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ArlingtonTexan
02-28-2008, 03:49 PM
Per chorn.com

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5579250.html

The Texans reached agreement today on a new contract with wide receiver and kick returner Andre Davis.

Davis' agent Kennard McGuire and Texans general manager Rick Smith spent the last two days in intense talks before reaching an agreement that keeps Davis from becoming an unrestricted free agent.

Hutch13
02-28-2008, 03:50 PM
Yay!:fans:

TEXANS84
02-28-2008, 03:50 PM
Just saw it...just popped in. Cool...good to hear.

Glad to see our receiving core locked down.

Errant Hothy
02-28-2008, 03:51 PM
Ain't nothing wrong with that!!!!!

Wonder what the cost is?

And good-bye Mr. Mathis.

Ole Miss Texan
02-28-2008, 03:52 PM
Per chorn.com

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5579250.html

Re-signed with the Texans = excellent
Resigned from the Texans = not so excellent

This is very very very good.

alphajoker
02-28-2008, 03:55 PM
:splits:

Cjeremy635
02-28-2008, 03:56 PM
Yay!:fans:

ditto......:specnatz:

Specnatz
02-28-2008, 03:56 PM
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o195/Specnatz/tailgate.gif


:specnatz:


:doot:

ArlingtonTexan
02-28-2008, 03:57 PM
Re-signed with the Texans = excellent
Resigned from the Texans = not so excellent

This is very very very good.

Caught when i was posting another message board and just did an edit.

Dread-Head
02-28-2008, 03:58 PM
:splits: THAT'S RIGHT IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!:splits:

GlassHalfFull
02-28-2008, 03:58 PM
I almost had heart failure, I read it as he resigned as in

1. to give up an office or position, often formally (often fol. by from): to resign from the presidency.

Why in the world would one word have two almost completely opposite meanings?

Back to the celebration... :texflag:

michaelm
02-28-2008, 03:58 PM
I've had the feeling that Davis would stay with the team.
I think, considering the fact that he has bounced around a bit in his career, he may have decided to stay where he knows he fits into the system, and he has been productive, rather than chase a little more $$$ and end up in a situation that isn't right and might potentially lead to the demise of his career.

I don't have the same happy feeling about Demps, but I really hope I'm wrong on that one.

WesmanTexanfan
02-28-2008, 04:00 PM
Too keep the smilies theme goin.....

:redtowel: lol: :coolb: :sbad: :gotexans1 :headbang:

chicagotexan2
02-28-2008, 04:01 PM
YES!! Good work.

drewmar74
02-28-2008, 04:01 PM
:splits: THAT'S RIGHT IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!:splits:

QFT

Texans Pride
02-28-2008, 04:01 PM
Right on!

Glad to keep him home with us!

TexanSam
02-28-2008, 04:03 PM
:doot:

Thorn
02-28-2008, 04:04 PM
This is very good news.

Texan_Bill
02-28-2008, 04:04 PM
Where are all those people that didn't even think Andre Davis would make the Texans roster last season....?!? :hmmm:

bah007
02-28-2008, 04:05 PM
Where are all those people that didn't even think Andre Davis would make the Texans roster last season....?!? :hmmm:

I thought they all joined the Carolina boards?

HOU-TEX
02-28-2008, 04:07 PM
Where are all those people that didn't even think Andre Davis would make the Texans roster last season....?!? :hmmm:

IDK. Was I one of them? I can't remember yesterday much less last year. :specnatz:

I think this is great to get it done this early. One less thing for SmithGM to worry about. Now get out there and get some more. :thisbig:

badboy
02-28-2008, 04:07 PM
After I heard his agent this morning on 610 saying Andre had found a home I was like OK.

PHAROAH
02-28-2008, 04:08 PM
Good i hope that we didn't over spend.

GuerillaBlack
02-28-2008, 04:13 PM
Glad to hear this.

Texan_Bill
02-28-2008, 04:13 PM
IDK. Was I one of them? I can't remember yesterday much less last year. :specnatz:

I think this is great to get it done this early. One less thing for SmithGM to worry about. Now get out there and get some more. :thisbig:

Here were some posts - way back when:

I remember asking about Andre Davis back in June and some of the responses were:

Davis is in a make it or break it year for his career. He should be a cheap addition if he makes the squad. My understanding is few think he makes the roster.

He's really going to have to step up. If he can get the job done, great. I haven't heard anything about how he's been looking so far. We'll have to wait for TC to really see where he's at.

I think Andre Davis will be cut.

How good is Andre Davis really?

:cowboy1:

Double Barrel
02-28-2008, 04:15 PM
Good news!!! :splits:

Where are all those people that didn't even think Andre Davis would make the Texans roster last season....?!? :hmmm:

They are with those same folks that thought Kevin Walter could never make a good no. 2 WR.

65 catches later.....

El Tejano
02-28-2008, 04:16 PM
Well knowing that Davis signed before FA begins means that he wanted to stay here all along. I hereby declare 02-28-08 Andre Davis day. Andre, You're A Texan!!!!!!

Mr. White
02-28-2008, 04:17 PM
Good news. Now refer to the the signature.

SheTexan
02-28-2008, 04:17 PM
GREAT NEWS!! I needed a pick me up today, and that little piece of news made me come up with my own smilie, one that is plastered to my face!!

Brando
02-28-2008, 04:18 PM
Good News indeed!

:fans:

LORK 88
02-28-2008, 04:18 PM
Great start to the offseason!! And I can proudly say that I took part in a depth chart challenge where I had him making the roster last season.

Hervoyel
02-28-2008, 04:19 PM
Where are all those people that didn't even think Andre Davis would make the Texans roster last season....?!? :hmmm:


Still here and glad to be wrong. Prior to last season Andre hadn't done much and it's safe I think to say that he badly needed a season like the one he just had.

Now he needs to do it again.

Goldensilence
02-28-2008, 04:25 PM
Here were some posts - way back when:











:cowboy1:

Hate to burst your bubble there Bill but at the time I don't see how any of those weren't vaild questions. It's not like you were leading the AD for #2 parade or swearing up and down he'd do half of what transpired.

I credit him for stepping up when the oppurtunity arose. I'm really glad he deceided to resign with us to continue building on what can be a great next season for the Texans and loyal fans like you and me.

kiwitexansfan
02-28-2008, 04:25 PM
Last year signing Andre Davis hardly registered a ripple, today it is officially Andre Davis day, what a difference a year makes....

Contract details please... then I will really celebrate. In saying that I trust the front office not to overpay.

Nawzer
02-28-2008, 04:28 PM
Good to have Andre Davis back. Wish him many more happy returns!!!

Triple347
02-28-2008, 04:28 PM
Yes! This also makes me very happy! I really think our receiving corpse is now in the top 5 in the entire NFL, and we don't have to rely on unproven kick returners.

Kaiser Toro
02-28-2008, 04:29 PM
Where are all those people that didn't even think Andre Davis would make the Texans roster last season....?!? :hmmm:

From 4/13/07 and straddled that middle nicely :splits:

I liked Davis when he was at V Tech and with the Browns. It seemed every catch the guy made it was a TD or a chain mover.

He played with Browns in the Couch years and then with the Pats and last year with Losman. This could be the right place at the right time, but I would not hold my breath.

infantrycak
02-28-2008, 04:30 PM
I really think our receiving corpse is now in the top 5 in the entire NFL

Well, they are drop dead good.

Texan_Bill
02-28-2008, 04:33 PM
Hate to burst your bubble there Bill but at the time I don't see how any of those weren't vaild questions. It's not like you were leading the AD for #2 parade or swearing up and down he'd do half of what transpired.

I credit him for stepping up when the oppurtunity arose. I'm really glad he deceided to resign with us to continue building on what can be a great next season for the Texans and loyal fans like you and me.

Valid questions - yes!! But I only grabbed a few quotes. Some were that he absolutely had no chance of making the roster whatsoever. Some of those same people thought that 67 y/o Keenan McCardell had a better shot of making the roster.

By the same token, I am not taking any credit for being right about Davis, but I did feel like a change of scenery would do him some good. He was pretty well thought of coming out of college (at least as a second rounder), but could never really get it going in Cleveland because of injury and really didnt see much time in Buffalo or New England either.

Kaiser Toro
02-28-2008, 04:37 PM
One hour ago from the SF Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/28/SPMNVASGT.DTL)

The Raiders also are said to be in hot pursuit of Texans wide receiver and kick return Andre' Davis, who becomes an unrestricted free agent tonight. Davis, 27, signed a one-year deal with Houston last season and replaced the injured Andre Johnson as the Texans' starting wideout.

But Davis made his greatest impact on special teams. In the Dec. 30 regular season finale against the Jaguars, Davis scored two consecutive touchdowns on kick returns, for 97 and 104 yards, respectively.

mexican_texan
02-28-2008, 04:38 PM
I'm glad he re-signed at all, but I wonder how much money he got...

Drew_Smoke
02-28-2008, 04:40 PM
I am glad to hear it as well. I didn't like leaving him inactive at the beginning of '07. Thought all he needed was a chance.

I was right for once....woo hoo.

Goldensilence
02-28-2008, 04:44 PM
Valid questions - yes!! But I only grabbed a few quotes. Some were that he absolutely had no chance of making the roster whatsoever. Some of those same people thought that 67 y/o Keenan McCardell had a better shot of making the roster.

By the same token, I am not taking any credit for being right about Davis, but I did feel like a change of scenery would do him some good. He was pretty well thought of coming out of college (at least as a second rounder), but could never really get it going in Cleveland because of injury and really didnt see much time in Buffalo or New England either.

I totally forgot about Keenan.

Personally after the Eric Moulds signing i soured on Keenan making it. Davis looked better then the other options in TC. Either way right now i am pleased enough if i had a beer I'd toast ya :party:

Yankee_In_TX
02-28-2008, 04:46 PM
Awesome, happy days in Texans town :)

steds
02-28-2008, 05:05 PM
Whoop whoop!

Any idea how long he's signed for?

Buffi2
02-28-2008, 05:06 PM
'Tis a good day indeed. Happy to have ya' staying around, Andre! :heart: :victory:

ATXtexanfan
02-28-2008, 05:13 PM
a nice start to free agency

HOU-TEX
02-28-2008, 05:16 PM
This snippet from the article kinda caught me off guard. I'm not sure if it was true or not, but still, that's alot of jack. :thinking:

Davis, 28, wanted to return to the Texans rather than accept another offer, including a deal from Oakland that would average $5 million a year. Other teams were going to pursue Davis, too, including the Tennessee Titans.

Buffi2
02-28-2008, 05:18 PM
And the price is.....McGuire and Smith reached an agreement in principle today on a four-year, $16 million contract for Davis,

Davis, 28, wanted to return to the Texans rather than accept another offer, including a deal from Oakland that would average $5 million a year. Other teams were going to pursue Davis, too, including the Tennessee Titans.

link (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5579250.html)

bigbrewster2000
02-28-2008, 05:22 PM
And the price is.....

link (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5579250.html)

it doesnt have the price in the link. It just says multi year multi million.

drewmar74
02-28-2008, 05:27 PM
Where are all those people that didn't even think Andre Davis would make the Texans roster last season....?!? :hmmm:

*stands up and raises hand*

Me, proving yet again why I'm not a GM.

Yankee_In_TX
02-28-2008, 05:27 PM
And the price is.....

link (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5579250.html)

If it happens the Texans offered him less than Oakland, I'm buying his jersey.

drewmar74
02-28-2008, 05:30 PM
If it happens the Texans offered him less than Oakland, I'm buying his jersey.

And fathering his children!





Wait.

No, that came out all wrong.

Yankee_In_TX
02-28-2008, 05:31 PM
No, that came out all wrong.

:gun:

(that's what she said)

Hardcore Texan
02-28-2008, 05:32 PM
If it happens the Texans offered him less than Oakland, I'm buying his jersey.

I agree, I might have to do the same, apparently he gave 1 mil per year to stay here. Might be a little insight to the players really getting on board with the coaching staff or he really doesn't want to be a Raider.

Either way, Thanks for staying AD! :texflag:

Yankee_In_TX
02-28-2008, 05:42 PM
.........and don't forget 2 returns in :30 of game clock!

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=271230034

JayCee
02-28-2008, 06:09 PM
Awesome!

any word on Demps?

wicked_wayz
02-28-2008, 06:15 PM
:fans:

Errant Hothy
02-28-2008, 06:24 PM
Texans | Team re-signs A. Davis
Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:09:25 -0800

ESPNews reports the Houston Texans re-signed WR Andre' Davis Thursday, Feb. 28, to a four-year deal. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

Tulip
02-28-2008, 06:36 PM
McClain's article is now re-edited to include the 4-year $16 million contract. I wonder why it disappeared and then re-appeared. Maybe it had something to do with browser cookies.

The Pencil Neck
02-28-2008, 06:43 PM
I heard he turned down the possibility of $5 mill a year to come back to us at $4.

That was on ESPN so take it with a grain of salt.

kiwitexansfan
02-28-2008, 06:46 PM
Looking at the figures on http://www.houstonprofootball.com/cap2008.html

Getting $4million a year would make him one of the top 10 paid players on the roster.... Or am I totally misunderstanding the contract? :thinking:

If I am not can I say I think we overpaid..... :gun:

TEXANS84
02-28-2008, 06:48 PM
POSTED 5:34 p.m. EST, February 28, 2008

DAVIS CASHES IN

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the new contract between the Texans and receiver Andre Davis is worth $16 million over four years, with guaranteed money close to $8 million.

We projected only (only?) $3 million in guaranteed money for Davis in our free-agency rankings for the receiver position.

If Davis is worth $8 million in guaranteed money, what in the heck will Randy Moss get? $27 million? $30 million?

Yikes.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Insideop
02-28-2008, 06:49 PM
This is the best news I've had all day! :yahoo: :wow: :jumpbanan :gotexans1

kiwitexansfan
02-28-2008, 06:50 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Colour me concerned about this turn of events.

Hardcore Texan
02-28-2008, 07:00 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

What is funny about their quote is they probably barely even pay attention to how valuable he is to us and how good of a year he had. They are prolly right about Moss, paying close attention to him, just out of touch with our Texans.

:texflag:

The1ApplePie
02-28-2008, 07:04 PM
So, the Texans won't spend money on LBs, RBs, or LT, but they will break the bank on a 3rd WR?

Man, Moss and Walker and going to get paid.

Double Barrel
02-28-2008, 07:13 PM
So, the Texans won't spend money on LBs, RBs, or LT, but they will break the bank on a 3rd WR?


The off-season is new. They said that LT and RB are top priorities, and I expect them to prove it in the draft and FA. We've already signed a proven line coach in Gibbs, and jettisoned some dead weight/cap space on the line. I'm giving them the benefit of optimism that they will address our needs.

b0ng
02-28-2008, 07:50 PM
The contract seems a little high, but as long as he isn't taking more than 3m of the cap I'm fine with it. He serves double duty in KR as well.

J-Russ
02-28-2008, 08:02 PM
edit, wrong thread.

TheRealJoker
02-28-2008, 08:21 PM
AD was our top FA to resign imo. He's way too valuable to let go. People are complaining about his contract comparing him to a 3rd WR and I think that is way off base. He SHINED this year in several roles:

1) 3rd WR/Premier deep threat

2) Special teams gunner

3) Kick Returner

He contributes to this team in a perceived backup role more than most starting WRs imo.

Hardcore Texan
02-28-2008, 08:24 PM
AD was our top FA to resign imo. He's way too valuable to let go. People are complaining about his contract comparing him to a 3rd WR and I think that is way off base. He SHINED this year in several roles:

1) 3rd WR/Premier deep threat

2) Special teams gunner

3) Kick Returner

He contributes to this team in a perceived backup role more than most starting WRs imo.

He was also the #2 WR while AJ was injured.

Yankee_In_TX
02-28-2008, 08:27 PM
.........and don't forget 2 returns in :30 of game clock!

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=271230034

Overpaid?!?!? Really? What's wrong with people...

Thorn
02-28-2008, 08:43 PM
I heard he turned down the possibility of $5 mill a year to come back to us at $4.

That was on ESPN so take it with a grain of salt.

Seeing as how I don't pay anyones salary here, I love it that he will be with us next year. I will leave it to those who do pay money for this stuff to make decesions.

In the meantime, yeah, I am happy as hell he is on our side this coming season.

dalemurphy
02-28-2008, 09:01 PM
Looking at the figures on http://www.houstonprofootball.com/cap2008.html

Getting $4million a year would make him one of the top 10 paid players on the roster.... Or am I totally misunderstanding the contract? :thinking:

If I am not can I say I think we overpaid..... :gun:



8 million of guaranteed money for a guy in his 20s isn't that much. I was certainly hopeful that we could get him on the cheap, however, my guess that his cap number is at or under $3 million for this year and next year. So, he only sees the about half the contract if he doesn't produce... By the way, we are getting him signed for what should be the prime of his career.

kiwitexansfan
02-28-2008, 09:22 PM
8 million of guaranteed money for a guy in his 20s isn't that much. I was certainly hopeful that we could get him on the cheap, however, my guess that his cap number is at or under $3 million for this year and next year. So, he only sees the about half the contract if he doesn't produce... By the way, we are getting him signed for what should be the prime of his career.

My main issue is that he is being paid more than most of the guys on the team for a KR....

dalemurphy
02-28-2008, 09:25 PM
My main issue is that he is being paid more than most of the guys on the team for a KR....


My concern is that he was a better player than most of the guys on the team last year. While he may essentially be a third receiver, he's the only guy that can replace AJ's explosiveness and production if he gets injured again. We just don't know about JJones yet.

Maddict5
02-28-2008, 09:43 PM
just saw that justin gage signed a 4 yr, 14 m contract with the tacks... i feel better :)

Errant Hothy
02-28-2008, 09:44 PM
just saw that justin gage signed a 4 yr, 14 m contract with the tacks... i feel better :)

Looks like WRs are going to get paid this offseason.:thinking:

michaelm
02-28-2008, 09:45 PM
Looks like WRs are going to get paid this offseason.:thinking:

Thin FA pool at the position...

Joe Texan
02-28-2008, 09:59 PM
Awesome and he says he wants to be A Texan for Life along with Kalu

Texans Horror
02-28-2008, 10:11 PM
Great news. He was definitely one of the players I was hoping the Texans would lock up...

Polo
02-28-2008, 10:16 PM
Glad the Texans kept him, but honestly I don't know whether or not they overpaid him...

Giving Andre his money is a good thing...Not only for him, but also in our pursuit of future free agents that are looking for a team that will look out for them...

NitroGSXR
02-28-2008, 10:59 PM
Looking at the figures on http://www.houstonprofootball.com/cap2008.html

Getting $4million a year would make him one of the top 10 paid players on the roster.... Or am I totally misunderstanding the contract? :thinking:


Yeah. Kinda. I thought about this a little bit after reading your post. It really makes a difference in how much of a bonus he received which will thereby lower his base salary. He's not making 4 million per year in an annual salary (although I don't know that for sure. Details have been disclosed as far as I'm concerned.). He won't be in the top ten with annual salaries. I don't think? I don't know for sure but that's my thinking with what little I know.

PHAROAH
02-29-2008, 12:15 AM
We over spent for this Guy 4 years 16 million for a guy that we picked up off the scrap heap.

AnthonyE
02-29-2008, 12:37 AM
We over spent for this Guy 4 years 16 million for a guy that we picked up off the scrap heap.

Yeah but then again, we didn't pay the guy at all for the season he had last year. Balances out, imo.

nunusguy
02-29-2008, 08:52 AM
Forget the 16M, tfhe meaningful number is 8M because that's the guaranteed
amount and I dunno there Mr. GM Rick ? That's a lot of coin for a backup WR
who will be 30 next year ? I dunno ?

threetoedpete
02-29-2008, 08:57 AM
Forget the 16M, tfhe meaningful number is 8M because that's the guaranteed
amount and I dunno there Mr. GM Rick ? That's a lot of coin for a backup WR
who will be 30 next year ? I dunno ?

Well we're due some luck for sure. The last time we did this we lost Dominic Davis-Williams on his first snap in summer camp. I have a great deal of trouble with the twent first century numbers also...At least we didn't sign Maddox to a 50 million dollar deal. We don't have a sixty million dollar guard yet.

As long as he doesn't get hurt...it was a good deal.

Wolfiegrrl
02-29-2008, 08:59 AM
I don't feel that the Texans overpaid on this one. Davis is a clean cut guy, doesn't get into trouble, works hard, is a game changer on special teams, and can fill in when our #1 WR is out for half the year. I really think the $8 million guaranteed money was to ensure he would stay here. Out of a 4 year $16 million deal... that makes his annual salary about $2million. Wise choice if you ask me.

HOU-TEX
02-29-2008, 10:12 AM
I don't mind what he's going to get paid. As long as he doesn't Shaun Alexander now that he's "gettin paid". :cool:

Dallas_Texan
02-29-2008, 05:32 PM
Andre was offered 5MM/year from Oakland, but wanted to stay in Houston!! :texflag: :texflag: :texflag: :texflag: :texflag:

dtran04
02-29-2008, 05:34 PM
Considering Gage got 4 yrs and 16 Mil w/ the Titans, the deal was pretty good.

TexanAddict
02-29-2008, 06:49 PM
Ernest Wilford:
6-4 218 29
2007 - 45 Rec 518 Yds 11.5 Avg 3 TD
Contract - 4 yrs, $13 million, $6 million guaranteed
Reported Contract (http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story;jsessionid=885CAB5D3019BB040A8B932831C50B38? id=09000d5d806f3718&template=with-video&confirm=true)

Jerry Porter
6-2 220 29
2007 - 44 Rec 705 Yds 16 Avg 6 TD
Contract - 6 yrs, $30 million, $10 million guaranteed
Reported Contract (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=830&line=113382&spln=1)

Justin Gage
6-4 212 27
2007 - 55 Rec 755 Yds 13.6 Avg 2 TD
Contract - 4 yrs, $14 million, $6.5 million guaranteed
Reported Contract (http://www.rotowire.com/roto_to_gnews.htm?ID=142427&sport=nfl)

Andre Davis
6-1 195 28
2007 - 33 Rec 583 Yds 17.7 Avg 3 TD
Contract - 4 yrs, $16 million, $8 million guaranteed

Add to that the fact that Bernard Berrian is hoping to sign a deal that pays him $24.5 million in the first 3 years of the contract (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/816974,CST-SPT-bear28.article). Put in perspective, the deal doesn't seem to be too bad. It looks like it is at least reflecting near market value.

TexanAddict
03-01-2008, 07:41 PM
Just to add to my last post:

Bernard Berrian
6-1 185 27
2007 - 71 Rec 951 Yds 13.4 Avg 5 TD
Contract - 6 yrs, $42 million, $16 million guaranteed
Reported Contract (http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story;jsessionid=A4678428942DD70395A097A10481BB1E? id=09000d5d806f9d76&template=with-video&confirm=true)

Donte Stallworth
6-0 200 27
2007 - 46 Rec 697 Yds 15.2 Avg 3 TD
Contract - 7 yrs, $35 million, $10 million guaranteed
Reported Contract (http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/03/reports_browns_sign_donte_stal.html)

Thorn
03-01-2008, 07:45 PM
It's good AD is staying with us. Very good. At least this is something we all can agree on.

I am looking forward to some more kickoff returns and long passes for TDs next year from him. Good show, Texans.

gary
03-01-2008, 07:46 PM
Alright AD.

RipTraxx
03-01-2008, 09:41 PM
I like Davis....but yes we overpaid......

IMO its more the playcalling that gave him the yards. When the better Andre went down, Kevin Walter had produced nicely and had that MONSTER game w/ 160 yards.........

NO ONE SAW THAT COMING.

So Andre had two KR for TD against a SECOND STRING Jaguar team, The catch against the titans. And i do remember a one handed grab somewhere.

Pair that with a mere 500 yards and 3td's and this JUSTIFIES a 8 mil in garaunteed???????????

This is ALMOST as bad as that REEVES deal. Gettin angy just thinkin about that one.

Errant Hothy
03-01-2008, 09:47 PM
I like Davis....but yes we overpaid......

IMO its more the playcalling that gave him the yards. When the better Andre went down, Kevin Walter had produced nicely and had that MONSTER game w/ 160 yards.........

NO ONE SAW THAT COMING.

So Andre had two KR for TD against a SECOND STRING Jaguar team, The catch against the titans. And i do remember a one handed grab somewhere.

Pair that with a mere 500 yards and 3td's and this JUSTIFIES a 8 mil in garaunteed???????????

This is ALMOST as bad as that REEVES deal. Gettin angy just thinkin about that one.

How can you say we overpaid for Davis when Berrian got 16M guaranteed, and Stallworth got 10M? I think we are seeing the market for WRs getting set higher then we intially thought it would.

Also there is no point getting worked up over the Reeves contract till we know the guaranteed amount.

RipTraxx
03-01-2008, 09:52 PM
How can you say we overpaid for Davis when Berrian got 16M guaranteed, and Stallworth got 10M? I think we are seeing the market for WRs getting set higher then we intially thought it would.

Also there is no point getting worked up over the Reeves contract till we know the guaranteed amount.


Agreed on the reeves thing. I didnt take in account the garaunteed.

But i would like to think BOTH Berrian and Stallworth are a class above Davis......hence the more money.

Thorn
03-01-2008, 09:54 PM
I think AD is worth the money.

Not my money, when I have to pay rent, buy gas and food, but he is certainly worth someone else's money.

Errant Hothy
03-01-2008, 09:55 PM
Agreed on the reeves thing. I didnt take in account the garaunteed.

But i would like to think BOTH Berrian and Stallworth are a class above Davis......hence the more money.

Berrian had 5 TDs, Stallworth and AD each had 3. AD averges more ypc then either Berrian and Stallworth. And the icing on the cake AD is an elite kick returner, I don't think either of the other 2 return kicks at all.

GuerillaBlack
03-01-2008, 09:57 PM
Berrian had 5 TDs, Stallworth and AD each had 3. AD averges more ypc then either Berrian and Stallworth. And the icing on the cake AD is an elite kick returner, I don't think either of the other 2 return kicks at all.
They don't. AD is also just as good of a deep threat as Stallworth.

Thorn
03-01-2008, 09:58 PM
It's good we signed AD. He's worth it.

RipTraxx
03-01-2008, 10:08 PM
So where does everyone see him playing. the #2 or the slot reciever?

Then were do Kevin and Jacoby go?

TexanAddict
03-01-2008, 10:28 PM
Agreed on the reeves thing. I didnt take in account the garaunteed.

But i would like to think BOTH Berrian and Stallworth are a class above Davis......hence the more money.

The question is whether you think he is better than Gage or Wilford, which I believe he is. Those guys got 6 and 6.5 million guaranteed, so Davis' 8 million isn't too far out of the ballpark.

RipTraxx
03-01-2008, 10:29 PM
The question is whether you think he is better than Gage or Wilford, which I believe he is. Those guys got 6 and 6.5 million guaranteed, so Davis' 8 million isn't too far out of the ballpark.

Thats true too, well put addict.

b0ng
03-01-2008, 10:56 PM
I like Davis....but yes we overpaid......

IMO its more the playcalling that gave him the yards. When the better Andre went down, Kevin Walter had produced nicely and had that MONSTER game w/ 160 yards.........

NO ONE SAW THAT COMING.

So Andre had two KR for TD against a SECOND STRING Jaguar team, The catch against the titans. And i do remember a one handed grab somewhere.

Pair that with a mere 500 yards and 3td's and this JUSTIFIES a 8 mil in garaunteed???????????

This is ALMOST as bad as that REEVES deal. Gettin angy just thinkin about that one.


Good lord man, you probably shouldn't be a Texans fan as it's not for the faint of heart.

At least get some heart medicine or something I'm afraid you're going to just explode in a ball of rage right at your keyboard.

So where does everyone see him playing. the #2 or the slot reciever?

Then were do Kevin and Jacoby go?

I think KW will be WR2 and Davis will line up in the slot with Jones backing Davis up. If Johnson goes out, Davis will slide to WR1 and Jones will step into the slot.

ATXtexanfan
03-01-2008, 11:17 PM
So where does everyone see him playing. the #2 or the slot reciever?

Then were do Kevin and Jacoby go?

i think jacoby will bust the door open this year and be our #2wr this year, he has the ability to take a 5yd pass the distance, walter and davis don't

michaelm
03-01-2008, 11:22 PM
i think jacoby will bust the door open this year and be our #2wr this year, he has the ability to take a 5yd pass the distance, walter and davis don't

I don't understand how you can say Davis doesn't have the ability to take one all the way after his kick off return TDs...

RipTraxx
03-01-2008, 11:24 PM
i think jacoby will bust the door open this year and be our #2wr this year, he has the ability to take a 5yd pass the distance, walter and davis don't

He was all the rage in preseason. Everyone loved him. We reg. season came around it was all KW.

Guess thats why they call it preseason.

Giant Tiger
03-01-2008, 11:24 PM
It's good AD is staying with us. Very good. At least this is something we all can agree on.

I am looking forward to some more kickoff returns and long passes for TDs next year from him. Good show, Texans.

Well said :yahoo: :redtowel:

Errant Hothy
03-01-2008, 11:32 PM
He was all the rage in preseason. Everyone loved him. We reg. season came around it was all KW.

Guess thats why they call it preseason.

Got to agree with this. In the regular season it was AJ, KW and AD...then Jones. This is going to be an important regular session for Jacoby, he cannot afford a repeat of this season.

ATXtexanfan
03-01-2008, 11:49 PM
I don't understand how you can say Davis doesn't have the ability to take one all the way after his kick off return TDs...

davis is without a doubt a deep threat, he had a bunch of "amazing" catches downfield but i can't remember him making alot of short catches, jacoby's injury was devasting and hopefully he shook it in the offseasaon, isn't amazing how returning punts and kickoffs are 2 different things

RipTraxx
03-01-2008, 11:51 PM
Wasnt it his shoulder? Cant remember

ATXtexanfan
03-01-2008, 11:52 PM
Got to agree with this. In the regular season it was AJ, KW and AD...then Jones. This is going to be an important regular session for Jacoby, he cannot afford a repeat of this season.

i dont think he was ever injured in college, it has to be hard mentally to rebound from an injury when your coming from a small school to showing so much promise in the league

ATXtexanfan
03-01-2008, 11:54 PM
by the way, i'm hoping i didn't throw away a lot of money on that white jones jersey and i don't know how much on football cards

RipTraxx
03-01-2008, 11:54 PM
i dont think he was ever injured in college, it has to be hard mentally to rebound from an injury when your coming from a small school to showing so much promise in the league

He's seems to be a pretty confident kid from interviews and such. I think he'll be fine.