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Brandon420tx
11-18-2007, 04:00 PM
When they did the replay of his little scamper. I was watching Daynes eyes. Before the run it looked like he was thinking "I've had a good day, but I bet those posters will still say my ypc is weak." Then after "That oughta shut them up for now"

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 04:08 PM
Made up for his dancing in the back-field on 4th and 1.

Still, I'd rather have Dayne than Reggie Bust.

GuerillaBlack
11-18-2007, 04:08 PM
No matter how much we hate on Dayne, he had a good day today.

Allstar
11-18-2007, 04:10 PM
Maybe Dayne is just a much better back in the second half of the season. It happened last year, and so far so good this year.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 04:13 PM
Dayne came through for us today. He really did. But don't count on him to keep up the act. We still need a RB.

Brandon420tx
11-18-2007, 04:15 PM
As long as Dayne does not fumble, and averages over 3 ypc, I'm satisfied.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 04:16 PM
As long as Dayne does not fumble, and averages over 3 ypc, I'm satisfied.


A good point.

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 04:16 PM
I'll take Dayne over Echimandu or whatever the hell his name is. That fumble was idiotic.

Wolf
11-18-2007, 04:20 PM
As long as Dayne does not fumble, and averages over 3 ypc, I'm satisfied.


my thoughts on dayne...I kept thinking How was this guy College footballs leading rusher? Ricky Williams was a more explosive runner.. and I kept watching dayne and he is a big guy but slow very slow..and very disappointed in the 4th-1 play

however, I did think about how he is pretty sure handed and don't make many mistakes, he showed good moves on that big run and that cutback and he isn't costing us a lot of money.

nothing personal against Dayne and he is what he is, but just not as explosive for a back that I would like for this team.. maybe I am greedy
:devilpig:

Hervoyel
11-18-2007, 05:12 PM
Maybe Dayne is just a much better back in the second half of the season. It happened last year, and so far so good this year.


Dayne is a back who needs a lot of carries to get going and, I suspect he needs to get them week in and week out. At the end of last season I was hoping that the Texans would draft a back. Adrian Peterson was who I wanted but of course I had no idea he'd blow up like he has. If they couldn't get a back then I wanted them to go another year with Dayne as the starter and give him a good 300+ carries this year.

They went and brought in Green however and in so doing put Dayne back in the "splitting carries" mode that he's been grossly ineffective in for the majority of his career. Now Green is gone (Who are they kidding, he should be the 15th Texan in IR right now) and Dayne is finally starting to get rolling.

He'll never be Earl Campbell but we should thank our good fortune that he's not Reggie Bush either.

Spled
11-18-2007, 05:35 PM
It helps to have a good o-line. Chester Taylor rushed for 164 yards today using the holes created by Steve Hutchinson. They didn't miss a lot without AP.

Texans_Chick
11-18-2007, 05:57 PM
When they did the replay of his little scamper. I was watching Daynes eyes. Before the run it looked like he was thinking "I've had a good day, but I bet those posters will still say my ypc is weak." Then after "That oughta shut them up for now"

Are you sure? He might have been thinking:

"Hey, that guy in the endzone looks like he has a juicy burger. Maybe he will give it to me."

Just as possible.

Ole Miss Texan
11-18-2007, 06:30 PM
Don't really get why people are hating on him on the 4th and 1 play. It was pretty clear to me that our OL got manhandled and he was forced to try and go outside after guys were closing in there too.

I was at the game so really couldn't see perfectly but from what I saw it was on our OL. We won in the trenches on both sides of the ball (overall during the whole game) and that's why we won, imo. But if you don't convert on 4th and 1...9 times out of 10 its on the OL even though Dayne was dancing :)

sakebomb
11-18-2007, 06:55 PM
I'd rather him try to jump outside rather than break another O-lineman's leg. :cool:

Allstar
11-18-2007, 06:59 PM
Don't really get why people are hating on him on the 4th and 1 play. It was pretty clear to me that our OL got manhandled and he was forced to try and go outside after guys were closing in there too.


He's a big, fat runningback. Given the situation he is supposed to run into the manhandled line and push things foward for a yard.

Ole Miss Texan
11-18-2007, 06:59 PM
I'd rather him try to jump outside rather than break another O-lineman's leg. :cool:

That's exactly what I was thinking when the guy sitting next me was griping..saying 'just run up the middle, run into your guy!'...I turned to him and said..."Yea! Why isn't Charles Spencer out there?" Could you imagine if Eric Winston went down...that would be devastating.

Andrew6
11-18-2007, 07:03 PM
I'll take Dayne over Echimandu or whatever the hell his name is. That fumble was idiotic.

echemandu is a young back and got hit pretty good to jar that ball loose. It happens all the time. If it happened all the time that may be a different story.

axman40
11-18-2007, 07:05 PM
I, The Amazing Axman40 know for a fact Ron Dayne's thoughts were CHEESEBURGER! CHEESEBURGER! Pepsi no Coke!
:fans:

adam
11-18-2007, 08:14 PM
As long as Dayne does not fumble, and averages over 3 ypc, I'm satisfied.

Agreed. Seeing as how we seem to be emerging as a passing team, the best thing we can look for in a RB is reliability. Like him or not, Dayne is never injured and rarely fumbles (I think he only has 5 or 6 in his 8 year career), easily the most reliable RB on our roster. I hate to jinx it, but it actually seems like he is finally progressing. This is the first time that I have seen him have back to back solid outings. Keep it up, Ron.

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 08:48 PM
echemandu is a young back and got hit pretty good to jar that ball loose. It happens all the time. If it happened all the time that may be a different story.

I don't think he really got hit at all on that play. He definitely didn't get hit hard, he just coughed that ball up. If I had a DVR I would know but from what I recall it was just an "ole" give away.

adam
11-18-2007, 09:29 PM
I don't think he really got hit at all on that play. He definitely didn't get hit hard, he just coughed that ball up. If I had a DVR I would know but from what I recall it was just an "ole" give away.

Yep, pretty much. He did get hit, but if you watch the replay, you'll see that the ball was wiggling around before a hand was laid on him. It was actually pretty strange looking, it's like the ball just shot out of his hands for no reason.

drewmar74
11-18-2007, 09:32 PM
Yep, pretty much. He did get hit, but if you watch the replay, you'll see that the ball was wiggling around before a hand was laid on him. It was actually pretty strange looking, it's like the ball just shot out of his hands for no reason.

Reggie used "the force" to make the ball shoot out.

mexican_texan
11-18-2007, 09:40 PM
I got a nice little chuckle when I saw Dayne run over a few Saints, then as he was going down, he crawled over a defender to get the first.

hookinreds
11-18-2007, 10:14 PM
Don't really get why people are hating on him on the 4th and 1 play. It was pretty clear to me that our OL got manhandled and he was forced to try and go outside after guys were closing in there too.

I was at the game so really couldn't see perfectly but from what I saw it was on our OL. We won in the trenches on both sides of the ball (overall during the whole game) and that's why we won, imo. But if you don't convert on 4th and 1...9 times out of 10 its on the OL even though Dayne was dancing :)

It doesn't matter what your line is doing if your RB comes to pretty much a dead stop after taking the handoff. That was absolutely pothetic. For that distance, you don't look for holes, you hit the line and you hit it hard. If Dayne had any thoughts of trying to bounce it outside, he needs to watch more tape, he doesn't bounce anywhere. His long run was nice, and an example of what he could do if he didn't think and just ran the damn ball.

hookinreds
11-19-2007, 05:07 PM
Found this tidbit from questions to Dayne on Yahoo.

(how his performance) I did OK. I think I could have did better just by finishing off a couple runs. Like on the third- or fourth-and-one, instead of stopping I should have just hit it up in there, so I take most of the blame for it, for our running game.

Just glad he recognizes that sometimes you just have to hit it up in there. :brickwall:

Ole Miss Texan
11-19-2007, 05:13 PM
It doesn't matter what your line is doing if your RB comes to pretty much a dead stop after taking the handoff. That was absolutely pothetic. For that distance, you don't look for holes, you hit the line and you hit it hard. If Dayne had any thoughts of trying to bounce it outside, he needs to watch more tape, he doesn't bounce anywhere. His long run was nice, and an example of what he could do if he didn't think and just ran the damn ball.

No I see what your saying but it's kind of hard to run in the back of Flannigan and Weary expecting to push them forward when they are 2 yards BEHIND the line of scrimmage. If they had gotten a good push forward, Dayne just runs into the back of them... When the DT's are pushing them backwards...Dayne isn't going to do much.

I want to point out that I'm not really trying to defend Dayne here, but point out that our offensive line gets little to no push it seems on 4th and short.

hookinreds
11-19-2007, 05:19 PM
No I see what your saying but it's kind of hard to run in the back of Flannigan and Weary expecting to push them forward when they are 2 yards BEHIND the line of scrimmage. If they had gotten a good push forward, Dayne just runs into the back of them... When the DT's are pushing them backwards...Dayne isn't going to do much.

See Also: Bush Push USC v ND 2005
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/pkg/ncf/100/top_plays_65.jpg



I want to point out that I'm not really trying to defend Dayne here, but point out that our offensive line gets little to no push it seems on 4th and short.
No worries...understood and agreed that having your OL get worked on a 4th and short doesn't help.