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CloakNNNdagger
03-25-2008, 10:32 PM
Am I the only one that missed Abbate's resigning 2 days after he was placed on waivers (per the official site's bio (http://www.houstontexans.com/team/player.asp?player_id=293))???????

Errant Hothy
03-25-2008, 10:34 PM
He re-singed nearly a month ago

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

2/29/2008 Re-signed FB Jon Abbate.

infantrycak
03-25-2008, 10:35 PM
Waiting to be a victim of the numbers game.

CloakNNNdagger
03-25-2008, 10:36 PM
Anyone think the Texans may try him at his original LB position?

Lucky
03-25-2008, 10:39 PM
Waiting to be a victim of the numbers game.
I thought he looked pretty good in the limited time he had at FB. He seemed to have a good feel for the passing game. He'll have to make an impression on special teams to make the team, though.

Specnatz
03-25-2008, 10:45 PM
Anyone think the Texans may try him at his original LB position?

NO, because of other signings and because of rookie LB Zach Diles whom seems to be someone Kubiak loves.

I thought he looked pretty good in the limited time he had at FB. He seemed to have a good feel for the passing game. He'll have to make an impression on special teams to make the team, though.

He is not going to be a numbers hit if he can prove his worth on special teams. Last year what little he did show was a moot point because of the injury. If he can show any value at all his cap numbers would indicate in keeping him.

infantrycak
03-25-2008, 10:45 PM
I thought he looked pretty good in the limited time he had at FB. He seemed to have a good feel for the passing game. He'll have to make an impression on special teams to make the team, though.

I thought he looked decent as well--definitely would need to stand out on special teams though. I wasn't actually commenting on him so much as what may become a log jam. Leach & Cook + Green, Taylor, Brown plus a rookie--and then there is going to be a spot for Abbate. If there is a spot it is likely on the PS.

Vinny
03-26-2008, 08:12 AM
Anyone think the Texans may try him at his original LB position?
he ran a 5.1 at the combine...he's way too slow and short (slow and small) to be a linebacker in the NFL. I think you can overcome 'short' with great speed if you are a linebacker, but perhaps not often if you are slow.

Cjeremy635
03-26-2008, 08:22 AM
he ran a 5.1 at the combine...he's way too slow and short (slow and small) to be a linebacker in the NFL. I think you can overcome 'short' with great speed if you are a linebacker, but perhaps not often if you are slow.

I agree with that.....but isn't it said that he has a great motor? I thought I remember reading that after the draft last year. I know having a motor and being fast are two different things, but it is a good attribute. If the kid just won't quit, maybe he can earn a spot on ST, as some of you have said, and maybe he can turn into a servicable FB.

CloakNNNdagger
03-26-2008, 08:52 AM
When I came across this info at NFLDRAFTSCOUT.COM (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/nflcombineprofile.php?pyid=11803), I had to scratch my head.............He was waived by the Texans in light of a failed physical
and then quickly resigned. Did he reinjure his ankle? Somewhat puzzling that he would change physical status over a 48 hour period.

bigbrewster2000
03-26-2008, 09:00 AM
he ran a 5.1 at the combine...he's way too slow and short (slow and small) to be a linebacker in the NFL. I think you can overcome 'short' with great speed if you are a linebacker, but perhaps not often if you are slow.

That 40 time is misleading, because he ran that 40 with a severely pulled hammy. Now, granted I dont really know what he would have run had he been completely healthy 4.8 maybe. While I dont think you could overcome a 5.1 40 time with great football instincts, you may be able to with a 4.8.

None of that matters though because I dont think he will be a LB either. I would like to see him on the team though but that has more to do with all the stuff he has dealt with over the last few ears than anything else. If he beats out Cook for the backup job, im all for it.

CloakNNNdagger
03-26-2008, 09:02 AM
he ran a 5.1 at the combine...he's way too slow and short (slow and small) to be a linebacker in the NFL. I think you can overcome 'short' with great speed if you are a linebacker, but perhaps not often if you are slow.

As relates to his 40 at the combine. Wasn't he the one that tore a hammy at the beginning of the combine and still ran through his mobility testing ......................and then never went on to perform at his Pro Day at all because of that same hammy injury? His size is certainly a concern, but is his tagged 5.1 speed legitimate?

Sorry, BigBrew, but evidentlyI was posting while you were too.

Vinny
03-26-2008, 09:08 AM
As relates to his 40 at the combine. Wasn't he the one that tore a hammy at the beginning of the combine and still ran through his mobility testing ......................and then never went on to perform at his Pro Day at all because of that same hammy injury? His size is certainly a concern, but is his tagged 5.1 speed legitimate?

Sorry, BigBrew, but evidentlyI was posting while you were too.That 40 time is misleading, because he ran that 40 with a severely pulled hammy. Now, granted I dont really know what he would have run had he been completely healthy 4.8 maybe. While I dont think you could overcome a 5.1 40 time with great football instincts, you may be able to with a 4.8.

None of that matters though because I dont think he will be a LB either. I would like to see him on the team though but that has more to do with all the stuff he has dealt with over the last few ears than anything else. If he beats out Cook for the backup job, im all for it.You are right about the combine time but at least to me, Abbate just doesn't look like a linebacker on top of not being all that fast. I'm pretty sure Wake Forrest ran schemes to funnel everyone to him to make the tackle. I've seen short, not necessarily fast guys flourish in the middle over the years so yeah, anything can happen. I'd like to see if Kubiak can turn into a fb too.

bigbrewster2000
03-26-2008, 09:12 AM
You are right about the combine time but at least to me, Abbate just doesn't look like a linebacker on top of not being all that fast. I'm pretty sure Wake Forrest ran schemes to funnel everyone to him to make the tackle. I've seen short, not necessarily fast guys flourish in the middle over the years so yeah, anything can happen. I'd like to see if Kubiak can turn into a fb too.

So you want our coach to be the FB now do you?:whip: :whip: :confused: :hides:

BigBull17
03-26-2008, 09:34 AM
Hey, whatever gets Cook off of this team is ok in my book. Id rather have Hester, but you know the old saying... Want in one hand, crap in the other...

CloakNNNdagger
03-26-2008, 10:42 AM
Hey, whatever gets Cook off of this team is ok in my book. Id rather have Hester, but you know the old saying... Want in one hand, crap in the other...

Given the choice, I'll take the crap anytime.

C. Casserly

badboy
03-26-2008, 10:50 AM
So you want our coach to be the FB now do you?:whip: :whip: :confused: :hides:Kubiac could make the team but would have to do well on special teams. I was hoping he could be the 3rd QB? He is a seasoned vet and is used to not being the starter. Wait, what could we get for him in a trade?

Insideop
03-26-2008, 10:53 AM
I thought he looked decent as well--definitely would need to stand out on special teams though. I wasn't actually commenting on him so much as what may become a log jam. Leach & Cook + Green, Taylor, Brown plus a rookie--and then there is going to be a spot for Abbate. If there is a spot it is likely on the PS.

This was my thought too. I don't think he will beat out Cook unless he has a really good TC and Preseason, but I don't think they want to let him go either. They like that toughness, grit and tenacity. Another year on the PS and he may be ready. JMHO!

BigBull17
03-26-2008, 11:14 AM
Given the choice, I'll take the crap anytime.

C. Casserly

Yeah, he has already called all divison rivals to see how he can help with their cap problems...

bigbrewster2000
03-26-2008, 02:03 PM
Kubiac could make the team but would have to do well on special teams. I was hoping he could be the 3rd QB? He is a seasoned vet and is used to not being the starter. Wait, what could we get for him in a trade?

I wouldnt do the deal for less than a 2nd for sure.:cool:

beerlover
03-26-2008, 02:21 PM
Waiting to be a victim of the numbers game.

correct answear, this ain't your expansion franchise no more :cool:

DieselDeac
03-27-2008, 09:47 PM
You are right about the combine time but at least to me, Abbate just doesn't look like a linebacker on top of not being all that fast. I'm pretty sure Wake Forrest ran schemes to funnel everyone to him to make the tackle. I've seen short, not necessarily fast guys flourish in the middle over the years so yeah, anything can happen. I'd like to see if Kubiak can turn into a fb too.

Wake did nothing of the sort. I'm a season ticket holder for the Deacs for the last five years, and Abbate is one our our all-time favorites. He ranged all over the field to make plays, and came up big in big games (see the game winning INT against UNC, the 15+ tackles in the Orange Bowl, etc). Abbate ran down RBs, hit WRs across the middle of the field, and generally made plays all across the field. His future with the Texans is at FB, though. He's not afraid to throw himself into the defender and plays with tremendous intensity and intelligence. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him wind up as our FB2 next year. I think he'll spend one more year practice squadding to gain experience and then make the team for 2009.

cuppacoffee
03-27-2008, 10:38 PM
I agree with that.....but isn't it said that he has a great motor? I thought I remember reading that after the draft last year. I know having a motor and being fast are two different things, but it is a good attribute. If the kid just won't quit, maybe he can earn a spot on ST, as some of you have said, and maybe he can turn into a servicable FB.


Hurt my knuckle trying to kill that bug...:D

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