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The Pencil Neck
01-01-2008, 02:58 AM
Didn't see this posted, yet:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80598fcf&template=without-video&confirm=true

Home:
Indianapolis,
Jacksonville,
Tennessee,
Baltimore,
Cincinnati,
Chicago,
Detroit,
Miami


Away:
Indianapolis,
Jacksonville,
Tennessee,
Cleveland,
Pittsburgh,
Green Bay,
Minnesota,
Oakland

Thorn
01-01-2008, 06:42 AM
Unless there are some very good off season acquisitions made, that's going to be a tough schedule if we want to make the play offs next year. Other than Oakland, the road games are all against good teams.

SheTexan
01-01-2008, 10:46 AM
Yesterday's ragsheet, AKA The Houston Chronicle, said we would play KC, not Oakland. Which is it? Just curious.

drewmar74
01-01-2008, 11:09 AM
Unless there are some very good off season acquisitions made, that's going to be a tough schedule if we want to make the play offs next year. Other than Oakland, the road games are all against good teams.

I dunno, Thorn. I figured that most of the teams that we beat down the stretch would have handed us 'L's. I'm going to try to remain positive and hope that some of these teams implode in the offseason.

On a brighter note, probably for the first time in team history, opposing teams' fans aren't just chalking their game with us down as an easy W. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that some folks saw us on the schedule and uttered some expletives....

gwallaia
01-01-2008, 11:32 AM
I hope the Green Bay game is during December.

aj.
01-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Yesterday's ragsheet, AKA The Houston Chronicle, said we would play KC, not Oakland. Which is it? Just curious.

Oakland.

The Pencil Neck
01-01-2008, 11:53 AM
Yesterday's ragsheet, AKA The Houston Chronicle, said we would play KC, not Oakland. Which is it? Just curious.

Let's see, Houston Chronicle vs. NFL.com... hmmm... I'm going to go with NFL.com.

BUT... looking at the standings and given what I'd expect from the tie-breakers, I would have expected it to be the Chiefs.

aj.
01-01-2008, 12:04 PM
It's Oakland because of the "record vs. common opponent" tiebreaker. The Raiders were 2-12 and the Chiefs 3-11 vs. common opponents* Therefore the Raiders officially finish 4th in the AFCW.

* not to be confused with the opponent winning percentage thing used to determine draft order among teams with identical records. That's different and considers all 16 opponents, not just common opponents.

After the NFL realigned in 2002, they went to a slightly different playoff/standings tiebreaker system. Common games is now the 3rd tiebreaker ahead of conference record.

Tiebreaker rules for two teams in the same division:

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). Oak and KC split
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Oak and KC same
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. KC had better percentage than Oak. Tie Broken
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace/tiebreakers-explanation

Leahmic223
01-01-2008, 12:09 PM
Wow Pats move over we could go 16-0 :fans:

GlassHalfFull
01-01-2008, 12:18 PM
Just curious, why do we play again on the road in Cleveland? It seems like if you play an oppenent two years in a row, you should alternate home and away. Same in reverse for Miami. I've never paid too much attention to how the NFL comes up with their schedules, so I don't understand the logic here.

Our away schedule looks brutal.

The Pencil Neck
01-01-2008, 12:21 PM
It's Oakland because of the "record vs. common opponent" tiebreaker. The Raiders were 2-12 and the Chiefs 3-11 vs. common opponents* Therefore the Raiders officially finish 4th in the AFCW.


Ahhh, thanks. I was going to conference record instead of common opponents.

dtran04
01-01-2008, 12:33 PM
The schedule never turns out the way you think it will. I think most people would have feared NO,CAR, or DEN over CLE or TB easily at the beginning of this season.

nero THE zero
01-01-2008, 12:48 PM
The schedule never turns out the way you think it will. I think most people would have feared NO,CAR, or DEN over CLE or TB easily at the beginning of this season.

Yep. With the turnover and parity in the league there is really no way to judge the strength of your schedule, especially before the previous season is even over.

Still, there is no parity involved in the weather so I hope our away games get front loaded on our schedule. It would really hurt to get Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Green Bay in Nov/Dec.

SheTexan
01-01-2008, 12:55 PM
Oakland.

Thanks Aj!!

Sorry Marcie!! There goes a fun road trip.

aj.
01-01-2008, 01:01 PM
Just curious, why do we play again on the road in Cleveland? It seems like if you play an oppenent two years in a row, you should alternate home and away. Same in reverse for Miami. I've never paid too much attention to how the NFL comes up with their schedules, so I don't understand the logic here.



The schedule was developed prior to the '02 season to accomodate the divisional realignment and is pre-set through '09. You can find it by Googling NFL schedule 2002-09 or something like that. I think it works pretty well.

The Texans play @ Cleveland in '08 because of the 3 yr. home and away 'intraconference by division' schedule rotation. The AFC South played the AFC North in '02, '05, and will play them again in '08. In '02 the Texans played @ Cleveland. In '05 Cleveland played @ Houston. And in '08 the Texans play @ Cleveland under this home-away rotation.

The Texans played @ Cleveland in '07 because the pre-set scheduling formula called for the AFC South 4th place team in '06 to play @ the AFC North 4th place team in '06 (whatever teams those turned out to be).

Cleveland was @ Houston in '06 because the pre-set scheduling formula called for the AFC North 4th place team in '05 to play @ the AFC South 4th place team in '05 (whatever teams those turned out to be - Balt and Cleve tied at 6-10 but Cleve was the 'official' AFCN 4th place team).

So as you can see, the last two Browns/Texans meetings were based on standings position and locations that are 'hard-coded' into the formula, whereas the '02, '05, and '08 meetings with the Browns (and the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals) are based on home and away per the 3 year intraconference division rotation.

It may sound confusing but it's pretty easy to figure out just by looking at the schedule formula.

DiapHer
01-01-2008, 01:06 PM
Thanks Aj!!

Sorry Marcie!! There goes a fun road trip.


:wild:

GlassHalfFull
01-01-2008, 01:35 PM
The schedule was developed prior to the '02 season to accomodate the divisional realignment and is pre-set through '09. You can find it by Googling NFL schedule 2002-09 or something like that. I think it works pretty well.

The Texans play @ Cleveland in '08 because of the 3 yr. home and away 'intraconference by division' schedule rotation. The AFC South played the AFC North in '02, '05, and will play them again in '08. In '02 the Texans played @ Cleveland. In '05 Cleveland played @ Houston. And in '08 the Texans play @ Cleveland under this home-away rotation.

The Texans played @ Cleveland in '07 because the pre-set scheduling formula called for the AFC South 4th place team in '06 to play @ the AFC North 4th place team in '06 (whatever teams those turned out to be).

Cleveland was @ Houston in '06 because the pre-set scheduling formula called for the AFC North 4th place team in '05 to play @ the AFC South 4th place team in '05 (whatever teams those turned out to be - Balt and Cleve tied at 6-10 but Cleve was the 'official' AFCN 4th place team).

So as you can see, the last two Browns/Texans meetings were based on standings position and locations that are 'hard-coded' into the formula, whereas the '02, '05, and '08 meetings with the Browns (and the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals) are based on home and away per the 3 year intraconference division rotation.

It may sound confusing but it's pretty easy to figure out just by looking at the schedule formula.

Thanks, I was WAY too lazy to look that up for myself.

WaywardTexanFan
01-01-2008, 06:18 PM
I finally get to see my Texans play a game in person. I'll be at the Steelers game.:whip: :texflag:

Thorn
01-01-2008, 06:23 PM
I dunno, Thorn. I figured that most of the teams that we beat down the stretch would have handed us 'L's. I'm going to try to remain positive and hope that some of these teams implode in the offseason.

On a brighter note, probably for the first time in team history, opposing teams' fans aren't just chalking their game with us down as an easy W. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that some folks saw us on the schedule and uttered some expletives....

I think it's an easy enough assumption to make that we'll be a better team next year. How much better and how well we compete in our own division is the million dollar question.

I hoping during the offseason we sign either a starting O lineman or DB from free agency, and use the 18th pick in the first round to get the other. That would go a long way in getting us there.

drewmar74
01-01-2008, 06:59 PM
I think it's an easy enough assumption to make that we'll be a better team next year. How much better and how well we compete in our own division is the million dollar question.

I hoping during the offseason we sign either a starting O lineman or DB from free agency, and use the 18th pick in the first round to get the other. That would go a long way in getting us there.

Agreed on both points.

It's going to be awfully difficult to make the playoffs if we can't compete in our own division. You get saddled with 4 or 5 L's from the folks that you see twice a year and you've already dug a hole that's tough to get out of in the AFC.

I'm usually a "big ugly" guy when it comes to the draft and I'm hoping that we'll go that route in April. I would like to see a veteran DB come in to help in the secondary given Kubiak's reticence (perceived, anyway) to start young'uns in the defensive backfield.

Maybe Sorgi will beat out Manning in next year's camp, Haynesworth will suddenly retire, and Del Rio will resign Leftwich..... if we can get all that to happen we're in the race for the division crown!

adam
01-02-2008, 12:26 AM
Unless there are some very good off season acquisitions made, that's going to be a tough schedule if we want to make the play offs next year. Other than Oakland, the road games are all against good teams.

It's debatable. Most likely, the Browns are going to trade Anderson...which means that Quinn will be picking up the reigns. Most likely, barring an ungodly coming out year for Quinn, the Browns offense will be back at the developmental stage. The same thing goes for Green Bay if Favre were to retire this next season. They will most likely not be a great offense under Aaron Rodgers first real season of play. As for Minnesota, I don't think that they are all they are cracked up to be. Yes, Adrian Peterson is a total beast. However, if you find a way to contain him (no easy task of course) their offense is pathetic. Pittsburgh is a pretty tough team, but exploitable. That just leaves our division regulars, which are the hardest games we'll have all season.

Though, the home schedule has me foaming at the mouth. :)

mootini
01-02-2008, 12:59 PM
Next season, Texans will make the playoffs. That schedule looks easier than the schedule you played this season.

Andrew6
01-02-2008, 01:03 PM
Next season, Texans will make the playoffs. That schedule looks easier than the schedule you played this season.

NFC opponnets seem a lil harder and the AFC teams seem to be about the same

Not looking forward to playing in Pittsburg or Lambeau this next year.

threetoedpete
01-02-2008, 02:30 PM
Next season, Texans will make the playoffs. That schedule looks easier than the schedule you played this season.

I'm looking at the schedule and from my tree they better learn how to get off the feild on third down. They play a lot of teams on the road who can move the chain on the ground. That doesn't play to our strengeths.

Norg
03-26-2008, 12:43 PM
My thoughts on the sechudle

Home:
Indianapolis - We usually play indy good at home but everyone saying that this will be indy year of falling apart i hope so becasue it so hard to make it into the playoffs in are divison

Jacksonville- last year proved jax was the best team in are divison and will be hard to beat

Tennessee- another rival game and u know why LOL

Baltimore- a physical game and looking at the sechudle we have alot of cold physical games ahead of us LOL

Cincinnati-Beatable LOL
Chicago- we should beat them
Detroit-Also beatable
Miami-PLZZZ LOL


Away:
Indianapolis - Divison games to hard to tell
Jacksonville -
Tennessee-
Cleveland - i just keep thinking its just Cleveland LOL how hard can it be
Pittsburgh- Another physical game i was talking about
Green Bay -hopefully rogers does not play good
Minnesota- prob will be one of are toughest games of the season
Oakland-ummm we could win

JayCee
03-26-2008, 02:02 PM
everyone saying that this will be indy year of falling apart
Whose been saying that? With 20/22 starters returning they are still one of the front runners to go all the way.

BigBull17
03-26-2008, 02:19 PM
Yeah, but some of their guys are starting to show age. However, Ill never discount #18. The bastard.

HJam72
03-26-2008, 02:38 PM
I can't judge the schedule until I know what our record is going to be. :thinking:

Norg
03-27-2008, 12:51 AM
Whose been saying that? With 20/22 starters returning they are still one of the front runners to go all the way.

well some people where saying it because tony dungy retired ....

DiehardChris
03-27-2008, 12:53 AM
well some people where saying it because tony dungy retired ....

But... he didn't retire.

b0ng
03-27-2008, 12:09 PM
But... he didn't retire.

It's like he watched a buttload of ESPN, but only for a week after the season ended.

sakebomb
03-28-2008, 11:26 PM
I was thinking the same thing in regards to the home schedule.