Jaguars vs Texans: Going for 8-8 Gameday Thread!

[alphajoker]

Let's get our first winning season Texans! :fans:

[Thorn]

Well, technically, it won’t be a winning season but rather a non-losing season. But that still works for me. Here’s to 8-8!

[alphajoker]

True, true...either way, the Texans won't be losers anymore if they win.

[axman40]

1st season at .500! YES!
:fans:

[Thorn]

True, true...either way, the Texans won't be losers anymore if they win.


And that's main thing, not being losers anymore. From this season forward, I don't want any more losing seasons. I know injuries are part of the game, but if we didn't have any injuries to our starters this season, I have a feeling we'd already have our 8 wins and not be here wishing for our eighth.

[Studdard64]

While the injuries have been bad, if we don't protect the football better then mediocre is the best we can hope for.

I really hope the guys come out fired up today and give us all a good feeling heading into the offseason.

Go Texans!

[Nawzer]

Let's go Texans! Let's make this a historic day for our franchise! Beat the Jags!

[Austrian]

I really think we have a shot at beating the Jags backups. :shades:

Let's do this and please if Quinn Gray plays, don't let him look like Peyton Manning.

GO Texans!!:texflag:

[axman40]

I really think we have a shot at beating the Jags backups. :shades:

Let's do this and please if Quinn Gray plays, don't let him look like Peyton Manning.

GO Texans!!:texflag:
Garrard is listed as backup,no Fred Taylor or MJD!
:fans:

[houstonhurricane]

We had better beat the Jags now that they are not playing Taylor, Jones-Drew, most of their defensive starters and are playing Gray over Garrard. This "should be" a done deal...

[TheRealJoker]

I'm hoping Mario leads the league in sacks when the regular season is done!!!

Any of their OL inactive?

[b0ng]

I'm hoping Mario leads the league in sacks when the regular season is done!!!

Any of their OL inactive?

Fred Taylor - RB
Maurice Jones-Drew RB/KR
Daryl Smith - LB
Mike Peterson - LB
Tony Pashos - ORT
Dennis Northcutt - WR
Paul Spicer - DE
Rashean Mathis - CB

Just one, the RT.

EDIT: I'll post now before I get too drunk/angry.

GOOO TEXANS.

Got my new Battle Red A. Johnson jersey.

[76Texan]

24-14 Good Guys! :fans:

[Brandon420tx]

My biggest reason for wanting a win:

If we get swept by our entire division I will hurl, and I hate doing that.

[Austrian]

Excellent, I'll be able to watch the game today.

[bckey]

Did you guys hear what Randy Cross just said about Casserly? He bragged on how good of shape Casserly left the Texans in. What a complete *****!

[axman40]

Kickoff . Jags start at their own 16.

[axman40]

illegal motion on Jags 1st and 15

[axman40]

Toefield gains 2

[axman40]

Gray to Willford 1st down

[axman40]

Gray to Jones 1st down

[axman40]

Gray to Willford for 8

[axman40]

Gray to Williams inc

[axman40]

Toefield for 1

[Thorn]

I hope our defense shows up sometime soon.

[axman40]

Gray to Willford ,1st down

[axman40]

Toefield for 4

[axman40]

Gray to Toefied for 5

[b0ng]

Oh defense, where art thou?

Ryans is still hitting.

[axman40]

Jones gains 3

[Marcus]

:yawn:

(Where's the remote?)

[axman40]

Jones gains 9

[axman40]

Gray to Angulo inc

[axman40]

Jones gains 2

[axman40]

Gray to Williams for the TD.XP good
Jags 7-0

[hookinreds]

That was terrible.

[Thorn]

Well, we sucked on that drive.

[Maddict5]

hutchins isnt going to cut it- denver, indy and now- hes being violated

[Marcus]

Playing their subs and we still get run over.:brickwall:

I'm not watching this game for very much longer.

[Brandon420tx]

Well, we sucked on that drive.

I noticed that they were rolling alot of extra protection onto marios side that game, our players on the opposite had a chance to get there but were usually too slow.

[kiwitexansfan]

Glad they aren't playing their starters.

[bckey]

:yawn:

(Where's the remote?)

I found mine and cut the sound off so I don't have to listen to Randy Cross. Team Cross with the guy from Buffalo and I would probably never be able to listen to the Texans on CBS again.

[axman40]

AD returns to the 28 flag down , holding Texans

[Maddict5]

I noticed that they were rolling alot of extra protection onto marios side that game, our players on the opposite had a chance to get there but were usually too slow.


weaver? :bat:

[adam]

Dear Texans Starting Defense for December 30, 2007,

With the exception of Demeco Ryans and Mario Williams, you are all completely worthless. Step it up or get the hell of the field. Texans fans are sick of watching you play like a mediocre high school team with no character or even a fair amount of talent. Thanks.

Sincerely,
A fan

[axman40]

Sage to AJ for 17 Jags offside

[axman40]

Sage to AJ inc Jags offside again

[axman40]

Sage to Dayne drops the ball

[axman40]

Dayne gains 1

[b0ng]

Dear Texans Starting Defense for December 30, 2007,

With the exception of Demeco Ryans and Mario Williams, you are all completely worthless. Step it up or get the hell of the field. Texans fans are sick of watching you play like a mediocre high school team with no character or even a fair amount of talent. Thanks.

Sincerely,
A fan

Amobi Okoye, Fred Bennett, and Will Demps would politely like to ask for a little while to play with the team before being asked to leave.

[brakos82]

Andre Davis to JAX 38! :fans:

[axman40]

Sage to AD for 20

[axman40]

false start on OD

[adam]

Imagine that. Butterfingers is getting in on all of the buttery fun.

[brakos82]

Guess who dropped it? :bat:

[axman40]

Sage inc to OD

[axman40]

Sage inc to AD

[Thorn]

dropped balls stalls a lot of drives. So far, things are not looking good. Hopefully they'll pick up soon.

[GuerillaBlack]

Why didn't we try to run the ball at all during that drive?

[axman40]

Sage sacked loss of 13

[adam]

What in the hell was Pitts doing in that last play. He was just standing there as a guy blew past him. Can we admit that he isn't a starting quality lineman, now?

[b0ng]

Is that the 3rd or 4th flag thrown this drive?

[axman40]

Turk punts Jags start on their 17

[bckey]

Embarrassing game so far. If the Texans lose this game it will hurt the franchise signing free agents this off season. Please don't blow a chance to finish the season at .500 against a team of backups. Who will want to come here?

[brakos82]

Is that the 3rd or 4th flag thrown this drive?
Too many...

[axman40]

Gray to Williams for 13

[kiwitexansfan]

What in the hell was Pitts doing in that last play. He was just standing there as a guy blew past him. Can we admit that he isn't a starting quality lineman, now?

Pitts is our best lineman. Everyone makes mistakes, he doesn't make a habit of it.

[axman40]

Toefield -1 DEMECO!

[axman40]

Gray to Jones inc

[axman40]

Gray inc to Jones

[brakos82]

:goodbad:

[kiwitexansfan]

Way to get them off the field NOW

[axman40]

JJ returns punt to the 32

[Thorn]

At least the D stopped them this time. Now Sage needs to get us a TD.

[brakos82]

JJ returns punt to the 32
Lot of juking around, slipped.

[axman40]

Dayne gains for 6

[axman40]

Dayne for the 1st down and more

[Thorn]

The Dayne Train!

[brakos82]

Dayne Train! :fans:

[axman40]

Dayne for 2

[axman40]

Sage inc to Walter

[brakos82]

GOod fake Sage... inc to KW

[axman40]

Sage throw it away avoids the sack

[kiwitexansfan]

Poor start from Sage 2/7

[tulexan]

we suck

[axman40]

Turk punt s Jags muff TEXANS ball inside the 10 at the 7

[kiwitexansfan]

Andre Davis has been a special teams beast this year!!

:fans:

[axman40]

Dayne gains 5 end of 1st quater

[Brandon420tx]

The Jags special teams give us a gift.

[Thorn]

Wow. What a bonehead play by that jacksonville guy. Good for us. :whip:

[adam]

Pitts is our best lineman. Everyone makes mistakes, he doesn't make a habit of it.

If Pitts is our best lineman, than our o-line may perhaps be the worst in history. How many times have we heard "False Start, #69" since his time here? How many times has he been ran over for a ridiculous looking sack? I will give him this, he's better than Salaam. Unfortunately, that's like saying "well, he's better than Carr".

If anyone has stepped up to be our best starting lineman, it would be Brisiel. He or Winston. The right side of our line is actually above-average. Unfortunately, Flanagan, Pitts, and Salaam are all weak enough for both sides of the line.

PS. Woot! Good special teams, let's make something of it.

[brakos82]

Friggin end of quarters... :wild:

[Wolf]

wow, we are playing uninspired, lots of mental miscues

crowd seems quiet too.


maybe a TD off the bonehead play by jacksonville will get us going

[axman40]

Td Dayne!

[kiwitexansfan]

Ron Dayne Touchdown!!!

[Thorn]

Woo Hoo! The Dayne Train! :fans:

[Wolf]

lol Cross, dayne followed leach through the hole?

[tulexan]

If we win this game, it's going to be because of Dayne and Walker.

[Malloy]

ChooChoo Dayne, you're the man, man! :)

[axman40]

Now that was an impressive 7 yard drive!
:fans:

[brakos82]

If we win this game, it's going to be because of Dayne and Walker.
Or the sunlight... :shades:

[axman40]

Jags return kick to the 21

[adam]

A good job by Dayne and Leach. However, it goes back to the o-line. If you have Tivo, go back and watch the CBS replay of the TD. You'll notice that right side of the line opened up a fairly large, workable hole. As the left side was getting mowed over. Just something to note.

[kiwitexansfan]

If Pitts is our best lineman, than our o-line may perhaps be the worst in history.

Our line was the worst in history.

How many times have we heard "False Start, #69" since his time here?

Not so much lately, he has really grown as a player.


If anyone has stepped up to be our best starting lineman, it would be Brisiel. He or Winston.

Winston false starts more than Pitts easy. Brisel has played well since he's come into the starting line.



Lets go defense :d:

[b0ng]

Huge gift there. That's rare from the Jaguars. I guess that's not their regular PR guy.

[axman40]

Toefield gains 2

[axman40]

Gray to Jones for 12

[axman40]

Gray inc to Jones

[kiwitexansfan]

Huge gift there. That's rare from the Jaguars. I guess that's not their regular PR guy.

First game ever.

[axman40]

false start on 77 Jags 2nd & 15

[axman40]

Jones gains 11

[axman40]

Gray to Williams gains 2 maybe 3

[brakos82]

Gray to Williams gains 2 maybe 3
Game center says 3

[axman40]

JJ fields punt at the 4 returns to the 16

[Thorn]

Another stop by the D. There's hope for this game yet. :d:

[Brandon420tx]

Looks like Jacoby is finally back....

[brakos82]

Battle Red Baby!

[axman40]

Dayne -1

[brakos82]

Goood job Vonta.

[axman40]

Sage to Leach for 15

[Maddict5]

A good job by Dayne and Leach. However, it goes back to the o-line. If you have Tivo, go back and watch the CBS replay of the TD. You'll notice that right side of the line opened up a fairly large, workable hole. As the left side was getting mowed over. Just something to note.

really you liked that hole on daynes td? go back and take a look at dayne's td v the broncos and tell me chester sucks


actually here it is:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80514ff9

[axman40]

Dayne falls forward for 2

[axman40]

Dayne runs wide for 2

[brakos82]

More moves by Jacoby.

[axman40]

Sage to JJ gain of 14

[adam]

Damn. Jacoby finally did something.

[brakos82]

That 37 is hypnotizing...

[axman40]

Walker gains 5

[brakos82]

:fans:

[axman40]

Walker gains 14

[axman40]

Sage to AJ for 9

[adam]

Darius Walker just plays good football. He catches well and is good on the screen. Reggie who?

[brakos82]

I think we need more Battle Red Days.

[axman40]

Dayne gains 5

[axman40]

Walker gains 4

[axman40]

Sage to AJ down at the 1

[axman40]

Sage to Leach inc

[brakos82]

Inc. 2nd and goal

[axman40]

Dayne inside the 1

[brakos82]

Dayne...

[axman40]

Dayne stuffed -1

[brakos82]

Dayne it! :wild:

[brakos82]

Going for it...TD!

[axman40]

Sage to OD TD TEXANS!

[Thorn]

Yes! Yes! :whip:

[adam]

I'll be, butterfingers shows us something. Good job, kid. :)

[brakos82]

14-7 Texans

[Wolf]

dayne frustrates me.. for a big guy

I don't know who is worse Dayne or Wells as in big guys that don't run like you think they should with their body size.

[Thorn]

Good call by Kubes to go for that. Last game of the season and we ain't going to the play offs anyway, why not? That should pick up the team. :)

[Wolf]

nice TD to daniels!!!!

wish AJ could have gotten some love for his work on this drive, but I'll still take it :texflag:

[axman40]

Jags retuns kick to the Texans 49 , flag down bring it back

[axman40]

Jags get the ball at their 34

[adam]

dayne frustrates me.. for a big guy

I don't know who is worse Dayne or Wells as in big guys that don't run like you think they should with their body size.

Well, when you run to the left and the left offensive line gets burnt so badly...it's hard to drive forward, regardless of how big you are. Watch Dayne run right, watch Dayne score a TD (first scoring drive).

[Wolf]

Well, when you run to the left and the offensive line gets burnt so badly everytime you do...it's hard to drive forward regardless of how big you are. Watch Dayne run right, watch Dayne score a TD.

there are many plays, dayne seems to be in slow motion.

no burst


one thing I love about Dayne.. he holds onto the ball

[brakos82]

Spotted at the 34

[axman40]

false start on Jags

[brakos82]

Good one Maddox! :tomato:

[axman40]

Gray inc to Willford

[axman40]

Toefield gains 7

[brakos82]

Thanks a lot guys... :bat:

[axman40]

Gray to Jones down at Texans 42 gain of 22

[axman40]

The center is floating the ball back to Gray come on dline some pressure would be nice

[Thorn]

OK D, we need to preserve our lead. We get the ball first in the 2nd half, and a 21-7 lead would really help things along.

[axman40]

Gray to Jones for 11

[axman40]

Jones on the draw for 5

[adam]

You know what the most frustrating about our team? You know that they are going to miss the first tackle every play. I would almost say that we should find a a way to game plan around not being able to tackle.

[axman40]

Gray throws the screen to Jones for 7

[axman40]

Gray inc to Jones

[axman40]

Gray to Matt Jones for 13

[Thorn]

Aw crap. Their backups are beating our starters.

[axman40]

Gray to Willford TD

[fikster]

i hate our defensive strategy. no pressure at all on a backup qb

[adam]

Are we trying? I can't tell when we're on defense anymore.

[fikster]

sweet

[axman40]

AD returns the KICKOFF TD TEXANS!

[adam]

DAVIS!!! WOOHOO!

Jerome who?

[Thorn]

Andre Davis! Yes!

[Maddict5]

AD ftw!

seriously how many big plays has that guy made this yr?

[brakos82]

:tease: TOUCHDOWN ANDRE DAVIS!!! :fans: 21-14

[Wolf]

sweet!!!!

there is another 100g's for trying to resign him
:fans:

[tulexan]

I hope we can keep him. He might get expensive

[fikster]

can anyone tell me why AD isn't the number two receiver instead of 83?

[Wolf]

I thought they would squib it .. and when they kicked off, I thought "they don't respect our return game"


:tease:

[Malloy]

Damn #11 is fast :)

[brakos82]

Halftime in a couple seconds....

[axman40]

Short kickoff returned to the Jags 39

[axman40]

Gray passes to Jones gains 16

[brakos82]

No jags score... 21-14

[axman40]

Gray passes to the endzone inc

[fikster]

boulware couldn't catch a cold.. we have to get a personality on defense

[Thorn]

I hope we can keep him. He might get expensive


He's a keeper, I'm sure he'll be wearing a Texans uniform next year.

[fikster]

He's a keeper, I'm sure he'll be wearing a Texans uniform next year.

i agree. i think rick smith will definitely get him taken care of early.

[Thorn]

In retrospect, our offense needs to pick it up in the 2nd half. We got one TD by a good drive, one by a gimme, and another they had nothing to do with.

[brakos82]

Nobody's posted in any other thread in about an hour or so.

[Marcus]

can anyone tell me why AD isn't the number two receiver instead of 83?

Simple. Because 83 is the better receiver. Gets open more, runs better routes, and never drops the football.

[fikster]

In retrospect, our offense needs to pick it up in the 2nd half. We got one TD by a good drive, one by a gimme, and another they had nothing to do with.

the whole team needs to pick it up. the defense is getting outplayed by the second string q and running backs.

[junior]

I think Davis just sealed Mathis' fate, Davis can return but he also can catch a ball.

[Brandon420tx]

Simple. Because 83 is the better receiver. Gets open more, runs better routes, and never drops the football.

and he blocks really well for a reciever. I consider him our version of Wes Welker.

[Thorn]

I think Davis just sealed Mathis' fate, Davis can return but he also can catch a ball.


I think Mathis is gone.

[GuerillaBlack]

and he blocks really well for a reciever. I consider him our version of Wes Welker.
Maybe it is because they wear the same number.

[b0ng]

I think Davis just sealed Mathis' fate, Davis can return but he also can catch a ball.

Pretty much. Andre` Davis has ended Mathis's career as a Texan. I just wish there was some team silly enough to give up a draft pick for him :(

Also, as much as we all love Davis, I think Walters finds himself open a lot more, and is pretty sure handed as well as being a great blocker.

The defense needs to get on the ball quickly or this is going to be ugly in the second half.

[Thorn]

Also, as much as we all love Davis, I think Walters finds himself open a lot more, and is pretty sure handed as well as being a great blocker.

I agree. If Davis is resigned and with JJ in the mix, we have at least one position on the team that can be ignored during the off season.

[brakos82]

OK- here we go! :fans:

[brakos82]

BACK-TO-BACK TOUCHDOWNS!!! :fans:

[fikster]

Simple. Because 83 is the better receiver. Gets open more, runs better routes, and never drops the football.

gets open more and runs better routes? i don't know about that. i believe the only reason he is starting is because he has the bigger contract. Davis is a playmaker and should be on the field.

as evidenced by his second kickoff return he just had.

[Thorn]

Oh. My. God. Davis is putting on a show.

Wow. Just Wow.

[brakos82]

ANDRE DAVIS!!! 104 YARDS!!! :fans:

[Wolf]

up to 1/2 a mill more now on resigning?

bye Mathis,davis ran you out of town because you can't stay healthy

[Brandon420tx]

Maybe it is because they wear the same number.

Well ...

A while back I made a post comparing the Patriots Recievers to ours.

Randy Moss/ Andre Johnson = The Star
Wes Welker/ Kevin Walter = Utility Man
Donte Stallworth/ Andre Davis = Deep Threat
Ben Watson/ Owen Daniels = Receiving TE.

The things the Pats have that we don't (On offense):
Recieving Running Back = Kevin Faulk
HB/FB Hybrid = Heath Evans
4th Reciever = Jabar Gaffney

Things we have that the Pats do not have (On offense):
Punishing blocking FB = Vonta Leach
WR with great Potential = Jacoby Jones
Our players are all younger.

[b0ng]

Why is the defensive line getting so dominated today? Are they just throwing out a million guys at Williams and the rest of the line is just not dominating any 1 on 1's?

I have been drinking a little so I haven't really seen what was really going on.

[Malloy]

LOL, great start :)

AD player of the year ? :)

[Edit] ups, meant player of the match.

[adam]

Andre Davis. Our best offseason aquisition. Who'd of thunk it?

[TheIronDuke]

AD is playing out of his mind today!

[bo orlando]

okay, i'm not watching this game so i didn't see the AD return, but considering that the texans have been getting consistent big returns on kickoffs the last three years with different returners (even dexter wynn had some big returns), shouldn't we give most of the credit to joe marciano's coaching of that unit and the solid play of guys like faggins, cook, and clark?

that's not to take away too much from AD. it's pretty damn hard to break one for a touchdown, much less two, but i think major props are in order for marciano and the rest of the unit above all.

[brakos82]

I think I'll get a Davis jersey when I get back...

[TheIronDuke]

okay, i'm not watching this game so i didn't see the AD return, but considering that the texans have been getting consistent big returns on kickoffs the last three years with different returners (even dexter wynn had some big returns), shouldn't we give most of the credit to joe marciano's coaching of that unit and the solid play of guys like faggins, cook, and clark?

that's not to take away too much from AD. it's pretty damn hard to break one for a touchdown, much less two, but i think major props are in order for marciano and the rest of the unit above all.

Marciano is one of the best ST coaches in the NFL. So of course he gets credit especially when you consider that we've returned twice as many kickoffs for TD's today than the Bucs have returned in their franchise's history.

[brakos82]

Anderson with the sack!

[brakos82]

Meco's leg delfected the pass.

[Thorn]

And the D stops them.

[b0ng]

And the D stops them.

That's awesome. I ask what happened to the D and they come up with the stop.

[Thorn]

A long drive and a TD would be really nice right now.

[Brandon420tx]

Momentum is ours, thank you Andre Davis.

[brakos82]

Well, ask again. :shades:

[Malloy]

JJ is a threat, he might be looking a bit rattled, but he's ready to burn down the field as soon as he sees a hole. 3 returns for TD game ? :)

[Porky]

Andre Davis!!!!!:splits: :splits: :splits:

[brakos82]

Dayne!

[brakos82]

Andre Davis!!!!!:splits: :splits: :splits:
Slowpoke. :tease:

[fikster]

i finally agree with a cbs commentator about the defense becoming a bully.

[tulexan]

I'd like to see Walker get a TD this game

[brakos82]

Slowpoke. :tease:
29 yard line... gain of 1 (Walker)

[brakos82]

Forgot to turn of the quote thing.

2nd-9 Leach for 3

[fikster]

do you guys think the Texans will cut Ahman Green? I mean Walker looks pretty good and Chris Taylor coming back, what do you guys think about our RB's next year?

[brakos82]

AJ's helmet came off... :wild:

[brakos82]

TOUCHDOWN RON DAYNE!!! :fans:

[Thorn]

The Dayne train is HOT today.

[brakos82]

I would say sit the starters, but half the starters are injured... :wild:

[mancunian]

TD TEXANS. we OWN these Jags.

[GuerillaBlack]

do you guys think the Texans will cut Ahman Green? I mean Walker looks pretty good and Chris Taylor coming back, what do you guys think about our RB's next year?
I'm fairly confident with Dayne, Walker, and Taylor. I think they can get it done.

[adam]

Against back ups or not, we are actually playing football today.

[Thorn]

I'm fairly confident with Dayne, Walker, and Taylor. I think they can get it done.


dump Green, get some O lineman, and go with it.

[b0ng]

do you guys think the Texans will cut Ahman Green? I mean Walker looks pretty good and Chris Taylor coming back, what do you guys think about our RB's next year?

No, he's got too much money, and too many previous outstanding performances from earlier in his career to get completely jettisoned after 1 year.

He will fight for his spot on the roster I imagine though. I think that his real danger is he might become 2nd string or be below somebody on the depth chart.

Ron Dayne sweet.

[brakos82]

Whose this Cox guy? :shades:

[tulexan]

I think we are going to bring in a young running back to be the starter (draft or FA), Dayne will be the backup, and Walker and Taylor will fight for the last spot.

[adam]

I'm fairly confident with Dayne, Walker, and Taylor. I think they can get it done.

I agree with this. If this carries to next year, I see no reason to get a new RB. Build that secondary and o-line. We need those more than we need a RB.

[brakos82]

Seneca's starting for Seattle. :shades: This should be fun to watch.

[Thorn]

I agree with this. If this carries to next year, I see no reason to get a new RB. Build that secondary and o-line. We need those more than we need a RB.

Our RB situation is serviceable for an 8-8 team. With a good O line they'll be somewhat better. In the long run, we need a good RB. But the O line and the defensive backs need to come first.

[brakos82]

Smells like smoked fish in Miami... :user:

[adam]

Our RB situation is serviceable for an 8-8 team. With a good O line they'll be somewhat better. In the long run, we need a good RB. But the O line and the defensive backs need to come first.

Dayne will not last forever (unfortunately), but I've seen enough from Walker and Taylor to give them a chance to carry the load next year as we build our very weak spots. Hell, if Walker keeps playing the way he is...he could be that good RB of our future. He's got some pretty strong skills.

[adam]

Smells like smoked fish in Miami... :user:

I would say it smells more like Tuna. Red hot Tuna.

[fikster]

I think we are going to bring in a young running back to be the starter (draft or FA), Dayne will be the backup, and Walker and Taylor will fight for the last spot.

if taylor comes back healthy after only playing one year and walker after the same, we could do some damage if we improve the line. wouldn't that fit into kubiak's philosphy of system running backs?