schaub.

Which demonstrates my bigger point, which is that the Texans keep pouring more and more into the QB position with a very low rate of return.

I am not against Schaub, but the deal was too expensive and it wasn't the right time to pull that off considering the risks versus reward.

No one can argue that the Schaub trade has been success yet. It all remains to be seen. Otherwise, Rosenfels would have been shipped off for a draft pick.

Which gets back to the point I was trying to make about the QB position in the Texans history and parlaying value out of the position. It just hasn't happened outside of the Hansen trade. I don't even think Hansen even suited up for the Texans anyway and was drafted as trade bait in the first place.

ObsiWan
04-30-2008, 07:01 PM
From his description it sounds like he's an overachiever competitive type. If i'm not mistaken Quinn Gray is the type of guy who isn't very motivated sometimes and doesn't work as hard as he should to be a better qb?

I guess Brink is brought in to push Gray and let him know his spot on the roster isn't a gimme. When Gray turns up his play and earns his spot then put Brink on the practice squad and let him compete for a roster spot in 09.

Brink is strictly a Kubiak pet project. Shane Boyd - who looks like the better athlete to me - is probably out of practice squad eligiblity.

ObsiWan
04-30-2008, 07:02 PM
I wonder if Kubiak sees a little of himself in Brink, smart but without the physical tools. A guy who can carry a clipboard for a decade.

probably

kastofsna
04-30-2008, 07:04 PM
Kubiak sees the next Elway here, obviously.

adam
04-30-2008, 07:07 PM
Brink is strictly a Kubiak pet project. Shane Boyd - who looks like the better athlete to me - is probably out of practice squad eligiblity.

He is. I would assume that either he will be a 4th stringer (or 3rd should the FO decide to do something with Sage).

bah007
04-30-2008, 08:37 PM
He is. I would assume that either he will be a 4th stringer (or 3rd should the FO decide to do something with Sage).

I'm guessing Boyd is gonna be cut.

He has been with four teams in three years & has never managed to get on the field.

He is a great athlete, but he does not have the tools necessary to be an NFL QB.

adam
04-30-2008, 09:20 PM
I'm guessing Boyd is gonna be cut.

He has been with four teams in three years & has never managed to get on the field.

He is a great athlete, but he does not have the tools necessary to be an NFL QB.

It's certainly possible. In fact, it's likely. I keep forgetting we signed Quinn Gray. Then again, I wouldn't say that Gray is particularly better than Boyd. I could see either, or both getting cut.

bah007
04-30-2008, 09:54 PM
It's certainly possible. In fact, it's likely. I keep forgetting we signed Quinn Gray. Then again, I wouldn't say that Gray is particularly better than Boyd. I could see either, or both getting cut.

I disagree. I don't think there is any chance Gray is cut before Boyd.

Gray has a career QB Rating of 88.5 & Boyd has never stepped on a NFL field.

Gray has shown flashes of NFL material, & I haven't seen anything from Boyd besides athletic ability.

kiwitexansfan
04-30-2008, 11:27 PM
Outside of the Hansen pick, which was specifically motivated because of trade bait, the Texans organization have spent too much on the QB position and have hung on too long.

I think that taking Hansen as trade bait was great value becuase you get three people talented people (although undersized) for the price of one and there are some real MMM Bop fans amongst GM's in the NFL.

http://snoot.org/i/wuss/hanson.jpg

The Henson pick was ok too.

kastofsna
05-01-2008, 12:19 AM
couple of hotties right there.

Wolf
05-01-2008, 02:49 AM
Brown said he has no plans of leaving Tech early for an NFL career. When the NFL does come calling in April 2008, Brown will need a Brinks truck, Hill said.


that is why he was drafted LOL
http://www.roanoke.com/sports/vtfootball/wb/90900

beerlover
05-01-2008, 03:49 AM
[QUOTE=CloakNNNdagger;910417]

Anyone could easily argue that the Texans could have gone 8-8 last year without Schaub.

Which demonstrates my bigger point, which is that the Texans keep pouring more and more into the QB position with a very low rate of return.

I am not against Schaub, but the deal was too expensive and it wasn't the right time to pull that off considering the risks versus reward.

No one can argue that the Schaub trade has been success yet. It all remains to be seen. Otherwise, Rosenfels would have been shipped off for a draft pick.

Which gets back to the point I was trying to make about the QB position in the Texans history and parlaying value out of the position. It just hasn't happened outside of the Hansen trade. I don't even think Hansen even suited up for the Texans anyway and was drafted as trade bait in the first place.

everything, I mean everything was riding in getting Carr out of town (nobody wanted him) a solution had to be found in the worst kind of way, you can't tell me there is any price too great to back-out of that decision? yes its still haunts us but I believe we're free & clear (dead money & 2nd rd. draft picks back) after this year :headhurts:

when healthy Schaub has looked pretty good, missed a few passes but the pressure seems to get to him easily, once they resolve his pass protection with Gibbs I expect much better performance.

look at what the Texans had to pay to aquire Sage....nothing & teams are offering 3rd picks. picked up Gray for near league minimum now a 7th rd. QB who broke all Cougar (WSU) passing records (that nobody knows anything about) displays pocket poise, has natural leadership qualities, makes good decisions, has quick release/set-up & can read coverages.

sounds more like Matt Ryan to me or a skinny, slow kid from Michigan drafted in the 6th rd. :)

bah007
05-01-2008, 12:29 PM
[QUOTE=hollywood_texan;910421]...now a 7th rd. QB who broke all Cougar (WSU) passing records (that nobody knows anything about) displays pocket poise, has natural leadership qualities, makes good decisions, has quick release/set-up & can read coverages.

sounds more like Matt Ryan to me or a skinny, slow kid from Michigan drafted in the 6th rd. :)

Let's not go there yet, but it's good to see that I'm not the only person on this board that is excited about Brink.

I saw him play in college, and he is no scrub.

If he gets cut, big deal. A 7th rounder that didn't make the roster! Holy smokes! Call the press!

If he makes the team, and gets a few years under Kubiak, then we can either turn him into trade bait or let him contend for the QB job.

Just because Schaub is the man, doesn't mean he shouldn't have to compete for his job just like everyone else.

Specnatz
05-01-2008, 12:55 PM
I think that taking Hansen as trade bait was great value becuase you get three people talented people (although undersized) for the price of one and there are some real MMM Bop fans amongst GM's in the NFL.

http://snoot.org/i/wuss/hanson.jpg

The Henson pick was ok too.

After seeing Hanson at SXSW in Austin in Febuary, you would be surprised by the music they play now as adults. It is not that bebop BS.

Goldensilence
05-01-2008, 02:14 PM
I'm not sure exactly why some people are so upset about drafting Alex Brink.

I think we need to be realistic about the QB situation.

Sage Rosenfels is a quality backup that wants another shot at a starting gig. His contract ends this coming year and it's possible with some of the hiccups other teams might have with their QB situations we might get a trade. Either way I think it a very strong possibility Sage is gone next year.

Quinn Gray signed a one year deal. I think as TC progresses we'll see what we're going to get with him. Could well be a one year and gone contract.

If he makes it to the PS we will have a guy that will at least have some time with Kubiak and knows what to expect when called upon next year to step it up and make the team as a 3rd stringer.

El Tejano
05-01-2008, 02:57 PM
I think we are just getting our #3 ready for when we get anything for Sage next offseason.

eriadoc
05-01-2008, 03:33 PM
[QUOTE=beerlover;910591]

Let's not go there yet, but it's good to see that I'm not the only person on this board that is excited about Brink.

I saw him play in college, and he is no scrub.

If he gets cut, big deal. A 7th rounder that didn't make the roster! Holy smokes! Call the press!

If he makes the team, and gets a few years under Kubiak, then we can either turn him into trade bait or let him contend for the QB job.

Just because Schaub is the man, doesn't mean he shouldn't have to compete for his job just like everyone else.

^

What he said.

threetoedpete
05-01-2008, 10:58 PM
I'm not sure exactly why some people are so upset about drafting Alex Brink.

I think we need to be realistic about the QB situation.

Sage Rosenfels is a quality backup that wants another shot at a starting gig. His contract ends this coming year and it's possible with some of the hiccups other teams might have with their QB situations we might get a trade. Either way I think it a very strong possibility Sage is gone next year.

Quinn Gray signed a one year deal. I think as TC progresses we'll see what we're going to get with him. Could well be a one year and gone contract.

If he makes it to the PS we will have a guy that will at least have some time with Kubiak and knows what to expect when called upon next year to step it up and make the team as a 3rd stringer.

Nice post. The main point is: they're going to offer rosenfelds...but they drafted to let him walk and find his team. this orginazation is bulding rep among the players. The comon theme of the smithiack era is they do not scew veterans over to get seventh round compensation scraps. One of these off season we're going to get into a hot bidding war over some hot shot vet and the rep will pull the Texans over the wall...the vet will take less money to come play for a veteran freindly team.

beerlover
05-02-2008, 01:54 AM
Nice post. The main point is: they're going to offer rosenfelds...but they drafted to let him walk and find his team. this orginazation is bulding rep among the players. The comon theme of the smithiack era is they do not scew veterans over to get seventh round compensation scraps. One of these off season we're going to get into a hot bidding war over some hot shot vet and the rep will pull the Texans over the wall...the vet will take less money to come play for a veteran freindly team.

dead on threetoe, this is a class organization thats on course to carry some serious mojo going forward, stuff of dynasty's :logo:

da Bull
05-02-2008, 08:33 AM
Not so sure your thoughts on Rosenfels walking to find his own team after this season are correct. He is signed through 2009 (2 years). However along those same lines, he or his agent may find a suitor after mini-camps have exposed teams lacking NFL quality quarterbacks. Just a thought.