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bah007
01-25-2008, 06:49 PM
It is really early to have a board out already so I'm sure that some of you aren't going to agree with some of my choices.

I always appreciate any feedback you guys can give me. Good or bad. So tell me what you think.

1. Darren McFadden HB, Arkansas
2. Chris Long DE, Virginia
3. Glenn Dorsey DT, LSU
4. Jake Long OT, Michigan
5. Sedrick Ellis DT, USC
6. Matt Ryan QB, Boston College
7. Kenny Phillips FS, Miami
8. Vernon Gholston DE, Ohio St
9. Jonathan Stewart HB, Oregon
10. Ryan Clady OT, Boise St
11. Keith Rivers OLB, USC
12. Malcolm Kelly WR, Oklahoma
13. Brian Brohm QB, Louisville
14. Mike Jenkins CB, USF
15. Leodis McKelvin CB, Troy
16. Rashard Mendenhall HB, Illinois
17. DeSean Jackson WR, Cal
18. Sam Baker OT, USC
19. Jeff Otah OT, Pitt
20. Derrick Harvey DE, Florida
21. Dan Connor OLB, Penn State
22. Andre Woodson QB, Kentucky
23. Phillip Merling DE, Clemson
24. Reggie Smith FS, Oklahoma
25. Aqib Talib CB, Kansas
26. Kentwan Butler DT, North Carolina
27. Felix Jones HB, Arkansas
28. Gosder Cherilus OT, Boston College
29. Quentin Groves DE, Auburn
30. Chris Williams OT, Vanderbilt
31. Fred Davis TE, USC
32. Antoine Cason CB, Arizona
33. Calais Campbell DE, Miami
34. Curtis Lofton MLB, Oklahoma
35. James Hardy WR, Indiana
36. Steve Justice C, Wake Forest
37. Pat Sims DT, Auburn
38. Terrell Thomas CB, USC
39. Early Doucet WR, LSU
40. Martellus Bennett TE, Texas A&M

beerlover
01-25-2008, 06:55 PM
I think your list is very good. I would move Calais Campbell into the top 20 however just too much talent to slide down that far, IMO :shades:

WesmanTexanfan
01-25-2008, 08:05 PM
I think your list is very good. I would move Calais Campbell into the top 20 however just too much talent to slide down that far, IMO :shades:

ya wouldnt mind picken him up if he slilps.... and we aquired a 2nd pick. i like th idea of another DE.... would be SICK for them all to grow together

kastofsna
01-25-2008, 08:14 PM
Campbell's talented is being overrated by two things. one, he had tons of hype and two, he played for Miami and the top players at Miami will always get overrated (see Merriweather last year).

beerlover
01-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Campbell's talented is being overrated by two things. one, he had tons of hype and two, he played for Miami and the top players at Miami will always get overrated (see Merriweather last year).

you should know Kast, Miami has been a black hole awhile now but that doesnt mean a talent is either over hyped or under hyped. Campbell has elite size, explosion, hand speed just needs motivated. throw some of the blame his way, but that had to factor in his decision to come out early & was told by the advisory committe he would be at least a 1st rd. pick.

bah007
01-25-2008, 11:14 PM
I'm curious to know what you guys think about Quentin Groves.

He had 11 TFLs & 8 sacks in 05.

13 TFLs & 10 sacks in 06.

But only 9 TFLs & 3 sacks this year.

threetoedpete
01-25-2008, 11:29 PM
If he can drop in coverge...he has proto typical 3-4 OLB speed and size. Be a good pick for the polks at the bottom of the first. 35 TT has to be a red flag. What does the tape say ? No doubt he has pass rushing skills...what about the rest of his game ? Is he having trouble getting rid of blockers? Why can't he run with the RBs and TE with his speed ? TTs & PDs are very low for someone of his reputation. What is it ? Why isn't he more productive ? The guy may be blessed with an all pro body and and cursed with an insect brain.

painekiller
01-26-2008, 12:24 AM
Campbell just needs motivated.

Wow, you really want a player that needs to be motivated? I want a guy that is self motivated to be the best. We already have a few guys that are not motivated to be the best on every play and it shows when they turn the switch on and off. Don't think I need another 1st rounder like that.

Give me a team of overachievers.

beerlover
01-26-2008, 12:38 AM
Wow, you really want a player that needs to be motivated? I want a guy that is self motivated to be the best. We already have a few guys that are not motivated to be the best on every play and it shows when they turn the switch on and off. Don't think I need another 1st rounder like that.

Give me a team of overachievers.

the situation is & has not been the best for a while in Miami, professionally & with the Hurricanes. I'm just saying he is only human & can't help but be affected by his surroundings to some degree. when I watched him he looked like he was playing hard @ other times the whole team looked like it had given up & getting slapped around by inferior talent. Miami was definetly not a team this year of overachievers but hard to imagine all his fault, just a reason to get the heck out of there, nothing more nothing less. dont read into this that he is a quiter, or underachiever he just wants a better situation to prove himself & earn a buck.

kiwitexansfan
01-26-2008, 01:49 AM
Wow, you really want a player that needs to be motivated? I want a guy that is self motivated to be the best. We already have a few guys that are not motivated to be the best on every play and it shows when they turn the switch on and off. Don't think I need another 1st rounder like that.

Give me a team of overachievers.

Same was said of Mario that seems to have panned out ok.

painekiller
01-26-2008, 02:05 AM
Same was said of Mario that seems to have panned out ok.

And he was one of the guys I was talking about, Travis Johnson was the other. They need to explode every play, now I will give Mario some room, he plays almost every defensive play, and that does wear a player out, any player. And he get double and triple team on most plays. I know.

But that does not mean I can't still wish he had the ability to go full out every play like he did in the Denver game.

bah007
01-27-2008, 04:37 PM
Post Senior Bowl Top 50:

1. Darren McFadden – HB, Arkansas
2. Chris Long – DE, Virginia
3. Glenn Dorsey – DT, LSU
4. Jake Long – OT, Michigan
5. Matt Ryan – QB, Boston College
6. Sedrick Ellis – DT, USC
7. Kenny Phillips – FS, Miami
8. Dan Connor – OLB, Penn State
9. Vernon Gholston – DE, Ohio St
10. Ryan Clady – OT, Boise St
11. Brian Brohm – QB, Louisville
12. Keith Rivers – OLB, USC
13. Leodis McKelvin – CB, Troy
14. Jonathan Stewart – HB, Oregon
15. Sam Baker – OT, USC
16. Mike Jenkins – CB, USF
17. Rashard Mendenhall – HB, Illinois
18. Malcolm Kelly – WR, Oklahoma
19. Derrick Harvey – DE, Florida
20. Fred Davis – TE, USC
21. DeSean Jackson – WR, Cal
22. Aqib Talib – CB, Kansas
23. Reggie Smith – FS, Oklahoma
24. Kentwan Butler – DT, North Carolina
25. Felix Jones – HB, Arkansas
26. Phillip Merling – DE, Clemson
27. Calais Campbell – DE, Miami
28. James Hardy – WR, Indiana
29. Joe Flacco – QB, Delware
30. Gosder Cherilus – OT, Boston College
31. Curtis Lofton – MLB, Oklahoma
32. Antoine Cason – CB, Arizona
33. Andre Woodson – QB, Kentucky
34. Early Doucet – WR, LSU
35. Lawrence Jackson – DE, USC
36. Steve Justice – C, Wake Forest
37. Devin Thomas – WR, Michigan St
38. Martellus Bennett – TE, Texas A&M
39. Ali Highsmith – OLB, LSU
40. Jeff Otah – OT, Pittsburgh
41. Chad Henne – QB, Michigan
42. Erin Henderson – OLB, Maryland
43. Quentin Groves – DE, Auburn
44. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie – CB, Tennessee St
45. Andre Caldwell – WR, Florida
46. Chris Johnson – HB, ECU
47. Chris Williams – OT, Vanderbilt
48. Pat Sims – DT, Auburn
49. Terrell Thomas – CB, USC
50. Mario Manningham – WR, Michigan