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Htownsportsfan
04-27-2008, 03:31 PM
Well with the drafting of slayton who is going to be the odd man (men) out? Taylor, Green Brown, Slayton and Walker no way we have 5 guys on the squad.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2008, 03:35 PM
Chris Brown and Slaton are the only two that are assured of positions.

Green might be a June 1st cut. If he's not, then either Walker or Taylor won't make it out of camp.

adam
04-27-2008, 03:37 PM
Well, I would prefer it be Ahman Green - but that's not likely to happen. My guess would be either Brown or, most unfortunately, Walker. Kubiak, for whatever reason, is very high on Taylor and would probably like to hang onto him. The penalty for cutting Green would be much too steep. This leaves Brown and Walker.

Brown is injury prone and has yet to prove that he is worth the roster spot. IMO, I don't think he is worth much more in depth than Walker or Taylor. I could see him not making it past training camp. The other option is Walker, who put up fairly good numbers last season and proved to be quite effective, especially in the passing game.

Htownsportsfan
04-27-2008, 03:38 PM
Chris Brown and Slaton are the only two that are assured of positions.

Green might be a June 1st cut. If he's not, then either Walker or Taylor won't make it out of camp.


I can see cutting Green for the money bu tthey have been so high on Tyalor all this time, and he is still cheap I would be surprised if they cut him. What about Walker?

Spled
04-27-2008, 03:38 PM
They may cut Green like they did Antowain Smith.

RTP2110
04-27-2008, 03:42 PM
I don't see walker and Taylor both on the roster. One or the other of them will be cut IMO. Same with Green & Brown, it's one or the other. I think we will have those two winners and Slaton on the roster.

Specnatz
04-27-2008, 03:58 PM
I honestly do not see Taylor on the roster.

Mr teX
04-27-2008, 04:09 PM
Taylor & Walker are gone.

Htownsportsfan
04-27-2008, 04:12 PM
When do cuts have to be made to save against the cap?

I just dont see them cutting Taylor as much as they seem to love him unlesss he looks bad during camp. Hoever if they are going to cut Green dont they need to do it before June 1 to say cap money?

Specnatz
04-27-2008, 04:22 PM
When do cuts have to be made to save against the cap?

I just dont see them cutting Taylor as much as they seem to love him unlesss he looks bad during camp. Hoever if they are going to cut Green dont they need to do it before June 1 to say cap money?


You can cut two players now and designate them as June 1st cuts. If not you can cut them on June 1.

Silver Oak
04-27-2008, 04:35 PM
I don't know who will be gone, but damn it's nice to have some really good competition at that spot isn't it?

ubecool454
04-27-2008, 04:53 PM
Taylor & Walker are gone.

Dude..Taylor is not going anywhere...I think Walker is gone if they all come out of TC healthy and it comes down to overall talent.

RagingBull
04-27-2008, 04:56 PM
They will start off with Slaton on the practice squad and when Ahman Green goes on injured reserve the third week he will move up. That way, no one has to be cut.

TiredOfSuffering
04-27-2008, 05:02 PM
If we cut Green after signing his ancient ass to a ridiculous contract Smith should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY.

Signing Moulds, Green, all those zillion year vets who are going to be in wheelchairs by the time we make the playoffs, then cutting them, just pisses me off.

DO NOT sign veteran players who aren't going to be here in three years when we're making a playoff run. It's worthless. Sign and play young kids. Even if we lose more games it just means higher draft positions, and we're getting a look at somebody who might make the team long-term and really help us.

Christ...

adam
04-27-2008, 05:03 PM
They will start off with Slaton on the practice squad and when Ahman Green goes on injured reserve the third week he will move up. That way, no one has to be cut.

Unlikely. If anyone is going to be spending time on the practice squad, it will be Walker, sadly enough.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2008, 05:04 PM
If we cut Green after signing his ancient ass to a ridiculous contract Smith should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY.

Signing Moulds, Green, all those zillion year vets who are going to be in wheelchairs by the time we make the playoffs, then cutting them, just pisses me off.

DO NOT sign veteran players who aren't going to be here in three years when we're making a playoff run. It's worthless. Sign and play young kids. Even if we lose more games it just means higher draft positions, and we're getting a look at somebody who might make the team long-term and really help us.

Christ...

This is a ridiculous post. I was actually tempted to give out negative rep on this one.

adam
04-27-2008, 05:09 PM
If we cut Green after signing his ancient ass to a ridiculous contract Smith should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY.

Signing Moulds, Green, all those zillion year vets who are going to be in wheelchairs by the time we make the playoffs, then cutting them, just pisses me off.

DO NOT sign veteran players who aren't going to be here in three years when we're making a playoff run. It's worthless. Sign and play young kids. Even if we lose more games it just means higher draft positions, and we're getting a look at somebody who might make the team long-term and really help us.

Christ...

No one signs players with the belief that they'll be gone in a matter of a few years. Transactions just do not work out as planned, and Green; needless to say was a massive disappointment.

I would rather not lose more games. After seven years of talks about "next season" and "the long run", I am no longer okay with the idea of sacrificing wins to progress players. The job of the GM is to bring as much talent to the team as possible. The presence of veterans, in most cases, creates more talent by bettering the younger guys.

J-Russ
04-27-2008, 05:09 PM
If we cut Green after signing his ancient ass to a ridiculous contract Smith should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY.

Signing Moulds, Green, all those zillion year vets who are going to be in wheelchairs by the time we make the playoffs, then cutting them, just pisses me off.

DO NOT sign veteran players who aren't going to be here in three years when we're making a playoff run. It's worthless. Sign and play young kids. Even if we lose more games it just means higher draft positions, and we're getting a look at somebody who might make the team long-term and really help us.

Christ...

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10062/banned-1.gif

Rex King
04-27-2008, 05:25 PM
I remember you from last year's draft Tiredofsuffering, maybe from the other board. Same line of posting. Are you just a pot-stirrer or what?

ObsiWan
04-27-2008, 05:34 PM
They will start off with Slaton on the practice squad and when Ahman Green goes on injured reserve the third week he will move up. That way, no one has to be cut.

ding! Ding! Ding!
We have a winner!

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-27-2008, 05:37 PM
There is ZERO chance Slaton gets put on the practice squad. The guy was picked in the 3rd round. Someone would come in and sign him to a contract in a heartbeat.

Ryan
04-27-2008, 05:42 PM
I think Walker is gone. And if Taylor can report to camp healthy, then i think Green will be cut as well. So that would leave us with the depth chart at

1. Brown
2. Slaton
3. Taylor


maybe flip 2 and 3 around.

Texans Horror
04-27-2008, 05:42 PM
They will start off with Slaton on the practice squad and when Ahman Green goes on injured reserve the third week he will move up. That way, no one has to be cut.

ding! Ding! Ding!
We have a winner!

Totally agree. Injuries will send these guys off the field, and now the Texans have a full stable of runners to substitute for each other. Plus, I see the Texans using multiple backs anyway.

I still think that if things had worked out ideally, Green would have been running for quarters 1-3 of the first 3/4th of the games. Dayne would be running in the fourth quarter, or once the lead got long, and would start taking over later in the season. The way I see it, the Texans now have the backs to implement this kind of system. Slaton was an excellent pick.

281
04-27-2008, 05:44 PM
They will start off with Slaton on the practice squad and when Ahman Green goes on injured reserve the third week he will move up. That way, no one has to be cut.

:elle: we drafted slaton to play NOW, and he's going to do that. walker is the odd man out, and it's not even CLOSE.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-27-2008, 05:44 PM
You guys do know that other teams can sign players off your practice squad right? Putting Slaton on the practice squad would be like giftwrapping him for another team because there is no doubt in my mind someone would scoop him up.

281
04-27-2008, 05:44 PM
There is ZERO chance Slaton gets put on the practice squad. The guy was picked in the 3rd round. Someone would come in and sign him to a contract in a heartbeat.

exactly... that would be probably the stupidest move EVER.

jaayteetx
04-27-2008, 06:21 PM
I think Walker is gone. And if Taylor can report to camp healthy, then i think Green will be cut as well. So that would leave us with the depth chart at

1. Brown
2. Slaton
3. Taylor


maybe flip 2 and 3 around.

I think we go a winner here!

TexansFanatic
04-27-2008, 06:48 PM
I think Walker is gone. And if Taylor can report to camp healthy, then i think Green will be cut as well. So that would leave us with the depth chart at

1. Brown
2. Slaton
3. Taylor


maybe flip 2 and 3 around.

I see these three being the final three as well, but I think Slaton might be third in the early going and maybe flipping with Taylor before long.

camron1269
04-27-2008, 06:49 PM
no chance slaton starts on the practice squad. not a 3rd round pick.
ahman will get cut hopefully. i think sherman had a lot to do with getting him here and hes at A&M now. if not, taylor is gone.
we wont cut brown. brown is good.
brown and slaton are sure things and i think walker might be as well. hes cheap and pretty good.

Htownsportsfan
04-27-2008, 06:52 PM
Admittedly I dont understand the salary cap hit for sutting Green. Is it better to cut him before June 1st, which of course means no camp to see how his health is, or can we wait until cut down time. It sure would be nice if we could bring all of the guys to camp and let them compete for the job. I want to see of Taylor is really worth all the time Kubiak and Smith have spent defending him.

TexanSam
04-27-2008, 06:52 PM
I think Ahman Green is the odd man out as well. He's old. He was a horrible signing. He's been injured. I just don't see him making the team.

I think Chris Brown will be our starter. Chris Taylor and Darius Walker will battle in training camp for the #2 spot and Slaton will be 3rd on the depth chart.

Htownsportsfan
04-27-2008, 06:53 PM
If we cut Green after signing his ancient ass to a ridiculous contract Smith should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY.

Signing Moulds, Green, all those zillion year vets who are going to be in wheelchairs by the time we make the playoffs, then cutting them, just pisses me off.

DO NOT sign veteran players who aren't going to be here in three years when we're making a playoff run. It's worthless. Sign and play young kids. Even if we lose more games it just means higher draft positions, and we're getting a look at somebody who might make the team long-term and really help us.

Christ...


By that logic does that mean even if we do sign a bad player we should just suck it up instead of cutting or losses.

steelbtexan
04-27-2008, 07:15 PM
Green
Brown
Slaton
Taylor as a HB-FB hybrid

Cook wil be cut
Walker wil go to the PS

Rex King
04-27-2008, 08:08 PM
Green
Brown
Slaton
Taylor as a HB-FB hybrid

Cook wil be cut
Walker wil go to the PS

I was thinking it would be interesting if they could line up Slaton together with Taylor in a two-back set.

Foo'ball Fool
04-27-2008, 08:14 PM
Slaton's in; thats a no-brainer. I'd forgotten that they were interested in Taylor lining up @ FB. For that reason, he may have a chance. But I think in camp, no matter what, it'll be fish-or-cut-bait for him. Can HE stay healthy? I'm going to be interested in what they do with Green/Brown. Maybe the first one to get hurt is out, the other is in, putting one in the backfield with Taylor & Slaton. I have a feeling that Slaton will be starting by mid-season, if not sooner, anyway.

ATXtexanfan
04-27-2008, 08:16 PM
i like walker, wish him the best

edo783
04-27-2008, 08:34 PM
I think the one kid gets designated as FB. We keep 3 RBs and 2 FBs. Cook is gone and Walker, if he has PS time left, goes there. Otherwise he is toast, until Green or Brown are out injured. Then he comes back. Green might be cut as a June 1 guy, but I doubt it. Kubes is very loyal to vets and will give him his chance to play healthy. However long that might be.

leebigeztx
04-27-2008, 09:04 PM
If u look at denver when kubes was there, they always carried 5 rbs and like 2 fbs. They'll have green,brown,taylor,leach,and the other fb active, walker inactive and slaton on practice. Just because he was drafted in the 3rd, he has to earn his pt. slaton is cool, but we're not talking about the next payton or anything.

Htownsportsfan
04-27-2008, 09:17 PM
Well if Shanny and Smith have been telling the truth to McClain accoring to his blog today Shanny says Green is healthy and they are excited about seeing him in camp. McClain says(grain of salt) Texans will carry four since all have a history of injury being Green, Brown, Taylor and Slayton making Walker the odd man out!

Specnatz
04-27-2008, 09:43 PM
Why are people wanting to move one of the RB to FB when we will have 3 going into camp?

Jon Abbate
Jameel Cook
Vonta Leach

Now granted I do not think we will carry 3 on the roster during the regular season or the post-season.

thunderkyss
04-27-2008, 10:07 PM
I'm excited about seeing Ahman Green & Chris Brown this year.

Slaton may not get a chance to play.

281
04-27-2008, 10:22 PM
I'm excited about seeing Ahman Green & Chris Brown this year.

Slaton may not get a chance to play.

what makes you say that? we're probably keeping 4 RBs on the roster, and slaton is obviously going to be one of those guys. i have no idea why some of you guys think he's not gonna see the field... none.

Htownsportsfan
04-27-2008, 10:24 PM
I'm excited about seeing Ahman Green & Chris Brown this year.

Slaton may not get a chance to play.

Considering Green and Browns injury history he may have to play to much!

ccdude730
04-27-2008, 10:46 PM
i dont think they are going to cut green. ive been wrong before, but if we really wanted to move on without green, he would have been released and designated a june 1st cut in order for him to have enough time to find a team because i think our FO respects its veteran players.

IMO green, brown, taylor, and slaton make the active roster. but i think its also possible that we deal one away (green or taylor) or cut one of them (brown would be my pick)

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-27-2008, 11:44 PM
Or the Texans wanted to get his replacement via the draft before they decided Ahman Green was expendable.

threetoedpete
04-27-2008, 11:49 PM
Dave Anderson and Walker are probably both gone. I'm not in the room and I don't know for nothing....they've gotta keep an extra DT for the last eight games. If Fat's Okam can commit to losing some weight, he'll have a spot. Slaton is Shanahand's boy...he isn't going anywhere.

threetoedpete
04-27-2008, 11:52 PM
i dont think they are going to cut green. ive been wrong before, but if we really wanted to move on without green, he would have been released and designated a june 1st cut in order for him to have enough time to find a team because i think our FO respects its veteran players.

IMO green, brown, taylor, and slaton make the active roster. but i think its also possible that we deal one away (green or taylor) or cut one of them (brown would be my pick)


I don't think Green is going anywhere either or else they would of gambled on losing Brown and selected mendenhall. believe anything believe Brown wouldn't have been there at the 79.

edo783
04-28-2008, 06:11 AM
Cook is the one that's toast IMO. Taylor will be named a FB (they had him there a bit last year) and Walker likely goes to the PS until Green gets hurt which shouldn't be longer than week 2.

PapaL
04-28-2008, 06:31 AM
I dont think Walker is elgible for the PS. Wasn't he on the active roster a bunch of games last year?

Dallas_Texan
04-28-2008, 08:30 AM
Totally agree. Injuries will send these guys off the field, and now the Texans have a full stable of runners to substitute for each other. Plus, I see the Texans using multiple backs anyway.

I still think that if things had worked out ideally, Green would have been running for quarters 1-3 of the first 3/4th of the games. Dayne would be running in the fourth quarter, or once the lead got long, and would start taking over later in the season. The way I see it, the Texans now have the backs to implement this kind of system. Slaton was an excellent pick.

Unless there's someway to stop someone from signing a practice squad player there is no way this happens. If anyone Taylor will start on the PS. Not a third round pick.

adam
04-28-2008, 08:40 AM
I'm excited about seeing Ahman Green & Chris Brown this year.

Slaton may not get a chance to play.

For what reason? Even when Green was on the field his play was disappointingly mediocre, same deal with Brown.

I'm more excited to see what Slaton can do, as we've never had a RB with his sort of dynamics. You could compare him to DD/W, but Slaton is unquestionably quicker and more explosive. I think this kid could do wonders for the team's running game. His ceiling is certainly much higher than either Green's or Brown's is today.

RTP2110
04-28-2008, 10:01 AM
With Walker, I think it's practice squad or cut for him. I don't know if he is eligible for PS or not. IMO, he is the most likely of the group to be let go. The more I think about, the more likely it seems they may keep all of the other 4 guys. Green and Taylor now both have injury concerns.

Just like it looks like they will carry 3 QBs, I think they will carry 4 RBs just for injury insurance. I know for sure they don't want to go into a game with Shane Boyd and Joe Echemandu. That almost happened last year. Ok not almost, but it was within the realm of possibility.

Hardcore Texan
04-28-2008, 10:05 AM
I am really looking forward to that 1 quarter of the first game where we get to see Brown and Green play. Should be great. We will get to see if Slaton can carry the load in the second half.


Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

I think Walker and Green will be gone.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2008, 10:11 AM
For what reason? Even when Green was on the field his play was disappointingly mediocre, same deal with Brown.


I don't entirely agree with this. When Green was healthy and feeling good last year, he looked pretty good. Even when he wasn't all that healthy, he still looked good at times. That 50 yard screen pass against the Raiders was nice and would have been better if he had been healthy. He had stretches where he was running hard and looking good.

Andrew6
04-28-2008, 01:49 PM
I honestly don't see Taylor making the team. I think that Walker has made a case for himself and depending on how he does in training camp he may continue to have a job. I also remember about this time last year we were going wow I can't beleive he have a problem of " TOO MANY RB's". Barring injury we may be good at the RB position this year. Just remember Walker was cut and by the end of the season was playing most of the game.

HOU-TEX
04-28-2008, 01:58 PM
I honestly don't see Taylor making the team. I think that Walker has made a case for himself and depending on how he does in training camp he may continue to have a job. I also remember about this time last year we were going wow I can't beleive he have a problem of " TOO MANY RB's". Barring injury we may be good at the RB position this year. Just remember Walker was cut and by the end of the season was playing most of the game.

We truly won't know for sure until TC, but I see Walker and Cook being the odd men out. If (big if) Taylor remains healthy he'd be our swing between RB and a backup for Vonta. He'd have to contribute alot to STs too. Green and Brown will be the primary RBs and Slaton will contribute on 3rd down situations and heavy on STs.

There's still a slim chance Green will be whacked too.

This is only my opinion. :cool:

gjmac2
04-28-2008, 02:06 PM
Personally, I would keep Walker, Taylor and Slaton, and cut Brown and Green.

I doubt that they do this, but it would be what I do.

Ole Miss Texan
04-28-2008, 02:06 PM
I'm more of a guy that likes the hardnosed RB to pound the ball up the middle and run over guys (while still possessing quickness,vision, and moves) over the scat back type of back like a Bush, Jones, or Slaton...

With that said, I'm really excited to see Slaton play on our team and how we use him. No doubt he's a homerun threat and that's something Kubiak has been looking for.

Having Andre Johnson, Jacoby Jones, Andre Davis and Steve Slaton all on the field at the same time will sure cause a few headaches for defensive coordinators!

The more I think about our RB situation, the more i'm unsure of how many we keep. I think with Green/Brown being injury prone we need as many bodies as we can have.

DBCooper
04-28-2008, 02:35 PM
Well if Shanny and Smith have been telling the truth to McClain accoring to his blog today Shanny says Green is healthy and they are excited about seeing him in camp. McClain says(grain of salt) Texans will carry four since all have a history of injury being Green, Brown, Taylor and Slayton making Walker the odd man out!

This is the way I see it also.

IF Green stays healthy, and that's a big IF, he can still play.

Now cut and paste the last sentence and insert color Brown for color Green.

Slaton will be a third-down, in the slot, change of pace back. (He will play)

Taylor for backup of one of the previous colors.

Walker out.


Green and Brown stay healthy, and we have a really good backfield.

Ole Miss Texan
04-28-2008, 02:45 PM
Green and Brown stay healthy, and we have a really good backfield.

It really seems we've been plagued by injuries in the past. If this year is any different, we could have an outstanding team and like you said backfield too.

CloakNNNdagger
04-28-2008, 03:18 PM
We better hope that Green and/or Brown remains healthy (as a combination) through the year. If this occurs, and I do believe it will (as a combination), Slaton will be used as a change of pace and possibly 3rd down back. Slaton from what I've seen is a poor man's Reggie Bush (who knows, possibly better, but at a very reasonable cost). As such, he will likely strain between the tackles unless that "perfect hole" is created by the ZBS OL. His size will affect this and his pass blocking ability. Too many plays or too many between the tackle runs that do not "work out" and Slaton will, at best, be limited in endurance, and at worse be rendered to accept crutches as his main form of transportation. Green and Brown, when healthy have shown the ability to carry the load. In alternating combination, they should have a much better chance of staying healthy this season, making it less likely that we lament the lack of having a half dozen backup plans in the coral.

adam
04-28-2008, 05:22 PM
I don't entirely agree with this. When Green was healthy and feeling good last year, he looked pretty good. Even when he wasn't all that healthy, he still looked good at times. That 50 yard screen pass against the Raiders was nice and would have been better if he had been healthy. He had stretches where he was running hard and looking good.

Meh. I think his stats speak for it self:

3.7 YPC and 2 TDs in 6 games played. If you take out the one long play in Oakland, you have 70 receiving yards in 13 catches...and average of 5.4 yards per catch. Ultimately, Green was rather ineffective on the field. In fact, Ron Dayne (who everyone nagged on last year) was actually more productive than Green was.

infantrycak
04-28-2008, 05:30 PM
Meh. I think his stats speak for it self:

3.7 YPC and 2 TDs in 6 games played. If you take out the one long play in Oakland, you have 70 receiving yards in 13 catches...and average of 5.4 yards per catch. Ultimately, Green was rather ineffective on the field. In fact, Ron Dayne (who everyone nagged on last year) was actually more productive than Green was.

They played two games together for a heads up comparison.

Kansas City--Green 4.6 ypc, Dayne 2.5 ypc
Carolina--Green 4.7 ypc, Dayne 2.4 ypc.

When healthy, there is no comparison between the two.

GuerillaBlack
04-28-2008, 05:54 PM
I say, cut Abbate and Cook. Have Chris Taylor as a RB behind Leach, and keep Brown, Slaten, Green, and Walker.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2008, 06:13 PM
Meh. I think his stats speak for it self:

3.7 YPC and 2 TDs in 6 games played. If you take out the one long play in Oakland, you have 70 receiving yards in 13 catches...and average of 5.4 yards per catch. Ultimately, Green was rather ineffective on the field. In fact, Ron Dayne (who everyone nagged on last year) was actually more productive than Green was.

Go back and read what I wrote... "when he was healthy". In his first two games (when he was still relatively healthy), he was averaging over 4.5 yards per carry and iirc, in the first halves of those games, he was averaging about 5 yards per carry.

He was injured in the first game but played through it, aggravated it in the second game, and then really hurt himself in the 3rd. He kept trying to play through it. And that's why the stats look bad. After his injury, he didn't run well consistently although he still showed flashes.

You have to be careful with statistics because sometimes they're not saying what you think they're saying. If he's healthy, Green is probably the best back we have on this team. Brown might be close. We'll have to see about Slaton.

adam
04-28-2008, 06:13 PM
They played two games together for a heads up comparison.

Kansas City--Green 4.6 ypc, Dayne 2.5 ypc
Carolina--Green 4.7 ypc, Dayne 2.4 ypc.

When healthy, there is no comparison between the two.

Two games is not representative of a season, as proven by the end of season stats that show Dayne as the more effective back when starting. If we were to do it that way, I could only mention Dayne's last couple of games this past season and call him the most effective RB in team history.

Polo
04-28-2008, 06:18 PM
Two games is not representative of a season, as proven by the end of season stats that show Dayne as the more effective back when starting. If we were to do it that way, I could only mention Dayne's last couple of games this past season and call him the most effective RB in team history.

Dayne was more effective because he was able to stay healthy, not because he was the better back.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2008, 06:44 PM
They played two games together for a heads up comparison.

Kansas City--Green 4.6 ypc, Dayne 2.5 ypc
Carolina--Green 4.7 ypc, Dayne 2.4 ypc.

When healthy, there is no comparison between the two.



The vast majority of Dayne's carries in those two games came in the 4th quarter when the Texans were just trying to run out the clock and the opposing defense knew it.

GuerillaBlack
04-28-2008, 07:01 PM
The opposing defense was also tired, and the Texans had some fresh legs back there.

BigBull17
04-28-2008, 09:14 PM
Taylor, Green, Brown, and Slaton will be out 4 RBs. Leech is our FB, with out TE's taking up the slack if worse comes to worse.

Andrew6
05-04-2008, 02:01 AM
I say we just cut all of our running backs and just leave Ron Dayne in as a every down back and maybe throw in Shawn Alexander as a back up when Ron needs to take a lunch break. LOL:smiliedance:

mussop
05-04-2008, 02:16 AM
Slaton makes Walker dispensable.

threetoedpete
05-04-2008, 09:04 AM
Why are people wanting to move one of the RB to FB when we will have 3 going into camp?

Jon Abbate
Jameel Cook
Vonta Leach

Now granted I do not think we will carry 3 on the roster during the regular season or the post-season.

especially considering they love their TE's and they will keep Bruner & and an Extra DT this season. They ain't hacking the TE position. People have been cutting Cook for three years now; or is it four ? I'll believe it when I see it. Not saying he is untouchble...he does make special team plays. Special teams is already down with the loss of Mike Anderson & Hutchins. Barber and the new LB make it...they make it on special teams...first. That's where the empty slots are.

threetoedpete
05-04-2008, 09:13 AM
what makes you say that? we're probably keeping 4 RBs on the roster, and slaton is obviously going to be one of those guys. i have no idea why some of you guys think he's not gonna see the field... none.

He can't read or pick up a blitz ? That'd be one reason. I dunno. But the point is neither do you....or Shanahand. No one is going to know for sure untill this Summer. obvious ? don't know bout that one.

Allstar
05-04-2008, 01:57 PM
It seems pretty obvious to me that Walker is out. Kubiak seems high on both Taylor and Green. I believe he thinks IF Green can stay healthy, he can help us out a lot. The problem is that its a huge IF. We signed Brown after we brought in Gibbs because he was supposedly the ideal fit for our scheme, and Slaton is our third round draft pick that Shannahan is in love with. Walker made the most of his situation last year, but he only played because of injuries to Green, Taylor and Dayne (to an extent). What does he have to offer that the others don't?

281
05-04-2008, 02:09 PM
He can't read or pick up a blitz ? That'd be one reason. I dunno. But the point is neither do you....or Shanahand. No one is going to know for sure untill this Summer. obvious ? don't know bout that one.

dude... it's obvious. we need his gamebreaking speed and receiving skills in the WORST way, we've never had that type of back in houston... this is as obvious as obvious gets, barring injury, of course. i don't think he's going to be too responsible for pass protection seeing he's more of a third down back... we can place money on it if you'd like.

HPF Bob
05-04-2008, 02:51 PM
ahman will get cut hopefully. i think sherman had a lot to do with getting him here and hes at A&M now.

I'm not sure Ahman could start at A&M either....

ObsiWan
05-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Kubiak himself started that Chris Taylor to FB train of thought during last year's minicamps.

I'm thinking Green, Brown, Taylor, and Staton will be the last RBs standing. Like 3TP said, its likely that Cook will make the special teams again and be the backup FB to Leach. I'm not sure Abbate or Walker makes this year's cut.

But all this is so much speculation.
Can hardly wait for camp.

And didja hear where Mendenhall has already tweaked his hammy and was held out of the last two days of Steeler rookie camp?

kiwitexansfan
05-04-2008, 07:39 PM
I think you can bank on Slaton making the cut, he has a game breaker quality that the offense needs, he will be the 3rd down back.

Taylor I think makes the roster because Kubiak loves the kid and has been his biggest promoter the last few years.

I think Brown and Green are in a fight to the death for the other spot, and yes I think that one will start, one will be looking for other employment. I see Brown winning that competition.

We'll keep Leach and Cook as we seem to like to carry two FB's as Cook is a valuable ST guy.

PHAROAH
05-04-2008, 07:58 PM
Ahman Green may bounce back but I'm not sold and Chris Brown has never been able to stay healthy as well. I think steve slayton will be the starter by the end of training camp. I really thought that the cowboys did was on point with drafting two running backs. The texans should have drafted another running in the 6th round Like Thomas Brown or Chauncey Washington because I have no faith in Ahman Green or Chris Brown.

El Amigo Invisible
05-05-2008, 01:30 PM
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LOL

badboy
05-05-2008, 01:48 PM
Ahman Green should stay on roster until June 1st. He will then provide $3.8m in cap relief. He can be designated one of two June 1st cuts now but why?