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Cheroqui
12-08-2004, 01:54 AM
I'm curious to know what you all think may be the first 3 picks selected come draft day and in what positions? Also I saw the Edgerrin James post too and would like to know if you think we'll fill a RB spot through NFL or a rookie out of college?

Blake
12-08-2004, 11:22 AM
My signature says it all. And im not sure anyone knows what the Texans will do for RB. My gut tells me they will go with a rookie. Let him grow next year, and hopefully pull off a 5 year superbowl plan.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-08-2004, 11:46 AM
1. Ahmad Brooks
2. Gabe Watson
3. Kevin Everett

gwallaia
12-08-2004, 12:08 PM
Let me throw out this wacky idea.

With the #1 pick, the 49ers will either draft Matt Lienhart or trade away the pick. I get the feeling, the Dolphins at #2 will go after Cedric Benson. Would the Texans be crazy enough to work out a deal with the 49ers and grab Benson with the 1st pick?

TheOgre
12-08-2004, 12:16 PM
Let me throw out this wacky idea.

With the #1 pick, the 49ers will either draft Matt Lienhart or trade away the pick. I get the feeling, the Dolphins at #2 will go after Cedric Benson. Would the Texans be crazy enough to work out a deal with the 49ers and grab Benson with the 1st pick?

No because it would cost us about 3 1sts to move up there.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-08-2004, 12:23 PM
Yes, the Texans would have to be crazy to do that. That would most likely cost us our first, second, and one of our third round picks in addition to next years first round pick. That is just a rough estimate. It is a lot to risk for someone that is very similar to Ricky Williams, both on and off the field.

Cheroqui
12-08-2004, 12:34 PM
You're gonna have to forgive me on this one but, I'm not that deep into all the players in college to know exactly who all those prospects are. If you don't mind telling me what positions those 3-5 guys play I would appreciate it. Thanks

Lucky
12-08-2004, 12:48 PM
...i think the dolphins will consider trading their pick for philip rivers of the chargers...
That would be interesting considering how much Marino & Spielman loved Rivers going into last year draft. And I would think the Chargers would be up for it as well. But San Diego would take a big hit against the cap by trading Rivers as his signing bonus proration would accelerate. Don't know if they could afford to trade him. Also, I'm not sure who will be running the show in Miami by then and what they think about Rivers.

infantrycak
12-08-2004, 12:56 PM
i think the dolphins will consider trading their pick for philip rivers of the chargers, and the chargers could pick derrick johnson #2.

That would make sense, but the NFL cap is set up so that it is unlikely. If the Chargers trade Rivers all of his remaining unprorated signing bonus accelerates to this year, to the tune of $12.1 mil. Not impossible since they have $21 mil of cap space next year, but they will have to resign Brees or franchise him ($10 mil) as well because he is an UFA.

beerlover
12-08-2004, 01:33 PM
the decision to franchise or not to depends upon how much success he & the rest of his teamates enjoy the rest of the year into the playoffs. Its impossible to tell at this point, maybe they have odds in Vegas :heh:

Blake
12-08-2004, 02:39 PM
You're gonna have to forgive me on this one but, I'm not that deep into all the players in college to know exactly who all those prospects are. If you don't mind telling me what positions those 3-5 guys play I would appreciate it. Thanks

1. Ahmad Brooks, OLB, Virginia (Sophmore)
2. Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas (Junior)
3. Ben Wilkerson, C, L.S.U. (Senior)
3. Orien Harris, DT, Miami(FL) (Junior)
4. Frank Gore, RB, Miami(FL) (Junior)

Nawzer
12-08-2004, 03:13 PM
I was surfing some the draft sites and The Great Blue North has us taking Cadillac Williams with our first pick. I don't know if he'll last the long but I'll be happy if they do take him. Some other site has us taking Rodrique Wright, DT, out of UT.

infantrycak
12-08-2004, 03:19 PM
If the Texans were to take a RB in the 1st and both Williams and Brown were available I would lay money on them taking Ronnie Brown--bigger, already knows how to block (played FB some), soft hands, no significant injuries and as fast or faster.

texansfan88
12-08-2004, 04:11 PM
1. Ahmad Brooks, OLB, Virginia (Sophmore)
2. Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas (Junior)
3. Ben Wilkerson, C, L.S.U. (Senior)
3. Orien Harris, DT, Miami(FL) (Junior)
4. Frank Gore, RB, Miami(FL) (Junior)

Wow, I'm glad you're not a GM

A) Brooks has said he's staying
B) Scott has said he's staying
C) Wilkerson had season ending surgery and wont be ready for awhile
D) Orien had a terrible year and is staying
E) Frank Gore will be staying

Fiddy
12-08-2004, 04:24 PM
If the Texans were to take a RB in the 1st and both Williams and Brown were available I would lay money on them taking Ronnie Brown--bigger, already knows how to block (played FB some), soft hands, no significant injuries and as fast or faster.Ronnie Brown is who I want...

Blake
12-08-2004, 04:48 PM
Wow, I'm glad you're not a GM

A) Brooks has said he's staying
B) Scott has said he's staying
C) Wilkerson had season ending surgery and wont be ready for awhile
D) Orien had a terrible year and is staying
E) Frank Gore will be staying


haha, ok Texasfan88. Can you back up any of this talk? Or is that all you have?

astrofan
12-08-2004, 04:50 PM
1st: TE Heath Miller/ DE>OLB David Pollack/ DE>OLB Dan Cody
2nd ILB Barrett Ruud/ DT Haloti Ngata/ OG David Baas
3rd DT>DE Dusty Dvoracek/ ILB Adam Seward/ OT Daniel Loper
3rd OT Rob Petitti/ OT Michael Roos/ S Darnell Bing

That could change with injuries and FAs

Vinny
12-08-2004, 04:55 PM
This is a weak draft class and our mid 1st pick will be the quality of last year's second rounder. I'd go with the safest pick instead of the risky boom-or-bust type selection if we cannot find a way to trade up or trading for another 2005 first round pick. I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of dud's in this draft. I'm not married to a specific position for this reason. I just want the pick to be NFL starter quality.

As far as Ced Benson goes, his draft stock is directly tied into his 40 time at the combine or in individual workouts. That said, he is the same back either way, but the fan and media speculation will settle after he runs.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-08-2004, 05:04 PM
Abdul Hodge ILB - second round maybe?

astrofan
12-08-2004, 05:13 PM
I have mentioned Roth before as an 3rd round alternative to a first round OLB, but I didn't get to see many of his games. Where do you think he would fit best for the Texans? He seems like a natural LB pressed into playing with his hand on the ground due his tremendous size - bigger than #93. Does anyone know how fast Babin or Wong run a 40, for a little reference?

OT: who cares about 40 times for guys that weigh 250+? I am much more interested in 5yd 10yd and 20yd burst for a big fella.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-08-2004, 05:15 PM
don't know about Wong but Babin ran a 4.6

wags
12-08-2004, 05:22 PM
1st Thomas Davis- can play FS or SS; upgrade over Earl
2nd Barret Rudd-ILB
3rd Anthony Bryant-NT
3rd Reggie Brown-WR

Davis is a sure tacker and hits hard. I don't know anything about Rudd except that he is ranked as one of the best ILB's coming out. Bryant weighs 336 and Alabama had one of the best defenses in the country this year. Reggie Brown has good hands, not really a deep threat though.

Chances of the Texans drafting any of these guys: probably zero :thud:

astrofan
12-08-2004, 05:24 PM
hetero
can we get him with a second?
will he draw too much attention at the combine?
I did not mean to slight him in anyway, he seems perfect for our team. I just don't want anyone else to want him (specifically the Devil's two favorite teams: Steelers and Patriots)

TheOgre
12-08-2004, 05:25 PM
umm, matt roth is #10 overall on mel kiper's big board. he is a top-half first-round talent- one of the finest to ever play his position and an absolute joy to watch. if the texans end up trading down and then get him, then i predict he'd be the most popular player on the defense almost day 1. he's a very, very special player.

Trade up or down? We are probably going to be drafting around 15th. We would have to move up if Roth is #10 overall.

BTW, down with the Cowboys. We need them to lose to increase the value of that 3rd round pick.

astrofan
12-08-2004, 05:31 PM
one of the finest to ever play his position and an absolute joy to watch... he's a very, very special player.

Are you saying DE or OLB?
I am worried some folks - not me - will say too small for end, too big for OLB?
I am not being contentious, if that is how it sounds.

astrofan
12-08-2004, 05:45 PM
I almost asked if he had any background in wresting in my last post. So I look over on Hawkeyesports and what to my wondering eyes did appear:

High school honors - - Named to numerous prep all-America teams as a linebacker and fullback . . . named Illinois High School Athlete of the Year by the Chicago Tribune . . . lettered four years in football at Willowbrook . . . named to the ESPN and Reebok first all-America teams as a senior . . . all-conference as a junior . . . as a senior he was also named first team all-state and conference Defensive Player of the Year . . . football captain and MVP as a senior . . . Career - - junior and senior stats include 271 tackles, 52 tackles for loss and 15 quarterback sacks . . . team had a 15-7 record his final two years . . . defensive stats as a senior show 161 tackles, 23 tackles for loss, four quarterback sacks, an incredible 12 blocked kicks and 10 forced fumbles . . . rushed for 307 yards and four touchdowns as a senior . . . lettered four times in wrestling, earning state title as a senior with perfect 31-0 record.


We should probably radio in our decision so the Big Guys are on the same page come Draft Day

I'll take him over Ahmad Brooks anyday

Cheroqui
12-08-2004, 05:56 PM
What about this cat from Oklahoma, someone may have mentioned him but is he out next year? and what about a TE?

wags
12-08-2004, 06:01 PM
What abou this cat from Oklahoma, someone may have mentioned him but is he out next year? and what about a TE?

If your talking about Dan Cody (DE), he is a senior and will be in the draft. I just don't see us drafting another first round DE/OLB. As far as TE's go I only know that Heath Miller(UVA) is the best and he is a junior.

Grid
12-08-2004, 07:15 PM
I want Derrick Brooks with our #1. But if he wasnt available and Ronnie Brown was.. I would jump on Brown. But I doubt either of them will be available unless we trade up. WHICH may be possible if we trade up to like 7 or 8 or something.

at #2 and #3.. I dunno.. its still too early.. im just thinking about our #1.

Grid
12-08-2004, 07:18 PM
About getting a DE to play OLB for us.. havent we had enough of that? im getting tired of players having to learn a new position with us.. id like to get a player on defense that actually knows how to play his position for once.

We dont need huge LBs.. you can use them in a 3/4 but regular size ones work too.

texansfan88
12-08-2004, 07:26 PM
haha, ok Texasfan88. Can you back up any of this talk? Or is that all you have?
I did back it up...didn't you read where it said "they've said they're STAYING"

astrofan
12-08-2004, 08:04 PM
Cody and Roth are big LBs playing out of position

Blake
12-08-2004, 08:11 PM
I did back it up...didn't you read where it said "they've said they're STAYING"

Its called a reference. Where did you read it/hear it? Dont just tell me that they are staying in school and expect me to believe you.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-08-2004, 08:19 PM
DC ROCK, don't you know that texanfan88 is the self annointed draft guru of the boards? lol

texansfan88
12-08-2004, 08:41 PM
I work for Insidetheleague.com based here in Htown. That's where I get most of the info I give, but also get it from friends in the business. If you are wanting to pay 50/year, I'll be glad to give you all the info you need

texansfan88
12-08-2004, 08:41 PM
DC ROCK, don't you know that texanfan88 is the self annointed draft guru of the boards? lol

In a previous post by me:

As guru of the board (hahahha)

SEE!

Cheroqui
12-08-2004, 11:47 PM
If your talking about Dan Cody (DE), he is a senior and will be in the draft. I just don't see us drafting another first round DE/OLB. As far as TE's go I only know that Heath Miller(UVA) is the best and he is a junior.

No I meant this guy from Oklahoma (not unless it's Alabama), no I'm 99% sure it's Oklahoma #28 Peterson is it? or Perkins one of those guys. As a matter of fact they both have #28 beleive it or not. One is a cornerback and one is a hlafback. I meant the halfback, and that's if he's leaving.

TexasJedi
12-09-2004, 10:33 AM
If you mean Adrian Peterson, then he is merely a Freshman (a true freshman i think). He won't be eligible for another 2 years.

Reddevil63
12-09-2004, 11:51 AM
If you mean Adrian Peterson, then he is merely a Freshman (a true freshman i think). He won't be eligible for another 2 years.Yep true freshman, ha ha people are really reaching arent they. We should pull an NBA and start looking at High school seniors, only 4 more years until they are eligible!!

astrofan
12-09-2004, 01:02 PM
well then, maybe with the two third rounders we should get WR Danny Amendola (true freshman in Lubbock) from the Woodands and QB>WR Todd Walker (fastest D1 player-caliber in Texas) from Pflugerville

NoBullTexan
12-09-2004, 07:51 PM
Casserly said last year that the next two years Drafts would be devoted to the defense. He pretty much stuck to that in the 2004 Draft, so I would say we go out and 1),get a FA RB, 2), let DD try to go another year, or 3), take a flyer on a rookie in the 4th, 5th, or 6th round. I would think the latter would be the most likely.

Blake
12-09-2004, 08:09 PM
Casserly said last year that the next two years Drafts would be devoted to the defense.

I guess we could be looking at a:

1. Thomas Davis / Marcus Spears
2. Justin Tuck / Brodney Pool

beerlover
12-10-2004, 12:34 PM
I'm curious to know what you all think may be the first 3 picks selected come draft day and in what positions? Also I saw the Edgerrin James post too and would like to know if you think we'll fill a RB spot through NFL or a rookie out of college?


a little clarification please.........do you mean the first three picks of the Texans or the first three picks in the draft :confused:

NFL overall
1. QB- Aaron Rogers
2. RB- Cedric Benson
3. QB- Matt Leinart

Texans
1. DT- Marcus Spears, LSU Tigers
2. C - Ben Wilkerson, LSU Tigers
3. ILB- Marcus Lawrence (Dunta's teammate from South Carolina)
3. TE- Kevin Everett, Miami Hurricanes

Vinny
12-10-2004, 01:55 PM
If Cedric Benson is the number 2 overall I'll eat my hat (although I don't wear one).

Cheroqui
12-10-2004, 02:18 PM
a little clarification please...

Yeah, when I asked the question, I meant what do you think the first 3 the Texans will pick, and at what positions.

infantrycak
12-10-2004, 02:24 PM
If Cedric Benson is the number 2 overall I'll eat my hat (although I don't wear one).

Have to second that thought. You have to go back 10 years to find a back taken that high (and look how that turned out). The trend the last few years is to take them lower and lower--2004 26th, 2003 23rd, 2002 16th, 2001 5th (LaDainian Tomlinson), 2000 5th (Jamal Lewis), 1999 4th (Edgerrin James) 5th (Ricky Williams).

infantrycak
12-10-2004, 02:27 PM
Yeah, when I asked the question, I meant what do you think the first 3 the Texans will pick, and at what positions.

In no particular round order because IMO Casserly doesn't draft that way, i.e. forcing needs:

C, ILB, CB, DT

edo783
12-10-2004, 03:46 PM
Benson MIGHT be the second RB taken in the draft (I think R. Brown will be) but certainly not the second player taken in the draft. IMO, the team that does take him will wind up with a bust. He a good power runing back at the college level, but he will be exposed as to slow at the pro level.

astrofan
12-10-2004, 09:58 PM
man, I would love to have Ronnie Brown
outside of an imperfect health record, what are knocks on this guy?

NorthernTexanFan101
12-11-2004, 03:22 PM
We Need Kyle Orton And A New Olb Would Be Nice Too

wags
12-12-2004, 06:43 PM
At the rate we are losing games we are going to draft pretty high. I would trade down for an extra 2nd round pick.

1st trade down for Thomas Davis (SS)
2nd David Baas (C/G)
2nd Barrett Rudd (ILB)
3rd Reggie Brown (WR)
3rd Anthony Bryant (NT)

3 or 4 potential starters from this group.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-13-2004, 01:19 AM
1. Ahmad Brooks ILB
2. Gabe Watson NT
3. Kevin Everett TE
3. Jimmy Williams CB

1. Thomas Davis S
2. Abdul Hodge ILB
3. Kevin Everett TE
3. Anthony Bryant NT

astrofan
12-13-2004, 02:02 AM
At the rate we are losing games we are going to draft pretty high. I would trade down for an extra 2nd round pick.

1st trade down for Thomas Davis (SS)
2nd David Baas (C/G)
2nd Barrett Rudd (ILB)
3rd Reggie Brown (WR)
3rd Anthony Bryant (NT)

3 or 4 potential starters from this group.

is Bryant the best we could do with a first day pick?
he had 2 (two) tackles for loss his entire career
Ngata had 8.5 (more than four times as many) this year alone
after a serious injury

the rest I like

wags
12-13-2004, 12:30 PM
is Bryant the best we could do with a first day pick?
he had 2 (two) tackles for loss his entire career


He did a little better than that. I just like him because of his size. Maybe we could do better. idonno:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/dt/anthonybryant.html

astrofan
12-13-2004, 02:29 PM
one mock draft i saw by an adult (someone over 25 years of age) had ngata going to SF #1 overall.

where did the adults think Dockett(64), Starks(71), Lavalais(142), Sopoaga(104) and Clauss(230) were going to go

I'll stick with my childish ideas
maybe once you get past 43 you believe everything you hear

edit: hetero, you are twenty years and one day older than me exactly

astrofan
12-13-2004, 02:34 PM
He did a little better than that.

please explain what better than 2 tackles for loss in his career would be
I'm not knocking the guy, he just doesn't seem capable of being a two-gap NT for four quarters every week

wags
12-13-2004, 03:17 PM
please explain what better than 2 tackles for loss in his career would be
I'm not knocking the guy, he just doesn't seem capable of being a two-gap NT for four quarters every week


2004: 19 tackles, 3 Tackles for loss(-8 yards), 1.5 sacks, 2 QB hurries
2003: 44 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 2 PD, 12 QB hurries
2002: 32 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF, 4 QB hurries

not great stats, but he has size and will be available later in the draft.

astrofan
12-13-2004, 04:41 PM
man, I don't know what I was looking at on rolltide
still 1.5 sacks and 6.5 tfl seem low for a guy that we want dominate two lineman every play

someone like Castillo from N'western could be more our style

OT: is it just me or do the folks a nfldraftcountdown have an abundance of negative thing to say about players from the southeast
Ronald Fields Not a great athlete...Brings little to the table in terms of a pass rush...Poorly conditioned and wears down...Questionable motor.
Anthony Bryant Won't provide much in the way of a pass rushing threat...Not a great athlete...Not fast or very quick...Out of shape and wears down late in games.
Reggie Brown Inconsistent...Has lapses in concentration and doesn't always give 100%...Speed is only average...Hands are questionable...Isn't a deep threat.
on and on..

astrofan
12-13-2004, 09:26 PM
football.com as of 12/12 has Ngata rated 60th overall
Hawthorne(3)
Wright(5)
Patterson(41)
Alexander(52)
Ngata(60)

does that make them childish (someone under 25 years of age)
please post a link that has Ngata going 1st overall

edit: source on Luis above nusports.collegesports.com

Herdof
12-13-2004, 10:12 PM
1. S Thomas Davis - Georgia - I feel that he can be better than Sean Jones. Nasty hitter.

"S: A safety in a linebackers body...Very strong, tough and physical...Excellent athlete...Great size...Has great range...A force in run support...Great instincts...Good tackler...Has a lot of upside.

W: Raw and still developing...Has only average speed but it is good for his size...Doesn't have a lot of experience at safety because he has moved back and forth between there and linebacker...Not a ballhawk.

O: Has Roy Williams-like potential...Still a work in progress but has a lot of potential...Should be one of the top safety prospects in the draft should he come out." - NFL Draft Countdown

2a. ILB Barret Rudd - Nebraska - If he runs the hell out of his 40, he will skyrocket and there's no point in letting a great football talent (not athlete) pass us by.

"S: Has a motor that never quits...Good size...Should run well in workouts...Great instincts...Fiery and a team leader...Has a ton of experience and has been very productive...Smart and can be another coach on the field.

W: Not an incredible pure athlete, even though he has good timed speed...Doesn't change direction well...Poor agility...Needs to get stronger.

O: Father Tom was a 1st Round Pick by the Buffalo Bills in 1975...Top linebacker prospect with just about everything you look for...Should be able to make an impact very early on in his pro career." - NFL Draft Countdown

2b. DE/OLB Justin Tuck - Notre Dame - Knowing how the Texans LOVE drafting 'tweenies (God knows how many we have - Babin, Peek, Orr, etc.), I take it that he'll love to groom this guy. I like him as well, but how would be

"S: Excellent athletic ability...Tall and lanky...Explosive speed and quickness...Top production and a sack artist...Has a lot of experience against top competition...Is unblockable at times.

W: Undersized...Needs to continue to get bigger and stronger...Improving but still not a force against the run...A 'tweener who could project to OLB in the pros, especially in a 3-4 scheme.

O: Notre Dame's all-time leader in sacks...Has made major strides as an all-around player the last couple of years...Cousin of Adalius Thomas of the Baltimore Ravens...Has the option to return to school for another season. " - NFL Draft Countdown

As of now, these are who I would like with our first three picks.

Blake
12-14-2004, 11:26 AM
Updated every week. Shows the current draft order, if the season ended today.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/update

* Texans are #14 right now.

Blake
12-14-2004, 12:54 PM
Set Players:
L-DE Gary Walker - Huge player.
L-CB Aaron Glenn - Has a couple of years left. We might draft a replacement.
R-CB Dunta Robinson - wow.
L-OLB Jason Babin - Has some work to do.
R-ILB Jaime Sharper - Pro Bowler
FS Marcus Coleman - He is, and will be the starting FS.
SS Glen Earl - I like his play so far. I think Thomas Davis will not be needed.

Not Set:
R-DE
NT
R-ILB
R-OLB

For the positions not set, should be either drafted, or FA market.

NT - Seth Payne. Good player that needs to be upgraded and rotated. Rodrique Wright would be an excellent choice.

R-DE - Robaire Smith. Maybe move Robaire inside and rotate with Payne. This forces us to get Marcus Spears from LSU.

R-ILB - Jay Foreman. Upgrade needed here. 2 options here. Option 1, is to simply drop down in the draft and draft a ILB, like Channing Crowder, or Odell Thurman, while picking up an extra 2nd or so. Or move up in the draft and select Derrick Johnson, and put him at R-OLB, and move Kailee back to R-ILB.

R-OLB - Kailee Wong. If the Texans go anything other than DJ, or Ahmad Brooks, then Kailee will stay here.

** Top choices. Sticking with Defense.

1. Derrick Johnson.
2. Antrel Rolle.
3. Marcus Spears.
4. Rodrique Wright.
5. Ahmad Brooks.
6. Thomas Davis.
7. Channing Crowder.
8. Mathias Kiwanuka.
9. Erasmus James.
10. Travis Johnson.

Vinny
12-14-2004, 12:59 PM
Sharper is no Pro Bowler. His play the last half of this season has been average at best.

Blake
12-14-2004, 01:02 PM
Sharper is no Pro Bowler. His play the last half of this season has been average at best.

ok. Out of my whole post, you decided to comment on my opinion of Sharper being in the pro bowl...

Vinny
12-14-2004, 01:07 PM
I just keep seeing him mentioned as a Pro Bowler around here. I'm just adding a voice that doesn't agree with it. Nothing personal.

I don't have much of an opinion on this draft though...so I don't really have a comment on who we will go after and who we will be replacing at this time.

wags
12-14-2004, 01:11 PM
Sharper is no Pro Bowler. His play the last half of this season has been average at best.

Totally agree. How many tackles can he miss? The juke that McNair put on Sharper is forever burned into my memory. We have one sure tackler on defense and it's a rookie(Drob). It's time we get another one.

infantrycak
12-14-2004, 01:28 PM
Sharper is no Pro Bowler. His play the last half of this season has been average at best.

Last year his play merited consideration for the pro bowl--this year he has not been bringing his A game.

Vinny
12-14-2004, 01:29 PM
I've been very dissapointed with Sharper this year. I don't view him as a leader anymore. He is looking for someone to lead him.

TexansCanes
12-15-2004, 03:02 AM
what do you guys think of mike boley. i have watched him for a couple of years and thought that this guy was one of the best lbs in the nation. i know he is on the small side, but i think he could be a difference maker. remember people thought vilma was too small to mlb and he is battling dunta for rookie of the year, mike is the same weight and si three inches taller. if he is too small maybe we can move him to safty and make him a clone of sean taylor, looked very similar when he was running to the end zone. i don't know his speed so he may not be fast enough. i'm not sure where he is going to get drafted, probably in the 2nd, and i think that maybe we could try and trade up for him if he is their late in the 2nd, he actually might slip to the 3rd pendening on who comes out. all i know is that he is a defensive playmaker and we have few to speak of.

beerlover
12-15-2004, 04:45 AM
what do you guys think of mike boley. i have watched him for a couple of years and thought that this guy was one of the best lbs in the nation. i know he is on the small side, but i think he could be a difference maker. remember people thought vilma was too small to mlb and he is battling dunta for rookie of the year, mike is the same weight and si three inches taller. if he is too small maybe we can move him to safty and make him a clone of sean taylor, looked very similar when he was running to the end zone. i don't know his speed so he may not be fast enough. i'm not sure where he is going to get drafted, probably in the 2nd, and i think that maybe we could try and trade up for him if he is their late in the 2nd, he actually might slip to the 3rd pendening on who comes out. all i know is that he is a defensive playmaker and we have few to speak of.


he's not really well known, would be stretch for him to play linebacker in the NFL because of his size. reminds me a lot of Michael Boulware came out of Florida State as a OLB and as early as combines was tested with the DB's. wound up being drafted by the Seahawks in the second round & immediatly moved to free safety. I've heard good things that he has made the switch a lot better than most who changed positions in the NFL and now is a starter.

the Texans already have some good young talent here so I don't think they'll feel a need for another FS/special teams guy. we need large bodies on both sides of the line. as far as sleeper LB here is one which I've been watching since Dunta Robinson was from South Carolina his former teammate looks really raw but has great instincts, sort of a poor mans Derrick Johnson his name is Marcus Lawrence a 6-3, 236 pound linebacker. his 40 time is listed at 4.8 he is a strong run stopper and an aggressive player who enjoys making big plays and making the big hit. he is also able to effectively drop back into coverage something seriously lacking on the Texans this year.

infantrycak
12-15-2004, 08:40 AM
reminds me a lot of Michael Boulware came out of Florida State as a OLB and as early as combines was tested with the DB's. wound up being drafted by the Seahawks in the second round & immediatly moved to free safety. I've heard good things that he has made the switch a lot better than most who changed positions in the NFL and now is a starter.

Boulware took over starting duties last weekend, but has played in every game this year--so far: 41 tackels, 1 sack, 5 INT's, 1 TD and 1 pass defensed. Great move by the Seahawks.

TheOgre
12-15-2004, 09:31 AM
yes, but i play in a fantasy league with IDP, and in these leagues sharper is now famous for something- the highest scoring play (of any kind, actually) in fantasy football history.

sack, forced fumble, recovered fumble, touchdown

Sounds like they messed up when they created Sharper. Remember someone coded each player. The only defensive player I can think of that should be able to get a TD almost every time he gets a turnover is Ed Reed of Baltimore.

TheOgre
12-15-2004, 12:12 PM
I know the difference; I just misread it. I am in two FF leagues myself. I made it into the playoffs in one. Injuries killed my other team.

That Ravens defense has been superb for me.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-15-2004, 12:39 PM
Ed Reed did the same thing against the Redskins this season during a Sunday Night game. Sack, forced fumble, fumble recovery, touchdown.

TheOgre
12-15-2004, 03:20 PM
Ed Reed did the same thing against the Redskins this season during a Sunday Night game. Sack, forced fumble, fumble recovery, touchdown.

I know. I drafted the Raven's defense in the 5th round of our draft. Everyone thought I was nuts but it is one of the chief reasons I am in the playoffs.