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beerlover
03-14-2008, 10:02 AM
1. Chris Long DE 6-4, 285 Virginia
2. Glenn Dorsey DT 6-2, 300 LSU
3. Matt Ryan QB 6-4, 220 Boston College
4. Jake Long OT 6-7, 320 Michigan
5. Darren McFadden RB 6-1, 215 Arkansas
6. Vernon Gholston DE 6-4, 260 Ohio State
7. Sedric Ellis DT 6-2, 295 USC
8. Ryan Clady OT 6-5, 320 Boise State
9. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB 6-1, 185 Tennessee State
10. Leodis McKelvin CB 5-11, 190 Troy
11. Derrick Harvey DE 6-4, 245 Florida
12. Chris Williams OT 6-5, 320 Vanderbilt
13. Rashard Mendenhall RB 5-11,195 Illinois
14. Keith Rivers LB 6-3, 220 USC
15. Branden Albert OG 6-6, 335 Virginia
16. Brian Brohm QB 6-3, 230 Louisville
17. Phillip Merling DE 6-5, 272 Clemson
18. Mike Jenkins CB 5-11, 200 South Florida
19. Jonathan Stewart RB 5-11, 235 Oregon
20. Malcolm Kelly WR 6-4, 220 Oklahoma
21. Aqib Talib DB 6-1, 205 Kansas
22. Jeff Otah OT 6-7, 340 Pittsburgh
23. Kentwan Balmer DT 6-5, 308 North Carolina
24. Devin Thomas WR 6-1, 215 Michigan State
25. Antoine Cason CB 6-0, 191 Arizona
26. DeSean Jackson WR 5-11, 165 California
27. Kenny Phillips FS 6-1, 205 Miami
28. Quentin Groves DE 6-4, 255 Auburn
29. Dan Connor LB 6-2, 233 Penn State
30. Limas Sweed WR 6-4, 215 Texas
31. Chris Johnson RB 5-11, 200 East Carolina
32. Joe Flacco QB 6-7, 236 Delaware

this is my latest draft board a little over 1 month away from the 08 NFL Draft. Yes I have Cromartie rated as a top 10 pick & the #1 corner prospect. I also like Cason higher than alot of folks, don't care he is a 1st rd. cornerback plain & simple wherever you slot him. I knew Chris Johnson was fast, watched game film & that doesn't lie, but my biggest surprise is probably Joe Flacco. everytime this guy worked out he was impressive, in the final anaylsis he could be the best qb to come out of this draft class. He reminds me of a hybred Matt Schaub, bigger, faster, stronger with good head on his shoulders, he can make all the throws, has superior height in pocket so can read the field & keep tipped balls to minimum. IMO he should be the target of the Falcons, they have two 2nd rd. picks which ironically is what they got for Schaub, to be sure they get him they could start calling about the Texans pick to see if Rick is interested.

beerlover
03-14-2008, 12:19 PM
recap by position:

cb-5
ot-4
rb-4
wr-4
olb-4
dt-3
qb-3
de-2
ilb-1
og-1
s-1
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YoungTexanFan
03-14-2008, 12:21 PM
I'm not a big fan of Merling or Sweed. I also don't think Thomas sneaks that high into the first. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like James Hardey sneaks into the end of the first as well. Also, with Stewarts injury, I think he drops further than 19.

beerlover
03-14-2008, 12:48 PM
I'm not a big fan of Merling or Sweed. I also don't think Thomas sneaks that high into the first. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like James Hardey sneaks into the end of the first as well. Also, with Stewarts injury, I think he drops further than 19.

I understand the feeling on the street about Merling & Sweed.

Sweed is especially frustrating because he is so talented & athletically gifted. Should be in the mix for the Titans @ #24.

Merling draft stock has plummeted because of a sports hernia so he has been unable to workout for NFL teams. that however does not change his pro-outlook for me, is similar player to Jamaal Anderson, Atlanta, played w/Gaines Adams @ Clemson. I would not be surprised if the Eagles select him @ #19.

our difference of opinion about Stewart started long before his turf toe operation was reported suffice it to say I feel the same way about him as you do about Talib. you understand what I'm talking about when someone downgrades your schools player for something minor, when you've seen about all his game film etc, etc, etc....all I know in both cases some team is gonna get a player that can shine @ the next level :)

nunusguy
03-14-2008, 01:55 PM
15. Detroit - Jeff Otah, OT, Pitt
18. Houston - Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
I've tried to resist putting him here but I can't. I have all of the first round LTs that they might look at off the board and I just think Sam Baker, Anthony Collins or Gosder Cherilus would be way too early here.
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Your mock leaves Jeff Otah on the Board even though he's there for us,
but I'd do what local Draft guru LZ does and jump on him since he's got
Otah going at 15 to Detroit and specically mentions our need at that positon.
Afterall, Otah probably has more upside than the OT the Cards took last year
at #5 overall. His name escapes me at the moment ?
BTW, LZ has a few minutes from Youtube on running back Chris Johnson from
Carolina on this link. Unless he's playing aginst 7th graders, that guy is 'bout that fastest player I've ever seen on a football field.

Lucky
03-14-2008, 02:51 PM
BTW, LZ has a few minutes from Youtube on running back Chris Johnson from
Carolina on this link. Unless he's playing aginst 7th graders, that guy is 'bout that fastest player I've ever seen on a football field.
Johnson speed is special. But as with Reggie Bush, the question is how to use that speed. A team that can incorporate Johnson's skills into their offense will have a special player. A team that attempts to fit him into a preconceived mold as to what a RB is, will be disappointed.

threetoedpete
03-14-2008, 03:43 PM
I'm not a big fan of Merling or Sweed. I also don't think Thomas sneaks that high into the first. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like James Hardey sneaks into the end of the first as well. Also, with Stewarts injury, I think he drops further than 19.

I'm thinking...there m@y not be @ WR go off in the first....might h@ppen. No one is worth first round contr@ct. they @ll h@ve holes in the top of the t@llent guys....@nd there @re lot of them in this dr@ft. No C@lvin Johnon's...just @ herd of nice propects....there is no re@son this dr@ft to over p@y for them.
None...@nyone who does is very foolish. I'm hoping Tennesse @nd J@cksonville indugles themelves with one.

@greed there YTF....no one is going to w@nt to touch th@t foot with @ ten foot pole...


Afterall, Otah probably has more upside than the OT the Cards took last year
at #5 overall.

@ssumption is the mother of @ll FUs. Levi Brown is @ very Elite RT...Ot@h c@n only hope to develope into @nything th@t is close.

Lucky
03-14-2008, 04:48 PM
I'm thinking...there m@y not be @ WR go off in the first....might h@ppen.
It might happen. If it did, it would be near historic. The last draft where a WR wasn't selected in the 1st round was 1990, when Alexander Wright was taken by Dallas with the top pick in the 2nd round (#26 overall). The last time a WR wasn't taken among the top 31 picks was 1966. 42 drafts ago.

While I agree that this isn't a strong WR class at the top (there is good depth), I don't think this is a historically bad WR draft class. My guess is that 3 make it into the back half of the opening round (Kelly, Thomas, & Jackson).

YoungTexanFan
03-14-2008, 04:51 PM
I understand the feeling on the street about Merling & Sweed.

Sweed is especially frustrating because he is so talented & athletically gifted. Should be in the mix for the Titans @ #24.

Merling draft stock has plummeted because of a sports hernia so he has been unable to workout for NFL teams. that however does not change his pro-outlook for me, is similar player to Jamaal Anderson, Atlanta, played w/Gaines Adams @ Clemson. I would not be surprised if the Eagles select him @ #19.

our difference of opinion about Stewart started long before his turf toe operation was reported suffice it to say I feel the same way about him as you do about Talib. you understand what I'm talking about when someone downgrades your schools player for something minor, when you've seen about all his game film etc, etc, etc....all I know in both cases some team is gonna get a player that can shine @ the next level :)

We don't need to and we won't go into Stewart. Those thoughts are already on the table. I don't know if Merling has enough ability to get after the passer at the next level consistently, and that is a big concern for first round DE's. He is a complete DE, but I think he is more similar to Anthony Weaver than he is to Jamal Anderson. Merling is very adept at stopping the run and holding the outside.

Sweed really has never impressed me at all. I actually hope he is drafted by Tennessee. I would laugh. For weeks. Weeks. I will predict it now, Sweed will not be successful in the NFL, and even less so if he is paired up with Vince Young in a pro offense.

YoungTexanFan
03-14-2008, 04:55 PM
It might happen. If it did, it would be near historic. The last draft where a WR wasn't selected in the 1st round was 1990, when Alexander Wright was taken by Dallas with the top pick in the 2nd round (#26 overall). The last time a WR wasn't taken among the top 31 picks was 1966. 42 drafts ago.

While I agree that this isn't a strong WR class at the top (there is good depth), I don't think this is a historically bad WR draft class. My guess is that 3 make it into the back half of the opening round (Kelly, Thomas, & Jackson).

I think Jackson will be taken in the first. Some team will be stupid and select a guy who weighs as much as a HS freshman DB. He will be a great return man in the NFL, don't get that wrong, but he will be only that. Some stupid team will take him in the top 20 picks and I will laugh. Think Troy Williamson with less actual WR ability.

Kelly will go in the first round most likely. I have him as my #1 WR, and he could go to Buffalo. I don't think Thomas sneaks in, but he isn't NFL ready. I think James Hardey from Indiana will be a surprise in the NFL, though I don't know if he will make it to the first round.

beerlover
03-14-2008, 10:03 PM
@ssumption is the mother of @ll FUs. Levi Brown is @ very Elite RT...Ot@h c@n only hope to develope into @nything th@t is close.

let it go big guy. nuns is just pl@ying its @n inside joke when he d@red tre@d on @ s@cred beerlover pl@yer by the n@me of LEVI BROWN