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Marcus
12-10-2007, 11:25 AM
Did you boo the pick?

Be honest now.

santo
12-10-2007, 11:31 AM
I was disappointed at first because I wanted Bush.

I was then disppointed that they didn't take Young.


But I said to myself, they know what they're doing. I will trust them.

I remember I was upset at the pick, but then got happy when they took Ryans in the 2nd.

TexansLucky13
12-10-2007, 11:39 AM
Why would you boo? They announced it the night before. I got all my frustration out on that day.

I, just like most people, wanted Reggie.... and I was wrong. I will happily point that out. I have never been more willing to admit my mistake when it comes to the '06 draft.

We really got a diamond out of Mario.

*edit*

I also like to point out how happy I was that we didn't take Vince. Thank God.

HOU-TEX
12-10-2007, 11:48 AM
I was caught off-guard, but never dissed the pick. I know I didn't want VY or Bush. I wanted a trade back scenerio where we drafted AJ Hawk. We still went defense, so I was satisfied. Even though I hadn't heard much about Mario at the time. lol

I was very happy with the D-Ryans pick. I happen to watch Alabama play alot that year and he and their defense was special. He also almost singlehandedly beat Texas Tech in their bowl game.

The remainder of the 06 draft was great too. By far the best draft in the Texans short history.

:texflag:

eriadoc
12-10-2007, 11:51 AM
I cheered when I heard the news the night before. They didn't take the guy I wanted (Ferguson), but they took my #2 choice. My list, without regard to draft positional value, was Ferguson, Mario, Hawk, a QB (Cutler/VY), anyone else in the draft, undrafted free agents, then maybe Reggie Bush.

Errant Hothy
12-10-2007, 12:12 PM
Why would you boo? They announced it the night before. I got all my frustration out on that day.

I, just like most people, wanted Reggie.... and I was wrong. I will happily point that out. I have never been more willing to admit my mistake when it comes to the '06 draft.


That's about the same for me. My wife was really shocked that I didn't go balastic again when they announced the pick ( I went nuts when I heard the news on Friday night).

I barely remember hearing the rest of the picks, as I was deep in several arguemments here on the board.

Texan_Bill
12-10-2007, 12:23 PM
I didn't boo at the draft party, but I nearly had an accident while driving the night before whenever the radio announced that the Texans were taking Mario...

I thought it about it for a little bit - and then realized it was an okay pick.

TexansFight
12-10-2007, 12:32 PM
I just moved back to Houston the week before and dragged my wife down to Reliant just for the purpose of booing the pick. I couldn't believe the news the night before. I was pissed that we were not taking Vince but was starting to get excited about RB. I thought we had really screwed the pooch and that Casserley was giving us the finger before going out.

bah007
12-10-2007, 12:35 PM
I wanted VY up until Carr's contract was extended & then I decided on Mario or a trade back for Ferguson. I probably would have been satisfied with anyone besides Bush.

I was very happy with the D-Ryans pick. I happen to watch Alabama play alot that year and he and their defense was special. He also almost singlehandedly beat Texas Tech in their bowl game.


I'm in the same boat. I watch Bama a lot & I couldnt believe that Ryans fell through the 1st round.

My list, without regard to draft positional value, was Ferguson, Mario, Hawk, a QB (Cutler/VY), anyone else in the draft, undrafted free agents, then maybe Reggie Bush.

Pretty much my list as well.

Yankee_In_TX
12-10-2007, 12:41 PM
Why would you boo? They announced it the night before. I got all my frustration out on that day.

I, just like most people, wanted Reggie.... and I was wrong. I will happily point that out. I have never been more willing to admit my mistake when it comes to the '06 draft.

We really got a diamond out of Mario.

*edit*

I also like to point out how happy I was that we didn't take Vince. Thank God.

Ditto, ditto, and ditto. But once I heard we picked Mario the night before, I though - "maybe ESPN just brainwashed me) and, well, the had.

The problem was we had a #1 pick. It's a curse. If you have a top 5 pick, unless your pick performs at pro bowl level his first and/or second year, wasnt he overpriced/overrated?

281
12-10-2007, 12:48 PM
i wasn't at the draft party, but i was very, very upset the day before the draft when i found out. i feel much, much better now.

Nawzer
12-10-2007, 12:49 PM
I was dissapointed that we took Mario Williams. I wasn't for drafting Vince Young (even though I've been following him since his high school days) but I was hoping for Reggie Bush. But I soon moved on and after I saw him play last season I saw the potential. I remember saying last year that it wasn't Mario Williams' fault for us being a bad team but he's going to be one of the main reasons we'll be a good team when we do. And the last 3 or 4 weeks Mario has been superb and yesterday's game was probably his best in his short career. I'm hoping this upward trend for him and the defense continues. It was a blast watching this defense get after it.

aj.
12-10-2007, 12:59 PM
Yes I was at the draft party and since I'm too lazy to reconstruct those thoughts, I thought I'd just copy/paste a link to what I wrote that afternoon: (no I didn't boo the pick)
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=2464

Keep in mind that those articles are edited by the Texans so the paragraph where I talk about Justice's article is not intact wrt what I submitted to them. I recall being a lot more descriptive of the Justice article in that paragraph - and discussing his calling out McNair as an idiyot or something to that effect.

bah007
12-10-2007, 01:08 PM
I just dont understand how everybody in the country got sucked up into all the Reggie Bush hype.

Just from watching tape on the guy in college, I KNEW what kind of player he would be in the NFL.

Now if I can disect a player on my VCR, then how can ESPN watch this kid's tapes on all their hi-tech equipment with all of their "experts" watching and be so wrong?

Yankee_In_TX
12-10-2007, 01:36 PM
I just dont understand how everybody in the country got sucked up into all the Reggie Bush hype.


That's what I said over and over and over........

Then, at some point about one, two weeks before the draft, the hype had me sold. Then after we picked Mario, I realized, "Oh yeah, for the last few months I've been telling people I don't want him because he's not an every down NFL RB."

It can get the best of us, lol.

beerlover
12-10-2007, 01:38 PM
what was the point going, it was all over the news Texans ink Mario Williams, anti-climatic & not a very popular pick @ the time.

Kubiak dug the hole deeper by retaining Carr, telling Bob McNair David had all the tools to become the franchise QB with the proper support. then they passed on an offensive playmaker (Reggie Bush) to compliment his game & a legit LT (D'Brickashaw Ferguson) to protect him.

under those cirmstances it was a "off pick" now with David gone they have successfully addressed the defensive line with back to back to back 1st rd, picks thats why the Amobi pick was such a good one, even struggling Okoye has helped free up Mario (limiting double teams) making Mario more of a playmaker in one on one situations.

from a value standpoint judged strictly on draftable ratings Mario was neck & neck with Reggie, not as big of drop off as some say. having said all that Mario has now more impact on this franchise than any other player & thats a positive considering the circumstances less than two years ago :)

4Texans
12-10-2007, 01:40 PM
I was not at the draft party, but I didn't boo the pick, though I was unsure about it. I really didn't know a lot about Mario at the time, and hadn't seen any film on the guy. After I thought about and started seeing high lights, I understood why they picked him. I could definitely see at the time that he could be the best pick in the long haul.

The guy continues to improve. He's definitely starting to make a difference.

Second Honeymoon
12-10-2007, 01:57 PM
I'm in the same boat. I watch Bama a lot & I couldnt believe that Ryans fell through the 1st round.

No doubt. SEC is far and away the best conference both in talent and in entertainment value. He would just make play after play at Bama. I remember preseason mock drafts before the 2005 college football season that had DeMeco as a Top 10 pick. it kinda took the 'sting' off the Mario decision and showed how far elite linebackers can fall in the draft.

A lot of fans on other team's boards are lamenting passing on Ryans in the 1st Round....I bet Dallas would rather have DeMeco Ryans than Bobby freaking Carpenter at #18 overall...I remember scratching my head over that pick by Big D. Good player but a big reach that early. Carpenter can't even get on the field for the Cowboys.

SheTexan
12-10-2007, 02:04 PM
No, I did not boo the pick. I didn't want either RB or VY, but, I was a little disappointed we didn't target D'B Fergerson. BUT, I felt the power's that be SHOULD know what they were doing, and it looks like they did. When I saw the size of Mario when he stood on that stage, I thought, WOW that is one big SOLID dude!

Tailgate
12-10-2007, 02:28 PM
Man, I gotta say... after being in COUNTLESS debates and defending the pick with logical reasoning only to be laughed at over and over.... its starting to feel pretty good. Keep up the good work Mario.

buddyboy
12-10-2007, 02:33 PM
Honestly, I wanted MW all the way, but after the Weaver signing, I resigned myself to accepting the Reggie Bush pick. Neither VY nor RB seemed to be able to succeed in the NFL, and I'm a firm believer in builidng the defense.

disaacks3
12-10-2007, 02:35 PM
Did you boo the pick?

Be honest now.
Yep, I was there and NO I didn't boo the pick (and was ashamed at those who did).

I'll be honest that I thought Reggie Bush would've been more logical (Given Kubiak's background), but we needed a pass-rusher, plain-and-simple.

HOU-TEX
12-10-2007, 02:36 PM
No, I did not boo the pick. I didn't want either RB or VY, but, I was a little disappointed we didn't target D'B Fergerson. BUT, I felt the power's that be SHOULD know what they were doing, and it looks like they did. When I saw the size of Mario when he stood on that stage, I thought, WOW that is one big SOLID dude!

LOL! I'm right there with you. I'm 6'5" 245lbs and when I was up next to him while he was signing, I was shocked. I just stood there looking him over (I'm straight, I promise) and remember thinking "man how can somebody of this stature not be a badass".

He's getting better every week and I'm very happy for him. :d:

scourge
12-10-2007, 02:44 PM
I was there and honestly did not boo. Mario was my 2nd pick behind VY... I would've preferred that they surprise us that day though, instead of telling us the night before.

however, I did boo the Travis Johnson pick and still say he was a bad choice. That was the only time i've actually "booed" any pick at the stadium.

Texans_Chick
12-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Did you boo the pick?

Be honest now.

No.

I made a T-shirt in support of the pick, but I let my friend wear it because it looked better on her.

Not everyone booed. There were some jacks who were there who booed, but there were people there buying jerseys.

My thoughts at the time as put on the Chronic FanBlog Texans (http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/2006/05/answer_mario_williams_reggie_b_1.html)

(The summary, once Carr's option was taken, VY wasn't a choice. Even if VY was the choice, had questions on whether he was a good fit for the Texans--if you are building a team, do you want to get a pick that makes it all about one guy, one guy who will be learning and maybe isn't the best fit for a complicated system offense? I was happy when Reggie Bush was not taken because I didn't like him as an NFL running back--especially for an offense that really emphasizes downhill running--even when they can't really do it. Happy that we took defense and specifically Mario).

I think more fans would have been happier about the Mario choice had the media, and specifically the Houston media been more fair about just objectively talking about his background. All the local media said was that he was a physical freak and that the Texans were stupid for not taking Young or Bush. If that is all I knew of Mario, I wouldn't have liked the pick either, but I researched him myself, even asking for feedback from people who actually saw him play. Imagine that.

The ultimate Mario Williams compendium (http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/2006/06/the_ultimate_mario_williams_co_1.html)


Mario Williams compendium, part II (http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/2006/06/mario_williams_compendium_part_1.html)

I didn't want the local media to pump up the pick. I just wanted some reasoned, logical factual information. But at least the local media hated the pick, and then they all went on vacation.

Look at that 2005 defensive roster. It was awful. The Texans made a pick that took some stones, but it was the pick that they needed to do given the circumstances at the time of the draft.

Hookem Horns
12-10-2007, 03:07 PM
I was laughing the night before the draft when I learned they were going to draft Mario. Not because I thought the pick was a joke, it was because I was thinking of all those nauseating pro Bush people that were everywhere. After seeing the Rose Bowl I KNEW Bush was going to be a bust at the NFL level. I couldn't stomach the fact of him coming here. Looking back I think I was pretty right on with most of my thoughts at the time (knowing Carr was a bust, thinking Bush would be a bust, feeling we needed a QB, etc.). Of course I was wanting VY however by the time the draft rolled around I had pretty much accepted it wasn't going to be him. If I was wrong about anything that draft year it could be him. He might bust out also, however we need more time to determine that.

So far out of the 3 you have to say Mario is the best guy. However both QBs and DEs take a good while to really develop so the jury is still out on Mario and VY. However most great backs produce and show signs from their rookie season on (Earl Campbell, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, etc). Bush hasn't even show a flash of anything so I am pretty comfortable in thinking I was right about him.

Texans_Chick
12-10-2007, 03:09 PM
Yep, I was there and NO I didn't boo the pick (and was ashamed at those who did).

I'll be honest that I thought Reggie Bush would've been more logical (Given Kubiak's background), but we needed a pass-rusher, plain-and-simple.

Denver style backs do not put a premium on pure speed. They need to run between the tackles and make quick decisions. They need to get positive yardage and not dance around in the backfield.

I think Kubiak could have found ways to use Bush, but he is the opposite of a prototypical Denver style back.

The Texans have been playing make-do at running back while putting together other parts of the team. They thought Ahman Green could be that placeholder, but obviously that didn't work out.

Texan_Bill
12-10-2007, 03:10 PM
1. He's more of a stud that the guy drafted before him.

2. Most elite college guys get free cars, hookers, and drugs

3. There is a trophy that he won, forgot the name.

4. See 1-3

----When comparing the Williams draft choice over Bush.---


Can you name the poster?!?

Texans_Chick
12-10-2007, 03:11 PM
So far out of the 3 you have to say Mario is the best guy. However both QBs and DEs take a good while to really develop so the jury is still out on Mario and VY. However most great backs produce and show signs from their rookie season on (Earl Campbell, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, etc). Bush hasn't even show a flash of anything so I am pretty comfortable in thinking I was right about him.


Bush reportedly has played hurt for part of this season. Of course, he is a little thin in the legs for a running back, so maybe that wasn't unforseen.

Injuries can derail any career, but yeah, I wasn't a fan of Bush as the pick.

awtysst
12-10-2007, 05:00 PM
Did you boo the pick?

Be honest now.

I was living in Chicago at the time and was at a buddies place with a bunch of people watching the draft. As the Houston pick was announced I stood up. As Mario's name was read, I cheered wildly. I am a big supporter of building a strong Defense and you can imagine how I was when I saw Demeco was not taken 32 in the first round and how loud I became when we picked him.

That said, I was in the trade down group. At the time I had serious reservations about Bush, wanted Young(but knew we would not extend Carr and take Young) and felt that D-Brick might be a good pick but didnt want to take him first.

I would have been fine dropping down to 6 or 7 and taking Micahel Huff as a FS, taking Demeco in the 2nd, plus getting an extra second and third. I would have taken Marcus McNeill(LT) in the 2nd with my extra second, then taken Leonard Pope(TE) with my first 3rd, Eric Winston with my second third, and the Jerious Norwood with my 3rd third.

But as it is, Mario, Meco, Winston, and Spencer is still a pretty good first day haul.

bah007
12-10-2007, 05:18 PM
I was living in Chicago at the time and was at a buddies place with a bunch of people watching the draft. As the Houston pick was announced I stood up. As Mario's name was read, I cheered wildly. I am a big supporter of building a strong Defense and you can imagine how I was when I saw Demeco was not taken 32 in the first round and how loud I became when we picked him.

That said, I was in the trade down group. At the time I had serious reservations about Bush, wanted Young(but knew we would not extend Carr and take Young) and felt that D-Brick might be a good pick but didnt want to take him first.

I would have been fine dropping down to 6 or 7 and taking Micahel Huff as a FS, taking Demeco in the 2nd, plus getting an extra second and third. I would have taken Marcus McNeill(LT) in the 2nd with my extra second, then taken Leonard Pope(TE) with my first 3rd, Eric Winston with my second third, and the Jerious Norwood with my 3rd third.

But as it is, Mario, Meco, Winston, and Spencer is still a pretty good first day haul.

I was secretly hoping this a little bit too, but I definitely cant complain about what the Texans accomplished in that draft.

FILO_girl
12-10-2007, 05:33 PM
No booing here, like disaacks3...was somewhat torqued at those who did, IIRC.

Wouldn't it be great to bring back that time period and re visit those lovely threads....:gun:

bah007
12-10-2007, 05:41 PM
No booing here, like disaacks3...was somewhat torqued at those who did, IIRC.

Wouldn't it be great to bring back that time period and re visit those lovely threads....:gun:

For the most part, it seemed like the only people who were at the draft party were the ones booing.

Or maybe the media only wanted to show those certain individuals.

TEXANS84
12-10-2007, 05:59 PM
I was at home, not willing to drive in a thunderstorm all the way downtown to hear a pick I already knew.

Yeah, I was upset. I wanted Bush. But once Mario was made the pick, I accepted it and welcomed him as a Texan just like any player that gets drafted to our team.

jerek
12-10-2007, 06:09 PM
I knew in advance they were picking Mario and liked the pick. I saw him as a ridiculously talented athlete whose skills would need polish before he was truly "ready" to play in the NFL, though I was okay with waiting as much 1-2 years for those results. Bush may also be an exceptionally talented athlete, but he does not have the vision nor IMO the work ethic to make that useful in the NFL.

I was there and did not boo, though fortunately I think their prior announcement meant a lot of the bozos that would've been there booing ended up staying home instead.

Thorn
12-10-2007, 06:20 PM
I wasnít at the draft party, but I remember Monday at work afterwards. There were folks at work that were literally pissed as hell about us not taking Bush. Some of these folks anger was worse than if someone had ran into their car. It was like personal anger for them. I went to work somewhat upset we didnít take Vince Young, but after listening to all the Bush crybabies I started defending the Mario pick just to piss them off. That was a bad mistake on my part, and Iíve been listening to their crapolla ever since.

But lately theyíve been rather quiet for some reason. LOL

Rex King
12-11-2007, 12:27 AM
Wasn't at the party, but I supported the pick. I honestly didn't know much about him besides his stats and combine numbers. But no to VY after the Carr extension, and I didn't think RB could be a between-the-tackles feature back. He had receivers' legs. Also had concerns about D'Brick being able to keep on the weight according to various reports. For hindsight, for those who wanted to take A.J. Hawk, if we had, I'm not sure DeMeco would have been there for us in the 2nd round if we had.

Joe Texan
12-11-2007, 01:25 AM
I was in Vegas and I was shocked to see we went with Mario but I cheered just as I would have had we selected Reggie or Vince. I was wanting Vince cause I am somewhat of a homer but I have been on the Mario train from day 1. I cvalled John and Lance and told them Mario was the best pick of the 06 draft class. They ribbed me and ribbed me but who is laughing now.

BigBull17
12-11-2007, 01:54 AM
Why would you boo? They announced it the night before. I got all my frustration out on that day.

I, just like most people, wanted Reggie.... and I was wrong. I will happily point that out. I have never been more willing to admit my mistake when it comes to the '06 draft.

We really got a diamond out of Mario.

*edit*

I also like to point out how happy I was that we didn't take Vince. Thank God.

I was with a friend and I was shocked that they had the Balls to do it even though it wasnt the flashy thing to do. They took their lumps and now look brilliant. What balls by the FO and Kubes.

Maddict5
12-11-2007, 08:43 AM
nobody boo'ed apparently... must've been piped in over stereos or something:pirate:

Texans_Chick
12-11-2007, 09:23 AM
It is a LIE that everyone at the draft party booed the pick.

Some people did, a lot of people didn't. The media chose to focus on the boo-ers.

This is what I wrote about this subject last year:

Texans Under Pressure: Mario Williams or David Carr (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2006/09/08/media-myths-and-texans-fans/)

The premise was that though Williams would be under scrutiny, Texans fans would show some patience with him. That the Texan that fans had absolutely no more patience for was David Carr.

This is the picture that most of the newspapers/internet folks showed from the draft party:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.aolsportsblog.com/media/2006/09/mario-williams-draft-bad.jpg

This is the picture that is in Getty Images but was rarely shown:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/sports.aol.com/fanhouse/media/2006/09/mario-williams-draft-good-2.jpg

An excerpt from what I wrote:

Most of the people I spoke to were happy about the pick, and I had one person tell me that he saw camera guys looking for the most vocal critics to put on camera but didn't want to record people supporting the pick.

This summer, the Texans held an All Access event that allowed fans to tour the stadium and get autographs. Gary Kubiak spoke to the crowd after the even and introduced some of the players. Mario Williams got the loudest cheers, and people chanting his name. You will not read anything about that in national publications because it doesn't fit the thesis of most sportswriters' articles.

A lot of fans who knew about that 2-14 team couldn't have been too upset with additional help on defense because the defense that year was horrible.