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Errant Hothy
11-28-2007, 12:24 PM
I have not seen these posted anywhere.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

11/21/2007 Signed WR Derrick Hamilton to the practice squad.

11/28/2007 Released DE Shantee Orr. Signed LB William Kershaw from the Philadelphia Eagles' practice squad.

Hamilton played his college ball at Clemson. He's 6'4" and 205 lbs. Drafted in the 3rd round of the 04 draft by the 49'ers. He tore his knee up as a rookie, and while in rehab was seen playing in a celeb charity basketball game. He then tweaked a hammy in traingin camp. He has never played for the Broncos or the Packers.

Kershaw was an UDFA out of Maryland for the Chiefs, who was cut and signed by the Eagles this year (afte signing a 3 year deal at the end of last year). He's 6'3" and 240 lbs. Can play MLB and OLB, as well as STs. Had 3 ST tackles against the Colts in last year's afc Wild Card Game. He has never played for the Broncos or the Packers.

TexansLucky13
11-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Bye Shantee....

:crying:

Hardcore Texan
11-28-2007, 01:26 PM
I have always like Orr. Good luck to him wherever he lands.

threetoedpete
11-28-2007, 01:37 PM
Well I asked the other week where Orr was. He can rush the passer. He won't be with out work for very long. Cheap 3-4 guy. Someone will bite.

Quitely, relentlessly cleaning up the roster. Must of been a heck of a WR work out ? So I guess I was correct. In a draft rich with WR/TE playmakers...we ain't in the market this draft ?

alphajoker
11-28-2007, 01:45 PM
I have not seen these posted anywhere.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp



Hamilton played his college ball at Clemson. He's 6'4" and 205 lbs. Drafted in the 3rd round of the 04 draft by the 49'ers. He tore his knee up as a rookie, and while in rehab was seen playing in a celeb charity basketball game. He then tweaked a hammy in traingin camp. He has never played for the Broncos or the Packers.

Kershaw is an UDFA out of Maryland for the Chiefs. He's 6'3" and 240 lbs. Can play MLB and OLB, as well as STs. Had 3 ST tackles against the Colts in last year's afc Wild Card Game. He has never played for the Broncos or the Packers.

I'm confused. :confused: He was signed from the Eagles PS, but was an UDFA for the Chiefs?

Errant Hothy
11-28-2007, 01:47 PM
I'm confused. :confused: He was signed from the Eagles PS, but was an UDFA for the Chiefs?

Yes the Chiefs cut him around the end of September, after signing him to a 3 year deal at the end of last season. The Eagles signed him to their practice squad about a month ago.

alphajoker
11-28-2007, 01:50 PM
Yes the Chiefs cut him around the end of September, after signing him to a 3 year deal at the end of last season. The Eagles signed him to their practice squad about a month ago.

Got it, thanks. So I guess this means he will be activated because from what I understand, you cannot pull a player from another teams practice squad to put on your practice squad. I guess we'll be seeing him on ST, right?

nero THE zero
11-28-2007, 02:20 PM
Well I asked the other week where Orr was. He can rush the passer. He won't be with out work for very long. Cheap 3-4 guy. Someone will bite.

Quitely, relentlessly cleaning up the roster. Must of been a heck of a WR work out ? So I guess I was correct. In a draft rich with WR/TE playmakers...we ain't in the market this draft ?

I don't think this PS signing is remotely related to our intentions in next year's draft but considering our needs and our depth at WR and TE I don't expect either position to be a point of concern in the draft unless someone of exceptional value falls to us.

281
11-28-2007, 02:56 PM
dang, i liked orr.

MeLoveTexans
11-28-2007, 05:41 PM
I just heard this on 610... i have to admit i was kinda surprised... i really liked his explosiveness.. seems when he was in the game, we got the most pressure on the qb

TEXANS84
11-28-2007, 06:26 PM
Too bad on Orr, he was someone I always hoped would succeed.

I'll always remember the hit he put on Mike Vick in Reliant stadium. Priceless.

adam
11-28-2007, 06:29 PM
That's a shame to hear, Orr was a solid player. Will this Kershaw fellow be getting any playing time? If so, I would say he has some proving to do. I personally believed that Orr should have been a starter over Danny Clark, but that's just me.

disaacks3
11-28-2007, 06:39 PM
I have not seen these posted anywhere.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp
Hamilton...He has never played for the Broncos or the Packers.

Kershaw...He has never played for the Broncos or the Packers. Priceless!

cuppacoffee
11-28-2007, 08:44 PM
Team must have some expectations for Kershaw to sign him, having to place him on the 53 man squad.

:coffee:

ActualTexan
11-28-2007, 09:27 PM
Yeah, too bad about Orr. But by all means, roll out Kersaw, let's see what he has.

dtran04
11-28-2007, 09:29 PM
Most likely for ST purposes. Maybe the ST play as of late has been subpar? There certainly haven't been many holes to run through.

keyser
11-28-2007, 11:27 PM
I'm surprised about the reaction to Orr. Last year I felt he was, by far, the weakest LB (I wouldn't call him solid), and I'm glad that we did not have to go with him as a starter this year. The only time Orr seemed to be productive was when blitzing the passer, and as someone pointed out, he hasn't even been asked to do that much this year. I don't think we're losing much.

Rick Smith has impressed me with some of the people he's brought in so far, especially when it's been by choice rather than necessity. I'm guessing he's seen something in Kershaw, so I'm eager to find out what he'll bring to the team.

Grid
11-28-2007, 11:32 PM
I hate to see Orr go because he was always a monster on special teams for us.. and we need help on special teams (which is kind of surprising).

But.. we need to keep improving our depth. If our woes in the secondary are any indication, its that you never know when you are gonna be looking at those 3rd and 4th string guys and praying to god that they can go out there and not lose the game for ya.

JDizzle
11-29-2007, 09:26 AM
I wonder if he's related to sammy kershaw, one of the greatest country singers of all time, right next to doug supernaw.

badboy
11-29-2007, 09:35 AM
When Clark was signed I thought there goes Orr and was surprised he remained as long as he did.

bigbrewster2000
11-29-2007, 09:41 AM
Orr was not even lining up at LB. The last position he played was DE and while he played the first 2 games of the season, he didn't record a sack but did seem to get pressure. That is what suprised me the most was that he didn't see anymore game time at DE. But whatever, we exchanged special teams guys, not really that big of a deal if you ask me.

nunusguy
11-29-2007, 10:00 AM
I dunno, but I believe Orr may have been the teams sack-leader a couple years ago and may even have the teams record for most sacks in a year ? Not that that number would be real high.
Like Peek & Anderson, Orr was a college DE who was a tweener who became
a fit for the Texans 3-4 at OLB. But unlike Peek who was a first-day Draft pick by the the Texans, he came much cheaper so the team could keep him.
But apparently Orr wasn't as versatile as Anderson who has played some DE and OLB both in Kubiaks 4-3 and therefor was the one to get cut.

Texans_Chick
11-29-2007, 10:54 AM
FWIW, Here's an exchange I picked up on LZ's blog:



Reader: I just wanted to get your opinion on the release of Shantee Orr. I know that he probably was one of the better edge rushers the Texans had, and I admit that I, like you, was scratching my head with him being inactive every week. Now they have released him. Do you know if something happened? Now, they really have no edge presence at all. I am lost.

LZ: I have no idea how he got in the doghouse so quickly. I have a hard time believing that it was just that he wasn't good enough. There almost seems like there was something else at work, but I don't have any scoop on that.

The Texans tend to keep things in house.

He got hurt on the first day of camp with a "bruise." And was at risk of not making the roster then (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5028102.html).

HOU-TEX
11-29-2007, 11:07 AM
Shantee Orr was just another one of those infamous average players that the Texans tend to hang on to too long (Faggins, Simmons, C.C., Earl, Anderson, Salaam, etc.). Kubiak & Co at least appear to be weeding these players out while replacing them with better talent.

I don't have a problem with it. It's time for this organization as a whole to rid itself of mediocrity.

:texflag:

AnthonyE
11-29-2007, 11:16 AM
Orr was one of my faves.

I considered him one of the faces of the team.

er, special teams that is...

Brando
11-29-2007, 11:25 AM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/players/william_kershaw.jpg


kcchiefs.com profile (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/william_kershaw/)

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Athletic linebacker enters his second training camp with the Chiefs … Has the ability to play both middle and outside linebacker … Is expected to concentrate his time at outside linebacker … Could contribute on special teams while mastering the club’s defensive scheme … Spent the first 15 weeks of the 2006 season on the practice squad before being promoted for the final regular season game … Has played in one regular season contest and has seen duty in one postseason game.

College Info

Played in 42 games (20 starts) at Maryland … Recorded 204 tackles (103 solo), 12.5 tackles for loss (-39.0 yards), 3.0 sacks (-20.0 yards) and eight QB pressures … Also registered an interception, a forced fumble and two passes defensed … Started 10 games as a senior in 2005, ranking third on the team with 76 tackles (34 solo), 5.5 tackles for loss, a sack (-2.0 yards) and a quarterback pressure … Started 10 games during his junior campaign in 2004 … Registered 74 tackles (38 solo), 6.0 stops for loss and 2.0 sacks (-18.0 yards) ... Credited with an interception, two quarterback pressures, a forced fumble, two passes defensed and two blocked kicks … Played in 11 games as a sophomore in 2003, totaling 25 tackles (18 solo), a tackle for loss and four QB pressures … Saw action in 10 games as a true freshman in 2002 … Produced 29 tackles (13 solo), a quarterback pressure and a blocked kick … Majored in Criminal Justice at Maryland.

Errant Hothy
11-29-2007, 11:38 AM
Shantee Orr is the Luke Scott of the Texans. Both are average at best players, stuck at the bottom of the rosters, yet have somehow endeared themselves to the fans despite the fact that either player leaving is a sign that their repective team is moving in the right direction.

Texan_Bill
11-29-2007, 11:50 AM
Shantee Orr is the Luke Scott of the Texans. Both are average at best players, stuck at the bottom of the rosters, yet have somehow endeared themselves to the fans despite the fact that either player leaving is a sign that their repective team is moving in the right direction.

^^^^^^^Thats a pretty dead-on assessment^^^^^^^^

Chance_C
11-29-2007, 02:00 PM
I dunno, but I believe Orr may have been the teams sack-leader a couple years ago and may even have the teams record for most sacks in a year ? Not that that number would be real high.

I think that would be Steve Foley...8 sacks I think....

Tulip
11-29-2007, 02:24 PM
I think the reason that Shantee endeared himself to fans (at least to me) was that he was part of the scrub defense that stepped up and tried to fill in the gaps during the injury-plagued 2003 season.

I think he got lost in the 3-4 to 4-3 switch. And there are always players who can't seem to survive a regime change.

painekiller
11-29-2007, 02:26 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/players/william_kershaw.jpg


kcchiefs.com profile (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/william_kershaw/)

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College Info

Lead the chief's in special teams tackle for the one game he played in 2006 with 3. At the very least he is a very good special teamer, who is younger then Orr. Can he play for us, well he is a bottom of the roster guy currently and time will tell. Plus Orr was almost let go at the end of training camp, but we traded Babin to keep him in the DE mix. Well that hasn't worked out to well up to now.

threetoedpete
11-29-2007, 03:13 PM
Most likely for ST purposes. Maybe the ST play as of late has been subpar? There certainly haven't been many holes to run through.

OK I get it. The guy gets off an awesome punt...we're not going to get J.J. started. What I know for a fact is our guys blocking thier gunners aren't worth wram spit. You'd think after they'd been smoked seven games in a row, they'd grab someone and take the penalty. I don't know and I ain't in the room, I hope the WR guy can block gunners.

Rex King
11-29-2007, 09:35 PM
Antwan Peek and Troy Evans were very good special teamers. I haven't seen anyone this year step up to take on the mantle.

beerlover
11-30-2007, 01:10 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=3981

“I watched William coming out of college,” Holland said. “He showed some skills that he could play in this league. I think it’s a good pick up for us. He’s a young kid who has some athletic ability that we like. We’re excited he’s here and hope he can help us out. We need young players.”

just did a little more research & he seems like a really good special teams player, has blocked several kicks which means he has a quick first step, speed, reaction timing & reach. I think the Texans could also use him in 3rd/4th down situational pass rushing schemes. could be a disruptive force in the backfield coming off the edge & and pressure the pocket at least flushing his prey towards Mario. also while playing ball @ Maryland his MLB was another very cut dude (known for weight room warriors) D'Qwell Jackson of the Cleveland Browns.