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Beastlyman2003
12-06-2004, 11:02 AM
I was just submitting my pro bowl ballot on NFL.com, and i got to the cornerback category. i just want yall to look at each stat and tell me that D-Rob should not be in the probowl.

Choose up to 3
AFC Cornerback Choose up to 3
NFC Cornerback

Player Team INT TAK PassesDefensed
AFC
D. Abraham NYJ 1 40 8
C. Bailey DEN 3 66 8
D. Barrett NYJ 2 60 10
G. Baxter BAL 0 65 10
P. Buchanon OAK 3 53 7
N. Clements BUF 3 61 9
J. David IND 3 33 7
S. Davis SD 1 37 10
A. Dyson TEN 5 33 12
A. Glenn HOU 4 51 8
N. Harper IND 3 63 7
A. Henry CLE 4 57 11
K. Herndon DEN 1 56 15
T. James CIN 7 47 10
Q. Jammer SD 0 38 7
T. Law NE 1 28 3
S. Madison MIA 0 33 5
R. Mathis JAC 2 46 13
C. McAlister BAL 1 35 7
D. McCleon KC 0 26 4
D. McCutcheon CLE 2 50 9
D. O'Neal CIN 3 35 12
T. Poole NE 1 12 3
D. Robinson HOU 5 65 17
S. Rolle TEN 1 28 7
C. Scott PIT 1 24 6
P. Surtain MIA 3 45 9
D. Townsend PIT 4 48 11
T. Vincent BUF 0 12 1
E. Warfield KC 4 42 9
D. Washington JAC 1 62 7
C. Woodson OAK 1 71 9
NFC[/B]
W. Allen NYG 1 59 14
A. Ambrose NO 3 25 9
J. Azumah CHI 4 30 6
R. Barber TB 2 67 9
D. Bly DET 4 28 11
S. Brown PHI 1 72 13
F. Bryant DET 0 51 9
J. Butler STL 4 61 14
A. Carroll GB 1 40 6
T. Fisher STL 1 16 2
L. Frazier DAL 1 15 4
C. Gamble CAR 3 57 9
A. Harris GB 1 51 16
B. Kelly TB 4 43 15
K. Lucas SEA 5 49 13
D. Macklin ARI 3 59 12
R. Manning CAR 2 46 4
K. Mathis ATL 2 56 7
T. Newman DAL 2 49 9
W. Peterson NYG 2 45 8
A. Plummer SF 0 22 7
L. Sheppard PHI 4 45 12
F. Smoot WAS 3 52 11
S. Spencer SF 0 45 4
S. Springs WAS 3 49 8
D. Starks ARI 2 38 8
F. Thomas NO 0 42 3
C. Tillman CHI 0 23 0
M. Trufant SEA 3 64 11
J. Webster ATL 1 39 10
B. Williams MIN 0 51 5
A. Winfield MIN 3 81 8

Now make a case that there is a corner in the the NFL that has earned his place in the probowl more than Dunta Robinson.

HJam72
12-06-2004, 11:05 AM
T. James from Cincinatti with 7 interceptions. That's the only possibility I see for beating out Robinson.

Beastlyman2003
12-06-2004, 11:11 AM
Yes but there are 3 cbs going. so shouldnt Dunta still get a spot?

HJam72
12-06-2004, 11:15 AM
IMO, he should definitely be there.

georgewashington
12-06-2004, 11:22 AM
just because he should go, does not mean that he will. This happens every year, and it will be especially hard for a rookie to make it in. People vote very biased for the probow, including for their home teams, for veterans with marque names, and for people that are showman. Dunta is having a great season, but i doubt he will be in hawaii

Wolf
12-06-2004, 11:32 AM
GW is right.. Dante IS deserving and I hope he does go,but outside of Houston .. We don't get much press coverage so it will be tough.
But it would be great if he could go!

texasguy346
12-06-2004, 11:52 AM
If I'm not mistaken the Pro Bowl voting is a mix of fans, coaches, and players voting. I'm not sure of what percentage each gets, but D. Rob could get into the Pro Bowl this year if he's impressed opposing coaches and players enough. I agree that he won't get many votes outside of Houston, but I'm sure all the coaches that decided to challenge Dunta instead of Glenn have a lasting memory of him picking off their QB. It is very tough for a rookie to make it to the Pro Bowl, but Bolden made it last year for the lowly Cardinals. We could potentially have three players make the Pro Bowl from the Texans: Sharper, AJ, and Robinson. Sharper and DRob have the toughest road to get in to the Pro Bowl though. You can pencil in Ray Lewis as the starting MLB already. Hopefully they all make it to Hawaii.

georgewashington
12-06-2004, 11:56 AM
If I'm not mistaken the Pro Bowl voting is a mix of fans, coaches, and players voting. I'm not sure of what percentage each gets, but D. Rob could get into the Pro Bowl this year if he's impressed opposing coaches and players enough. I agree that he won't get many votes outside of Houston, but I'm sure all the coaches that decided to challenge Dunta instead of Glenn have a lasting memory of him picking off their QB. It is very tough for a rookie to make it to the Pro Bowl, but Bolden made it last year for the lowly Cardinals. We could potentially have three players make the Pro Bowl from the Texans: Sharper, AJ, and Robinson. Sharper and DRob have the toughest road to get in to the Pro Bowl though. You can pencil in Ray Lewis as the starting MLB already. Hopefully they all make it to Hawaii.

I believe each has an equal 1/3 of the vote. Bolden made it because he had ridiculous numbers and some amazing catches that were all over ESPN. Dunta wont have that advantage, his interceptions have not been the most spectacular plays so people wont notice as much. He may get some of the coaches and players noticing, but it is a tough road for him to Hawaii. I would say that in a year or two, he will be feared and recognized by all. I think aside from his INTs, what i think people will see is that he goes for hits like a safety. He can lay the wood.

Lucky
12-06-2004, 12:14 PM
Dunta wont have that advantage, his interceptions have not been the most spectacular plays so people wont notice as much. He may get some of the coaches and players noticing, but it is a tough road for him to Hawaii. I would say that in a year or two, he will be feared and recognized by all.
I agree. When the Texans start winning, Dunta will be in the Pro Bowl. Until then, Bailey, Law, & McAlister are your AFC Pro Bowl corners.

Youngstown Colt
12-06-2004, 12:34 PM
champ, c. woodson, tory james, mccalister. they might not lead in those stats, but thats because they shut WRs down completely

TexansTrueFan
12-06-2004, 12:37 PM
You must not have seen enough of D-Rob to know what US texans fans are talking about ! Yeah and i have seen Champ get completely blown out in games !

Youngstown Colt
12-06-2004, 12:43 PM
im pretty sure indys recievers had their way with dunta as well. they had him pulling out the no respect card for how bad they burned him

infantrycak
12-06-2004, 12:50 PM
champ, c. woodson, tory james, mccalister. they might not lead in those stats, but thats because they shut WRs down completely

Champ has been far from a shut down CB this year, in fact he has gotten lit up several times this year.

El Tejano
12-06-2004, 01:08 PM
Actually, I believe Robinson has ProBowl numbers. However, because he plays in Houston and because he is part of a team that gives up many TD passes and because he is a rookie, he will not make it.

Robinson could be viewed as one of those rookies that even though he exceeded his rookie season, he also must show that he can do it next year also before they give him a ProBowl nod.

Vinny
12-06-2004, 01:12 PM
The Pro Bowl may be out of reach but he has a real shot at defensive rookie of the year. A good game against Peyton could really help him out.

TexansTrueFan
12-06-2004, 01:19 PM
im pretty sure indys recievers had their way with dunta as well. they had him pulling out the no respect card for how bad they burned him


haha actually i dont think you watched the last game when we faced indy, because D-Rob didnt pull out no card, oh your thinking of chad johnnson :loser , LOL ok well he wasnt burned in that game by the way, infact we kept indy from having many BIG plays, but yall had a lot of plays so try to know what your talking about before you say it !

Doug
12-06-2004, 01:28 PM
It's kind of hard to think that D Rob will make it to the pro bowl in his rookie season when the league leader in tackles last year, Jamie Sharper didn't even make it. Not to mention he's putting up big numbers again. Nothing would make me happier than to see D Rob and Jamie make it to Hawaii this year. Yet I don't see it happening due to the team that they play for.

Youngstown Colt
12-06-2004, 01:44 PM
haha actually i dont think you watched the last game when we faced indy, because D-Rob didnt pull out no card, oh your thinking of chad johnnson :loser , LOL ok well he wasnt burned in that game by the way, infact we kept indy from having many BIG plays, but yall had a lot of plays so try to know what your talking about before you say it !
well, he did pull out the "disrespect" card, you cant argue that.

TexansTrueFan
12-06-2004, 01:48 PM
well he may have, but if a guy feels he our his team is beign disrespected than he's gonna say something. D-Rob plays with a lot of intensity and if he dont make the Pro Bowl its not because lack of talent, its cause our record ! He sure can put a hit on people though !

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-06-2004, 02:19 PM
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. Our defense stinks so that can't help Dunta's case. Plus, how often do you see #2 CBs in the pro bowl?

Reddevil63
12-06-2004, 02:28 PM
well, he did pull out the "disrespect" card, you cant argue that.
And you cant argue that this isnt college ball and teams shouldnt still be throwing bombs in a blowout. Things like that have a tendancy to come back and bite them in the ... :heh:

Vinny
12-06-2004, 02:38 PM
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. Our defense stinks so that can't help Dunta's case. Plus, how often do you see #2 CBs in the pro bowl?I'm not so sure he is our #2 CB at times. He out plays Glenn often.

infantrycak
12-06-2004, 02:47 PM
well, he did pull out the "disrespect" card, you cant argue that.

Yes he did, on a completely unrelated subject--that he perceived Manning as trying to run up the score by the hurry up play and going for long throws.

georgewashington
12-06-2004, 03:15 PM
I'm not so sure he is our #2 CB at times. He out plays Glenn often.

Exactly, there really isnt a #1 or #2 CB on this team. Glenn may theoretically get the nod because of his experience and being labeled as the top CB before the season and in the past, but I think People will be just as afraid of Dunta. Aside from being at the top in tackles on the team, he has more INTs than glenn now i believe, and he sure can hit harder than glenn. He is a number 1 CB. Unfortunately being a rookie on the loosing team wont help him get votes, from either the fans or the coaches and players.

El Tejano
12-06-2004, 03:33 PM
He has his whole career to be a Pro Bowl CB.

Nawzer
12-06-2004, 03:36 PM
He's a rookie and that's why he'll get shafted.

TEXANS84
12-06-2004, 04:11 PM
Jamie Sharper led the leauge in tackles last year and he got shafted. Untill we start winning games and get on national tv...then there is little hope. Now Andre is praised nationwide...if he doesn't get it.....

infantrycak
12-06-2004, 04:36 PM
The AFC will send 4 WR's to the pro-bowl. Right now the top 4 on yardage are:

Chad Johnson 1071 yds, 6 TD's
Andre Johnson 1018 yds, 5 TD's
Jimmy Smith 961 yds, 3 TD's
Derrick Mason 912 yds, 5 TD's

Some folks that might be able to drop 1-2 of those guys off the list because of TD's (they are 5-7 in yards)--big shock here all Colts:

Brandon Stokley 882 yds 9 TD's
Reggie Wayne 875 yds 10 TD's
Marvin Harrison 870 yds 12 TD's

Mason, Harrison and C. Johnson made it last year, along with Hines Ward, currently 13th in yardage with 800 yds and 4 TD's.

Dime
12-07-2004, 05:55 PM
well, he did pull out the "disrespect" card, you cant argue that.

Probably wont happen, but lets make a deal. If Robinson intercepts Manning, you have to go and vote for D-Rob for the Pro-bowl. If he doesnt... I will vote Manning for the Pro-Bowl (grin) :idea:

ledzeppelin229
12-08-2004, 01:36 AM
I don't know if Dunta is really our #2 CB anymore.

Dunta_Fan_23
12-08-2004, 05:34 AM
I hope Robinson goes to the pro bowl that would rock!!!!

:coolb:

HJam72
12-19-2004, 04:51 PM
I was just submitting my pro bowl ballot on NFL.com, and i got to the cornerback category. i just want yall to look at each stat and tell me that D-Rob should not be in the probowl.

Choose up to 3
AFC Cornerback Choose up to 3
NFC Cornerback

Player Team INT TAK PassesDefensed
AFC
D. Abraham NYJ 1 40 8
C. Bailey DEN 3 66 8
D. Barrett NYJ 2 60 10
G. Baxter BAL 0 65 10
P. Buchanon OAK 3 53 7
N. Clements BUF 3 61 9
J. David IND 3 33 7
S. Davis SD 1 37 10
A. Dyson TEN 5 33 12
A. Glenn HOU 4 51 8
N. Harper IND 3 63 7
A. Henry CLE 4 57 11
K. Herndon DEN 1 56 15
T. James CIN 7 47 10
Q. Jammer SD 0 38 7
T. Law NE 1 28 3
S. Madison MIA 0 33 5
R. Mathis JAC 2 46 13
C. McAlister BAL 1 35 7
D. McCleon KC 0 26 4
D. McCutcheon CLE 2 50 9
D. O'Neal CIN 3 35 12
T. Poole NE 1 12 3
D. Robinson HOU 5 65 17
S. Rolle TEN 1 28 7
C. Scott PIT 1 24 6
P. Surtain MIA 3 45 9
D. Townsend PIT 4 48 11
T. Vincent BUF 0 12 1
E. Warfield KC 4 42 9
D. Washington JAC 1 62 7
C. Woodson OAK 1 71 9
NFC[/B]
W. Allen NYG 1 59 14
A. Ambrose NO 3 25 9
J. Azumah CHI 4 30 6
R. Barber TB 2 67 9
D. Bly DET 4 28 11
S. Brown PHI 1 72 13
F. Bryant DET 0 51 9
J. Butler STL 4 61 14
A. Carroll GB 1 40 6
T. Fisher STL 1 16 2
L. Frazier DAL 1 15 4
C. Gamble CAR 3 57 9
A. Harris GB 1 51 16
B. Kelly TB 4 43 15
K. Lucas SEA 5 49 13
D. Macklin ARI 3 59 12
R. Manning CAR 2 46 4
K. Mathis ATL 2 56 7
T. Newman DAL 2 49 9
W. Peterson NYG 2 45 8
A. Plummer SF 0 22 7
L. Sheppard PHI 4 45 12
F. Smoot WAS 3 52 11
S. Spencer SF 0 45 4
S. Springs WAS 3 49 8
D. Starks ARI 2 38 8
F. Thomas NO 0 42 3
C. Tillman CHI 0 23 0
M. Trufant SEA 3 64 11
J. Webster ATL 1 39 10
B. Williams MIN 0 51 5
A. Winfield MIN 3 81 8

Now make a case that there is a corner in the the NFL that has earned his place in the probowl more than Dunta Robinson.


You forgot to add SACKS and FORCED FUMBLES!!! Way to go Dunta! :banana:

SESupergenius
12-19-2004, 04:59 PM
I'm not so sure he is our #2 CB at times. He out plays Glenn often.
yea well until DROB goes up against top tiered receivers weekend and weekout, Glenn is still hands down the better player.

aj.
12-19-2004, 06:53 PM
I wish I could find that post that I read this morning about Dunta not being a playmaker. He is one of the best rookie corners I've seen in a while. He keeps getting better with each game. There's really not that much difference in the quality of play between Glenn and Robinson right now, in fact Robinson is making plays that Aaron isn't. There's a lot that goes on in the secondary that you can't see on TV. Aaron had a good game today too and maybe the rook will actually help Aaron raise his game a bit.

AndreJ
12-19-2004, 06:58 PM
I wish I could find that post that I read this morning about Dunta not being a playmaker. He is one of the best rookie corners I've seen in a while. He keeps getting better with each game. There's really not that much difference in the quality of play between Glenn and Robinson right now, in fact Robinson is making plays that Aaron isn't. There's a lot that goes on in the secondary that you can't see on TV. Aaron had a good game today too and maybe the rook will actually help Aaron raise his game a bit.

I just posted about that you should see it come up now.

beerlover
12-19-2004, 07:04 PM
I refrenced this morning in the "Why we need Derrick" thread that Dunta is a playmaker and the equal of the defensive draft darling Sean Taylor the 5th overall pick.

After watching him in only 14 games he gives me the impression of a young Deion Sandars, his body language, leadership the way he carries the ball with both hands, swinging side to side and even though he hasn't returned a INT for a TD everytime he handles it you think he can take it to the house. Sure he still makes rookie mistakes but they are now few and far between, plus he does something that Neon Deion never did, tackle :coolb:

AndreJ
12-19-2004, 07:10 PM
I'm too young to actually remeber Deion in his prime. I've only been watching football for a few years now, but im pretty sure thats a huge compliment. Even at Deion's age now he still has his cover skills.

I was hoping so bad that DROB would return that Int, for a TD today he was so close but stepped out of bounds. And yes you are right the boy can hit. He has 76 tackles on the year so far.

jacquescas
12-19-2004, 07:17 PM
he is definately on track for defensive rookie of the year.

HJam72
12-19-2004, 08:14 PM
I don't know if anyone will ever shut down a receiver like Deion did, but Deion couldn't hit like Dunta in his dreams.

TEXANS84
12-19-2004, 11:56 PM
LOL...Dunta just said on abc that his teammates call him Roy.

Fiddy
12-20-2004, 12:03 AM
LOL...Dunta just said on abc that his teammates call him Roy.I heard. He is the only player in the league with 6 INTs and 3 sacks. :bouncey:

cuppacoffee
12-20-2004, 12:22 AM
I guess I am just a homer but I cant think of one player drafted ahead of him that I would rather have on this team.

cac :coffee:

texansfan88
12-20-2004, 12:41 AM
I guess I am just a homer but I cant think of one player drafted ahead of him that I would rather have on this team.

cac :coffee:
I can, Roy Williams

Ranking the first round picks
1) Roy Williams, Lions
2) Dunta Robinson, Houston
3) Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh (gets help from defense a lot)
4) Jonathon Vilma, NY Jets
5) Tommie Harris, Chicago
6) Vince Wilfork, Patriots
7) Sean Taylor, Redskins
8) Robert Gallery, Oakland
9) Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona
10) D.J. Williams, Denver
11) Kenechi Udeze, Vikings
12) Steven Jackson, Rams
13) Deangelo Hall, Falcons
14) Lee Evans, Buffalo
15) Eli Manning, Giants
16) Reggie Williams, Jacksonville
17) Jason Babin, Houston
18) Chris Gamble, Carolina
19) Kevin Jones, Detroit
20) Will Smith, New Orleans
21) Shawn Andrews, Philadelphia
22) Vernon Carey, Miami
23) Ahmad Carroll, Packers
24) Marcus Tubbs, Seattle
25) Rashaun Woods, 49ers
26)
27) Michael Jenkins, Falcons
28) Chris Perry, Bengals
29) Kellen Winslow, Browns (would have been higher if played)
30) Phillip Rivers, Chargers
31) Ben Watson, New England
32) J.P. Losman, Bills

NOTE: WHO AM I MISSING?

Fiddy
12-20-2004, 12:44 AM
I'd take D-Rob ahead of Roy. Roy has had nagging injuries this year and since we already have a nice 3 headed monster at WR, I think a excellent corner would be more benifical. Plus, that moved allowed Coleman to move to FS so it helped two positions...

wags
12-20-2004, 12:45 AM
You're only missing Michael Clayton. He has over 1,000 yards receiving. It's only a couple hundred more than Roy Williams.

AndreJ
12-20-2004, 12:46 AM
I can, Roy Williams


Roy Williams!!! You're out of your mind, sure he's good but i dont think you understand how good Duntae has made this defense.

If we didn't have D-ROB coleman would still be playing corner and out for the rest of the year which would really hurt!!!!!! And we would still have two garbage safties!!!! Well i partially take that back Glenn Earl has been doing nice and we all know what Jason Simmons can do (Knock the flying **** out of RB's). But drafting D-Rob got us two postions on the D not just 1.

Oh and not to mention his 76 tackles, 6 Int's, 3 sacks, 2 FF etc... you know the usual... :heh:

wags
12-20-2004, 12:50 AM
Gamble should be higher in that ranking. He has six interceptions also. Not near as good as Dunta though.

ComstockLode
12-20-2004, 01:24 AM
The problem with corners like offensive linemen, it is very hard to gauge stats. For instance:
1. How many times has a player got beat for a TD....
2. How many times has he had passing interference penalties...
3. How many yards do his receivers average per game against him.
4. Do offenses fear him and change their offense to keep him away from the ball, or are their too many opportunities to make plays?
5. Is he dominant in pass coverage, and QBs are afraid to throw their way?

CBs are judged more on this, then INTs or pass breakups.

For this year alone, If you had a choice of 3 CBs to be on your team... Would Dunta Robinson be on it?

Grid
12-20-2004, 01:31 AM
if I had the choice of 3 CBs.. yah Dunta would be on it. He is different from other CBs in that he is a VERY capable CB that doubles as a strong saftey in his blitzing and tackling abilities.

He may be the only CB in the league that has the potential to get in your head like an SS or FS would.

This makes him not only talented.. but versatile. A useful tool.

And I havent seen him get REALLY beat since week 5.

whotex8
12-20-2004, 02:51 AM
I voted for DR and think he is superb. One thing kind of bothered me though, or just kinda rubbed me the wrong way and I really just want to say this...hoping I'm wrong. In his interview tonight with Bob Allen on "Inside the Game", he told Bob Allen that he thought he definately deserved to be voted for the Pro-B. I think we all agree.
But, his demeanor seemed on the edge of being arrogant, and Bob Allen (whom I don't always agree with) at one point asked him to "in the future, don't refer to yourself in the 3rd person). I'm a huge fan of DR, but watching him in this interview....he reminded me of self-back-patting players on other teams.
Also, I read game caps on several sites and David C. was quoted saying that "several of the guys on the team said it was too cold and just wanted to go home, but they stuck it out FOR ME"!
Guys....whether it be David Carr, Dunta, etc. Get it right.
I have many years of experience in the corporate world and have always had a problem when a person in leadership refers to anything that refers to "my, mine or doing it for me".
Learn to use "ours, we, and us" instead of "me, I, mine, and myself". I think it is arrogant for people in leadership positions, or otherwise to not know the difference in how to speak, when speaking for or about a "TEAM".
Team...when speaking out...speak as a TEAM MEMBER, not an individual. It comes across wrong. THERE IS NO "I, OR ME" IN TEAM".
It is a Team, whether you win or lose! I seem to hear alot more of "we and us" when the team doesn't do well, but when the really do great.....well..It's all about ME.

TexansCanes
12-20-2004, 03:57 AM
I voted for DR and think he is superb. One thing kind of bothered me though, or just kinda rubbed me the wrong way and I really just want to say this...hoping I'm wrong. In his interview tonight with Bob Allen on "Inside the Game", he told Bob Allen that he thought he definately deserved to be voted for the Pro-B. I think we all agree.

i'm glad he said something like that. if you want to be a shut down corner in this league you have to have a little swagger. that is something that we don't have, hopefully he will keep that attitude, but not get to extreme. you have to have that confidence that the other team can't even look to your side, that is what a true shut down corner does. i do have a problem with what carr said, hopefully the guys that said that were the offensive linemen so we can have a reason to get rid of them.

He may be the only CB in the league that has the potential to get in your head like an SS or FS would.

that might be a bit premature, he has the ability to get to that level, but i wouldn't put him their yet.

Grid
12-20-2004, 04:15 AM
I agree he isnt there yet. Maybe I should have been more precise but thats what I meant by the Potential to do that. His motor and tackling ability makes him more threatening than your average CB. Once he gets more comfortable out there, if he can start laying down some big hits.... well.. that would just be sweet hehe.

Youngstown Colt
12-20-2004, 09:45 AM
Yeah, I'm not a big dunta fan, but this kid is looking very, very good.

did you hear tom jackson give him some props on nfl primetime? he said "theres got to be some pro bowl consideration here"

he plays with a lot of heart, and is a big hitter. You gotta watch out tho, Jason David (referred to by colts fans as "scrappy") is coming for that rookie INT crown

rittenhouserobz
12-23-2004, 08:14 AM
AFC pro-bowl roster (http://www.nfl.com/probowl/afc_roster) Maybe he will get picked as an alternate.

Tory Jmaes has One more int, but Drob has 53 solo tackles to James' 39 and Drob has 3 sacks where James has 0. I have not watched Tory James this year, but I have a hard time thinking he did better than Drob this year.

aj.
12-23-2004, 08:30 AM
James is a nine year vet with a good rep. Dunta is a rookie. Right or wrong, that makes a difference. Give Aaron Glenn Dunta's numbers and he probably goes. Jeremiah Trotter is another guy whose performance in prior years influenced his selection this year IMO. I don't think Dunta got robbed necessarily but he'll be there next year if he keeps it up. The good thing is that this will (should) give him the incentive to keep working hard.

Grid
12-23-2004, 08:38 AM
I just sent my second email to Mike & Mike in the morning. They are talking about the pro bowl and who got snubbed, and said to email them with who you think got snubbed and who he should replace on the team.

Dunta is getting ignored and that aint right.. the kid can flat out play and has been one of, if not THE best CB in the AFC.

Cheroqui
12-23-2004, 10:04 AM
Did he! He should have at least been the third. I'm mad about that one. Do you mean to tell me that because he's a rookie he can't go? It's by numbers and performance isn't it? I wonder if Ben Roethlisberger would go if his numbers were in line with the 3 QB's that are going?

PapaL
12-23-2004, 10:15 AM
Some people did notice what Dunta did this season:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8027113

Should be an alternate though

Chance_C
12-23-2004, 10:42 AM
It's by numbers and performance isn't it?

No it isn't. Just ask the 2003 Jamie Sharper. It's largely a popularity contest. His numbers certainly warranted a trip to Hawaii. Being a rookie on a 6-8 team did not help his name recognition. Keep it up Dunta and you will become a regular to Hawaii.

SESupergenius
12-23-2004, 11:19 AM
There's a lot that goes on in the secondary that you can't see on TV. Aaron had a good game today too and maybe the rook will actually help Aaron raise his game a bit.God if I see him pimp himself for having tickets in the endzone one more time I'm going to kill myself. There is a lot of things of TV that you don't pick up right away while watching a live game too. Enough of beating your chest that you have the best view and that no one can possibley see what you see. I can watch my TVO and slow motion plays all day if I want and pretty much capture everyone on the field. Don't go telling me I can't see Babin or DRob or Glenn on each play.

aj.
12-23-2004, 02:11 PM
Hope you cheer up a bit before the holidays. One day left. Like I've said before, save your rancid comments for someone else because they are lost on me.

For the record, I don't sit in the endzone, and even the best TIVO can't catch action that's not captured by the network cameras - and I don't know about anyone else but one of the things I've noticed over the years is how much action in the secondary that you can see live that you can't see on TV. From what I've seen live and from what I can see on TV Dunta is playing as good or better than Glenn this year. Dunta regularly faces #1 WRs since he and Glenn don't follow a particular WR from strong to weak side.

I go to games and I watch them again on DVD or tape when I get home. Just passing on observations. If what I post bothers you for some reason, please feel free to use the ignore feature, otherwise don't read into posts what isn't there.

Merry Christmas

TexansTrueFan
12-23-2004, 02:30 PM
oh lord come on AJ has more knowledge about the game than any of us ! If he does or dont have endzone tickets thats his buisness. Dont be jelious !

Youngstown Colt
12-23-2004, 02:40 PM
God if I see him pimp himself for having tickets in the endzone one more time I'm going to kill myself. There is a lot of things of TV that you don't pick up right away while watching a live game too. Enough of beating your chest that you have the best view and that no one can possibley see what you see. I can watch my TVO and slow motion plays all day if I want and pretty much capture everyone on the field. Don't go telling me I can't see Babin or DRob or Glenn on each play.put down the haterade son, it's getting to your brain

jr0ck
12-23-2004, 06:08 PM
But, his demeanor seemed on the edge of being arrogant, and Bob Allen (whom I don't always agree with) at one point asked him to "in the future, don't refer to yourself in the 3rd person)

to everyone thinking along these lines, i have a little advice on how to percieve dunta and his third person reference. if i remember correctly, in the interview in question, the stimuli to dunta's comment was gary walker coming up behind bob allen and dunta during the interview and interjecting something like "if he don't go to the pro-bowl, who should?" or "you can see him in hawaii". sorry im not gonna dig up the exact qoute but im confident it was along those lines. well after g-funk made the comment, dunta responded in an impromtu fashion by saying "dunta robinson for pro-bowl".

well anyone who has been around athlete's or been an athlete (i fill both criteria) knows good natured confidence v selfish arrogance. if gary walker hadn't said anything im sure the interview would have been a bunch of ambiguous "we're staying focused/getting ready/excited about a win" comments by dunta and his million dollar smile. but since g-funk said something, it brought the "locker room" atmosphere into the interview and dunta made a good natured, confident statement that has the trapping of an arrogant statement superficially.

the biggest, most telling sign of a selfish athlete is exposed by his on field play. football is one of the best "character filters", if you will, and i haven't seen anything that remotely ressembles in a "me, me, me" player in dunta. not only does he do his job (very well might i add) but he is emerging as a defensive spark and quite possibly a leader, with a few more seasons under his belt. both positions on a team are rarely filled by selfish individuals. just my take, tryin' to defend my boy d-rizzle, and make sure all the "p.c."-ness of bob allen's response isn't taken seriously at all in skewing peoples views.

aj.
12-23-2004, 06:37 PM
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I was also curious about the context and set up of his remarks but I really didn't care enough to go back and read about it. It's much ado about nothing as far as I'm concerned.

Dunta doesn't appear to be a me-me-me guy. He rarely or never showboats after big plays. He gives his all when others have already quit (see the 4th quarter hit he put on the fullback at Denver). Capers and Hoke have talked about his great work ethic. He's a talented young player who is emerging as a leader. I'm glad we have him.

AndreJ
12-23-2004, 07:17 PM
Yo, just leave the guy alone. Yall are like the paparazzi or something, i h8 people who make a big uproar over nothing. What dunta said does not affect any of you in anyway. So the guy may have an ego, so what!?, who cares!?! As long as he goes out every Sunday and makes plays, i could care less what he tells the media, just as long as he doesn't become the next TO. Im happy

Go Dunta!!!!!!!!!!!!! :coolb: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wags
12-24-2004, 02:48 AM
Chris McAlister is going to the Pro Bowl over Dunta. McAlister's stats are 36 tackles, 1 INT, and 7 passes defensed. Dunta has 76 tackles, 6 INT's, and 13 passes defensed. :hmmm:

whotex8
12-24-2004, 03:08 AM
Don't misunderstand my previous statement. I am just so proud of how our team represents themselves on field and in the media that I want them to continue to do so.
I am all about DR. He totally rocks and so does the entire team. His performance speaks for itself.
Modesty speaks for everyone else. Look at Andre Johnson. Bottom line.....I support them 150%, if I didn't, I wouldn't have PSL season tickets .

aphia1996
12-24-2004, 09:36 PM
These just who has the name...Trotter getting in while Kearse wasn't? that is clearly a mistake but he is in. Duanta is clearly one of the best CB's and being tested every game more than the established star CB's. He has played will just like Big Ben in Pit. He should be a Pro Bowler but not this year BECAUSE HE IS A Rook! Not right! It should be about the season at hand but it is all about what kind of fame you have and stuff like that! Jamie Sharper is one of the best LB's but he isn't a pro bowler yeah right!!!

Anyway, D Rob should be in!!!

James H.
Baton Rouge, LA

TexansTrueFan
12-24-2004, 09:43 PM
agree with ya man, its all about past accomplishments. Sharper had an awesome year last season but he was overlooked, also because our team isnt play off calibur or have a winning season. I'm suprised A.J got in !