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J-Russ
12-02-2007, 01:39 PM
Any good one coming out this year?

b0ng
12-02-2007, 01:42 PM
Alan Fancea (old) Max Starks (2nd string, but young).

Other than that, not really.

SA Texan
12-02-2007, 01:49 PM
Faneca is getting up there in age, but I would take him in a second.

Marcus
12-02-2007, 01:50 PM
Any good one coming out this year?

Nobody worth the money that it would take to get him.

b0ng
12-02-2007, 02:19 PM
Faneca is getting up there in age, but I would take him in a second.

No way. Draft your offensive linemen. Only rarely does a decent one who isn't over the hill hits FA.

BSofA04
12-02-2007, 04:51 PM
Honestly, there's no one worth taking in FA. As we've seen, even the most intriguing FA's (ala Ahman Green) might not play as expected.

However, there's a VERY solid draft class of OT's this year. If we're looking for a long time answer (and we should be after the Ahman Green fiasco), we need to just bite the bullet and draft a LT in the first round. Take your pick....

1) Jake Long, Sam Baker (no doubt we draft them but 99.99% sure they will not be available when we pick)
2) Gosdner Cherilus, Barry Richardson, Ryan Clady, Tony Hills, Phil Loadholt

awtysst
12-02-2007, 04:54 PM
Honestly, there's no one worth taking in FA. As we've seen, even the most intriguing FA's (ala Ahman Green) might not play as expected.

However, there's a VERY solid draft class of OT's this year. If we're looking for a long time answer (and we should be after the Ahman Green fiasco), we need to just bite the bullet and draft a LT in the first round. Take your pick....

1) Jake Long, Sam Baker (no doubt we draft them but 99.99% sure they will not be available when we pick)
2) Gosdner Cherilus, Barry Richardson, Ryan Clady, Tony Hills, Phil Loadholt


Depending where we end up, we could trade down, pick an extra 3rd(maybe a second) and still get Clady.

edo783
12-02-2007, 05:52 PM
My take, don't try and get cute with a trade down (yes, we could use the extra pick) just take the best OT that is available and move on then a safety/CB and then a center. After that....pick just about anyone. I expect that at least one of those positions will be addressed in FA and very likely a RB.

austintexanite
12-02-2007, 06:05 PM
Need to draft an OL in the first. Prefer center or left tackle.

Grid
12-02-2007, 07:51 PM
Well we are gonna need to find SOMEONE in FA. We need to much help on the Oline to leave it all up to drafting.

Seems that every year when FA rolls around, some unexpected players find themself testing the market... maybe we will have a good olineman unexpectedly become available.

adam
12-02-2007, 08:30 PM
In my opinion, we need to spend our first round pick on an o-lineman of some nature (a LG would be may preference). In my opinion, we should move Pitts back to LT (our line as a whole had it's best season with him at LT) and draft a LG. I think McKinney should be good to come back next season, which should set us at center. I haven't heard anything on Weary, but if he can't return back to his previous form, I have confidence that Studdard will develop fine. In my opinion, Eric Winston is the lone bright spot on our o-line at moment, so we should be fine at RT. That should give us, at the very least, an o-line with a lot of potential. Which is at least better than what we have right now.

That leaves us the 3rd round, where I definitely draft something for the secondary. It's uncertain whether or not Dunta will ever be back to 100%, and thus we need something back there. We're just fortunate that Bennett turned out to be such a solid player.

As for RB, I think we should make a try for Julius Jones. He's proven that he is the real deal wouldn't be a huge risk for us. Given Dayne's improvement, I would say keep him and let him go in as relief. If we can't get Jones, then I would settle for LaMont Jordan.

We have a lot of off season work to do. A LOT.

Wolf
12-02-2007, 09:00 PM
http://www.draftdaddy.com/nfldraft/freeagentoffense.cfm


they have a list (not sure how accurate)

of offensive players

Maddict5
12-02-2007, 09:15 PM
Well we are gonna need to find SOMEONE in FA. We need to much help on the Oline to leave it all up to drafting.

Seems that every year when FA rolls around, some unexpected players find themself testing the market... maybe we will have a good olineman unexpectedly become available.

exactly we have to find 2 or 3 starters in FA... personally id def go rb there with somebody like turner or julius, and then find some people for the secondary, olb and o-line also

Maddict5
12-02-2007, 09:23 PM
here, bar gross and flozell (who wont make it to FA imo), i see nobody to get excited about

Ruben Brown, UFA, Chicago Bears
An aging veteran, Brown has a lot of experience opening holes for backs and allowing time for passers. He’s a solid guard who holds down his position quite well. If he decides to stick around, he may have a couple of good seasons left. Teams won’t line up to sign him, but there should be a handful that show interest.

Alan Faneca, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
Faneca seems to be the most likely of this group to leave his current team. Rumors suggest that he plans on leaving after the season and has not discussed an extension with the Steelers. Faneca is a quality guard who has started in five Pro Bowls and been selected as a first team All-Pro five times as well. He also still has some prime seasons of his career remaining. Faneca will receive the most interest at his position, could be the most coveted offensive linemen after the season, and should also be one of the most coveted players available in all of the NFL.

Flozell Adams, UFA, Dallas Cowboys
A veteran left tackle, Adams should hit the market and receive decent interest. A second-round pick in 1998, Adams has developed into one of the league’s better offensive linemen. His size, experience, and performance will lure teams into making a considerable offer for his services. The Cowboys are developing young talent behind him, and depending on how that youth pans out the rest of the season, the team could allow him to leave in favor of saving some money.

Jordan Gross, UFA, Carolina Panthers
With Gross’ contract voiding at season’s end, the Panthers will need to increase his salary in order to keep him around. The ownership seems to agree that he deserves a pay raise, and the team appears to want to keep him around as their starting right tackle. A former first-round selection who has played well, Gross will be looking for a considerably larger check come next season.

Ryan Lilja, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
A quality guard, Lilja is relatively young and has a Super Bowl ring to call his own. The Colts will do well to sign him to an extension, but there’s a chance that Lilja tests the market. In reality, the system that Lilja plays within is a nice fit, and he could easily stay because of it.

Max Starks, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
Starks is young and massive, and another Pittsburgh player that may leave the Steel City. He’s 25 and is listed at 6’7” while weighing 337 pounds. His size and age will make him a desired player on many team’s list. A top tier tackle will always garner interest and Starks may lead the free agent class at the spot because of the high level of play he has shown on the field.

Floyd Womack, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
A big, experienced guard, Womack could get a decent offer from any team missing out on a top tier target like Faneca. If Womack isn’t the outright starter in Seattle this season, look for him to find work elsewhere with an expanded role guaranteed.

Jake Scott, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
Scott is the starting right guard for one of the top offensive line units in the entire NFL, and his ability to help protect Peyton Manning should equate to a nice contract number. Indianapolis has found a way to retain most of their line talent in recent seasons, and it should come as no surprise if Scott is locked into a long-term deal in the near future.

Todd Steussie UFA St. Louis Rams
Steussie has been a solid offensive tackle for several years, but he was placed on injured reserve earlier this season because of a foot injury. He’s approaching forty years of age, but he may still have a good season or two in him. He should receive some attention as a free agent simply because of his experience and the position he plays.

Travelle Wharton UFA Carolina Panthers
A late third-round selection in 2004, Wharton has developed into a solid starting left tackle. He has been a key reason for the successes that the Panthers have had, and his absence last season was a key reason for the team’s struggles. Wharton’s rookie contract will expire at season’s end, and his value on the market should be fairly strong. A quality left tackle is hard to find, and team’s looking to bolster an offensive line will have to consider Wharton. Carolina will likely make every effort to work out an extension.

Other Free Agent Offensive Linemen
OG P.J. Alexander UFA Atlanta Falcons
OT Nat Dorsey UFA Cleveland Browns
OT Trai Essex RFA Pittsburgh Steelers
OG Chris Kemoeatu RFA Pittsburgh Steelers
OT Cory Lekkerkerker RFA San Diego Chargers
OT Sean Locklear UFA Seattle Seahawks
OG Brian Rimpf RFA Baltimore Ravens
OG Keydrick Vincent UFA Baltimore Ravens
OG Fred Weary UFA Houston Texans

adam
12-02-2007, 09:25 PM
I wouldn't mind having Flozell Adams at LT.

Starks, if only because of his size, seems like an interesting option to explore.

Maddict5
12-02-2007, 09:26 PM
btw theres some nice olb's and db's

Lance Briggs, UFA, Chicago Bears
Since 2004, Briggs has been a standout linebacker for the Bears. He’s overshadowed by Brian Urlacher much of the time, but Briggs gets the job done as is evidenced by the fact that he’s totaled more than 100 tackles in each of the past three seasons and that he’s added four sacks and five interceptions over that time. Teams are going to line up to try and entice Briggs to come play for them, and whichever team lands him will be adding one of the top weak-side defenders in the league. The chances of Briggs leaving seem good.

Tedy Bruschi, UFA, New England Patriots
The safe bet is that Bruschi will retire once his contract ends after the season, but if he can be convinced to play another season or two, he’ll be able to attract decent attention as a leader with valuable playoff experience and championships under his belt. In fifteen games during the ’06 season, Bruschi logged 112 total tackles and an interception, all after coming back from a stroke. Bruschi has proven that he’s not only talented and has a natural ability for the game, but also that he’s one tough customer with a work heart that can’t be measured. He is a unique breed of a player.

Karlos Dansby, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Dansby may very well end up being the cream of the crop in terms of linebackers during the next free agency period. He has excellent size and is coming into his own as a top level defensive player. He will turn 26 later this season and has consecutive seasons of 80 or more tackles. He also collected three interceptions in ’05 and an impressive eight sacks in ’06. Being young, strong, and talented should land him a large contract, and the Cardinals could be the team locking him up very soon.

Demorrio Williams, UFA, Atlanta Falcons
Williams is slightly undersized, but he has a knack for finding the ball and making the play. His 217 combined total tackles over the past two seasons is a solid number, and he’s been helpful against the passing attack at times. He is also appealing because he’s still maturing at the position and is just 27 years old. Atlanta will try to retain his services, but Williams might command more money on the open market.

Boss Bailey, UFA, Detroit Lions
Bailey has strong coverage skills and works hard to make plays. Bailey is physically gifted, but he has battled injury the past two seasons and hasn’t had a chance to show consistent play. Due to lost games, he’s also been unable to work on developing a knack for tracking down the ball. Bailey needs to be more physical, but also find a way to stay healthy. He’ll turn 28 early in the season, and will need to be on the field to garner attention on the free agent market.

Danny Clark UFA Houston Texans
He’s played for three teams in three seasons, and he’s making a decent impact in Houston this year. Clark totaled 113 tackles in 2005 with Oakland and then went to New Orleans, where he played sparingly. In ten games this season, he has 42 total tackles and an interception to his credit. Clark isn’t an elite player, but he can be an asset in a depth role or alongside top-quality linebackers. He may have found a home in Houston, depending on how his season finishes out.

Kawika Mitchell UFA New York Giants
Mitchell tallied seasons of 105 tackles and 104 tackles in Kansas City prior to this season. Mitchell is now playing for a Giants team that has some decent depth at linebacker and has improved their defensive play over the course of the season, so he hasn’t been asked to post similar totals. However, he’s still been able to make 42 total tackles, force a fumble, and record a sack. Mitchell may not be the biggest prize as a free agent, but he will be a solid addition for any team that needs linebacker help.

Mark Simoneau UFA New Orleans Saints
Simoneau hasn’t overly impressed with his play in recent seasons, but he was a crucial part of the Saints success last season. His effort and ability to make timely plays paid big dividends early in the season and helped the team get off to a strong start. He has 47 tackles this season, and he’s a veteran who knows how to play the game. He’s a liability in coverage at times, and doesn’t strike fear into opponents, but he’s a decent player that will find a place to play if the Saints don’t work to extend his contract.

Other Free Agent Linebackers
Jordan Beck RFA Atlanta Falcons
Kevin Bentley UFA Seattle Seahawks
Darryl Blackstock RFA Arizona Cardinals
Brandon Chillar UFA St. Louis Rams
Na'il Diggs UFA Carolina Panthers
Landon Johnson UFA Cincinnati Bengals
Teddy Lehman UFA Detroit Lions
Lemar Marshall UFA Washington Redskins
Sam Williams UFA Oakland Raiders

Asante Samuel, UFA, New England Patriots
Samuel is quickly becoming known as one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL, having posted a league-best ten interceptions last season. His interception total was impressive, but so was his ability to stick to receivers on a regular basis. In the first six games of the current season, he has three picks, and has kept up his strong play, continuing to shutdown receivers and helping the Patriots to an undefeated record to this point. If Samuel is not signed to an extension, he’ll command big dollars on the market, especially if he keeps the pace up.

Mike Doss, UFA, Minnesota Vikings
The former Colts safety has a new home this season, and if he can avoid injury, he could see a long-term deal from Minnesota. Doss recorded a pair of interceptions in just six games last season, and has two picks each of the past three seasons. He has the ability to make an impact in slowing the opposition’s rushing attack, and has plenty of playoff experience under his belt. Doss is developing into a leader and is a defensive weapon that many teams wouldn’t mind having.

Domonique Foxworth, RFA, Denver Broncos
The Broncos added Dre’ Bly during the off season, so Foxworth will still be used mainly as a nickel defender. Foxworth is fast, but doesn’t always make the best play on the ball. He’s just 24, so experience and playing time should help his development. If another team thinks he can be a top two cornerback, he may seek to leave Denver to take on that bigger role. His RFA status will make it difficult to pull him away from the Broncos, but the cornerback position is one of great significance in the modern NFL, so there’s a chance.

Drayton Florence, UFA, San Diego Chargers
Florence has held onto his starting spot over Antonio Cromartie when it was thought that Cromartie would win the job early. However, the veteran showed his resolve and stepped up his play since having his position challenged. Florence is not a shutdown type of player, but he does make plays when he needs to most of the time and he had three interceptions in 2006. The Chargers can probably afford to let him hit the market, and the best bet is that Florence will find a starting position somewhere else come next season.

Randall Gay UFA New England Patriots
Gay is just 25, and while he benefits from playing for a solid Patriots team, he is still a decent player in his own right. He’s been able to step up even more this season and post solid numbers, while also showing more consistency. He has registered 25 total tackles through the team’s first ten games, to go along with three interceptions. The Patriots and Gay will look to keep him in New England, but a few teams could jump in and try to lure him away, including the New York Jets, who were interested in Gay last offseason.

Marcus Trufant, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
Trufant’s contract has voided based on playing time and given the team’s commitment to other players at his position, it appears that the cornerback will be looking for a starting position elsewhere. His 2004 season was easily his best, when he compiled 96 total tackles, five interceptions, and a sack. He was unable to match that type of production until this season, in which he has 58 total tackles and four picks through eleven games. He will be one of the top defensive targets on the market.

Ken Hamlin, UFA, Dallas Cowboys
The Arkansas product has 43 total tackles and four interceptions in eleven games, and has helped Dallas to one of the league’s best records. If he can add another interception before the end of the season, he’ll have a new career high and will help his value on the market. Hamlin is still young at 26, and should have several seasons ahead of him, so there will be teams interested in using him at the safety spot.

Other Free Agent Cornerback
Chris Carr RFA Oakland Raiders
Tory James UFA New England Patriots
Karl Paymah RFA Denver Broncos
B.J. Sams UFA Baltimore Ravens
Chad Scott UFA New England Patriots


Other Free Agent Safety
William Bartee UFA Kansas City Chiefs
Jay Bellamy UFA New Orleans Saints
Omar Stoutmire UFA Washington Redskins
Derrick Strait UFA Carolina Panthers
Gibril Wilson UFA New York Giants

run-david-run
12-03-2007, 12:13 AM
Would love to get Trufant or even Florence. Both would easily top Faggins and would compete with Bennet and Drob (depending on health). I would imagine even in best case scenario, Drob wont be at his best for some of next year (with the posibility of him missing all of it still there) so we must plan accordingly, unlike the Spencer fiasco. However, unlike last year, we will have the cap room to improve our roster substantially.

run-david-run
12-03-2007, 12:13 AM
Does anyone know what DE's are going to be hitting the market?

BSofA04
12-03-2007, 12:18 AM
Does anyone know what DE's are going to be hitting the market?

http://footballsfuture.com/2008/nfl/freeagentsDL.html
Here's a good list of possible FA's to replace Weaver.

SA Texan
12-03-2007, 08:03 AM
After watching the game last night, I'm even more convinced that Faneca is someone to go after during the off season....at least make a play for him, the guy is a beast and a difference maker.
It would be great to draft an offensive lineman also, but this team needs established vets on the line as well. Why not go after the best available?

b0ng
12-03-2007, 08:22 AM
After watching the game last night, I'm even more convinced that Faneca is someone to go after during the off season....at least make a play for him, the guy is a beast and a difference maker.
It would be great to draft an offensive lineman also, but this team needs established vets on the line as well. Why not go after the best available?

I know that it's all hindsight, but look at the difference that Joe Thomas is making in Cleveland. If you remember last year, the Browns offensive line was terrible. Now, they are hailed as one of the best, and he's going to be there for forever.

Alan Faneca is probably going to want more than what we signed Anthony Weaver for, and next year will be his eleventh season in the league already. I'm sorry, but as good as he is, I really don't want our team to sign yet another player over 30 for millions in cap space.

Now, if they get a middle of the road player for cheap, and do some decent drafting, I think it'll help the franchise a hell of a lot more than going out and signing a huge contract in free agency, especially on a player that already has a lot of miles on his tires already.

Here's a link to an article about left tackles (http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2007/11/outside-foxborough-jason-peters-one-of-the-ten-most-valuable-properties-in-football). Basically the whole crux of the article can be found here:

As you can see, Peters is one of only three undrafted free agents to be starting at left tackle, the other two being Denver’s Matt Lepsis and Oakland’s Barry Sims, both of whom suffered catastrophic knee injuries in their final year at school (Sims in the Hula Bowl) and went undrafted while rehabilitating their knees.

Pretty much, the whole point is that good LT's NEVER hit FA. Take that as you will.

SA Texan
12-03-2007, 08:27 AM
I know that it's all hindsight, but look at the difference that Joe Thomas is making in Cleveland. If you remember last year, the Browns offensive line was terrible. Now, they are hailed as one of the best, and he's going to be there for forever.


Good point, but they also signed Eric Steinbach as a free agent who is making a huge difference on that line as well. Thomas isn't the only upgrade they made...one was drafted and the other was a FA.

beerlover
12-03-2007, 09:10 AM
assuming your looking to bulk up the roster w/offensive line upgrades what current OL does Kubiak/Smith retain 1st? Weary is scheduled to become a UFA which means a new contract but with a broken Tibia just how big or when would he even be able to return? then you have the center position, do you retain soon to be 13th vet Mike Flanagan or 10 year coming off acl Steve McKinney? Chris White one of Shermans GB signings signed to a one year contract(?) now with a season ending injury? anyone care to venture a guess how Spencers rehab is progressing? & OL free agent Jordan Black isn't exactly tearing it up on the bench, if he was any good surely would have seen some time already, now we'll get a look at him these last four games.

the Texans present OL consists of only two players with significant future roles w/Texans short of some kind of medical miracle- Chester Pitts & Eric Winston

forget about addressing these needs via free agency, the Texans need to trade down in the 1st to add a 2nd rd. pick. use the 1st pick on a tackle, 2nd rd. pick on a center & 3rd rd. pick on an OG.

b0ng
12-03-2007, 10:12 AM
Good point, but they also signed Eric Steinbach as a free agent who is making a huge difference on that line as well. Thomas isn't the only upgrade they made...one was drafted and the other was a FA.

With Eric Steinbach they got a guy who had only been in the league for 4 years, where as with Faneca we're getting a guy who's already been in for 11. That's really what makes me shy away from paying him huge amounts of money. He's already played a decade and I think he's looking to land a huge contract with whatever team is next to sign him.

SA Texan
12-03-2007, 10:31 AM
With Eric Steinbach they got a guy who had only been in the league for 4 years, where as with Faneca we're getting a guy who's already been in for 11. That's really what makes me shy away from paying him huge amounts of money. He's already played a decade and I think he's looking to land a huge contract with whatever team is next to sign him.

Very good point

b0ng
12-03-2007, 10:38 AM
I don't mean to shoot you down a lot, I just think this year, we pick up some good but cheap FA's, and try to get the premier talent in the draft.

But really, we just need help everywhere, and I think that we'll see a pretty big turnover in the line this offseason (At least I hope we do).

Dallas_Texan
12-03-2007, 10:44 AM
I wouldn't mind having Flozell Adams at LT.

Starks, if only because of his size, seems like an interesting option to explore.

No way the Cowboys let Flozell go. The good news though, is that the Cowboys also have Julius Jones, Marion Barber, and Tyson Thompson (their entire RB corp), and Patrick Crayton, Chris Canty, Jaques Reeves, Ken Hamlin, all as FA's, so maybe they can't afford him! They will put their money into Barber, and Crayton, and let Thompson and Jones go without a fight. They won't let Canty go, and Ken Hamlin will be resigned. Flozell though.....I don't know how much cap room Dallas has after the Romo extension, but I can see Adams settling for less just to stay in Dallas.

Dallas_Texan
12-03-2007, 11:03 AM
Any good one coming out this year?

I don't know about OL, but for RB give me Justin Fargas, Julius Jones (if he can stay healthy), and obviously Michael Turner. I think Fargas and Dayne would be a good combo until next year when we can afford to spend a first or second rounder on an RB.

This year will have to be a CB or LT in the first (whichever we don't pick up in FA). Hopefully an LT. Their's noone worth picking up otherwise.

b0ng
12-03-2007, 11:16 AM
This is a repost from a different thread, but I'll post it here too:

I'm on board with all of this. An interesting article about LT's can be found here (http://www.patriotsdaily.com/2007/11/outside-foxborough-jason-peters-one-of-the-ten-most-valuable-properties-in-football/). It's mostly an article talking about Bills LT Jason Peters (who's apparently a pretty good LT that I never knew about), but it includes a few graphs showing all NFL starting LT salaries.

I think LT and then C is probably our weakest position, although now with both Weary and White down, you can really make a case for saying the entire line could get positions filled and we would be improved. Say we get a guard, tackle and center. I would probably want to get the center or guard in free agency if we really have to go that route. There's already a few lists of free agents, but I'll list em here:

Footballs Future.com (http://footballsfuture.com/2008/nfl/freeagentsOL.html) I have never used, or heard about, this site before this season so. .

KFFL's site (http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=OL&y=2008) This website is the best place to get breaking news stories. Sort of like a clearinghouse for everything about football, and football players.

The Red Zone OT (http://www.theredzone.org/2008/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=OT) OG (http://www.theredzone.org/2008/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=OG) and C (http://www.theredzone.org/2008/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=C). Good football site.

I really couldn't even tell you who the best Center would be, but looking at the KFFL list, I guess a few names could be Seth McKinney (http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/player.php?id=2865), Casey Wiegmann (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/casey_wiegmann/), and after that it's getting pretty murky.

At Guard it'd have to be Alan Faneca (http://news.steelers.com/team/player/49191/). He will want buttloads of money, and has quite a few years on him. He will probably be real good for another year or 2 and then be a decent starter for probably another 2 after that. He will more than likely not be signed with the Steelers after this year as he has expressed interest in leaving. He wants a huge contract. Ryan Lilja (http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=bio&player_id=302) is a name to think about, although I think the Colts will retain him. Then maybe Floyd Womack (http://www.seahawks.com/Team/Players.aspx?id=12870) with the Seahawks, but again I think he'll end up being retained with how well Seattle is doing.

And at Tackle it'd probably be Flozell Adams (http://dallascowboys.com/team_roster.cfm). He will more than likely get a pretty nice contract if they go all the way this year. Then you've got Max Starks (http://news.steelers.com/Team/Player|4) who is coming off of a knee injury. Steelers will probably resign him if they don't resign Faneca I'm sure. But he could be interesting. Jordan Gross (http://www.panthers.com/Team/PlayerBio.aspx?id=7516) and Travelle Wharton (http://www.panthers.com/Team/PlayerBio.aspx?id=8134) are from the Panthers, and could be worth a look, but nothing too expensive.

So that's my overview of FA. I don't really think that we should pay big money to anybody this year, because the people who would be worth big money, are a little on the "used" side. I still think that we should really only get a few fill in's for depth and really look to the draft for getting our big names.

We've all thrown around names for the draft, and this website has a great forum where there's lots of draft talk going on. I'm of the opinion we get a good LT in the draft (preferred in the 1st round, but what the heck, we seem to find good talent in the draft at all rounds), and a decent C in the later rounds.

The coaching thing I definitely do not have enough knowledge on NFL coaching staffs to really have an opinion on who to hire and whatnot. I wish we could get a combination of Indy's, Cleveland's, and Pittsburgh's offensive line coaches. Like Voltron, only with a whistle.

run-david-run
12-03-2007, 05:29 PM
http://footballsfuture.com/2008/nfl/freeagentsDL.html
Here's a good list of possible FA's to replace Weaver.

Smith or Allen would be most welcome. Maybe even Paul Spicer, if all else fails. Allen would definately be my first option as RDE though.

threetoedpete
12-04-2007, 02:19 AM
Need to draft an OL in the first. Prefer center or left tackle.

There is not a center worth a day one pick in this class. Picking a center in the top fifteen players would be a major brain fart. there isn't a Mangold nor Kalil in this class.

I don't see a Joe Thomas in this class. some do. A lot will depend on which Juniors come out. One of the top end Juniors , Micheal Oher, will propobably have to sit a year. Baker has been hurt. Long is not that far way from what is starting in Detroit at left tackle. So I stand to disagree. With no Thomas like prospect on the board...you do attempt to move down. You keep moving down untill the tallent meets the need. You attempt to hit as many holes as you can by drafting as many players as you can between ten and 99.

threetoedpete
12-04-2007, 02:34 AM
assuming your looking to bulk up the roster w/offensive line upgrades what current OL does Kubiak/Smith retain 1st? Weary is scheduled to become a UFA which means a new contract but with a broken Tibia just how big or when would he even be able to return? then you have the center position, do you retain soon to be 13th vet Mike Flanagan or 10 year coming off acl Steve McKinney? Chris White one of Shermans GB signings signed to a one year contract(?) now with a season ending injury? anyone care to venture a guess how Spencers rehab is progressing? & OL free agent Jordan Black isn't exactly tearing it up on the bench, if he was any good surely would have seen some time already, now we'll get a look at him these last four games.

the Texans present OL consists of only two players with significant future roles w/Texans short of some kind of medical miracle- Chester Pitts & Eric Winston

forget about addressing these needs via free agency, the Texans need to trade down in the 1st to add a 2nd rd. pick. use the 1st pick on a tackle, 2nd rd. pick on a center & 3rd rd. pick on an OG.


Long way untill the draft. I'm thinking the same thing. I would only like to point out that there are several interesting prospect on the o-line who will be available in the third and fourth rounds. I believe they can shore up Rb and corner if they play their cards correctly. I would very much like to see a move down though in this draft.

One of the few o-linman we still have standing is Pitts. He is not Bruce Mathews, but he isn't a bad o-lineman either. The big qeustion is if you sign Fanaca what do you do with Pitts ? Or are you going to throw Pitts under the bus also ? We already got a left gaurd. Drafting a guy to groom..I'm with you. Double dipping with a high priced FA...brain fart. He better be a heck of a left gaurd prospect. Anything close to thrity is the yellow brick road to cap hell. Say hello to the wizzard for me in 2010.