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TEXANS84
02-27-2008, 04:00 PM
Hey fellow Bullpen members, here is a letter we just recieved from Holly Schweitzer from the Texans on next season's future plan for the Bullpen.

Dear Bull Pen Members,



We want to thank you for your enthusiasm and support for the Texans. You add to the overall excitement and atmosphere on game days, providing the team with an exciting Home Field Advantage. Going forward we would like to make the Bull Pen even louder and more spirited and we will need your help to accomplish this. We will be asking for your feedback regarding your vision for the Bull Pen. During the off season we are working on creating a new logo, developing Bull Pen merchandise, launching a Bull Pen webpage and much more.



We encourage fans in the Bull Pen to have a great time and show true Texans spirit and pride, but to also be respectful and mindful of others. During the inception of the Bull Pen we have encouraged you to stand throughout the entire game, sing, and cheer and otherwise support the team in an enthusiastic manner and therefore this section may not be a good fit for children or families. If you prefer to sit or watch the game in another section please contact our Ticket Office at 866.GOTEXANS (866.468.3926) and a Customer Services Representative will be more than happy to assist you in attempting to relocate your seats. If you decide to sell or give away your tickets we encourage you to find a Texans fan. If you sell your seats for most home games we would like to relocate you to a general seating section. We would love to look at the Bull Pen and see the Home Field Advantage. If we notice disruptive behavior within the Bull Pen we will give a warning and then you could possibly lose your season tickets.



We are very excited about this year and our vision for the Bull Pen. We will be corresponding with you frequently and continue to update you on all the Bull Pen news. If you have any questions or suggestions please feel free to contact me at 832-667-2039 or hschweitzer@houstontexans.com. We look forward to working with you and making 2008 exceptionally great!

Please leave comments guys on what you feel will make the Bullpen even better. I'm going to email her a link to this section so that she can see all of our responses.

My #1 complaint- Corporate seating/ticket brokers-selling opposing seats to visiting team fans and the corporate people only coming down for a quarter and then vacating their seats. I can name a few seat locations where I see different people every game, or no people at all.

Texan_Bill
02-27-2008, 04:15 PM
we have encouraged you to stand throughout the entire game, sing, and cheer and otherwise support the team in an enthusiastic manner and therefore this section may not be a good fit for children or families. If you prefer to sit or watch the game in another section please contact our Ticket Office at 866.GOTEXANS

This should be copied and taped to every seat owned by Ticketmaster and/or other corporate seats...

SheTexan
02-27-2008, 04:25 PM
Thats funny Bill. That was the first suggestion I thought of when I read the letter, and will definitely be the first suggestion I send to the events coordinator. Until they do something about the AMOUNT of corp and ticketmaster seats, nothing will change. Nothing would thrill me more than to be surrounded by hardcore TEXAN fans. BUT, this has been going on for almost 7 years now, so, I guess we will see if the TEXANS are truly serious about helping us give the Bullpen the home field advantage. IMHO, it's up to THEM!!

Gma

Double Barrel
02-27-2008, 04:40 PM
I'd like to hang out in the Bull Pen, if even just for a game. But those brokers want too much dern money. I'm a working man and have a tough enough time paying face value of my goat herder seats!

Good luck, y'all! It is good to see the Texans being pro-active about it. Hopefully it'll translate to the regular season.

texanmojo
02-27-2008, 05:29 PM
I'm a working man and have a tough enough time paying face value of my goat herder seats!

Nothing wrong with those 'goat herder' seats...I've had mine since the beginning and love sitting in the nose bleeds...

Texan_Bill
02-27-2008, 05:43 PM
We have a lot less ramps to negotiate.... :splits:

Double Barrel
02-27-2008, 06:03 PM
Nothing wrong with those 'goat herder' seats...I've had mine since the beginning and love sitting in the nose bleeds...

I never said anything was wrong with them. Goat herders unite! :cowboy1:

I just wouldn't mind hanging out with our Bull Pen friends sometime.

TEXANS84
02-27-2008, 06:26 PM
I fully believe that this issue needs to be addressed with signage and better education for the staff working in that area:

http://texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45694&highlight=Overalls

Texan_Bill
02-27-2008, 06:29 PM
I fully believe that this issue needs to be addressed with signage and better education for the staff working in that area:

http://texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45694&highlight=Overalls

Did you forward that link to the email address shown in your first post???.. The Overalls story is a perfect example of some of the issues that should be addressed...

Hardcore Texan
02-27-2008, 07:51 PM
Glad to see the Texans wanting to improve the BullPen. I am a new PSL holder in 115, so I am almost in the Bull Pen, hey maybe that should be my sig? I am going to have to crow surf my way over this year.

Da_General
02-27-2008, 08:44 PM
Move the BPPB back to the Bull Pen, only not hidden in the back. Or maybe in a neighboring section closer to the rail where we can still be seen and they can get some microphones for our 2 songs per game. I was told by Scott MacKerron that this is the main reason we were moved.

The sideline seats have their perks, but I miss being up there in the thick of all the fun.

BTW, I do NOT speak for the whole BPPB, just little ole' me. I probably shouldn't complain, because I'd never be able to go to games at all if it weren't for the BPPB.

hollywood_texan
02-27-2008, 08:50 PM
I'd like to hang out in the Bull Pen, if even just for a game. But those brokers want too much dern money. I'm a working man and have a tough enough time paying face value of my goat herder seats!

Good luck, y'all! It is good to see the Texans being pro-active about it. Hopefully it'll translate to the regular season.

You mean no one is willing to hook you up to sit in the Bull Pen?

Now that seems a little sad...

Overalls
02-27-2008, 09:04 PM
I fully believe that this issue needs to be addressed with signage and better education for the staff working in that area:

http://texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45694&highlight=Overalls

To me it looks like they MAY have gotten the message. To me if you are going to promote a section to be the place for the rowdy fans you have to let them be a little more "enthusiatic" If my getting thrown out of the Bull Pen, and all the stir it caused with my friends, means they are actually going to put a greater emphasis on the Bull Pen being a special place like the Dawg Pound or the Black Hole I am glad it happened. I know alot of Y'all had my back. Thanks for that.

Buffi2
02-28-2008, 08:43 AM
To me it looks like they MAY have gotten the message.

Seems to me the fans just won this little battle.:splits: Good for us! And good for the Texans for listening. Now it is up to them to implement the ideas and the fans will have won the war.

Congratulations, Bull Pen - so far, so good. A little late in coming, but we just might have a real, bonafide Bull Pen this year!

It is really nice to know that the fans can make a difference when we get together and bombard the Texans with emails/phone calls. I just love happy endings. So, Texan Office - you go and make this a veritable Disney movie.:texflag:

hobie
02-28-2008, 11:01 AM
You mean no one is willing to hook you up to sit in the Bull Pen?

Now that seems a little sad...

If you knew DB, you would understand why !!

texanmojo
02-28-2008, 01:57 PM
We have a lot less ramps to negotiate.... :splits:


Point well taken...helps me work off some of that beer from the tailgate...and gives me more time to have another while I am getting to my seat! :)

Texan_Bill
02-28-2008, 02:15 PM
Point well taken...helps me work off some of that beer from the tailgate...and gives me more time to have another while I am getting to my seat! :)

Touche'!!! :)

Double Barrel
02-28-2008, 02:49 PM
We have a lot less ramps to negotiate.... :splits:


One word, bro': escalators!

Take the emergency stairs down, and I probably get out of the stadium quicker than you do. :howdy:

SheTexan
02-28-2008, 04:24 PM
I'd like to hang out in the Bull Pen, if even just for a game. But those brokers want too much dern money. I'm a working man and have a tough enough time paying face value of my goat herder seats!

Good luck, y'all! It is good to see the Texans being pro-active about it. Hopefully it'll translate to the regular season.

It's a done deal DB. After the sch comes out, we'll work on a game that will bring your happy goat herder butt right on down to the front of the bullpen. I love sharing my seats with diehard Texan fans! Stay tuned!!:)

Texan_Bill
02-28-2008, 04:40 PM
It's a done deal DB. After the sch comes out, we'll work on a game that will bring your happy goat herder butt right on down to the front of the bullpen. I love sharing my seats with diehard Texan fans! Stay tuned!!:)

Funny!! :)

Yankee_In_TX
02-28-2008, 04:49 PM
One word, bro': escalators!

Take the emergency stairs down, and I probably get out of the stadium quicker than you do. :howdy:

I take the stairs down too, thanks to BPA :)

Double Barrel
02-28-2008, 04:52 PM
It's a done deal DB. After the sch comes out, we'll work on a game that will bring your happy goat herder butt right on down to the front of the bullpen. I love sharing my seats with diehard Texan fans! Stay tuned!!:)

It would be an honor, my friend! :cowboy1:

Texan_Bill
02-28-2008, 04:55 PM
I take the stairs down too, thanks to BPA :)

I walked those steps way too many times in the year and a half prior to the stadium opening up. I like the ramps. I lean forward, put one foot in front of the other, and then momentum and gravity do all the work...

Kaiser Toro
02-28-2008, 04:56 PM
Sounds like the second installment of Borat: Goatherders in Paradise :specnatz:

Tedc
02-29-2008, 06:48 AM
It's a done deal DB. After the sch comes out, we'll work on a game that will bring your happy goat herder butt right on down to the front of the bullpen. I love sharing my seats with diehard Texan fans! Stay tuned!!:)

That is a great plan. I pondered that sometime last year but I didn't have enough for his group. Check with me and I may be able to kick in two more for the TDC. It would be good to have them visit us down there.

Tedc
02-29-2008, 07:20 AM
That is a great plan. I pondered that sometime last year but I didn't have enough for his group. Check with me and I may be able to kick in two more for the TDC. It would be good to have them visit us down there.http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/Tedc/TDCandTedc.jpg

Actually, I wonder if the Bull Pen can handle that many "hardheaded" fans in one area at a time.

disaacks3
02-29-2008, 10:34 AM
Actually, I wonder if the Bull Pen can handle that many "hardheaded" fans in one area at a time.
Don't worry Ted, the rest of us are just as hard-headed, we just don't wear the extra hardware! :cool:

Double Barrel
02-29-2008, 11:21 AM
That is a great plan. I pondered that sometime last year but I didn't have enough for his group. Check with me and I may be able to kick in two more for the TDC. It would be good to have them visit us down there.

Man, y'all rock! Let us know what to do and who to pay, because that'll be a blast. I'm sure we'll be tailgating with the Blue Crew that game, too! :thumbup

SheTexan
02-29-2008, 03:52 PM
Man, y'all rock! Let us know what to do and who to pay, because that'll be a blast. I'm sure we'll be tailgating with the Blue Crew that game, too! :thumbup

DB. Teds seats are right next to mine, so, you guys will be able to stay together. Section 116, row C

Yankee_In_TX
02-29-2008, 04:04 PM
And mine the row behind theirs. So I am sure we can coordinate something :)

texanmojo
02-29-2008, 04:20 PM
Man, y'all rock! Let us know what to do and who to pay, because that'll be a blast. I'm sure we'll be tailgating with the Blue Crew that game, too! :thumbup

Now DB...a visit to the Blue Crew I could understand...but are you going to abandon your Yellow Lotters for an entire tailgate? I've heard that is considered a crime in many states... :)

Double Barrel
02-29-2008, 04:42 PM
DB. Teds seats are right next to mine, so, you guys will be able to stay together. Section 116, row C

Sweet! We plan to leave our voices in the stadium, as always. :redtowel: :texflag:

Now DB...a visit to the Blue Crew I could understand...but are you going to abandon your Yellow Lotters for an entire tailgate? I've heard that is considered a crime in many states... :)

We'll be good Yellow Lot ambassadors. :shades:

And besides, we have to enjoy the Blue Crew at their present location while we can, since they might end up with us if the parking prices keep increasing!

Your brothers on grass,

The TDC :fans:

Texan_Bill
02-29-2008, 04:44 PM
Sweet! We plan to leave our voices in the stadium, as always. :redtowel: :texflag:



We'll be good Yellow Lot ambassadors. :shades:

And besides, we have to enjoy the Blue Crew at their present location while we can, since they might end up with us if the parking prices keep increasing!

Your brothers on grass,

The TDC :fans:

Careful being on grass..... :shades:

The other part about moving out of Plat. Lot may be true. A very, very sore subject for a lot of us...

SheTexan
02-29-2008, 05:43 PM
Careful being on grass..... :shades:

The other part about moving out of Plat. Lot may be true. A very, very sore subject for a lot of us...

Maybe we ALL should just take over the old Astroworld space and have one big huge tailgating party!

TxDavid
02-29-2008, 06:13 PM
The other part about moving out of Plat. Lot may be true. A very, very sore subject for a lot of us...

I am seriously considering moving to Blue.

Bull Pen 1
02-29-2008, 06:32 PM
I am seriously considering moving to Blue.

Ley me know TXDavid, I have an extra Blue Parking Pass.

TxDavid
02-29-2008, 06:43 PM
Ley me know TXDavid, I have an extra Blue Parking Pass.

LOL...me too....Picked it up last year...:whistle:

Yankee_In_TX
02-29-2008, 06:55 PM
Ehhh, I don't think I can get up any earlier than I already do. I'll pay the extra $100 or $50 (how much ever more we pay).

Nor do I have a desire to have to fight for tailgating room....

TxDavid
02-29-2008, 07:02 PM
Ehhh, I don't think I can get up any earlier than I already do. I'll pay the extra $100 or $50 (how much ever more we pay).

Nor do I have a desire to have to fight for tailgating room....

Add those two together....it's $150 extra....

Tedc
02-29-2008, 07:11 PM
Add those two together....it's $150 extra....


Worth every penny...BUT NOT MUCH MORE, TEXAN'S MANAGEMENT!!!!

Texans_Chick
02-29-2008, 07:11 PM
Ehhh, I don't think I can get up any earlier than I already do. I'll pay the extra $100 or $50 (how much ever more we pay).

Nor do I have a desire to have to fight for tailgating room....

It would be weird and wrong for no Blue Crew in that corner.

Yankee_In_TX
02-29-2008, 07:16 PM
Blue is only $250?!?!


BTW, I don't want you to go, but if you do...... I might be interested in your parking PSL.

BullPenPhotos
02-29-2008, 09:58 PM
Ehhh, I don't think I can get up any earlier than I already do. I'll pay the extra $100 or $50 (how much ever more we pay).

Nor do I have a desire to have to fight for tailgating room....

I agree...If there is anyone from our corner that is thinking of leaving...

Get with us first to see if we can help keep things in our corner....

Joe Texan
02-29-2008, 10:39 PM
Ditto what these guys are talking about.

We need to keep the Blue Crew, Blue Crew. I know some people that will take a spot if someone gives one up.

SheTexan
03-01-2008, 06:42 AM
Staying put, this year anyway!

Double Barrel
03-01-2008, 12:27 PM
I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes with my casual remarks. I'd hate to see the Blue Crew move, as well. But, I can't help but wonder if the Texans FO wants to cater to the corporate crowd and push the DIY (do it yourself) folks out to the perimeters. As mentioned before, it seems like the FO wants the platinum lot to be for the 11:45 arrivals, so they've got their assigned parking and all that jazz.

But hey, they listened to the fans about Bull Pen policy, as many of us put our letters of protest with you. So maybe we can do the same for the Blue Crew if they try to price you out of your historical spot. Some things just ain't right, and keeping football accessible to the little people should be something they never lose sight of in the end. Blue collar football fans has always been what this city is about. Us goat herders/yellow lot folks have your backs, too. I know you'd do the same for us if the show was on the other foot (unless it was hobie's shoe, since his high heels are custom made for his teeny-tiny feet).

Obviously, things won't be changing anytime soon, so let's just have fun one season at a time. :) :texflag:

Texans_Chick
03-01-2008, 01:56 PM
I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes with my casual remarks. I'd hate to see the Blue Crew move, as well. But, I can't help but wonder if the Texans FO wants to cater to the corporate crowd and push the DIY (do it yourself) folks out to the perimeters. As mentioned before, it seems like the FO wants the platinum lot to be for the 11:45 arrivals, so they've got their assigned parking and all that jazz.

But hey, they listened to the fans about Bull Pen policy, as many of us put our letters of protest with you. So maybe we can do the same for the Blue Crew if they try to price you out of your historical spot. Some things just ain't right, and keeping football accessible to the little people should be something they never lose sight of in the end. Blue collar football fans has always been what this city is about. Us goat herders/yellow lot folks have your backs, too. I know you'd do the same for us if the show was on the other foot (unless it was hobie's shoe, since his high heels are custom made for his teeny-tiny feet).

Obviously, things won't be changing anytime soon, so let's just have fun one season at a time. :) :texflag:


I think it is supply and demand. I think there are people who want platinum but couldn't get in. If they raise the price, then it may free it up for those willing to pay the price and make more money.

But that would be bad for the character of that lot. I do think that people should politely email fanfeedback about the price increase at platinum. Those of us who enjoy it won't enjoy it so much if the fun people leave because it is way more than the other lots.

Yankee_In_TX
03-02-2008, 02:54 PM
I think it is supply and demand. I think there are people who want platinum but couldn't get in. If they raise the price, then it may free it up for those willing to pay the price and make more money.


That's probably the nail on the head. It's probably just hard for people to believe, as the vast majority of Platinum parkers don't arrive until 10:30 or later. While we see a mostly empty lot for most of the morning, I think it's that ability to roll in just before kickoff that makes the lot worth the extra money to people.

SheTexan
03-02-2008, 03:28 PM
I think what TC and Yank said is very true, but, I don't understand why they can't move their elite parkers over to red, or Teal, and shuttle them over if they are to lazy to walk, and want to get there 10 min before the friggin game starts! There are other options than running a diehard fanbase out of the space they have been in since the beginning. It really ticks me off!!

DB! You are absolutely correct. You have our backs, and we will have yours!! There is power in numbers and I do believe the FO will listen, IF we all stand together, and give them legit, workable alternatives. Besides, there are areas in blue and orange that are much more desirable than the far corners of platinum. Designated parking can be set up anywhere they choose, they don't have to price us out of our corner. JMO!!

Yankee_In_TX
03-02-2008, 03:30 PM
Well GMA, think their choices were to put Platinum in Red or Blue to be next to the stadium, and well..... The rest is history...

aj.
03-02-2008, 04:30 PM
There is power in numbers and I do believe the FO will listen, IF we all stand together, and give them legit, workable alternatives.
The irony of it all is that the Silver...err Platinum Lot was created because of a bunch of fans banding together in a similar manner. As you may recall, several of us from the '05 edition of the Blue Crew were actively involved in the petition to the front office for reserved spaces like some of us had seen at Denver and other places. Before that, I recall how everyone was fed up with the chaos of the lineup on Kirby and the fight for 'our' parking spaces every week. Hence the Cause of '05.

They gave us our reserved spaces all right - along with a 75% price increase, essentially killing the tailgate atmosphere in the lot. I think most of us were prepared for a $50 increase in parking that year - not $150. Talk about a great idea gone bad. Contact JS now and he'll probably tell you to make up your mind -- to which I'd say 'you didn't have to double the price of parking in that lot." They were listening to us, but not for the reason we thought they were listening. 'Be careful what you ask for' comes to mind.

I left Platinum in part because of the price increase, now with Blue up to $250, I gave up one of my two passes ($400 is bad enough but no way I'll pay $500 to park). I may move back to Plat, just to keep my parking cost the same as it was last year.

From my experience in Platinum, Yellow and Blue, Platinum is by far the easiest lot to get in and out. That along with the proximity and the reserved spaces make it very marketable - just not to average joes and janes who like to tailgate in larger groups. It's targeting folks who want a reserved spot close to the stadium - a spot that you can leisurely drive to at 10:30 for a noon start.

I'm glad the Bullpen thing looks like it's getting worked out. Hopefully in the near future, the rest of the lower bowl will be standing more than sitting ....

Yankee_In_TX
03-02-2008, 07:12 PM
Before that, I recall how everyone was fed up with the chaos of the lineup on Kirby and the fight for 'our' parking spaces every week. Hence the Cause of '05.


Glad I never had to experience that, nor do I want to.

*lines up at blood bank* :aggressive:

BullPenPhotos
03-02-2008, 10:04 PM
That's probably the nail on the head. It's probably just hard for people to believe, as the vast majority of Platinum parkers don't arrive until 10:30 or later. While we see a mostly empty lot for most of the morning, I think it's that ability to roll in just before kickoff that makes the lot worth the extra money to people.

This is why I think we need to start a campaign to get Platinum turned into the best tailgating lot.

To do this I think we need to get the Platinum lot away from the people that want to show up at 11:30-12:30 and just have a spot up close. So we need to try and get them to have the Platinum lot stay with the opening 5 hours before the game...But close the gates 1 to 1 1/2 hours before the game starts.
This would get all of the people that want the close spots out...And allow the people that want to get in an hour earlier the chance to get into this lot.

For the past 2 years I can't think of a time that I haven't pulled into my spot in the corner of the Platinum lot at 7:00ish and seen at least 20-30 cars lined up (that have probably been there for 30-40 minutes) to get into the Blue lot. I would guess that some of those people would like to know that they didn't have to get there before 7:00am to get the spot they want.

Yankee_In_TX
03-03-2008, 09:46 AM
Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE for that. But, devil's advocate..... I think part of us getting a) a lot that opens at 7 AM and b) assigned spaces is supported by the Texans being able to sell a high % of the PSL's.

So..... Unless we convince our tailgating brethren they should pony up, we're being supported by all the people who roll in late...

Texan_Bill
03-03-2008, 09:51 AM
How many spaces do we take up in the Platinum Lot?? How many total spaces are there in the Platinumn Lot??

Since we probably dont take up 5% of the total lot, I doubt they care whether we stay or go... They probably figure if we pony up fine - if not those spots will be sold anyway, either for the season or per game....

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Yankee, empty your PM box.... NFL-Brit????

Yankee_In_TX
03-03-2008, 10:35 AM
I found it, thanks Bill.

nflnutswife
03-03-2008, 10:56 AM
Wow, good for you Bull Penners. I enjoy from the dark side the antics that come from the Bull Pen region, and feel welcome when I take a bit of the 3rd quarter to visit you guys.

I think we all should take a game or two out of the season and enjoy the company and tailgates from each of the lots that we all call home.:fans:

aj.
03-03-2008, 12:45 PM
How many total spaces are there in the Platinumn Lot??


787
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x $400 = $314,800.

Look at it this way. All the Platinum parking revenue for an entire season is about the same as a Matt Schaub game check. See... it's really not that bad.

Texan_Bill
03-03-2008, 12:54 PM
787
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x $400 = $314,800.

Look at it this way. All the Platinum parking revenue for an entire season is about the same as a Matt Schaub game check. See... it's really not that bad.

Thanks AJ...



So if we take up a total of about 40 spots, that equals about 5%... I don't think they would care if we stayed or moved on.. We'll see - I guess...

aj.
03-03-2008, 01:02 PM
I don't think they would care if we stayed or moved on.. We'll see - I guess...

I was quite evident to me when they raised the price from $200 to $350 a few years ago that they could care less who stayed or who moved on.

I've talked to the man in charge a couple times about this. They had no problem selling out the lot at $350 and they will have no problem selling it out at $400. When it became reserved, they created a different lot with a different market.

Yankee_In_TX
03-03-2008, 01:04 PM
Thanks AJ...



So if we take up a total of about 40 spots, that equals about 5%... I don't think they would care if we stayed or moved on.. We'll see - I guess...

So..... Here's my $.02... And I am not trying to step on people's feet.....

We pay an extra $150. With that, we get:
-an hour extra
-no need to line up at 6/assigned spot
-because of where our spots are, no need to buy more than one pass (because of the whited out areas and tent sharing, most only need 1 space)

So aren't you really getting you money's worth? If you were in another lot, you'd have to buy several extra passes to get as much space...?

Now, if you only have a few people, can arrive in the same car, and don't mind only using the space behind your car, I can see not wanting to pay the extra $.



*edit* However, if the price keeps rising at the rate of the last few years, then we do have a problem, and what we asked for actually phases us out.

Texan_Bill
03-03-2008, 01:11 PM
So..... Here's my $.02... And I am not trying to step on people's feet.....

We pay an extra $150. With that, we get:
-an hour extra
-no need to line up at 6/assigned spot
-because of where our spots are, no need to buy more than one pass (because of the whited out areas and tent sharing, most only need 1 space)

So aren't you really getting you money's worth? If you were in another lot, you'd have to buy several extra passes to get as much space...?

Now, if you only have a few people, can arrive in the same car, and don't mind only using the space behind your car, I can see not wanting to pay the extra $.

I hear what you're saying and I'm on board (at least for this season). I love the fact that we get those benefits that you mention. At the end of the day, it comes down to economics. If they continue to raise the parking rates - those spots will be out of some of our budgets.

I really, really hope we can all stay where we are for the next 40 years (if I can make it that long)..

Yankee_In_TX
03-03-2008, 01:15 PM
Yeah, I edited.... at some point (and the way they've been raising the prices, soon), price > benefits

hobie
03-03-2008, 01:27 PM
So..... Here's my $.02... And I am not trying to step on people's feet.....

We pay an extra $150. With that, we get:
-an hour extra
-no need to line up at 6/assigned spot
-because of where our spots are, no need to buy more than one pass (because of the whited out areas and tent sharing, most only need 1 space)

So aren't you really getting you money's worth? If you were in another lot, you'd have to buy several extra passes to get as much space...?

Now, if you only have a few people, can arrive in the same car, and don't mind only using the space behind your car, I can see not wanting to pay the extra $.



*edit* However, if the price keeps rising at the rate of the last few years, then we do have a problem, and what we asked for actually phases us out.

You guys have a pretty good set up over there, would hate for you to lose something that you have turned into your very own spot, it's like losing your home.
So aren't you really getting you money's worth? If you were in another lot, you'd have to buy several extra passes to get as much space...?

Well over in the Orange lot, there is a big piece of grassy area that you can back right up to and use, and it doesn't require any additional pass. For those of you who have been there, you know what I mean. We have alot of area, and I have to admit, we have enough area to put up 15x20 canopies and more. Would I pay extra to keep in the Orange, yes. For that reason alone.
I have sent my letter in to the Texans backing you Bullpen people as well. I think Tradition is important, and they need to make sure they keep to their original wants, to build a section as the likes of the Dawg Pound and the Black Hole. I hope everything works out for you guys !

Yankee_In_TX
03-03-2008, 01:38 PM
So here's a question open to all-lotters: what happens if you have a usual patch of grass/parking lot/etc. that you are 100% dependent upon to set up your tailgate on (as in, you don't have extra pases), and someone beats you to it?

Or is the answer failure is not an option, hence someone being in line before 7? Not having to worry about your whole tailgate going to crap because someone is running late is why I like Platinum.



But, (correct me if I am wrong) - 200% price increase over 3 years; I think people are concerned Platinum will be $800 by 2011.... Like club level seats.

texanmojo
03-03-2008, 02:26 PM
So here's a question open to all-lotters: what happens if you have a usual patch of grass/parking lot/etc. that you are 100% dependent upon to set up your tailgate on (as in, you don't have extra pases), and someone beats you to it?

Or is the answer failure is not an option, hence someone being in line before 7? Not having to worry about your whole tailgate going to crap because someone is running late is why I like Platinum.

We are typically in line before 7 AM...why? B/C we like it...it's a chance to get things prepped and to get ready for the day. We are in virtually the same space every time. It's never an issue for us.

Hardcore Texan
03-03-2008, 02:39 PM
So here's a question open to all-lotters: what happens if you have a usual patch of grass/parking lot/etc. that you are 100% dependent upon to set up your tailgate on (as in, you don't have extra pases), and someone beats you to it?

Or is the answer failure is not an option, hence someone being in line before 7? Not having to worry about your whole tailgate going to crap because someone is running late is why I like Platinum.



But, (correct me if I am wrong) - 200% price increase over 3 years; I think people are concerned Platinum will be $800 by 2011.... Like club level seats.

If you don't line up early like texanmojo said, you can all be pretty close to each other by getting there around the same time, pick who ever has a few vehicles next to each other and tote the little stuff over you need and join them. That is what I have done, getting there at the same time makes it easy but I have gotten there about 9:00 AM and had all my stuff in a little cooler and just carried my cooler over to the tailgate I was going to. It may not be as sweet as the deal you guys have obviously, but I don't think it is too hard to be within a couple of spots of each other and if you are diligent about it you can be next to each other every time. The late comers will have to come to you though.

Certain tailgates are permanent fixtures in the same spot over there like Mojo and Texanfan2002114.

hobie
03-03-2008, 04:13 PM
So here's a question open to all-lotters: what happens if you have a usual patch of grass/parking lot/etc. that you are 100% dependent upon to set up your tailgate on (as in, you don't have extra pases), and someone beats you to it?

Or is the answer failure is not an option, hence someone being in line before 7? Not having to worry about your whole tailgate going to crap because someone is running late is why I like Platinum.



But, (correct me if I am wrong) - 200% price increase over 3 years; I think people are concerned Platinum will be $800 by 2011.... Like club level seats.


Well other than 1 certain group we have pi** ng contests with about 1-2 times a year, honestly, we have lucked out, as we have been in the same place since day 1, and those around us have too, so therefore we have the same spot, and never have to worry about it. Kind of like an assigned spot in the area, we all respect each other and we all know who and what goes where. Then again most of us get there at 6:00am and don't have to worry about it. If it comes to it that someone beats us to it, well then we suck it up and take a different spot that doesn't crowd out the others who have spaces..Since we don't need a second pass, if we get beat out of our spot, that's just something we have to deal with, but the following game, it will be ours again !

Buffi2
03-03-2008, 08:35 PM
Blue lot - on the grass across from the Astrodome south entrance - nice spot with one little tree. I for sure don't line up at any 0700 - but I am usually in line by 7:45 latest. We haven't had a problem getting the spot we want since day 1 and the same folks are around us, for the most part. I've often thought it would be nice not to race for our place,so to speak - but haven't been willing to spend the extra bucks. I'd miss the little tree.:)

Yankee_In_TX
03-04-2008, 09:47 AM
That's the biggest thing keeping me out of other lots - I'd be picking between leaving all my friends at home or getting a good spot every week, lol.

hobie
03-04-2008, 10:41 AM
That's the biggest thing keeping me out of other lots - I'd be picking between leaving all my friends at home or getting a good spot every week, lol.

You can always try tailgating in the Orange and Yellow for a game...I am sure someone in yellow can get you a pass and I know I can get one in the Orange for you. Go set up there and just see which one you might like, test drive it if you will. Then see what develops in your lot, and when time comes, you will know which lot you would prefer to go to if you decided to move.

Kaiser Toro
03-04-2008, 10:55 AM
That's the biggest thing keeping me out of other lots - I'd be picking between leaving all my friends at home or getting a good spot every week, lol.

I also will have an extra yellow or blue every week. I usually eat one of them.

Yankee_In_TX
03-04-2008, 12:29 PM
Oh, if for any reason I need to bail on Platinum I know where we are going.

BUT, in the mean time, I am saying if I had to leave Platinum "my" tailgate (my portion of the Blue Crew) would cease to exist, because the people who ride with me would be unwilling to wake up early enough and/or buy an extra 4 spots for another lot for our gear. And we'd have to join on with another tailgate - but I like having our own tent, cornhole, grill and menu, etc. :)

So that's what I meant.

I hope price stay steady enough that more people don't jump ship.

Texan_Bill
03-04-2008, 01:12 PM
Yankee loves him some cornhole!!! :whip:

Yankee_In_TX
03-04-2008, 01:18 PM
Bill got drunk and cornholed, I think there's pictures some where.

Specnatz
03-04-2008, 01:36 PM
Bill got drunk and cornholed, I think there's pictures some where.

Bill drunk at a tailgate ............ Hogwash, that never happened.

Texan_Lee
04-24-2008, 11:17 PM
Bill drunk at a tailgate ............ Hogwash, that never happened.

Watch out for Lightning...

Texan_Lee
04-24-2008, 11:26 PM
Well, this is the first I have heard about this letter, and I think it is a good thing to have someone who is interested in working with us BP members... not sure how long it will last, but so far it sounds great.

I (of course) am curious about the BP website... we will see what happens, I'm just glad we have such a large fan base, with Andy taking pics for us and also being one of the last remaining 2 or 3 "original" fan sites since the start of the Texans... and I am bringing something new to our site this season for those who are unable to join us for gamedays in Houston... I hope to have a test this weekend for Draft Day.

Texan_Lee
04-24-2008, 11:27 PM
I agree...If there is anyone from our corner that is thinking of leaving...

Get with us first to see if we can help keep things in our corner....

Agreed! we have been there since the first season, and will be there as long as we can!

Shaft75
07-09-2008, 11:52 PM
I think that we all know that the front row of the opposite endzone is just way way rowdier. :)

Tedc
07-10-2008, 06:15 AM
I think that we all know that the front row of the opposite endzone is just way way rowdier. :)

I think they should take some pills to control themselves. You can see what I mean.....during a big play with the defense on the field :d: and Mario bearing down on an opposing QB......


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/Tedc/tampagame.jpg

Texan_Bill
07-10-2008, 08:22 AM
I think that we all know that the front row of the opposite endzone is just way way rowdier. :)

Albeit sitting on their hands... :rolleyes:


:whip:

Shaft75
07-10-2008, 02:42 PM
Gentleman-
No offense. But dealing with opposing fans makes me more rowdy period. But I have pissed off the likes of Patrick Kerney, Tony Scheffler(threw his gum at us), Jay Cutler(flipped us off and grabbed his crotch while telling us to f* off), Fat Albert(calling him Fat Albert), Pacman(calling him Lil Jon ticked him off big time), Troy Williamson(threw beer on him), and there is more...

LOL - One time I pissed off the waterboy for the Browns. DUDE was flaming mad, ranting and raving. The players were all laughing at him, it was hillarious.

Here is a better picture for you TedC:
http://www.texansbullpen.com/07photogallery/Season/2007-10-21-Titans-Texans/1stQuarter/DSC_0269.JPG

Texan_Bill
07-10-2008, 02:53 PM
Gentleman-
No offense. But dealing with opposing fans makes me more rowdy period. But I have pissed off the likes of Patrick Kerney, Tony Scheffler(threw his gum at us), Jay Cutler(flipped us off and grabbed his crotch while telling us to f* off), Fat Albert(calling him Fat Albert), Pacman(calling him Lil Jon ticked him off big time), Troy Williamson(threw beer on him), and there is more...

LOL - One time I pissed off the waterboy for the Browns. DUDE was flaming mad, ranting and raving. The players were all laughing at him, it was hillarious.

Here is a better picture for you TedC:
http://www.texansbullpen.com/07photogallery/Season/2007-10-21-Titans-Texans/1stQuarter/DSC_0269.JPG

Shaft is the one sitting down with his Tinnbred jersey on.... :pirate:

TexanSam
07-10-2008, 03:08 PM
Troy Williamson(threw beer on him), and there is more...


WTF is up with throwing beer at another team? Everything else is cool but why the hell would you throw beer at someone? That's just stupid and idiotic.

Shaft75
07-10-2008, 03:37 PM
WTF is up with throwing beer at another team? Everything else is cool but why the hell would you throw beer at someone? That's just stupid and idiotic.

Yo, I never said I did it. But it did happen, one reason is because they beat us in overtime and he went directly up to a guy a couple seats down from me and did the throat slash and said something like "game over, redneck mofo"...

And the beer wasn't thrown at him but on him.

Do you think Ocho Sinco should have got the beer shower that he did???

I personally am with the conserving beer class, especially when they don't sell it in the 4th quarter. I am sure Bill would agree!

Shaft75
07-10-2008, 03:38 PM
Shaft is the one sitting down with his Tinnbred jersey on.... :pirate:

You know me better than that! I am the one covering the Tinnbread's view.:kingkong:

aj.
07-11-2008, 07:44 AM
For the record, that 'big play' photo above of Mario sacking McCown was the next to last play of the game [clock under a minute remaining - Texans up by two TDs] during the win over TB last year. I'm sure there were quite a few empty seats everywhere in the stadium by then.

Thanks to Andy's power winder, here's a photo from literally seconds before, same play, different angle:

http://www.texansbullpen.com/07photogallery/Season/2007-12-09-Buccaneers-Texans/4thQuarter/DSC_1023.JPG

And here's a wider view of that area from earlier in the game:

http://www.texansbullpen.com/07photogallery/Season/2007-12-09-Buccaneers-Texans/1stQuarter/DSC_0285.JPG

Specnatz
07-11-2008, 11:21 AM
You need to send those pics into fan feedback showing that every game there is someone sitting next to you with a comment thanks for selling PSL to scalpers. Makes me sick at my stomach.

Shaft75
07-11-2008, 07:21 PM
For the record, that big play photo above of Mario sacking McCown was the next to last play of the game [clock under a minute remaining - Texans up by two TDs] during the win over TB last year. I'm sure there were quite a few empty seats everywhere in the stadium by then.

Thanks to Andy's power winder, here's a photo from literally seconds before, same play, different angle:

http://www.texansbullpen.com/07photogallery/Season/2007-12-09-Buccaneers-Texans/4thQuarter/DSC_1023.JPG

And here's one of the south end zone from earlier in that game:

http://www.texansbullpen.com/07photogallery/Season/2007-12-09-Buccaneers-Texans/1stQuarter/DSC_0285.JPG

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am beating on the wall in the first picture.

TexanDave
03-17-2009, 12:21 PM
I understand the desire to have the reserved parking space but like Yankee said, at some point the price becomes more than the value.
I share a total of 9 tickets with my 2 brothers and a friend. We have 3 yellow parking passes and we usually tailgate there but we also have 1 blue parking pass and tailgate there occasionally.
Our normal routine is to meet up near the yellow parking lot around 8:30 and then drive in together so we can all park next to each other and we usually get a good spot in the second patch of grass which is fine with us. It would be nice to know we can drive up at our own time and still get to tailgate together but it is not worth the extra price when we know we can still find some place in the lot together. The tailgating party is just as good 10 or 100 feet further away.
It is the tailgater not the space that makes the party.

sakebomb
04-16-2009, 11:38 AM
Don't know if it has been said before, but you should print out a copy of the email and take it to every game. That way you can show it to the people complaining or the yellow jackets that try to make it your fault.