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Hookem Horns
12-02-2007, 02:17 PM
I don't know if I am ready to break out the "Fire Kubes" soap bar yet, however consistently sucking in the 3rd QTR week in and week out is a sign of bad coaching. Teams are adjusting to us at halftime and we are not returing the favor. Just look at the 3rd QTR stats in most of our games.

gtexan02
12-02-2007, 02:41 PM
There are a lot of telltale signs of bad coaching.

1. We play the same "scheme" against every opponent. We don't ever seem to gameplan to our opponent

2. If we run the ball in one game, the next week we give up on it early. Then the next week, we'll run the ball 30 times irrespective of the score or effectiveness

Its very frustrating

GP
12-02-2007, 02:41 PM
Don't you dare.

Don't you question the coach.

According to 98% of the posters here, this is just your typical "growing pains" season. You need five years to evaluate, right?

Oh, wait. That's for quarterbacks. My bad.

How hard will it be for Rick Smith to fire Kubiak? IMO, Smith has been a good hire. Kubiak? Well, I'm doubting he's going to make it.

I guess this means I'm not a real fan anymore. Dang it. :gun:

ubecool454
12-02-2007, 02:56 PM
I don't know if I am ready to break out the "Fire Kubes" soap bar yet, however consistently sucking in the 3rd QTR week in and week out is a sign of bad coaching. Teams are adjusting to us at halftime and we are not returing the favor. Just look at the 3rd QTR stats in most of our games.

gimme a break...it wasn't Kubiak that fumbled the punt or got called for holding on the fumble recovery.

adam
12-02-2007, 03:15 PM
I don't know about firing Kubiak just yet. We'll see how he does with a new set of assistant coaches (Sherman is going to A&M and I'm pretty sure that Richard Smith is a goner at the end of this season). If we look this bad next year, I think it would be an adequate time to pull the plug on the Kubiak project.

J-Russ
12-02-2007, 03:17 PM
Kubiak too busy bending over for the opposing HC to make adjustments.

Brandon420tx
12-02-2007, 03:19 PM
In all my years of watching football I have yet to understand the concept behind dropping 9 into coverage. Rushing 3 people is understandable but only rushing 2 is just inviting quarterbacks to let their play develope.

Hagar
12-02-2007, 03:20 PM
Its hard to coach a team that is physically getting whipped at the point of attack.

TexansSeminole
12-02-2007, 03:21 PM
Its hard to coach a team that is physically getting whipped at the point of attack.

Or when your punt returner fumbles it in your own territory.

rollinstone18
12-02-2007, 03:25 PM
It wasn't bad coaching that led to Boulware costing us a takeaway. Nor was it bad coaching that made Jacoby fumble a punt.

Not to mention Weary, White and Schaub all going down with injuries. This is not a game I'm going to put on Kubiak.

TexansSeminole
12-02-2007, 03:33 PM
Or how about the fact that our linebackers, aside from DeMeco, can't tackle?

The team doesn't look very well coached but at this point you have to coach a perfect game for these players to win. They mess it up at every opportunity. The major mistakes made in this game were on the players 90%.

Honoring Earl 34
12-02-2007, 03:52 PM
Or when your punt returner fumbles it in your own territory.

I had a bad feeling having Jacoby back there in wet conditions with the game on the line . I guess that's why rookies have a hard time playing on good teams .

HoustonFrog
12-02-2007, 03:54 PM
Or how about the fact that our linebackers, aside from DeMeco, can't tackle?

The team doesn't look very well coached but at this point you have to coach a perfect game for these players to win. They mess it up at every opportunity. The major mistakes made in this game were on the players 90%.

I'm not making a judgement but some would day bad tackling is part of coaching. I'm not sure where I stand on the team. Rigth now I'm slipping to indifference again.

Marcus
12-02-2007, 03:55 PM
The major mistakes made in this game were on the players 90%.

I'm stunned. No, I am shocked to the core. Somebody help me, I'm thinking I'm having a heart attack.

Someone (besides me) is actually thinking that the players were the most responsible for losing this game??


:perfect10:

TexansSeminole
12-02-2007, 03:59 PM
I'm not making a judgement but some would day bad tackling is part of coaching. I'm not sure where I stand on the team. Rigth now I'm slipping to indifference again.

That's the other 10%. Those mistakes and bad tackling can be coached but you can only coach so far.

Marcus
12-02-2007, 04:01 PM
I'm not making a judgement but some would day bad tackling is part of coaching.

And I would make a judgement that those people are ignorant. I never have understood the mentality of those that want to shift the blame to coaches in order to make their favorite players look good.

DeepSteelBlue
12-02-2007, 04:11 PM
What we have is a team of pansies...

PapaL
12-02-2007, 04:12 PM
You can only teach someone to tackle, can't tackle for them.

You can only tell someone how to react in a situation, can't react for them.

Time the players took responsibility for their own actions. Coaches call play, players execute them.

run-david-run
12-02-2007, 04:14 PM
What we have is a team of pansies...

Clearly. With insightful comments like this, so rich in analyisis and perspective, Im shocked Rick Smith has not contacted you already for a consulting job.

Dread-Head
12-02-2007, 04:15 PM
Since Sherman is going to be in the NCAA this time next year I say replace him with a lovable koala to see if it does a better job than he did. If it does than we'll know he TRULY SUCKED! Or course with the Texans' luck the Koala would do a kick-@ss job and become The Raiders head coach the following season.:user:

run-david-run
12-02-2007, 04:18 PM
This is pretty simple: turn the ball over at an inoportune moment. Drop balls on third down. Miss tackles. These are all mental errors. Guess what, we are a young, injured team with a bunch of people in situations they are not comfortable in. Mistakes are made, and we just dont have the talent, particularly on the offensive line, to recover by throwin the ball a bunch of times. We had this game in our grasp when we scored and forced a three and out. An individual error cost us, its that simple.

austintexanite
12-02-2007, 04:23 PM
Honestly, I don't think we got outcoached today. Earlier in the season I would say that we did do a p*ss poor job of managing the clock and looked like crap, but today the players shot themselves in the foot. We had momentum, but the fumbled punt hurt us.

ObsiWan
12-02-2007, 04:23 PM
I see these posts that say we were out-coached. I think we were out-manned.

- Their O-line is better than our ability to bring pressure - especially since Richard Smith refuses to blitz.
- Their D-line is better than our O-line, especially after Weary went down. That means their suspect secondary only has to cover 2-3 seconds, unlike ours that has to cover up to 4 seconds - 5 if the QB scrambles a bit.
- Our WR corps, who stepped up when AJ was out, seems to have stepped back down.
- They have 2-3 healthy, productive RBs, we have one. When LenDale White get's done banging you in the first half they bring in Chris Brown's fresh legs in the second half. We have Ron Dayne. And I think their RB productivity is also a reflection of their better O-line as much as talent at the RB position.

We're out manned. And, looking at our schedule, we will continue to be for the rest of the year. If we stay in any of the remaining games it'll be a surprise.

ObsiWan
12-02-2007, 04:26 PM
Clearly. With insightful comments like this, so rich in analyisis and perspective, Im shocked Rick Smith has not contacted you already for a consulting job.

now THAT is comedy!

:rofl:

Runner
12-02-2007, 04:28 PM
And I would make a judgement that those people are ignorant. I never have understood the mentality of those that want to shift the blame to coaches in order to make their favorite players look good.

Then they never should have gotten rid of Capers, huh? :)

Maybe the coaches actually do have some effect on the team, and the players have some too. Moving Mario around his rookie year when he wasn't ready for that may have been a coaching mistake. Mario not picking up on things too quickly, or not giving his all on every play may be a player problem. Drafting Mario after giving a big bonus to Weaver when they should play the same position may be a front office problem.

These just sum up to one example. When a team is as consistently bad as the Texans and seems to make the same mistakes game after game, year after year - then there are a lot of problems all working together.

Then again, maybe I'm just ignorant too - but I know that is too far fetched to be true. :shades:

DeepSteelBlue
12-02-2007, 04:29 PM
Clearly. With insightful comments like this, so rich in analyisis and perspective, Im shocked Rick Smith has not contacted you already for a consulting job.

Thanks! I've been waiting by the phone. If you have any connections, hook me up! :wild:

Marcus
12-02-2007, 04:35 PM
- Our WR corps, who stepped up when AJ was out, seems to have stepped back down.

We're out manned. And, looking at our schedule, we will continue to be for the rest of the year. If we stay in any of the remaining games it'll be a surprise.

Interesting observation, which I agree with. With AJ out, the ball got spread around to Walter, Davis, and the tight ends. Now, there is an AJ myopia with the QBs.

In my view, AJ should be given a finite number of plays during a game, for a variety of reasons.

Mr teX
12-02-2007, 04:55 PM
This is pretty simple: turn the ball over at an inoportune moment. Drop balls on third down. Miss tackles. These are all mental errors. Guess what, we are a young, injured team with a bunch of people in situations they are not comfortable in. Mistakes are made, and we just dont have the talent, particularly on the offensive line, to recover by throwin the ball a bunch of times. We had this game in our grasp when we scored and forced a three and out. An individual error cost us, its that simple.

QFT, i'll add to that weather conditions sometimes dictate what you feel comfortable calling but all in all, what you stated above are the main reasons we lost & continue to lose. However there are some things i think kubes needs to get better at.

For example, when you've got a d-line full of speed rushers as Tenn has, you might want to move your Qb's pocket a bit more so your QB isn't a sitting duck & those ends hold for a second. He had schaub doing this on the 1st drive & then he just stopped calling them. Schaub also needs to change his count up to force the d-line to hold back like Sage was doing.

2, have your Qb spreading the ball around a little more. Walter didn't get the ball until the 4th quarter & i believe Daniels had 1 catch on the first drive & wasn't heard from again. He's got to do a better job of giving other guys chances to make plays; give the defense something else to worry about You can't always bank on your QB being able to make it to his 2nd & 3rd reads all the time; some plays need to be called looking for Daniels/Walter/Davis 1st read & then AJ second.

I don't know if he's doing that & the Qb's are bypassing these guys looking straight for AJ every pass play, but.........

prostock101
12-02-2007, 05:00 PM
Outcoached? I don't think so.

We lose our starting QB and our starting RG and we end the game with a 3rd string RG. Dayne is a serviceable RB but he wouldn't be starting anywhere else. He's a good #2 back. We've already lost 3 DB's. Demps wasn't even in camp and Hutchins is a safety starting at CB.

We lost this game due to injuries and a rookie mistake.

Kubiak did a great job considering what he had to work with. This board however is full of former NFL coaches that can do his job better.

rollinstone18
12-02-2007, 05:02 PM
did you really have to start a new thread?

http://texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44832

adam
12-02-2007, 05:05 PM
I'm willing to give Kubiak some time. I am done with Richard Smith. No one went down on defense today, his schemes have sucked for the vast majority of the season. Our defense makes everyone look like elite players, even subpar players like Vince Young can come into our house and look like a million dollars. Yes, our defense is lacking in personnel. However, the schemes have looked worse than the players have. I'm curious to see how Kubiak does next season with a new OC and DC (Sherman is going to A&M and I'm almost certain that Smith will be history after this season).

Marcus
12-02-2007, 05:10 PM
To echo someone else . .

did you really have to start up a new thread?

http://texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=794072&postcount=1

Mods?

brakos82
12-02-2007, 05:12 PM
Kubes is good. The entire D staff needs to get the boot though. :bat:

BSofA04
12-02-2007, 05:14 PM
I second that...Kubs can stay but Richard Smith can go!

ObsiWan
12-02-2007, 05:14 PM
Interesting observation, which I agree with. With AJ out, the ball got spread around to Walter, Davis, and the tight ends. Now, there is an AJ myopia with the QBs.

In my view, AJ should be given a finite number of plays during a game, for a variety of reasons.

That's an interesting question: Are the QBs "myopic"? Do the QBs always look to AJ or is our illustrious O/C calling plays primarily for AJ?

One would think that given that the opposition usually sets out to double AJ, someone else should be open.

I wonder how often we call set plays where AJ is intentionally a decoy and Walter or Davis is the primary target....?

brakos82
12-02-2007, 05:16 PM
I second that...Kubs can stay but Richard Smith can go!
I want more than Smith... I want blood from opposing Offenses... :bat:

Maddict5
12-02-2007, 05:17 PM
growing pains everybody.. i dont know why everybody thought they'd be nice..

we're a young team and our young guys are hurting us right now as they get experience: OD, JJ, schaub (somewhat), winston, amobi (somewhat also).. bennett's done grand so far but he'll prob mess up once or twice before seasons end

ObsiWan
12-02-2007, 05:49 PM
growing pains everybody.. i dont know why everybody thought they'd be nice..

we're a young team and our young guys are hurting us right now as they get experience: OD, JJ, schaub (somewhat), winston, amobi (somewhat also).. bennett's done grand so far but he'll prob mess up once or twice before seasons end

Hey, what is the voice of sanity doing on a message board?? Someone ban this guy!

:sarcasm:

Fox
12-02-2007, 06:02 PM
Just want to add to the sentiment that I think Kubes is a good coach, but we can do better with our coordinators. My faith in him is starting to waver a bit this season, but I want him to have a third season to prove himself. He played half the season without his best offensive player, and the other half without his best defensive player. We needed to be better than we have been this year, but I still think he's part of the solution, not the problem.

TexansSeminole
12-02-2007, 06:05 PM
growing pains everybody.. i dont know why everybody thought they'd be nice..

we're a young team and our young guys are hurting us right now as they get experience: OD, JJ, schaub (somewhat), winston, amobi (somewhat also).. bennett's done grand so far but he'll prob mess up once or twice before seasons end

He messed up in this very game. On the touchdown catch, by Gage I beleive it was, he should have knocked that ball down. It was a simple jump ball pass that VY threw a little too far into the inside. Gage still managed to snag it.

I see good things out of Bennett. He is a ballhawk for sure. If you errantly throw the ball his way he will pick you off. He has good hands, he doesn't drop the easy ones. He has made some good plays on short passes and running plays by coming up and making good tackles. However he is having his rookie mistakes and showing that he is still a bit raw. There are times that he makes some really nice plays. I think it's just about learning and experiencing the game more.

I agree with you there are growing pains, but another problem is that most of our role playing veterans on defense aren't doing anything for us. Weaver has been a bad fit with this defense thus far. Our outside linebackers are also playing poor to average on a consistant basis. Boulware has been a non-factor, however Demps has contributed well, considering his situation at the beginning of the season with the elbow, at a position of serious need.

Was the Boulware-Babin trade worth it? I thought it was an interesting and exciting trade at first but I haven't seen it pay off thus far.

Wolf
12-02-2007, 06:06 PM
hopefully Bennett can continue to learn but so close
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071202/capt.f26fc74fd17749bb922035e9bd71c9e8.texans_titan s_football_tnmh111.jpg

Tennessee Titans wide receiver Justin Gage, top, catches an 11-yard touchdown pass over the reach of Houston Texans cornerback Fred Bennett (32) in the third quarter of an NFL football game in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday, Dec. 2, 2007.

ObsiWan
12-02-2007, 06:09 PM
I've been on the "Richard Smith must go" wagon since early in the year. Since TexansChick kinda pointed us in that direction about week two (maybe three). She's been saying all year that his defense does not dictate but is constantly in react mode.

TexansSeminole
12-02-2007, 06:10 PM
hopefully Bennett can continue to learn but so close

The picture doesn't exactly do it justice. Bennett barely left his feet. Edit: I should say he didn't locate it quick enough. Watch this video (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?season=2007&week=REG13&game_id=29380). I think its at about 1:30.

austintexanite
12-02-2007, 06:11 PM
Was the Boulware-Babin trade worth it? I thought it was an interesting and exciting trade at first but I haven't seen it pay off thus far.

I thought the same thing about the trade, but Boulware hasn't done/shown anything. We sorely miss another pass rusher on the d-line.

TheIronDuke
12-02-2007, 06:15 PM
Don't forget that Boulware was the one holding on a punt when we recovered a fumble, negating the whole play.

HoustonFrog
12-02-2007, 06:45 PM
And I would make a judgement that those people are ignorant. I never have understood the mentality of those that want to shift the blame to coaches in order to make their favorite players look good.

Agreed. I was just saying that is what some people say. Once you coach it up, you can only do so much,

dskillz
12-02-2007, 07:00 PM
I don't know if I am ready to break out the "Fire Kubes" soap bar yet, however consistently sucking in the 3rd QTR week in and week out is a sign of bad coaching. Teams are adjusting to us at halftime and we are not returing the favor. Just look at the 3rd QTR stats in most of our games.

More than anything, it has been rare that this team has looked ready to play this season. After the first handful of scripted plays, things turn to poo. That is coaching. I totally expect Kubiak to come tomorrow with his press conference and pinpoint what he did that cost the team the game. It happens after every loss. You hit the nail on the head though. There are no adjustments. Remember the Titans game at Reliant this season? Coach K said he had no clue that the Titans would blitz that much and he maybe should have adjusted in the 2nd half. But he didn't.

I am not saying fire Kubiak, but when the team is as talent-strapped as this team is we don't need the coaching staff to make mistakes as well. for the most part, Kubiak is about has experienced as Schaub in his position, so in reality he should be given more time. But it is hard to keep paying for what results to school.

4Texans
12-02-2007, 08:39 PM
Yeah, let's question the coaching...... Someone tell me how you coach the guys to hang on to the ball, and when we continue to turn it over, don't let the other team score. We turn the ball over more than any other team in the league, and then give up the most points off turn overs..... That's got to keep Kubes pacing the floors all night long.....

That's the one thing that has disapponited me the most this year.:wild:

Wolf
12-02-2007, 09:14 PM
The picture doesn't exactly do it justice. Bennett barely left his feet. Edit: I should say he didn't locate it quick enough. Watch this video (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?season=2007&week=REG13&game_id=29380). I think its at about 1:30.

watched the video and tough play for bennet on an underthrown ball (possibly on purpose)

i was kinda suprised no mario clips (at least one) ..if it was ESPiN, I'd understand but NFLN, was kinda suprised

BigBull17
12-03-2007, 06:46 AM
He messed up in this very game. On the touchdown catch, by Gage I beleive it was, he should have knocked that ball down. It was a simple jump ball pass that VY threw a little too far into the inside. Gage still managed to snag it.

I see good things out of Bennett. He is a ballhawk for sure. If you errantly throw the ball his way he will pick you off. He has good hands, he doesn't drop the easy ones. He has made some good plays on short passes and running plays by coming up and making good tackles. However he is having his rookie mistakes and showing that he is still a bit raw. There are times that he makes some really nice plays. I think it's just about learning and experiencing the game more.

I agree with you there are growing pains, but another problem is that most of our role playing veterans on defense aren't doing anything for us. Weaver has been a bad fit with this defense thus far. Our outside linebackers are also playing poor to average on a consistant basis. Boulware has been a non-factor, however Demps has contributed well, considering his situation at the beginning of the season with the elbow, at a position of serious need.

Was the Boulware-Babin trade worth it? I thought it was an interesting and exciting trade at first but I haven't seen it pay off thus far.

Yeah, Bennet could have picked off the second TD pass if he just got his head around. He wasnt playing the ball and had an easy play if he sees it coming. He also could have picked off a similar pass later. But hey, he is a rookie and one of the few bright spots in our secondary this year, so Im ok with it.

Brandon420tx
12-03-2007, 09:27 AM
Yeah, Bennet could have picked off the second TD pass if he just got his head around. He wasnt playing the ball and had an easy play if he sees it coming. He also could have picked off a similar pass later. But hey, he is a rookie and one of the few bright spots in our secondary this year, so Im ok with it.

True, but if he had been looking at the QB and not the reciever Young lobs it over him to the back of the endzone for the TD anyway. He played the coverage pretty well, he was just a step in front of the pass.

Mr. White
12-03-2007, 09:34 AM
Was anyone really surprised that the Titans were looking to kill our QB again?

I wasn't.

Was anyone surprised that they did it?

I wasn't.

Was anyone surprised that Dayne had a good YPC average again and was not getting enough carries? Again?

I wasn't.

True that players have to execute, but coaches have to put them in a position to execute. We were outcoached. Again. By the same game plan as last time.

Dunno about you guys, but I'm tired of being Jeff Fisher's *****. I'm tired of holding onto his pocket and scoring cigarettes for him.

The Texans need real coordinators. Jim Bates my have wanted too much control as DC, but at least he had experience running a unit. Troy Calhoun was the OC in name only last year. Mike Sherman should have run Kubiak's offense instead of bastardizing it.

</rant>

santo
12-03-2007, 09:52 AM
Though I agree that coaching was less of a factor in this game, I still blame the coaches for not starting people when they should have.

Bennett: Why was he on the bench for so long? He could have been starting by week 2 or 3 instead of allowing Faggins to be the starter every week. He coud have been learning more as the weeks gone by. Eventhough Bennett is a rookie, he has made more plays than mistakes, imo.

Demps: This guy impresses me. He's a ballhawk. He made a lot of tackles when they flew by CC Brown. Surpirses me that he wasn't starting at least two weeks after they signed him.

These 2 guys have some skills.

Just wish the coaches can utilize these guys more with Mario, Okoye, and Demeco on the field, such as more blitzing.

Texans_Chick
12-03-2007, 09:53 AM
I see these posts that say we were out-coached. I think we were out-manned.

- Their O-line is better than our ability to bring pressure - especially since Richard Smith refuses to blitz.
- Their D-line is better than our O-line, especially after Weary went down. That means their suspect secondary only has to cover 2-3 seconds, unlike ours that has to cover up to 4 seconds - 5 if the QB scrambles a bit.
- Our WR corps, who stepped up when AJ was out, seems to have stepped back down.
- They have 2-3 healthy, productive RBs, we have one. When LenDale White get's done banging you in the first half they bring in Chris Brown's fresh legs in the second half. We have Ron Dayne. And I think their RB productivity is also a reflection of their better O-line as much as talent at the RB position.

We're out manned. And, looking at our schedule, we will continue to be for the rest of the year. If we stay in any of the remaining games it'll be a surprise.


Well said. Especially as it relates to the running back position.

Also as a general rule, if you are a team that depends on rookies and inexperienced players for many key positions, you are a team that is going to make a lot of mistakes. They are trying to build at different areas of the team, but there are so many positions to upgrade.

There are assistant coaches I might want to see if I could upgrade, but I've seen enough from Kubiak to think that generally he is going in the right direction. I know there is a lot of disappointment after the early season success, but personally, looking at this roster and who is still healthy, I don't think they are underachieving.

For example, who on this roster do you think could go to the Pro Bowl if they maxed out their abilities? Scary small list.

Texans_Chick
12-03-2007, 09:54 AM
Though I agree that coaching was less of a factor in this game, I still blame the coaches for not starting people when they should have.

Bennett: Why was he on the bench for so long? He could have been starting by week 2 or 3 instead of allowing Faggins to be the starter every week. He coud have been learning more as the weeks gone by. Eventhough Bennett is a rookie, he has made more plays than mistakes, imo.

Demps: This guy impresses me. He's a ballhawk. He made a lot of tackles when they flew by CC Brown. Surpirses me that he wasn't starting at least two weeks after they signed him.

These 2 guys have some skills.

Just wish the coaches can utilize these guys more with Mario, Okoye, and Demeco on the field, such as more blitzing.

Bennett was coming off an injury early in the season.

santo
12-03-2007, 09:57 AM
Bennett was coming off an injury early in the season.


true, forgot about that. :)

Texans_Chick
12-03-2007, 05:01 PM
The Texans need real coordinators. Jim Bates my have wanted too much control as DC, but at least he had experience running a unit. Troy Calhoun was the OC in name only last year. Mike Sherman should have run Kubiak's offense instead of bastardizing it.

</rant>

Ask Denver fans what they think of Jim Bates.

Today, at least one Denver columnist (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7619763) is thinking that that was a poor hire by Shanahan.

John McClain liked the Richard Smith hire. So he will be the last one to really criticize it.

It was a bad time to be defensive coordinator shopping.

Specnatz
12-03-2007, 05:19 PM
Ask Denver fans what they think of Jim Bates.

Today, at least one Denver columnist (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7619763) is thinking that that was a poor hire by Shanahan.

John McClain liked the Richard Smith hire. So he will be the last one to really criticize it.
It was a bad time to be defensive coordinator shopping.

This is just another reason I hate most sports writers today. They voice their opinion and say what they like and dislike on players, Coaches, and everything else up to and including the clothing. But when something they have always wanted and liked has not worked they do not say hey ya know I was wrong but instead the beat the drum harder and louder.

Heck, I see a lot of that here. I admit, or at least try to, when I say I did not like this player and he turns out to be good (unless it is in the smack talk section :user: ) or vice versa.

It seems the Houston Chronicle has a bunch of these type of writers, especially when it comes to football talk. Now I can say which coordinators and coaches I like and dislike; but I would love to have a real analyst of our coordinators and coaches from someone out side of the organization, but I think that is asking for something I will never get to see.

Double Barrel
12-03-2007, 05:39 PM
I don't know if I am ready to break out the "Fire Kubes" soap bar yet, however consistently sucking in the 3rd QTR week in and week out is a sign of bad coaching. Teams are adjusting to us at halftime and we are not returing the favor. Just look at the 3rd QTR stats in most of our games.

Hearing that the last time we scored in the 3rd qtr. was week 2 really makes me wonder about our gameplans and halftime adjustments.

I'm not one to advocate firing our HC right now, but it's obvious that he's got a learning curve just like the rookie players in the league. Kubiak tends to take the blame after every loss, but I'm not sure if he's just covering up for his players or if he's really responsible for so much of it.

I'm sort of on the fence about motivation, simply because these players get paid big jack to be professional athletes. It seems to me that they should be self-motivated, but maybe a HC can add that extra mindset to seal the deal.

And I would make a judgement that those people are ignorant. I never have understood the mentality of those that want to shift the blame to coaches in order to make their favorite players look good.

I tend to put the burden on the players, as well. However, when a professional sports team fails at the fundamentals of the game - i.e. holding on to the ball and making tackles - I can't help but wonder if our staff stresses these angles during the week. There are drills that cover the fundamentals, and from everything that I've read/heard, they make a difference when teams focus on them to avoid costly mistakes.

We are not good enough of a team to overcome shooting ourselves in the foot.

Rex King
12-03-2007, 06:15 PM
Was anyone really surprised that the Titans were looking to kill our QB again?

I wasn't.

Was anyone surprised that they did it?

I wasn't.

Was anyone surprised that Dayne had a good YPC average again and was not getting enough carries? Again?

I wasn't.

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Most of the time it seems we can only get enough time to protect the QB on play-action. The Titans weren't biting - they didn't the last game either. And same as last game, we were getting killed early on 5 to 7 step drops. I put a lot of this on poor o-line protection, but we know we have problems against the Titans pass rush.

Also noticed we also got killed again on a safety (or was it corner?) blitz - I think it's happened at least three times when we're in a no-back set - not the o-line's fault. I can understand if Rosenfels can't audible, but it's happened to Schaub as well. Perhaps they just aren't recognizing it, or they can't audible out of it.

Anyway, I think both are to blame. When their front four can generate pressure, and ours can't, that's on them.

TexansSeminole
12-03-2007, 07:07 PM
Yeah, Bennet could have picked off the second TD pass if he just got his head around. He wasnt playing the ball and had an easy play if he sees it coming. He also could have picked off a similar pass later. But hey, he is a rookie and one of the few bright spots in our secondary this year, so Im ok with it.

Me too. He impresses me week by week. Alot of his mistakes are easily correctable. Solid addition to the secondary, without him it would be scary right now. It would be nice to get another player like Bennett who could contribute next year.