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LLV
04-04-2008, 01:07 AM
New England trades #7 overall to Chicago for #14 overall and #45 overall

Seattle trades #25 overall to Washington for #21 overall, #155 overall and a 4th rounder in 2009.

San Diego trades #27 overall to Detroit for #46 overall and #76 overall.

St. Louis trades #34 overall and #217 overall to Minnesota for #48 overall and #82 overall.

1st Round

1 Miami Dolphins select Jake Long, OT, Michigan
2 St. Louis Rams select Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio St.
3 Atlanta Falcons select Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
4 Oakland Raiders select Chris Long, DE, Virginia
5 Kansas City Chiefs select Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
6 New York Jets select Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
7 Chicago Bears (From NE via SF) select Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
8 Baltimore Ravens select Matthew Ryan, QB, Boston College
9 Cincinnati Bengals select Keith Rivers, OLB, USC
10 New Orleans Saints select Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tenn. State
11 Buffalo Bills select Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
12 Denver Broncos select Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
13 Carolina Panthers select Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
14 New England Patriots (From CHI) select Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
15 Detroit Lions select Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
16 Arizona Cardinals select Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
17 Minnesota Vikings select Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
18 Houston Texans select Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
19 Philadelphia Eagles select Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers select DeSean Jackson, WR, California
21 Seattle Seahawks (From WAS) select Branden Albert, OG, Virginia
22 Dallas Cowboys (From CLE) select Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)
23 Pittsburgh Steelers select Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
24 Tennessee Titans select Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn
25 Washington Redskins (From SEA) select Trevor Laws, DE/DT, Notre Dame
26 Jacksonville Jaguars select Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
27 Detroit Lions (From SD) select Jeff Otah, OT/OG, Pittsburgh
28 Dallas Cowboys select Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
29 San Francisco 49'ers (From IND) select Cliff Avril, DE/OLB, Purdue
30 Green Bay Packers select Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue
31 New England Patriots Forfeited Pick
32 New York Giants select Xavier Adibi, OLB, Virginia Tech

2nd Round

33 Miami Dolphins select Curtis Lofton, ILB, Oklahoma
34 Minnesota Vikings (From STL) select Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
35 Atlanta Falcons (From OAK) select Chad Henne, QB, Michigan
36 Kansas City Chiefs select Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska
37 New York Jets select Dan Connor, ILB, Penn State
38 Atlanta Falcons select James Hardy, WR, Indiana
39 Baltimore Ravens select Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
40 San Francisco 49'ers select Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
41 New Orleans Saints select Jerod Mayo, ILB, Tennessee
42 Buffalo Bills select Mike Pollack, C, Arizona State
43 Denver Broncos select Tavares Gooden, OLB, Miami (FL)
44 Carolina Panthers select Reggie Smith, FS, Oklahoma
45 New England Patriots (From CHI) select Jonathan Goff, ILB, Vanderbilt
46 San Diego Chargers (From DET) select Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
47 Cincinnati Bengals select Fred Davis, TE, USC
48 St. Louis Rams (From MIN) select Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
49 Atlanta Falcons (From HOU) select Sam Baker, OT, USC
50 Philadelphia Eagles select Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
51 Arizona Cardinals select Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
52 Washington Redskins select Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC
53 Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
54 Pittsburgh Steelers select Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
55 Tennessee Titans select Donnie Avery, WR, Houston
56 Seattle Seahawks select Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M
57 Green Bay Packers (From CLE) select Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware
58 Miami Dolphins (From SD) select John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame
59 Jacksonville Jaguars select Calais Campbell, DE, Miami (FL)
60 Indianapolis Colts select Tony Hills, OT, Texas
61 Green Bay Packers select Justin King, CB, Penn State
62 Dallas Cowboys select Kevin Smith, RB, UCF
63 New England Patriots select Shawn Crable, DE/OLB, Michigan
64 New York Giants select Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa

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Texaninlild
04-04-2008, 01:12 AM
I hear people down on Chris Williams, but I don't know why. Has anyone heard anything negative on him?

stingray
04-04-2008, 01:24 AM
I hear people down on Chris Williams, but I don't know why. Has anyone heard anything negative on him?

They interviewed on Sirius NFL Radio and the hosts, Pat Kirwin and I can't remember the other guy started saying that he might be a little too laid back and might lack a mean streak. I don't know if that might be a reason, but I also think other players like Brandon Albert are moving up. So when players move up, some have to move down.

Ole Miss Texan
04-04-2008, 01:35 AM
I got an email (courtesy a close friend of mine :)) today talking about Ryan Clady's stock could be dropping.
"Several team executives who have met with Clady have been turned off by what they described as “a lack of passion” and immaturity. The Chiefs, who typically send a contingent of executives to the pro days of the prospects they like, simply sent an area scout to evaluate Clady."

Couple that with his supposedly very low Wonderlic Score for a Left Tackle might not bode too will for the Cladster. Question is if (and that's still a big IF) Clady were to drop to #18 because of this apparent 'lack of passion' and low wonderlic, how would the Texans (mainly Kubiak and Gibbs) feel about him??

I could still definitely see us taking the smart kids from Vandy or Virginia, although i doubt the last. Time for me to start getting more excited about the Defensive prospects. darn.

beerlover
04-04-2008, 01:39 AM
wow pretty slick, I like the idea of your trades but why would the Patriots trade down & pass on McKelvin? (your not a Pats fan?)

also like the idea of Seattle trading down to get Albert, very realistic!

actually I'm under the distinct impression your a Lion fan :lion: that is one hell of a 1st rd. (Harvey & Otah) both when all is said & done top 10 talent :)

regardless, welcome & thanks for your input......:spit:

beerlover
04-04-2008, 01:42 AM
I got an email (courtesy a close friend of mine :)) today talking about Ryan Clady's stock could be dropping.


Couple that with his supposedly very low Wonderlic Score for a Left Tackle might not bode too will for the Cladster. Question is if (and that's still a big IF) Clady were to drop to #18 because of this apparent 'lack of passion' and low wonderlic, how would the Texans (mainly Kubiak and Gibbs) feel about him??

I could still definitely see us taking the smart kids from Vandy or Virginia, although i doubt the last. Time for me to start getting more excited about the Defensive prospects. darn.

nothing & I mean nothing would please me more if Ryan somehow became a Texan, he is the left tackle we seem to be always out of position to get :wild:

Texaninlild
04-04-2008, 01:43 AM
I got an email (courtesy a close friend of mine :)) today talking about Ryan Clady's stock could be dropping.


Couple that with his supposedly very low Wonderlic Score for a Left Tackle might not bode too will for the Cladster. Question is if (and that's still a big IF) Clady were to drop to #18 because of this apparent 'lack of passion' and low wonderlic, how would the Texans (mainly Kubiak and Gibbs) feel about him??

I could still definitely see us taking the smart kids from Vandy or Virginia, although i doubt the last. Time for me to start getting more excited about the Defensive prospects. darn.

I heard Clady interviewed. I could not believe this kid went to college. He seems a little clueless and it didn't sound like he was finding any clues anytime soon. I wasn't impressed at all. I thought linemen were supposed to be the brightest??

He has skill or he wouldn't be mentioned at the top of boards, but brains and attitude get you a long way...look at our middle linebacker.

beerlover
04-04-2008, 02:03 AM
I heard Clady interviewed. I could not believe this kid went to college. He seems a little clueless and it didn't sound like he was finding any clues anytime soon. I wasn't impressed at all. I thought linemen were supposed to be the brightest??

He has skill or he wouldn't be mentioned at the top of boards, but brains and attitude get you a long way...look at our middle linebacker.

does not interview well, granted. He lets his play do the talking. all this hype & bs about Long. Ryan Clady would beat hm 9 out of 10 times, he has a much higher ceiling despite worrys his floor is low like his Wonderlick, heck he matched scores with Marino & Vince Young & their QB's so what?

Texaninlild
04-04-2008, 02:22 AM
does not interview well, granted. He lets his play do the talking. all this hype & bs about Long. Ryan Clady would beat hm 9 out of 10 times, he has a much higher ceiling despite worrys his floor is low like his Wonderlick, heck he matched scores with Marino & Vince Young & their QB's so what?

Yeah he matched scores with my blue heeler too.

Maddict5
04-04-2008, 06:20 AM
I hear people down on Chris Williams, but I don't know why. Has anyone heard anything negative on him?

1. short arms
2. as mentioned previously- very laid back about the game

BigBull17
04-04-2008, 09:19 AM
Jake Long will be a RT in 2-3 years. Clady will be a better OT when all is said and done. Just my:twocents:

threetoedpete
04-04-2008, 10:00 AM
I hear people down on Chris Williams, but I don't know why. Has anyone heard anything negative on him?

he's not very strong....like Jake Long...Jake long is a mule. Hook him up and plow all day long. Which ever team selects Long...be alot of play action passes.

Williams is a ZBS guy the gamble is that he is quick enough to get the angles on people. Where as Joe Thomas from last year is a very nice combination of the two. Don't be surprised with this board if they take albert.

vn mock. I beileve the phins take the OT 1, they'll come back and take the pick of the litter @ Qb 2. Nice value pick for the polks @ 62.

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=1338
He was voted second-team All-Southeastern Conference by coaches in 2006, when he allowed just one sack -- none the last 11 games. He followed that performance with an equally strong 2007 campaign, when he again only allowed one sack and was an AP and coaches first-team all-conference selection.

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=778062

Just like the first day of the Senior Bowl, this guy stood out on Day 1 in Indianapolis. He is a massive tackle who checked in at 6'6" and 315 lbs. He ran very good 5.07 and 5.18 times and looked nimble in the agility drills, though he did only 21 reps.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/notesbypos.php?genpos=OT

Vs SEC competition ? ...that synopsis doesn't sound like an alligator armed guy to me.

beerlover
04-04-2008, 10:25 AM
Williams is a ZBS guy the gamble is that he is quick enough to get the angles on people. Where as Joe Thomas from last year is a very nice combination of the two. Don't be surprised with this board if they take albert.

thats an interesting combination or way to put it :thinking:

my major concern with Thomas last year, more so than Adrian Peterson even, was if he could withstand the physical punishment & maintain a solid base coming off acl surgery. I could not look past the knee brace he wore, but then I didn't have access to the doctors prognosis either so they must have signed off on him, then he went out there proving he was 100% healthy.

Williams is alot more athletic than Joe, but does not have the measureables like strength or wingspan. technique is sound & like you said a perfect fit for the ZBS. I beleive he warrents a higher draft slot than #18 sorry to say so I just don't expect him to be available past Denver/Carolina.

threetoedpete
04-04-2008, 10:49 AM
39 Baltimore Ravens select Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas

& This is about where he should go with those feet YTF. Which means if the Texans pick him they should of traded back and collected some ammo.