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Texans_Chick
04-02-2008, 06:08 PM
FanHouse is doing its mock draft, and I'm picking for the Texans. I'd like to give you the opportunity to help. The mock has been picked up to #16 so far, so give me two player names that you would be okay with at the #18 spot that haven't been chosen. You can give reasons why if you would like.

My personal bias is best player available in a position that the Texans aren't completely set at. (i.e. basically no QBs, but everything else is pretty wide open). I have ideas in my head, but I do not want to share so as not to bias the answers in this thread.

Thanks in advance for helping. I may end up linking this thread to the final post.


Here's the mock to date:

1-Dolphins: DE Chris Long
2-Rams: OT Jake Long
3-Falcons: DL Glen Dorsey
4-Raiders: RB Darren McFadden
5-Chiefs: OT Ryan Clady
6-Jets: DE Vernon Gholston
7-Pats: LB Keith Rivers
8-Ravens: QB Matt Ryan
9-Bengals: DT Sedrick Ellis
10-Saints: CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
11-Bills: WR Limas Sweed
12-Broncos: OT Chris Williams
13-Panthers: DE Derrick Harvey
14-Bears: OT Jeff Otah
15-Lions: OT/OG Branden Albert
16-Cardinals: RB Rashard Mendenhall

Ole Miss Texan
04-02-2008, 06:13 PM
Almost a worst case scenario for me with Williams, Albert, Cromartie, Mendenhall, etc off the board.

I would go with CB Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, Aqib Talib, Antoine Cason, or Brandon Flowers. or RB Jonathan Stewart.

Conventional wisdom tells me:
1. CB Leodis McKelvin
2. CB Mike Jenkins

JCTexan
04-02-2008, 06:20 PM
Leodis McKelvin. CB is what I think we will pick, and I believe McKelvin is the best in the draft.

Mike Jenkins. Jenkins is one of the best 2 or 3 Corners in the draft, but I personally don't think the Texans will pick him because of his character.

1. McKelvin
2. Jenkins

Lucky
04-02-2008, 06:38 PM
1. CB Leodis McKelvin
2. CB Aqib Talib

McKelvin is a no brainer, where need meets BPA.

The 2nd choice would be tougher if Jonathan Stewart were healthy. There has to be a limit on how many injured RBs a team can carry, right?

For a defensive that finished last in interceptions, a playmaker like Talib would really help.

I also like Auburn's Quentin Groves, but I don't think I could sell another d-lineman in the 1st round to the fans. Plus, I'm not sure if he's an every down player.

Nawzer
04-02-2008, 06:56 PM
CB. Leodis McKelvin for me too. I want a left tackle but in this particular draft it seems going with McKelvin, who's arguably the best corner in this draft, is the best option.

Trap_Star
04-02-2008, 06:59 PM
Stewart:) and McKelvin.

Fox
04-02-2008, 07:13 PM
1. CB Leodis McKelvin
2. CB Aqib Talib

McKelvin is a no brainer, where need meets BPA.

The 2nd choice would be tougher if Jonathan Stewart were healthy. There has to be a limit on how many injured RBs a team can carry, right?

For a defensive that finished last in interceptions, a playmaker like Talib would really help.

I also like Auburn's Quentin Groves, but I don't think I could sell another d-lineman in the 1st round to the fans. Plus, I'm not sure if he's an every down player.

I agree with this. Disappointed all those tackles are already off the board, but also very surprised to see McKelvin slipped that far. He's been the #1 CB taken in most of the mocks I've seen. If he gets taken next Talib wouldn't be a bad value at 18 IMO.

Hardcore Texan
04-02-2008, 07:58 PM
1. McKelvin
2. Mike Jenkins

I think CB and OT are our most glaring needs (stating the obvious here, I know), you could make a case for either one being the biggest need and it be justified. Since the top tier OL are off the board at this point, it's time to hope Gibbs does what he has been brought in to do with a 3rd round and possibly later OL selections and we focus on CB at #18.

BSofA04
04-02-2008, 08:02 PM
1. McKelvin (Can't believe he fell that far)
2. Talib

Texans_Chick
04-02-2008, 08:37 PM
1. McKelvin (Can't believe he fell that far)
2. Talib

Well, he might not fall. The 17th pick hasn't been made yet.

In fact, I am guessing that he might go next.

We will have to wait to find out.

The Pencil Neck
04-02-2008, 09:12 PM
Hate to be a sheeple but after reading that list, the first three names that came to mind were:

1. Leodis McKelvin
2a. Mike Jenkins
2b. Aqib Talib

Honoring Earl 34
04-02-2008, 09:22 PM
1. Leodis McKelvin
2. Mike Jenkins

I've looked at some mocks and they have the Vikings taking a QB or a DE .

sheeple ... bah bah .

threetoedpete
04-03-2008, 11:32 AM
Almost a worst case scenario for me with Williams, Albert, Cromartie, Mendenhall, etc off the board.

I would go with CB Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, Aqib Talib, Antoine Cason, or Brandon Flowers. or RB Jonathan Stewart.

Conventional wisdom tells me:
1. CB Leodis McKelvin
2. CB Mike Jenkins

agreed. Might well happen....trade back.

nunusguy
04-03-2008, 12:06 PM
agreed. Might well happen....trade back.
Most everybody wants to move back, hardly anybody wants to move up.

Ole Miss Texan
04-03-2008, 12:11 PM
agreed. Might well happen....trade back.

Most everybody wants to move back, hardly anybody wants to move up.

That's what I'm reading as well. (a) I'd love to trade back (b) after reading on other teams' boards, it sounds like every teams' fans want them to either trade up for player x or to trade down.

I think the team(s) that do end up trading down, will probably have to do it at a discount this year. It's kind of weird but I'm getting the feeling that a team actually wanting to trade up may be in a better position as far as a leverage stand point because of so many teams wanting to trade down. they just say 'okay, well thanks for listening but we'll make the trade with 1 of 5 other teams that are talking to us.'

Of course that's speculation and fans' views, not the GM's.

TexansSeminole
04-03-2008, 12:22 PM
Go with McKelvin or Mike Jenkins. Personally, I would take Jenkins.

nunusguy
04-03-2008, 12:37 PM
That's what I'm reading as well. (a) I'd love to trade back (b) after reading on other teams' boards, it sounds like every teams' fans want them to either trade up for player x or to trade down.

I think the team(s) that do end up trading down, will probably have to do it at a discount this year. It's kind of weird but I'm getting the feeling that a team actually wanting to trade up may be in a better position as far as a leverage stand point because of so many teams wanting to trade down. they just say 'okay, well thanks for listening but we'll make the trade with 1 of 5 other teams that are talking to us.'

Of course that's speculation and fans' views, not the GM's.
Very perceptive. But then maybe I feel that way because I share your views ?
Nevertheless, in this environment (which is it's clearly a "buyers market" for those few teams willing to trade up), perhaps a shrewd GM like Rick Smith would take advantage of the situation and be open to moving up since that's where the real value might be in this Draft ?

beerlover
04-03-2008, 01:02 PM
if the Vikings select Leodis then I would look @ Jonathan Stewart or Mike Jenkins :)

even if this is the worst case scenero the 18th pick will yield a starter for the Texans, I'm sure they'll listen to offers :phone:

threetoedpete
04-03-2008, 06:05 PM
if the Vikings select Leodis then I would look @ Jonathan Stewart or Mike Jenkins :)

even if this is the worst case scenero the 18th pick will yield a starter for the Texans, I'm sure they'll listen to offers :phone:

but not the high end OLT...always wait untill next year isn't it ? Or wait untill Charles gets back... always something. So I wonder which Seth Wand prospect it will be this time ?

Ole Miss Texan
04-03-2008, 06:11 PM
but not the high end OLT...always wait untill next year isn't it ? Or wait untill Charles gets back... always something. So I wonder which Seth Wand prospect it will be this time ?

I get where your coming from and believe me I'm standing right next to you (Williams and Albert are MY favorite prospects for the 1st). We gotta get that LT for Schaub.

But in this case: Long, Clady, Williams, and even Otah are all off the board. Albert is off the board so the next LT we'd be looking at would probably either be Sam Baker or Anthony Collins and I'm not too sure they are worth the 18th overall pick (generally considered mid-2nd rounders at this point). There's gotta be better players out there (and they would even fit a need).

Honoring Earl 34
04-03-2008, 06:29 PM
I get where your coming from and believe me I'm standing right next to you (Williams and Albert are MY favorite prospects for the 1st). We gotta get that LT for Schaub.

But in this case: Long, Clady, Williams, and even Otah are all off the board. Albert is off the board so the next LT we'd be looking at would probably either be Sam Baker or Anthony Collins and I'm not too sure they are worth the 18th overall pick (generally considered mid-2nd rounders at this point). There's gotta be better players out there (and they would even fit a need).

I agree ... Leodis McKelvin is ranked as high as the #10 prospect on some sites . The next OT is Gosder in the late 20's .

nero THE zero
04-03-2008, 06:33 PM
1. Leodis McKelvin
2. Jonathan Stewart

infantrycak
04-03-2008, 06:36 PM
I get where your coming from and believe me I'm standing right next to you (Williams and Albert are MY favorite prospects for the 1st). We gotta get that LT for Schaub.

But in this case: Long, Clady, Williams, and even Otah are all off the board. Albert is off the board so the next LT we'd be looking at would probably either be Sam Baker or Anthony Collins and I'm not too sure they are worth the 18th overall pick (generally considered mid-2nd rounders at this point). There's gotta be better players out there (and they would even fit a need).

Somebody remind me of the last time 5 OT's not just LT's went off the board in the first 18 picks?

I'll give you the last time 5 OT's went in the first round--1995, and only 1 of those went above 18.

Honoring Earl 34
04-03-2008, 06:41 PM
Somebody remind me of the last time 5 OT's not just LT's went off the board in the first 18 picks?

I'll give you the last time 5 OT's went in the first round--1995, and only 1 of those went above 18.

That's what I thought but these are the cards that are dealt in this mock .

beerlover
04-03-2008, 06:54 PM
I think this board has a natural inclination to highly value the position, & rightfully so. its been painful & basicly the Texans had to start all over after four years. in reality we are coming into year 3 of Kubiack & Company. there have been some bumps in the road (injurys) but when it comes to the draft & free agency Rick Smith has rolled. it wouldnt surprise me if he was able to trade down & still address LT :)

Texans_Chick
04-03-2008, 07:05 PM
I think this board has a natural inclination to highly value the position, & rightfully so. its been painful & basicly the Texans had to start all over after four years. in reality we are coming into year 3 of Kubiack & Company. there have been some bumps in the road (injurys) but when it comes to the draft & free agency Rick Smith has rolled. it wouldnt surprise me if he was able to trade down & still address LT :)

No trade downs in the mock though I'd love to see one work out. But if there were a quality CB available at #18 and the Texans passed, the draft party could get a little hinky.

Texans_Chick
04-10-2008, 12:28 AM
Picks #17 and #18 go up tomorrow.

Thanks all for your imput.

This mock has more commentary than a lot of them. You can check out what has been written at this link:

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/tag/mockdraft08/

The 17th pick should go up at 8:00 am central, and the 18th pick will go up at 1:00 pm.

After the entire mock is done, we will probably do a round table about it.

Thanks again!

Wolf
04-17-2008, 03:27 PM
FanHouse Mock Draft: Houston Texans Select CB Leodis McKelvin No 18


The Texans have to like a draft that is particularly deep in cornerbacks, offensive linemen, and running backs, because 2008 may be a year where need perfectly fits best player available.

Do I really think that Leodis McKelvin will be available at #18? Probably not, but it is theoretically possible that a very good cornerback will be available at the 18th spot if the top offensive linemen are already taken off the board.

It has been painful in every way to watch the Texans secondary since 2004, and one of the few bright spots, Dunta Robinson went down with a hamstring/knee injury that was so awful that the television broadcasts refused to show the ugly replay. Robinson says he will be back faster than everyone expects (unfortunately for him, it is his contract year), but as I understand for his type of injuries the best prescription is hard work and an unhurried time.
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from TC's link above