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TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 01:58 PM
I think the Saints will go for the FG, I hope at least.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 01:59 PM
I think the Saints will go for the FG, I hope at least.

I'd really hate to see them go for and get a 1st down.

edo783
11-18-2007, 02:00 PM
Demeco breaks it up...we get the ball!

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:00 PM
I still HATE the 3 man rush!
:pirate:

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:00 PM
good play, Defense!

NitroGSXR
11-18-2007, 02:01 PM
Payton's an i-di-ot.

You kick the ball in that situation with that field position on a 4th and ten. Period.

IlliniJen
11-18-2007, 02:01 PM
I think the Saints will go for the FG, I hope at least.

Nope, another defensive stop by the Texans!!! :fans:

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:02 PM
Dayne 1st down on the rugby scrum.

edo783
11-18-2007, 02:03 PM
Salaam gets beat, but it also took to long.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:05 PM
Dayne didn't get it.

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:05 PM
WTF was Dayne doing in the backfield?

TexSon
11-18-2007, 02:05 PM
The most obvious call in the book. Dayne hesitates on fourth and a foot. Idiots.

edo783
11-18-2007, 02:06 PM
Dayne the dumb @zz dances and doesn't get 18 inches.

GuerillaBlack
11-18-2007, 02:06 PM
What the hell Dayne!

Wolf
11-18-2007, 02:06 PM
I hope we find a RB in the offseason

alphajoker
11-18-2007, 02:06 PM
Just bull doze ahead...WTF are you dancing for Dayne?!

Blazing Arrow
11-18-2007, 02:06 PM
The dancing Bear!

Will he just do somethin g he had to start in my fatasy league this week .... :gun:

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:07 PM
I hope we find a RB in the offseason

Really. This is getting old.

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:07 PM
Dayne goes disco dancing on 4th down . Saints ball. I HATE DISCO!
:texflag:

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:07 PM
The dancing Bear!

Will he just do somethin g he had to start in my fatasy league this week .... :gun:

You started DAYNE?

God, I'd hate to see your other options.

Wolf
11-18-2007, 02:08 PM
Really. This is getting old.
let me rephrase a POWER BACK

NitroGSXR
11-18-2007, 02:08 PM
The dancing Bear!

Will he just do somethin g he had to start in my fatasy league this week .... :gun:
You probably should not be playing fantasy football...

DAYNE? Lol.

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:09 PM
You probably should not be playing fantasy football...

DAYNE? Lol.

He did do well last week.

Showtime100
11-18-2007, 02:09 PM
Nice job Dexter.

EDIT: Man, Indy can't shake the Chiefs. 10-10 start of the 4th.

Wolf
11-18-2007, 02:09 PM
saints miss Joe Horn or should I say Colston does

tulexan
11-18-2007, 02:10 PM
The dancing Bear!

Will he just do somethin g he had to start in my fatasy league this week .... :gun:

Were there literally no other backs available?

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:10 PM
Nice job Dexter.

That was a hell of a defensive play. The defense has really stepped up today.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:10 PM
Our man JJ isn't having a great day today.

Wolf
11-18-2007, 02:11 PM
Nice job Dexter.

no joke and Thanks

http://www.voyager.cz/download/images/dexter.jpg


:specnatz:

NitroGSXR
11-18-2007, 02:11 PM
He did do well last week.
True that. Sitting at home certainly does keep his stats from getting any worse.

Blazing Arrow
11-18-2007, 02:11 PM
You probably should not be playing fantasy football...

DAYNE? Lol.

I could have started R. Brown .. err .. of LJ ... err M Turner .. i think i took my best option ... and that is sad!

shinerbock_girl
11-18-2007, 02:11 PM
That was a hell of a defensive play. The defense has really stepped up today.

The Defense is keeping us in this game....

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:11 PM
Our man JJ isn't having a great day today.

Maybe we should try a punt return end-around like we did on the kickoff return. :gun:

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:12 PM
True that. Sitting at home certainly does keep his stats from getting any worse.

Nice you got me. I meant the week before at oakland!

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:13 PM
Our man JJ isn't having a great day today.

7 yard return, getting it out past the 20 isn't bad. He caught the punt at the 16.

GP
11-18-2007, 02:14 PM
Dayne tries to take out the legs of one of our olinemen AGAIN.

LOL

NitroGSXR
11-18-2007, 02:15 PM
I could have started R. Brown .. err .. of LJ ... err M Turner .. i think i took my best option ... and that is sad!
Don't worry. I also own Ron Dayne and I signed him to a one year 12 million dollar contract in a league with a 54 million dollar cap. Running backs... thin in my league.

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:16 PM
We better not go for it in this situation.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:16 PM
Interesting time out. i wonder if K will go for it.

shinerbock_girl
11-18-2007, 02:16 PM
Might as well go for it

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:17 PM
is it sneakable or really a full yard?

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:17 PM
Please for the love of god, DON'T GO FOR IT!!!

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:17 PM
Just punt the ball and save the time out ,oh well too late for that.

GP
11-18-2007, 02:17 PM
I bet you the Saints score on this drive.

They are not going to keep imploding all game long (like WE do).

It's only a matter of time before Brees and his crew will get going. We need to take the ball down the field and score POINTS.

We should be ahead by more than a TD right now. Period.

Err....never mind. We got the first.

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:17 PM
Oh no, here we go. :(

Allstar
11-18-2007, 02:17 PM
One thing I do know:
If we go for it and make it, Kube is a genious
If not, he's an *****

Edit: WTF? you can't say !diot?

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:18 PM
OMG, that was stupid but it worked.

Now throw the damn ball.

Maddict5
11-18-2007, 02:18 PM
kubiak showing testicular fortitude!!

Showtime100
11-18-2007, 02:18 PM
We better not go for it in this situation.

I agreed with you before this play. The Texans D is playing well, Kubiak is pushing his luck.

Blazing Arrow
11-18-2007, 02:19 PM
QUick chose play fake and press the pum fake button two times ... :fans:

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:20 PM
Kubes has big grapefruits and I have peaches.

Allstar
11-18-2007, 02:20 PM
Kubes has big grapefruits and I have peaches.

beats my grapes. :cool:

IlliniJen
11-18-2007, 02:21 PM
Kevin Walter at RB...fine by me.

edo783
11-18-2007, 02:21 PM
KW made dang sure he got the 1st. Unlike Dayne.

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 02:21 PM
Kevin Walter with a first down run? Interesting.

TexSon
11-18-2007, 02:21 PM
Walter > Bush.

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:21 PM
Kevin Walter at RB...fine by me.

Wait, what?!

Showtime100
11-18-2007, 02:22 PM
This drive is wearing on their D. 8:00 min and counting

EDIT: More like 7 min. (and we punt)

tulexan
11-18-2007, 02:22 PM
Can we switch Walter to running back? I feel more comfortable with him over Dayne

IlliniJen
11-18-2007, 02:22 PM
Walter > Bush.

He probably has half the rushing yards that Bush does at this point.

Maddict5
11-18-2007, 02:22 PM
some people cant be pleased.. i like keeping the D fresh on the sidelines

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:24 PM
I am not liking this holding on to a 7 point lead.

shinerbock_girl
11-18-2007, 02:24 PM
He probably has half the rushing yards that Bush does at this point.

And i Agree!!!!

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:25 PM
This drive is wearing on their D. 8:00 min and counting

But we got nothing out of it. If anything its a boost to the Saints.

HJam72
11-18-2007, 02:26 PM
Anytime you have the lead, an 8 minute drive is a good thing. Well, there are exception, but we're OK here.

Showtime100
11-18-2007, 02:27 PM
Hmmm. As I type Schaub leads the week in passing yardage (279).

TEXANS84
11-18-2007, 02:27 PM
I can't see the game, but realizing that Vandermeer is the WORST football anouncer possible.

alphajoker
11-18-2007, 02:27 PM
But we got nothing out of it. If anything its a boost to the Saints.

You never know what could happen though man...we're a turnover and score away that could be a boost to the Texans.

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:27 PM
But we got nothing out of it. If anything its a boost to the Saints.

Not at all. The Saints have been sitting on the sidelines, plus we got good field position out of it.

TEXANS84
11-18-2007, 02:29 PM
What's the Saints fans to Texans fans looking like at the stadium?

brakos82
11-18-2007, 02:29 PM
Ha.

tulexan
11-18-2007, 02:30 PM
Anytime you can keep the ball out of the hands of an explosive offense like the Saints for 8 minutes, it's a good thing.

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:31 PM
Int Greenwood!

TexSon
11-18-2007, 02:31 PM
Woot!!!!!!!!!

edo783
11-18-2007, 02:31 PM
INT....happy dance breaks out!

IlliniJen
11-18-2007, 02:31 PM
Greenwood! He's looked good today. Nice interception.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:32 PM
Yes! something good happened! It's almost time for another beer for that! http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

steds
11-18-2007, 02:32 PM
Turnover. Awesome. Great opportunity to stretch the lead here.

Maddict5
11-18-2007, 02:32 PM
I can't see the game, but realizing that Vandermeer is the WORST football anouncer possible.

why? i think hes fine

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:32 PM
I know what yall are saying but my point is we need to score against such a high powered offense. If we drive for over 8 mins and get nothing it gives the opposing team a little boost in that we could not score despite how much time we had the ball. Plus, it rests their high powered O.

shinerbock_girl
11-18-2007, 02:32 PM
I'm Speechless!!!

alphajoker
11-18-2007, 02:33 PM
You never know what could happen though man...we're a turnover and score away that could be a boost to the Texans.

I called it! Now all that's left is a TD by the offense and the prophecy will come true! :fans:

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:33 PM
My first thought is play action and deep to AJ!

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:33 PM
Turnover. Awesome. Great opportunity to stretch the lead here.

Agreed. We need to run the clock down as well. We've got good field position.

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:33 PM
My first thought is play action and deep to AJ!

YES! Get a TD and step on their throat a little.

Maddict5
11-18-2007, 02:34 PM
has to be a td

Allstar
11-18-2007, 02:34 PM
There's no excuse not to score on this drive

TexSon
11-18-2007, 02:36 PM
We have not capitalized on turnovers AT ALL.

Allstar
11-18-2007, 02:36 PM
C'mon Kris!

TexSon
11-18-2007, 02:36 PM
Thank god Brown made that.

GuerillaBlack
11-18-2007, 02:36 PM
I'll take it at this point in the game.

steds
11-18-2007, 02:36 PM
Sounds like a shocking 3rd down play.

IlliniJen
11-18-2007, 02:36 PM
53 yarder by Kris!

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:36 PM
53 yarder by Brown. Atleast we got points out of it.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-18-2007, 02:37 PM
Kris Brown is $$$.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:37 PM
At least they got points from the turnover. It's a 10 pint game now.

edo783
11-18-2007, 02:37 PM
Drilled!

Maddict5
11-18-2007, 02:37 PM
needed that pretty badly.. offence has kinda stalled lately

shinerbock_girl
11-18-2007, 02:37 PM
God I Loveeee Kris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tulexan
11-18-2007, 02:37 PM
I'll take the FG, but that was a horrible possession

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:37 PM
That is not what I was thinking or hoping. Why didn't we throw to AJ, we KNOW he would have gotten a first down.

alphajoker
11-18-2007, 02:37 PM
Nice! Takes a little bit of pressure off of the D.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:38 PM
That is not what I was thinking or hoping. Why didn't we throw to AJ, we KNOW he would have gotten a first down.

I'm wondering the same thing. Why are we throwing to AJ?

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:39 PM
That is not what I was thinking or hoping. Why didn't we throw to AJ, we KNOW he would have gotten a first down.
Cause we threw a crappy swing pass to Dayne.Kubes grapefruits are
shrinking.
:fans:

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:39 PM
I am glad its a two score game, but I would be feeling more comfortable with a TD rather than an FG.

brakos82
11-18-2007, 02:40 PM
Would you have said Kris Brown>Viniateri this time last year? :shades:

alphajoker
11-18-2007, 02:41 PM
I'm wondering the same thing. Why are we throwing to AJ?

After the 1st QTR bomb, I'm sure they're doubling him as much as possible.

TexSon
11-18-2007, 02:44 PM
I wish we would quit giving up third and longs.

HoustonFrog
11-18-2007, 02:45 PM
Mario just ran over the one guy. Nice to see.

brakos82
11-18-2007, 02:46 PM
Atlanta's dead. 31-0

Showtime100
11-18-2007, 02:46 PM
I was worried about Colston today. I hope he keeps this up (hehe)

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:47 PM
I was worried about Colston today. I hope he keeps this up (hehe)

He's actually have a good day. :(

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:48 PM
so far today, Mario has been doing well. He, and the defense, now need to step it up a notch. We need to be 5-5 after today.

Wolf
11-18-2007, 02:49 PM
I should have brought protection with all the Bush love that is going on.

thinks I heard them mention Demeco 2 or 3 times
and he is all over the place

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:49 PM
Saints going for it, fga, or punt?

TexSon
11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
HUGE!!!!!!!




x

edo783
11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Bennet knocks it away.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Yes. Good job. Let's finish this. let's be 5-5.

IlliniJen
11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Faggins would have given up that play. Good on Bennett!

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
I want Shaub to get over 300 yards passing. He deserves it. He just needs 21 more passing yards.

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
OK now lets run off the clock and Win this game!
:texflag:

tulexan
11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Have the Saints gone for it every single time? It's like Payton thinks this is Madden.

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:51 PM
Bennett looks like he is proving to be a solid #2 or nickel cornerback. It seems if we were to get a high pick CB we would be pretty set at corner, assuming Dunta comes back in full form.

Allstar
11-18-2007, 02:53 PM
Bennett looks like he is proving to be a solid #2 or nickel cornerback. It seems if we were to get a high pick CB we would be pretty set at corner, assuming Dunta comes back in full form.

If Bennett pans out like that, then that's all the more reason to go to an area of bigger needs, like OL, S, RB.

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:53 PM
Andre Johnson is such a baller. This guy deserves his own bank account within McNair's bank account. Never let this guy go, I mean never.

IlliniJen
11-18-2007, 02:54 PM
LOL at Dayne...he squirmed to get that last yard there.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:54 PM
Pardon me if I say so, but.....good job Dayne.

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:54 PM
If Bennett pans out like that, then that's all the more reason to go to an area of bigger needs, like OL, S, RB.

While I agree with that, in a division with the Colts, having 3 solid cornerbacks is really necessary.

edo783
11-18-2007, 02:54 PM
Dayne gets better the more he carries.

Blazing Arrow
11-18-2007, 02:55 PM
shame on the dancing bear haters ...

2BCF
11-18-2007, 02:55 PM
LOL...

Dayne > Bush

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 02:55 PM
Pardon me if I say so, but.....good job Dayne.

Agreed the guy is running much better than he has been this year. He seems to have his games, every 4 or 5 games.

axman40
11-18-2007, 02:55 PM
Disco Dayne down to the Saints 9!
:texflag:

steds
11-18-2007, 02:55 PM
Really good drive this.

awtysst
11-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Lets get a TD and rock the house!

HoustonFrog
11-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Andre Johnson is such a baller. This guy deserves his own bank account within McNair's bank account. Never let this guy go, I mean never.

Exactly...I always shook my head when I heard people say that Andre Davis and others were playing just as well and "would he make that big of a difference" coming back.

IlliniJen
11-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Really good drive this.

Let's get a TD here. CRUSH THEM!

Showtime100
11-18-2007, 02:58 PM
That was a late Boy(n)kin hit!!

alphajoker
11-18-2007, 02:59 PM
Smart play by Schaub...keep it on the ground and keep the clock ticking to the 2min. warning.

Wolf
11-18-2007, 02:59 PM
Pardon me if I say so, but.....good job Dayne.

yeah he had a good run, was a nice cutback, I'll give him props on that one

Thorn
11-18-2007, 02:59 PM
Two minute warning. At the very least, we'll get a FG. Even if we turn over the ball, NO has to score twice.

We win today.

We are 5-5.

Good job, Texans.

alphajoker
11-18-2007, 02:59 PM
Smart play by Schaub...keep it on the ground and keep the clock ticking to the 2 min. warning.

awtysst
11-18-2007, 03:01 PM
NOt as satisfying as a TD, but points are points.

Showtime100
11-18-2007, 03:02 PM
I'm glad it's decided before we get switched to the 'Girls game.

benefactor
11-18-2007, 03:02 PM
23-10...that should about do it. Man if feels good to be healthy...

axman40
11-18-2007, 03:02 PM
5-5 for the first time in franchise history!
Happy dance time!
:specnatz:

Malloy
11-18-2007, 03:02 PM
Dayne gets better the more he carries.

Thats what he's been saying since he played for the Giants. I guess he was right ? :)

benefactor
11-18-2007, 03:03 PM
Sure wish I could've seen this game...they blacked it out for the Colts/Chiefs game...Grrrr.

2BCF
11-18-2007, 03:04 PM
5-5 for the first time in franchise history!
Happy dance time!
:specnatz:

That's right! Good call.

Allstar
11-18-2007, 03:04 PM
Is it just me, or is Brees just not as accurate as he once was?

edo783
11-18-2007, 03:04 PM
Thats what he's been saying since he played for the Giants. I guess he was right ? :)

Yup, not sure if its actually him getting stronger as the game goes along or if the defense gets tired and then slower to get to him.

GuerillaBlack
11-18-2007, 03:04 PM
Awesome win today!

2BCF
11-18-2007, 03:05 PM
Too bad the Rockets don't play today, we could go for the trifecta!

but they need their rest.

edo783
11-18-2007, 03:06 PM
5-5, good job Texans.:texflag:

steds
11-18-2007, 03:06 PM
Yay!

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 03:06 PM
Gamecenter has 3 plays run at the same time :57 seconds left.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 03:07 PM
We are now 5-5. At this point, the Texans are a better team than they have been in the past.

Progress. It's a wonderful thing.

Allstar
11-18-2007, 03:07 PM
Awesome game, got some Mario action and Andre along with the W!

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 03:07 PM
Great game! We've had more than our fair share of injuries but it's nice to see us come out with a decisive W.

edo783
11-18-2007, 03:07 PM
Sure seemed that we stopped throwing to AJ.. I wonder what was up with that. Hope he is "OK".

benefactor
11-18-2007, 03:08 PM
Gamecenter has 3 plays run at the same time :57 seconds left.
Yeah...it sucks having to depend on those things. You on Sportsline?

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 03:08 PM
Yeah...it sucks having to depend on those things. You on Sportsline?

Naw I was on NFL.com.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 03:10 PM
Mario looked good. Bush didn't.

It's a good day.

benefactor
11-18-2007, 03:10 PM
Naw I was on NFL.com.
Ive been on both and I like Sportsline's a little better. It seems like it updates faster...but it did something similar to what you said. Weird...

Malloy
11-18-2007, 03:11 PM
Yup, not sure if its actually him getting stronger as the game goes along or if the defense gets tired and then slower to get to him.

Both I think. He also seemed to run harder today, except on the 4and1 quickstep.

Dayne can get the job done, but we still need someone with speed back there to compliment him.

2BCF
11-18-2007, 03:11 PM
Maybe the Chron's Jerome needs to call-out Mario every week.

SheTitan
11-18-2007, 03:11 PM
Congrats to the Texans on the win!!

Showtime100
11-18-2007, 03:12 PM
Naw I was on NFL.com.

Does your feed always have nervous breakdowns at the wrong time?? Mine did right as Houston scored. No big deal, I had it on TV, just irritating.

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 03:12 PM
Both I think. He also seemed to run harder today, except on the 4and1 quickstep.

Dayne can get the job done, but we still need someone with speed back there to compliment him.

He seems to work on certain teams. Can't figure out what it is that allows him to run well on certain teams but it's true. Maybe he wouldn't be such a bad guy to have on the team even for next year.

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 03:13 PM
Does your feed always have nervous breakdowns at the wrong time?? Mine did right as Houston scored. No big deal, I had it on TV, just irritating.

Yea, it reset one time. Wen't back to the first play. "Matt Schaub complete for 2 yards". I'm like what in the .

TexSon
11-18-2007, 03:15 PM
Reggie Bush:

15 carries for 34 yards, 2.3 avg
12 receptions for 70 yards, 5.8 avg (awful avg)
27 touches total, 3.85 avg, ATROCIOUS

J-Russ
11-18-2007, 03:17 PM
It feels good to be back at .500 :)

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 03:18 PM
Reggie Bush:

15 carries for 34 yards, 2.3 avg
12 receptions for 70 yards, 5.8 avg (awful avg)
27 touches total, 3.85 avg, ATROCIOUS

He really isn't a bad receiver. That's actually a pretty decent average considering the type of pass plays he gets. They should just make him a receiver I am telling you, wasting time trying to get him to play running back IMO.

TexSon
11-18-2007, 03:24 PM
He really isn't a bad receiver. That's actually a pretty decent average considering the type of pass plays he gets. They should just make him a receiver I am telling you, wasting time trying to get him to play running back IMO.

He gets the same type passes that other running backs get, but he still has one of the lowest avg per receptions in the league. He catches a lot of passes but does very little with them.

adam
11-18-2007, 03:28 PM
That was a good win.

Oh, and for all of you Mario haters/Bush lovers out there:

Inloved in 6 tackles, 1 sack, and a forced fumble.

Compare this to Reggie Bush's stellar numbers: 104 total yards on 15 rushes and 12 catches (27 touches). That's an average of 3.8 yards for the should of been first round draft pick! Aren't you sad that we didn't end up with Reggie Bush and his 34 rushing yards? I really wish we would have picked him up.

:sarcasm:

TheIronDuke
11-18-2007, 03:28 PM
He gets the same type passes that other running backs get, but he still has one of the lowest avg per receptions in the league. He catches a lot of passes but does very little with them.

Andre Ware was annoying the hell out of me on this broadcast when he said that Bush is one of the greatest players in the NFL when he plays in space. I guess he didn't get enough space today. The announcers were riding Bush's jock all game long, too.

Thorn
11-18-2007, 03:31 PM
For today, Mario was on the winning team, and contributed more than Bush did for the losing team.

For today. I still say Bush will eventually be proven a bust, but only time will tell. For the big three from last year we still have much time left to prove our viewpoints.

TexSon
11-18-2007, 03:32 PM
Andre Ware was annoying the hell out of me on this broadcast when he said that Bush is one of the greatest players in the NFL when he plays in space. I guess he didn't get enough space today. The announcers were riding Bush's jock all game long, too.

I don't get this "great in space" argument either. All NFL players are good with lots of room, witness the long Dayne run off the screen against the Radiers. I think "great in space" is just a back-handed compliment for "can't get tough yards".

benefactor
11-18-2007, 03:33 PM
Andre Ware was annoying the hell out of me on this broadcast when he said that Bush is one of the greatest players in the NFL when he plays in space. I guess he didn't get enough space today. The announcers were riding Bush's jock all game long, too.
What a dumb statement. There are a lot of players that play well in space. Its the players that play well with very little space that are great. I think Brian Westbrook it ten times the player Bush is in space anyway.

benefactor
11-18-2007, 03:34 PM
I don't get this "great in space" argument either. All NFL players are good with lots of room, witness the long Dayne run off the screen against the Radiers. I think "great in space" is just a back-handed compliment for "can't get tough yards".
Looks like we read each others mind... :)

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 03:34 PM
He gets the same type passes that other running backs get, but he still has one of the lowest avg per receptions in the league. He catches a lot of passes but does very little with them.

Other running backs don't have high yards per catch for the same reason as I gave before. Look it up. He has one of the lowest avg per reception because he is a running back.

I don't like the guy either, and I think he is a crap running back, but let's not go too far.

benefactor
11-18-2007, 03:37 PM
For today, Mario was on the winning team, and contributed more than Bush did for the losing team.

For today. I still say Bush will eventually be proven a bust, but only time will tell. For the big three from last year we still have much time left to prove our viewpoints.
The funny thing is they will never actually admit he is a bust. They will just kinda quit talking about him because they know playing up a worthless player makes them look like dumbasses.

TexSon
11-18-2007, 03:54 PM
Other running backs don't have high yards per catch for the same reason as I gave before. Look it up. He has one of the lowest avg per reception because he is a running back.

I don't like the guy either, and I think he is a crap running back, but let's not go too far.

What I am saying is that EVEN FOR A RUNNING BACK HE HAS A CRAP AVERAGE.

RB's with better averages:
Brian Westbrook
Ronnie Brown
Joseph Addai
Kevin Faulk
Selvin Young
Frank Gore
Justin Fargas
Adrian Peterson
Clinton Portis
Ladanian Tomlinson
Brian Leonard
Willie Parker
Thomas Jones
Willis McGahee
Kevin Jones
Larry Johnson

btw
Ahman Green 8.8 avg
Dayne 5.8 avg

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 04:08 PM
What I am saying is that EVEN FOR A RUNNING BACK HE HAS A CRAP AVERAGE.

RB's with better averages:
Brian Westbrook
Ronnie Brown
Joseph Addai
Kevin Faulk
Selvin Young
Frank Gore
Justin Fargas
Adrian Peterson
Clinton Portis
Ladanian Tomlinson
Brian Leonard
Willie Parker
Thomas Jones
Willis McGahee
Kevin Jones
Larry Johnson

btw
Ahman Green 8.8 avg
Dayne 5.8 avg

Running backs with more catches than Reggie Bush: 0

Running backs with as many catches as Reggie Bush: 0

Reggie has 55 catches.

Westbrook has 54 with a 9.6 avg, but he is Brian Westbrook and he has been playing that roll for years and years.

Then you've got the next highest is Ronnie Brown with 39 catches and he has a 10 avg. LT has 35 catches with a 7.5 avg. LJ has 32 catches with a 6.2 avg. Willis McGahee has 29 catches with a 6.0 avg. Adrian peterson has 27 catches with a 7.7 avg. Then you've got alot in the 20's all with about 8 yards per catch.

I realize that it is low, but they throw it to him alot. I mean they throw that little swing pass, which is basically a running play, like 5-10 times a game. That little pass isn't going to get you more than 5 yards consistantly, but that is just how they run. They can't run traditionally so in order to get those run type of yards, they throw this little swing pass. Defenses gameplan against that play, the Saints run it way too often. Having NFL defenders, that swing pass isn't very hard to defend, you just need speed.

I don't think you can just look at the avg and say "hey look it's low". You've got to take into account the situation.

TexSon
11-18-2007, 04:13 PM
I agree you have to account for the situation... and he DOES catch a lot of passes.

But the bottom line is he catches a lot of passes and does very little with them, which is all I was saying in my original post. The fact is teams are not too petrified of Reggie Bush catching a 5 yard pass.

Not to mention that those other backs you mentioned are much better runners.

TexansSeminole
11-18-2007, 04:16 PM
I agree you have to account for the situation... and he DOES catch a lot of passes.

But the bottom line is he catches a lot of passes and does very little with them, which is all I was saying in my original post. The fact is teams are not too petrified of Reggie Bush catching a 5 yard pass.

That's true and I just think it proves that he will NOT be able to play running back in the NFL. The only way to get running type yards with him as the tailback is that swing pass, and when you run it as often as they do, it just takes away from it. If any coach were to move him to WR I think it would be Payton, but I don't see the Saints admitting they spent all that money on a small WR project.

Bulluck53
11-18-2007, 04:59 PM
Impressive win today. Didn't get to watch but the stats look like Schaub played lights out. The addition of AJ was huge, as anticipated. And the secondary seems to have held up exceptionally well against the New Orleans offense. I new Schaub and Johnson being back were going to make a difference but didn't think the defense would hold up it's end. Good job today, it was a big win coming out of the bye.

Hopefully we can make it a perfect 4-0 for the division this week.

dtran04
11-18-2007, 05:22 PM
Funny how the forums, paper, overall mood of fans is so quiet after a win. I wonder how many posts there would be if the Saints have won or....eek...Bush had a decent game.

Maddict5
11-18-2007, 05:25 PM
Impressive win today. Didn't get to watch but the stats look like Schaub played lights out. The addition of AJ was huge, as anticipated. And the secondary seems to have held up exceptionally well against the New Orleans offense. I new Schaub and Johnson being back were going to make a difference but didn't think the defense would hold up it's end. Good job today, it was a big win coming out of the bye.

Hopefully we can make it a perfect 4-0 for the division this week.

hopefully ye cant, we need ye to lose a couple games so we can grab that 6 spot:)

H-Town Balla#90
11-18-2007, 05:50 PM
awesome showing by MW today!!! he straight up tea-bagged not only reggie bush, but the haters aswell!!! (including the announcers)

while I was flipping between that and the Dynamo winning another championship (back to back Rockets style) I couldn't help but smile at the fact that the Texans look like a real team now! I hope they keep going at this rate, 3 more wins and we will officially be at the best record ever by this club!!! much improved over years pasted.

:fans:

GlassHalfFull
11-18-2007, 06:24 PM
What's the Saints fans to Texans fans looking like at the stadium?

There were a lot of Saints fans there today. I think an uncovered story was the effect of Katrina on the number of Saints fans at the stadium. They were pretty loud at first and tried to start Who Dat and Reggie chants. Fortunately, we were able to turn most of the chants around. Our section had a real fun, good natured Texans fan who was able to give the Saints fans lots of grief without causing animosity. We had a great time, but I sure am glad the game worked out the way it did.

MEGA SWATT
11-19-2007, 12:12 AM
great win and love having AJ back FTMFW:fans:

Mario outplaying Bush, freaking fantastic.

Texan_Bill
11-19-2007, 07:28 AM
There were a lot of Saints fans there today. I think an uncovered story was the effect of Katrina on the number of Saints fans at the stadium. They were pretty loud at first and tried to start Who Dat and Reggie chants. Fortunately, we were able to turn most of the chants around. Our section had a real fun, good natured Texans fan who was able to give the Saints fans lots of grief without causing animosity. We had a great time, but I sure am glad the game worked out the way it did.

We started a Reggie chant too....

"OVER-RATED!"