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Hardcore Texan
12-30-2007, 05:45 PM
So, just curious, I have heard how it can get pretty hot in the North End Zone when the roof is open. How were the conditions in the stadium today?

brakos82
12-30-2007, 05:46 PM
There was ice everywhere here.

sakebomb
12-30-2007, 05:50 PM
It was hot. Not miserable but just hot.

GlassHalfFull
12-30-2007, 06:26 PM
Hot, we got the shade mid way thru the 3rd quarter, it made a huge difference.

rickyb
12-30-2007, 09:20 PM
So, just curious, I have heard how it can get pretty hot in the North End Zone when the roof is open. How were the conditions in the stadium today?

I was in the shade the whole time, and it was pretty dang great, although I can easily understand how being in the Bull Pen would raise the temp a bit. The Pen seemed the only part of the stadium baking in sunshine.

Maybe the Texans could consider December home games starting at 3pm? (ie, December = best odds for open roof; 3pm = shade for all)

SheTexan
12-31-2007, 10:11 AM
It was HOT in the NEZ! I met a couple families in the Bullpen Pub who could not sit there because the seats were to hot for their kids to sit in. The brightness and glare was terrible. With the sun blasting down through the roof, it was difficult to see. IMO anyway. I spent the first half standing at the rail. The shade hits my area about 2-3 min after the half. I'm just to old and fat to tolerate that kind of heat. Got really sick last year trying to be tough and stick it out. Decided it just was not worth it this time.

BigWig
12-31-2007, 10:15 AM
I can relate, when I used to sit in the Bullpen, it was brutal.
Personally maybe they should just open the roof for night games, that would please most everyone.
I do miss a "true" outdoor stadium though and cant wait for a road trip to the great white north next year.

Hagar
12-31-2007, 10:54 AM
I was sweating in the third quarter.

Texan_Bill
12-31-2007, 10:57 AM
It was HOT in the NEZ! I met a couple families in the Bullpen Pub who could not sit there because the seats were to hot for their kids to sit in. The brightness and glare was terrible. With the sun blasting down through the roof, it was difficult to see. IMO anyway. I spent the first half standing at the rail. The shade hits my area about 2-3 min after the half. I'm just to old and fat to tolerate that kind of heat. Got really sick last year trying to be tough and stick it out. Decided it just was not worth it this time.

It wasn't too hot for me!!! :winky:

Thank you!!!!

Hardcore Texan
12-31-2007, 11:31 AM
IIRC, there were only 2 games this year with the roof open....is that right?

Does anyone know when Sect. 115 gets shade?

It seems like if the roof doesn't get open until late Nov or in Dec because of the policy, the temp will hopefully be no hotter than yesterday. Mix in a couple of games starting at 3PM and maybe a primetime game next season it could be much better.

SheTexan
12-31-2007, 11:40 AM
IIRC, there were only 2 games this year with the roof open....is that right?

Does anyone know when Sect. 115 gets shade?

It seems like if the roof doesn't get open until late Nov or in Dec because of the policy, the temp will hopefully be no hotter than yesterday. Mix in a couple of games starting at 3PM and maybe a primetime game next season it could be much better.

At this time of year, section 115 gets shade right about half time. I sit in 116 and we get shade within 5 min or so of the third quarter. Before the time change, the NEZ stays pretty much in the sun throughout the entire game. Might start getting shade late in the forth quarter. With the new temp policy, unless we have a night game, the roof will probably stay closed. This was the only noon game where the roof was open, this year, so I really can't, and won't, complain. IF it had been cloudy, it probably would have been a very nice open roof day. The glare and brightness was terrible.

gwallaia
12-31-2007, 11:45 AM
All of this reinforces the fact that this is a poorly designed stadium with regards to sunlight, temperature control and air circulation.

Baga21
12-31-2007, 11:49 AM
3/4 of the stadium loved the roof being open. It was beautiful outside...cool and quite comfortable inside.

I do feel for the NEZ and I was wondering if it was hot because the sun was blasting them all game.

3:00pm December games is a good idea if we could get them.

StarStruck
12-31-2007, 03:26 PM
IIRC, there were only 2 games this year with the roof open....is that right?

Does anyone know when Sect. 115 gets shade?

It seems like if the roof doesn't get open until late Nov or in Dec because of the policy, the temp will hopefully be no hotter than yesterday. Mix in a couple of games starting at 3PM and maybe a primetime game next season it could be much better.


I didn't check the time, but 115 got the shade about 10 minutes into the second half. I left my area with about 4 minutes on the clock before the half, and returned a few minutes after Davis' first kickoff return and my area had shade. From that point on the weather was great.

Before the game I was excited about the open roof given the temperature was below 80 degrees, but the stadium holds the heat and it felt more like 90. it wasn't anything like the Steeler game because I think I could have remained yesterday without becoming ill although it was extremely uncomfortable. 3:00 would be a great gametime, even with the warmer temperatures earlier in the season.

FILO_girl
12-31-2007, 03:33 PM
It was almost miserable. Awesome weather for tailgating, but there is MINIMAL air movement inside Reliant. Didn't make the entire 4th quarter, too uncomfortable. If the roof is open, we are in the sun the entire game...for noon games.

If they could only close the roof on the NEZ...it would have been great. :)

TEXANS84
12-31-2007, 03:39 PM
It was warm, but it wasn't anything to freak out about. The beating of the sun and the constant holding the hand over forehead to block the glare was the biggest issue.
The shade was nice when it rolled around.
Personally, I'm all for keeping the roof open if it's nice weather/OR rainy weather. But it has to be cold in order for that bad boy to stay open. Anything over 75 degrees is going to be brutal for us.
I still have flashbacks of the Steelers game in 05, when I completely lost feeling in my hands.

Drew_Smoke
12-31-2007, 06:42 PM
I wussed out and moved to the other end. The sun is one thing, but no breeze (all they gotta do is prop doors open) sucks. If they'd just close the roof enough to block out the sun y'all would have it made.

aj.
12-31-2007, 06:54 PM
Perfect.

Great day to have the roof open.

As we were walking in, I mentioned to my guest that it brought back memories of when I HATED walking into the Astrodome on a beautiful late fall/early winter day to watch a game.

Speedy
12-31-2007, 07:46 PM
All of this reinforces the fact that this is a poorly designed stadium with regards to sunlight, temperature control and air circulation.

It was almost miserable. Awesome weather for tailgating, but there is MINIMAL air movement inside Reliant.

I wussed out and moved to the other end. The sun is one thing, but no breeze (all they gotta do is prop doors open) sucks.

It was plenty breezy in my upper SEZ seats. Almost made it a little too chilly. The flags on the south goal post were even flapping. First time ever I can recall noticing that.

And even when I baked in the sun in the NEZ the 1st 4 years, there seemed to always be a breeze, not so much for the Pittsburgh game, but I've always felt a breeze with the lid open.

Maybe it doesn't get down to the lower bowl.

SheTexan
12-31-2007, 08:26 PM
The weather was perfect and it was great having the roof open. Yes, my seats are in the shade, I would not have bought seats in the sun. I can't stand sitting in the sun (I don't like the brightness, glare, heat, or sunburn), but since I am more than 4 years old I knew that meant "get seats in the shade".

Some people love sitting in the sun. For those who don't like sitting in the sun but bought tickets in the North End Zone anyways: spend $3 and buy a hat or visor. Or spend $30 and buy a licensed Texans hat. If the sun is shining I wear a hat just to walk from the tailgate into the stadium.

All 70,000 fans can't sit in the shade, so why the nasty sarcasm? When I bought my seats I was more concerned about cost. Other than the upper levels, the end zone seats were the cheapest PSLs. I HATE heights, therefore my decision to buy seats in the end zone. I didn't think about the position of the stadium in relation to the sun, nor did anyone from the Texans point out to me that the NEZ would be in the sun. It was NEVER discussed. After 30+ years of watching football in a domed stadium, thinking about the SUN didn't cross my mind! So, I guess I have the mentality of a 4 yr old for not thinking about that issue!!

StarStruck
01-01-2008, 12:11 AM
1. The Texans organization advertised desired atomsphere for the Bull Pen.
2. The Texans organization did not advertise that certain areas of the field would have temperatures averaging 95 degrees per game.
3. Many people thought, although incorrectly, the open roof would be the same as open air.
4. Many like sunshine, but for the number of seats in the sun and the cost involved, very few if any in hindsight would have chosen seats that would pose a health risk.
5. The Texans experience could serve as a model for other teams that are planning new stadiums and given climate conditions if a retractable roof is a good investment. Bear in mind that the concept hasn't worked well for the Astros organization either.
6. Being Texan fans is what most of us on here have in common, so lets try not to be divided by some things that the organization can work out for the good of all.

HAPPY NEW YEAR, AND ALL THE BEST FOR A 2008 PLAYOFF SEASON!

gwallaia
01-01-2008, 12:01 PM
Sunday's game with the roof open during absolutely perfect pleasant weather is proof of two things: a.) The design of the stadium was not well thought out and b.) The NFL and the Texans need to change their short-sighted rules regarding the roof policy.

Obviously, it will always be too hot and miserable in the sun even when the temps are in the 50's. Therefore, during all games, (except during rain) the roof over the south end of the stadium should always be open and the roof over the north end should be continuously adjusted as the sunlight moves over the stadium so as to maintain the shade in the stands.

There are shades over the luxury boxes where the golf-clapping, Grey Poupon crowd socialize during games. Why not let the north side roof act as a shade for the football fans? Having the south roof open, even during hot games will be fine, the Pittsburgh game was quite comfortable for the fans on the shady side.

The Texans have built this stadium with a retractable roof that is rarely used. Seems to me they should determine a way to make it work.

rickyb
01-01-2008, 08:42 PM
I stand by my original proposal: for late season home games, consider scheduling 3pm starts. In so doing, if the weather permits an open roof, ALL will be shaded and comfortable.

Lauren
01-02-2008, 12:03 PM
I didn't think the stadium temp was that bad. I was comfortable once I switched to short-sleeves from long-sleeves. Of course, I was happy once the shade came over, but that was more of an eye comfort thing. :)

I thought it was a great day for the roof to be open!

texanskan
01-02-2008, 12:14 PM
What a bunch of freaking bitchers, I sit in section 115 and it was great in the first half with the sun and in the second half in the shade.

I can't figure out why so many folks ***** so much when it might not be 72 degree's to the number.

My god, I see why most did not want to ever deal with 90+ temps again but when it's in the 60's and 70's and perfect ya'll are still finding something wrong? wtf

50/80 rule should be fine for everyone if you can't handle that range you should never leave the house.

Hagar
01-02-2008, 01:55 PM
I sit in section 119 and when the roof is open, it's always sunny. There is no, and I have never been in the shade at my seat. I know this and I am fine with the 80-degree upper limit. I don't care about the lower limit.

At the Jacksonville game I wore my cowboy to protect my face and short pants to keep cool. I was still sweating in the 3rd quarter.

Its something you have to learn to live with and make adequate preparations. Now I have no interest in sitting in those seats when the temperature rises over 80 degrees. You'd bake.

:heat:

Texan_Bill
01-02-2008, 02:00 PM
Section 120...

The only game I ever had an issue with was that Pittsburgh game.

But no worries... The skin graphs on the back of my legs should be complete over the next couple of months. When I say "I left a peice of me at Reliant", I meant it literally... :cowboy1:

Speedy
01-02-2008, 07:37 PM
If you can't open the roof on a day like December 30, 2007, then you might as well weld the damn thing shut.

Texans_Chick
01-03-2008, 12:35 PM
It was warm, but it wasn't anything to freak out about. The beating of the sun and the constant holding the hand over forehead to block the glare was the biggest issue.
The shade was nice when it rolled around.
Personally, I'm all for keeping the roof open if it's nice weather/OR rainy weather. But it has to be cold in order for that bad boy to stay open. Anything over 75 degrees is going to be brutal for us.
I still have flashbacks of the Steelers game in 05, when I completely lost feeling in my hands.


This is right. For me, the glare was a little more difficult than the heat. That being said, it was nice to have the roof open.

I think they should have it open for temps colder than 50 as well.

When I saw how sunny it was, I predicted that the returns on the Bull Pen side of the field were going to be a little quirky. Sure enough, the Jag player let the ball bounce in front of him for the first return. I can't imagine trying to catch a kickoff or punt looking into that sun.

Double Barrel
01-03-2008, 01:29 PM
All of this reinforces the fact that this is a poorly designed stadium with regards to sunlight, temperature control and air circulation.

yep, it's basically a dome with a sun roof for all intents and purposes.

5. The Texans experience could serve as a model for other teams that are planning new stadiums and given climate conditions if a retractable roof is a good investment. Bear in mind that the concept hasn't worked well for the Astros organization either.

I'm not sure I follow you with this one. The Astros have been setting annual attendance records at Minutemaid and have actually won several post-season series. What part didn't work out for them?

I stand by my original proposal: for late season home games, consider scheduling 3pm starts. In so doing, if the weather permits an open roof, ALL will be shaded and comfortable.

I think the NFL and the networks determine the starting times, not the individual teams. We have traditionally had 12:00 starting times because we've traditionally sucked, and this is the lowest time slot with regards to television ratings. We win more games and we'll start seeing more 3:00 starts.

NitroGSXR
01-03-2008, 01:48 PM
I'm not sure I follow you with this one. The Astros have been setting annual attendance records at Minutemaid and have actually won several post-season series. What part didn't work out for them?

I think it was more of an inclination that the stadium is rarely open at Minute Maid thus a waste of money installing a retractable roof.

Personally? I'd want the roof welded shut or only allow it to be open for games after 3pm. The sun really does hamper my view and that's what bothers me the most when attending venues such as this one. I came to watch football and baseball. I paid good money and I want to see the game. The sun's glare hampers that tremenously. I'm not saying that the temperature needs to be whatever it is, I'm just saying that I want to see the game. I close the blinds in my living room at around noon and open them around 2-3 so I can see the TV. Glare blows. I don't care what temperature it is in the stadium just as long as I can see the jumbotron and field.

Reliant needs to replace a couple of speakers with large fans for those in the bullpen. That would be easily done, I'd think.

Texan_Bill
01-03-2008, 02:15 PM
I'm not sure I follow you with this one. The Astros have been setting annual attendance records at Minutemaid and have actually won several post-season series. What part didn't work out for them?



I think the NFL and the networks determine the starting times, not the individual teams. We have traditionally had 12:00 starting times because we've traditionally sucked, and this is the lowest time slot with regards to television ratings. We win more games and we'll start seeing more 3:00 starts.

Agreed. I have no idea where that comment about the Astros came in to play. In 2007, the Astros finished 10th in overall attendance, 10th in average at 37,000+ and 8th in percentage of capacity AND that was with a completely crappy product on the field...

Disagree here. With the Oilers, our divisional foes were all in the Eastern Time Zone which played a major role. With the Texans, Indy and Tenn., are CST and JAX being EST. Teams like KC that are located in CST have divisional teams that are either Mountain Time (Denver) and Pacific time. They play in the 3:00 slot a lot and they are not exactly world beaters.

Also, generally the majority of Sunday's games fall in the noon time slot anyway.

Double Barrel
01-03-2008, 04:06 PM
Disagree here. With the Oilers, our divisional foes were all in the Eastern Time Zone which played a major role. With the Texans, Indy and Tenn., are CST and JAX being EST. Teams like KC that are located in CST have divisional teams that are either Mountain Time (Denver) and Pacific time. They play in the 3:00 slot a lot and they are not exactly world beaters.

I remember one year that we had a 3:00 game that got moved back to 12:00 during the season. That was a network decision, IIRC.

I would not doubt that there are certain provisions to accomodate time zones (mentioned below).

Here (http://www.nfl.com/schedules/tv/flexible) is an article about flex scheduling, which mentions:

The NFL has commonly moved games between 1:00 p.m. ET and 4:15 p.m. ET on Sunday afternoons, and the NFL now employs flexible scheduling to include one of its primetime packages of games - on Sunday evenings.

Sunday afternoon games, as in the past, can still be moved between 1:00 and 4:05 or 4:15 p.m. ET.

The majority of games on Sundays will be listed at 1:00 p.m. ET during flex weeks except for games played in Pacific or Mountain Time zones which will be listed at 4:05 or 4:15 p.m. ET.

It says nothing about the teams having a say in the matter. idonno:

I'll keep looking, as I recall reading an article pertaining to the game start times as they relate to the teams and ratings. Things obviously could have changed since then, but my main point was that the teams themselves have no say in the matter.

StarStruck
01-03-2008, 05:06 PM
Agreed. I have no idea where that comment about the Astros came in to play. In 2007, the Astros finished 10th in overall attendance, 10th in average at 37,000+ and 8th in percentage of capacity AND that was with a completely crappy product on the field... HUH


I was referring to the "temp in the stadium today" and wondered out loud rather typed, that given the cost of both stadiums to include retractable roofs, that even though the concept was great in theory, the application seems to be less than desired. In other words how is the open roof concept working for us, not attendance statistics. Things could have changed over the last year, but my experiences at Minute Maid except for the first year that at most times the roof was closed during afternoon games, and the evening game closed until about the 7th inning, and in some games remained closed at all times. I didn't go to any of the games last year, so the policy could have changed.

Joe Texan
01-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Where would yall be with out the rodeo. We would have a open stadium if it were not for the rodeo. I do not care where the sun is and as of last game it got us a turnover so the sun is on our side.

Texan_Bill
01-03-2008, 05:25 PM
I remember one year that we had a 3:00 game that got moved back to 12:00 during the season. That was a network decision, IIRC.

I would not doubt that there are certain provisions to accomodate time zones (mentioned below).

Here (http://www.nfl.com/schedules/tv/flexible) is an article about flex scheduling, which mentions:



It says nothing about the teams having a say in the matter. idonno:

I'll keep looking, as I recall reading an article pertaining to the game start times as they relate to the teams and ratings. Things obviously could have changed since then, but my main point was that the teams themselves have no say in the matter.

We're definitely on the same page there (underlined part). I knew that it was always a Network and League call.

My perspective was from a general standpoint. For example; I have seen them schedule the Dallas v. say (Philly / NY / Wash) game to the 3:00 time slot because it is for ratings. But thats more of an exception than a rule for teams from the Central and East. So in that respect ratings do play a part.

Texan_Bill
01-03-2008, 05:27 PM
Where would yall be with out the rodeo. We would have a open stadium if it were not for the rodeo. I do not care where the sun is and as of last game it got us a turnover so the sun is on our side.

O-W-E-N-S!!! O-W-E-N-S!!! O-W-E-N-S!!! O-W-E-N-S!!! O-W-E-N-S!!!

Texan_Bill
01-03-2008, 05:32 PM
I was referring to the "temp in the stadium today" and wondered out loud rather typed, that given the cost of both stadiums to include retractable roofs, that even though the concept was great in theory, the application seems to be less than desired. In other words how is the open roof concept working for us, not attendance statistics. Things could have changed over the last year, but my experiences at Minute Maid except for the first year that at most times the roof was closed during afternoon games, and the evening game closed until about the 7th inning, and in some games remained closed at all times. I didn't go to any of the games last year, so the policy could have changed.

As Joe stated. The original design for Reliant was to be an open air stadium. The Rodeo which actually occupies the venue for more dates than the Texans do, needed a roof for their performances. The Rodeo can not be rained out.... Period.

With Minute Maid there have been times that I was dissapointed that the roof wasn't opened. There have been times that was dissapointed that the roof wasn't closed. Point being is, you cant please all of the people all of the time.

Double Barrel
01-03-2008, 06:02 PM
If we had built an open air football stadium, it would have been engineered to maximize natural air flows. The sun would still be a factor, as would Houston's infamous mosquitoes (one of the reasons the Astrodome was built).

The compromise was Reliant Stadium. I like it, but then again, I sit on the dark side, so it's never an issue. I'm always looking down at the field anyway, so open, closed, or dome, it's never made much of a difference to me.

With regards to Minutemaid, I've always thought the roof was a novelty. And as novelties go, I've always liked it. Growing up and watching ball in the sterile confines of the Astrodome, it was a welcome relief to get any kind of open air 'feel' during a baseball game.

GlassHalfFull
01-03-2008, 06:36 PM
With Minute Maid there have been times that I was dissapointed that the roof wasn't opened. There have been times that was dissapointed that the roof wasn't closed. Point being is, you cant please all of the people all of the time.

And sadly enough, there are some people you can never please.

gwallaia
01-03-2008, 07:06 PM
And sadly enough, there are some people you can never please.

You have obviously met my ex-wife.

Lauren
01-03-2008, 11:34 PM
And she's clearly met many of our Texans fans!

Texanfan4ever
01-04-2008, 01:19 PM
I'm in 119 and it is never in the shade. Would have been about 3:15. Sunday's game was warm. Not undoable, but sweaty. I had forgotten and didn't wear a visor, that would have made a tremendous difference with the glare. By the end of the game after staring into the glaring sun, I not only was exhausted and a/c deprived but had a horrendous headache.

Unbearable heat??? Not that day, but unbearable glare that sneaks up on you and makes a statement at the end of 4 quarters. We sit down at 11:30 and don't leave until the very end.

That being said, I love the sun and the roof being open. Next year I won't forget my visor. Sunglasses don't help because there is too much glare.