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The Dream
10-28-2007, 04:16 PM
I swear how do you let someone knock your qbs head off and no one even gets in dudes face or puts someone on the chargers on their ass............this nice clean cut image that this team has needs to go, because schaub gettng blasted on that block describes exactly what we are.........and that is SOFT.....mentally, physically, emotionally, etc...........

J-Russ
10-28-2007, 04:18 PM
Well, McNair did wanted good guys...

The Dream
10-28-2007, 04:18 PM
that's just ****ing inexcusable to let your QB get hit like that....if I was Kubes I'd be in my players faces to tell them to take someon on the chargers out..............

TheIronDuke
10-28-2007, 04:21 PM
Another problem is that we suck.

The1ApplePie
10-28-2007, 04:22 PM
I think maybe Carr spoiled us on tough QBs. The man may be a bust, but Schaub is a pansy compared to him.

The Dream
10-28-2007, 04:27 PM
I think maybe Carr spoiled us on tough QBs. The man may be a bust, but Schaub is a pansy compared to him.

wow...I really want to disagree with that considering how much I bashed David, but you're right............................. :gun:

The Dream
10-28-2007, 04:31 PM
this team is in desperate need of some street cred...........make a trade for Pacman Jones now.

stingray
10-28-2007, 04:31 PM
I think maybe Carr spoiled us on tough QBs. The man may be a bust, but Schaub is a pansy compared to him.

No. Our OL is full of panzies...

TexansSeminole
10-28-2007, 04:33 PM
I swear how do you let someone knock your qbs head off and no one even gets in dudes face or puts someone on the chargers on their ass............this nice clean cut image that this team has needs to go, because schaub gettng blasted on that block describes exactly what we are.........and that is SOFT.....mentally, physically, emotionally, etc...........

That made me so mad. Nobody stood up for him. NO REACTION AT ALL. Just watched it and walked to the sidelines. That's pathetic.

The Dream
10-28-2007, 04:33 PM
this entire team just lacks "attitude"....as much as I love Demeco, Andre, Dunta, Schaub, Okoye etc. none of them just have that mean streak in them.........Travis Johnson is our meanest player.......

Ole Miss Texan
10-28-2007, 04:34 PM
I don't think any of us needs to be calling Schaub a pansy. The guy is getting blasted constantly every single game and is playing with 4 injuries...now gets blindsided and has to sit out..and we're calling him soft!? I know yall are frustrated but yall are pathetic.

Schaub, even though has avoided a lot of sacks...he's thrown the ball away and still gotten killed. Just b/c our sacks are down doesn't mean he's not getting lit up.

We need to fix our offensive line. We've got an expensive QB that we must protect...not to mention we're barely opening holes up for the RB's...I'm tired of seeing our Rb's get hit behind the line of scrimmage and seein Schaub getting killed.

We will not be a good team until we fix our OL.

TexansSeminole
10-28-2007, 04:38 PM
We will not be a good team until we fix our OL.

How hard is this to figure out? I mean we can't run block. We can't pass block. For years now. And how many changes have been made? Pathetic.

eriadoc
10-28-2007, 04:57 PM
I swear how do you let someone knock your qbs head off and no one even gets in dudes face or puts someone on the chargers on their ass............this nice clean cut image that this team has needs to go, because schaub gettng blasted on that block describes exactly what we are.........and that is SOFT.....mentally, physically, emotionally, etc...........

Well, prior to this year, there was all kinds of speculation and conjecture that the rest of the team hated Carr, and therefore never stuck up for him. Now, I don't know.

eriadoc
10-28-2007, 04:59 PM
I don't think any of us needs to be calling Schaub a pansy. The guy is getting blasted constantly every single game and is playing with 4 injuries...now gets blindsided and has to sit out..and we're calling him soft!? I know yall are frustrated but yall are pathetic.

Schaub, even though has avoided a lot of sacks...he's thrown the ball away and still gotten killed. Just b/c our sacks are down doesn't mean he's not getting lit up.

We need to fix our offensive line. We've got an expensive QB that we must protect...not to mention we're barely opening holes up for the RB's...I'm tired of seeing our Rb's get hit behind the line of scrimmage and seein Schaub getting killed.

We will not be a good team until we fix our OL.

QFE x several years. There are more than a few of us who have been saying that very thing for a while now.

Runner
10-28-2007, 05:08 PM
QFE x several years. There are more than a few of us who have been saying that very thing for a while now.

Yes, but I was generally considered a pessimist this off-season - I couldn't see all the good things in store this year.

This team is about what they were last year. Sloppy and non-competitive for long stretches.

ubecool454
10-28-2007, 05:12 PM
I swear how do you let someone knock your qbs head off and no one even gets in dudes face or puts someone on the chargers on their ass............this nice clean cut image that this team has needs to go, because schaub gettng blasted on that block describes exactly what we are.........and that is SOFT.....mentally, physically, emotionally, etc...........

I should have checked first...i started another thread saying the same thing u just said. Someone should remind Mr Mcnair this is football.

Ole Miss Texan
10-28-2007, 05:29 PM
There are more than a few of us who have been saying that very thing for a while now.

I am one that has now turned y'alls way...starting with the Mario pick. I'm ready for us to continue on the other side of the ball and build up both lines strong. If we can dominate w/ both our lines and 'win through the trenches', we'll win a lot more games. Considering we still have a ways to go untill we're a consistent playoff team....why not build the OL and DL up...so that we can then select the skill positions that will excel from the start.

on a side note, I love your signature. haha

False Start
10-28-2007, 05:31 PM
That made me so mad. Nobody stood up for him. NO REACTION AT ALL. Just watched it and walked to the sidelines. That's pathetic.

I noticed that as well . It kinda made me a bit mad .

TexansSeminole
10-28-2007, 05:34 PM
I noticed that as well . It kinda made me a bit mad .

I don't care if it is DeMeco coming off the bench and starting some shit. Something needed to be done there. I think that play means more than people think. How do you think Schaub feels about it? That's like getting into a fight at a party and your friends stand and watch guys take cheap shots on you.

False Start
10-28-2007, 05:42 PM
oops , My bad . Wrong thread .

brakos82
10-28-2007, 05:44 PM
oops , My bad . Wrong thread .

:bat:

Vinny
10-28-2007, 05:46 PM
Well, prior to this year, there was all kinds of speculation and conjecture that the rest of the team hated Carr, and therefore never stuck up for him. Now, I don't know.

That was always an idiotic position to take. Players get paid on how they look on game film...they won't devalue themselves due to some dumb grudge.

False Start
10-28-2007, 06:04 PM
:bat:

lol: :cool:

Runner
10-28-2007, 06:08 PM
That was always an idiotic position to take. Players get paid on how they look on game film...they won't devalue themselves due to some dumb grudge.

theoretical grudge

Honoring Earl 34
10-28-2007, 06:11 PM
I don't care if it is DeMeco coming off the bench and starting some shit. Something needed to be done there. I think that play means more than people think. How do you think Schaub feels about it? That's like getting into a fight at a party and your friends stand and watch guys take cheap shots on you.

In the old days they would have planted their QB .

Ben Davidson plants Len Dawson . Buck Buchanon plants Daryl Lomanica . George Blanda kicks a field goal to win it .

You guys calling our players soft ... they show you right after their naps .

Mean Machine
10-28-2007, 06:26 PM
The hit on Schaubie and the fact that ON ONE went and laid #29 ON HIS arse SAYS IT ALL ABOUT THIS TEAM.
They just don't have the fire in their heart.
Exceptions:
Dunta
Demeco
And I'm disapointed in them for not knocking that #29 on his butt.
Take the flag, take the fine, but stand up for your team

I have never been more disgusted in 6 years of being a fan of this team.

eriadoc
10-28-2007, 07:56 PM
That was always an idiotic position to take. Players get paid on how they look on game film...they won't devalue themselves due to some dumb grudge.

Oh, I totally agree. Just pointing out the irony.

TexansSeminole
10-28-2007, 08:20 PM
The Texans are 4th worst in points allowed, allowing 209 points over 8 games. That's a little over 26 points per game.

threetoedpete
10-28-2007, 09:55 PM
I swear how do you let someone knock your qbs head off and no one even gets in dudes face or puts someone on the chargers on their ass............this nice clean cut image that this team has needs to go, because schaub gettng blasted on that block describes exactly what we are.........and that is SOFT.....mentally, physically, emotionally, etc...........

I know this isn't the PC thing to post , but I'm with you. old school. And I realize it was a clean hit....technically, someone should of had the guy in the dirt tring to rip the guys larnyx out. And further tried to kill anyone who was tring to pull him off the guy while he was tring to rip it out. MS's fault. first thing you learn playing football got a change of possession, either get in the middle of it or get away from it. You wanna watch, buy a ticket. He should of known better. A clear brain fart on MS's part. But agreed would of like to see that guy on the ground with his larnyx hanging out. Old school. They do it because we let them rough up J.J. durring the clots game.
Hunter Smith should be a marked man in our locker room. They'll keep doing it untill someone on our side decides the fine is worth it. Just from my tree we have no Carl Maucks on this squad. And these player are not playing for the team but for their own individual rice bowls.

utahmark
10-28-2007, 10:02 PM
oops , My bad . Wrong thread .

thats 5 yards baby. move em back.

False Start
10-28-2007, 10:50 PM
thats 5 yards baby. move em back.

It was a false start on # 69 . lol

Runner
10-28-2007, 11:27 PM
Ryan Young on Fox Sports had an interesting take on the Schaub cheap shot. First he pointed out that it happened right in front of two Texan lineman (replays show it was Pitts and Salaam) and they did nothing, although in his opinion there should have been retaliation.

Young went on to say that when he blocked for Testeverde, they had a scheme for interceptions. The backside tackle would protect Vinny, and the other would go after the ball carrier.

inschaubwetrust
10-29-2007, 12:19 AM
I think maybe Carr spoiled us on tough QBs. The man may be a bust, but Schaub is a pansy compared to him.

I wouldn't call Schaub a pansy, but I will agree with you on Carr. For all of his faults (and there were a lot of them, to many for him to be our starter) he was tough as nails.

brickman
10-29-2007, 07:56 AM
If I were on that team and they did that to my QB, I would have gone after the guy on the next play he was on the field and let him know why I was doing it. That would do more to bring the team together than any rah-rah meeting or anything else. You need to go into battle with guys you know are going to protect each other. Doing nothing bothers me more than losing by the lopsided score.

Dallas_Texan
11-02-2007, 09:08 AM
I know this is the most unsportsman-like thread I've ever posted, and normally I'm totally against this sort of thing, but I'm truly embarrassed that our O-linemen (and tailbacks/fullbacks) we're standing on the field when a Chargers player (two of them) made that illegal helmet to helmet on Schaub purposely, and did NOTHING. Their job is to protect the QB. When someone punks him out like that (hard enough to give him a concussion), you get in there, and make him regret it.

I'm not a violent guy typically, but you tough my wife, or kid (if I had one), and I'll take a baseball bat to your forehead without thinking twice. That's basically what he did too. He knows you're there to protect the QB. Knocking him out of the game also causes you to lose a game or two, which hurts your paycheck, which hurts your family. I know it's a stretch, but I would like to see some anger out of our guys when that happens. I want to see them take that as a personal insult, and get furious......God forbid, maybe play with some passion. (Other than the beginning of the Titans game, when they punked us, I've never seen us fight back). Is it too much to ask for some unity?

Mr teX
11-02-2007, 09:10 AM
we're soft...... that's just the hard-to-swallow truth.

HoustonFrog
11-02-2007, 09:27 AM
I wouldn't call Schaub a pansy, but I will agree with you on Carr. For all of his faults (and there were a lot of them, to many for him to be our starter) he was tough as nails.

I agree in part but in reality, at least the last 2-3 years, I wasn't sure if Carr was tough, or it was just the fact that he never stood in there and took big shots. Emmitt Smith used to be great and turning so that no one got a clean shot at him. Many times Dave would be in his protective shell before guys even got to him. But he had a good injury record.

WWJD
11-02-2007, 09:32 AM
I agree in part but in reality, at least the last 2-3 years, I wasn't sure if Carr was tough, or it was just the fact that he never stood in there and took big shots. Emmitt Smith used to be great and turning so that no one got a clean shot at him. Many times Dave would be in his protective shell before guys even got to him. But he had a good injury record.

The only scary injury I remembe Emmitt ever having was a hit on his noggin he took in Chicago and I'm not even sure I remember anybody hitting him...he jumped over a pack of players at the goal line and ended up landing on his head/neck. He had that "no feeling" sensation for a few seconds I think but I do believe he played the next week.

He did play the one game with a separated shoulder during a playoff game with the Giants. Emmitt just had a ton of heart.

Double Barrel
11-02-2007, 09:52 AM
The team seems to value 'high character' guys with nice smiles and niiiiiiiiice personalities. It is part of marketing a "family friendly" atmosphere, and I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that if the market continues to support habitually losing teams, then why should the Texans FO change the formula?

Twitch-Houston
11-02-2007, 10:02 AM
we're soft...... that's just the hard-to-swallow truth.

Not soft......."Nice guys"......per the marketing department. You know what they say about nice guys.......

HoustonFrog
11-02-2007, 10:03 AM
The team seems to value 'high character' guys with nice smiles and niiiiiiiiice personalities. It is part of marketing a "family friendly" atmosphere, and I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that if the market continues to support habitually losing teams, then why should the Texans FO change the formula?

You summed up how I have felt for awhile. Its like watching a team resign guys that haven't done a thing but the team thinks, "this is the year" or "he offers us X, even though he doesn't give us Y or Z." (say Astros with Lane or Everett, etc) You never break that mold so no one knows what could happen. I just get tired of hearing "he works hard, give him/them time." After Year 5, fans don't have time. They want results. Its almost like they look at it as if we are in a never ending expansion mode and that people should have patience. I have none and am tired of watching the same results.

TexansSB07
11-02-2007, 10:13 AM
That made me so mad. Nobody stood up for him. NO REACTION AT ALL. Just watched it and walked to the sidelines. That's pathetic.

if you WATCHED the game he was hit AFTER an interception, so most players were moving towards ball not looking back. I guess you would have preferred us getting offsetting penalties costing us yardage:gun:

HoustonFrog
11-02-2007, 10:20 AM
if you WATCHED the game he was hit AFTER an interception, so most players were moving towards ball not looking back. I guess you would have preferred us getting offsetting penalties costing us yardage:gun:

If you want an honest answer...at that point in the game and how it was going...I'd much rather have seen someone go knock the guys block off. It would have been the one highlight. Remember George Teague when TO ran to the star at Texas Stadium?Mad respect for that hit. Show some heart and take up for the QB.

powerfuldragon
11-02-2007, 10:28 AM
like charmin...


(i was going to say kleenex cottonelle with ripples due to it's glowing reviews at amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Kleenex-Cottonelle-Toilet-Unscented-Ripples/dp/B00005361M) (people call it the softest best toilet paper ever) but the name's just too damn long)

(http://www.amazon.com/Kleenex-Cottonelle-Toilet-Unscented-Ripples/dp/B00005361M)

Porky
11-02-2007, 10:33 AM
I totally agree with the majority.

Hunter Smith gets away with an unneccesary shove. Our team doesn't respond.

Jax runs over us physically on both sides of the ball. Our team lays down.

Haynesworth pile drives our QB into the ground. Our team does nothing.

Florence blindsides our QB with a dirty hit. Our team lays down.

Soft? That doesn't even cover it.

Mario is the posterboy of SOFT
The whole offensive line - SOFT. Spencer had a mean streak, and he would have cracked Florence's skull. The rest of these guys should appear in a charmin commercial. :devilpig:

infantrycak
11-02-2007, 10:51 AM
Haynesworth pile drives our QB into the ground. Our team does nothing.

I guess people have short memories when making a point. Earlier in that same game Winston had to be restrained from fighting with Bullock and from confronting the official the first time Schaub was hit.

Honoring Earl 34
11-02-2007, 11:53 AM
I guess people have short memories when making a point. Earlier in that same game Winston had to be restrained from fighting with Bullock and from confronting the official the first time Schaub was hit.

I would like a mean streak on every down not just when the QB gets popped .

What does this mean ... it means that you drive your man until the whistle blows .

It means that on a sweep , I got DBs scared because they know I'm looking to squish them .

I want guys who don't make dumb penalties at the absolute worst times . Why are they making dumb penalties ... cause they're afraid of getting beat .
It means the guy across from me knows I'm a 110% guy all day long .

I won't my OL to take it personally when there's a sack and not let it happen again .

infantrycak
11-02-2007, 12:07 PM
I want guys who don't make dumb penalties at the absolute worst times . Why are they making dumb penalties ... cause they're afraid of getting beat .

So now we are back to being seers who know the hearts of all men? Couldn't be that Pitts or whomever is over anxious to hit his guy or that a dumb penalty is just that, being dumb. Naah, it has to be fear.

spurstexanstros
11-02-2007, 12:37 PM
The problem with our team is not that they are soft its due to the fact they cant stop anyone on third down. Thats not soft that is inept.

cuppacoffee
11-02-2007, 12:41 PM
I totally agree with the majority.

Hunter Smith gets away with an unneccesary shove. Our team doesn't respond.

Jax runs over us physically on both sides of the ball. Our team lays down.

Haynesworth pile drives our QB into the ground. Our team does nothing.

Florence blindsides our QB with a dirty hit. Our team lays down.

Soft? That doesn't even cover it.

Mario is the posterboy of SOFT
The whole offensive line - SOFT. Spencer had a mean streak, and he would have cracked Florence's skull. The rest of these guys should appear in a charmin commercial. :devilpig:


More fuel

Shawne Merriman was enraged. He was yelling before and after plays.

“I'm gonna hit the next (bleeper) in the mouth that I see,” he screamed more than a few times.

( do you think our players could hear what he was yelling?)

He could hardly believe the Houston Texans were running the ball, down by 32points this past Sunday.

“They just didn't want the game to get ugly,” Merriman said. “I was (ticked) off. I want to hit the quarterback. . . . Hell, yeah, I was frustrated. I was ready to start a fight at any point in that game.”

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20071102-9999-1s2chargers.html

Someone needs to tell Merriman that our guys won't fight.

Actually he was mostly upset because he wasn't able to add to his sack total because we were still attempting to run the ball.

:coffee:

Texan_Bill
11-02-2007, 12:47 PM
Hell, yeah, I was frustrated. I was ready to start a fight at any point in that game.

Sounds like someone is cycling again?!?! :pirate:

Honoring Earl 34
11-02-2007, 01:21 PM
I for one and SICK TO DEATH of the "good guys" image that Houston sports seem to have. Everybody hates Steinbrenner(sp) and Jerry Jones...but at least you've gotta admire that those guys are willing to spend money and TAKE RISKS!!! Everybody had all but given up on TO and Jones rolled the dice. Could it backfire on him? Sure it could. But to be honest...the guy was great last year and has worked out well for the Cowboys.

Our ownership has got to get over this ridiculous hump of "good guys" and "give them time and they'll come around." Much like you guys...I'm ready to start seeing some results!!!


You know how Texans feel about their football .

We want a winner that can run the ball down your throat .

We want a defense that's feared because they're as nasty as they are talented . That way we can be extremely noisy and do our part to help .

We want a larger than life QB who does'nt flinch . Indiana Jones in pads if you will .

We want a coach that's part Will Rogers part Gen. Patton .

We would like to be in Super Bowl contention every year .

That's my 2cents .

badboy
11-02-2007, 01:25 PM
if you WATCHED the game he was hit AFTER an interception, so most players were moving towards ball not looking back. I guess you would have preferred us getting offsetting penalties costing us yardage:gun:DAMN STRAIGHT SKIPPY! I am glad to see this thread and put off reading because I thought content was about something else. I posted Monday after the game on another thread that no one reacted to Schaub being "assasinated". Don't bring any crap about team not looking. The game went on for a long time after that hit. All had a chance to find out what happened. Listen, you do not have to be a thug to have loyalty to your team. I get P.O. when TJ or someone hits an opponent out of bounds or really late. But, arrgh! I was so mad I did a Kris brown field goal kick and almost threw my hip out. I wanted to tackle my tv.

HoustonFrog
11-02-2007, 01:28 PM
I haven't had the luxury of being able to actually SEE a Texans game this season...so I'm going to comment on what I've seen in the limited "highlights" and what I've read on the boards.

Everybody round these parts knows that I'm an Oilers fan from way back. The family had season tickets and we were there every Sunday. It was one of the greatest memories from my childhood.

The point for bringing that up was because the Oilers of the late 80s and early 90s had some swagger. They had attitude. Even with softspoken guys like Ray Childress...I saw him tie up with Olineman on MANY occassions because of this or that. Our team has NO ATTITUDE!!! We had guys like Cris Dishman & Lamar Lathom & Doug Smith and the list goes on and on and on.

With coaches like Jerry Glanville & D-coordinators like Buddy Ryan...WE HAD ATTITUDE!!! Win or Lose...people left the Dome knowing that they'd seen a fight and that their boys gave it everything they had!!!

I realize that everybody doesn't look at things the same way...but unless we get a guy in the locker room and on the field that can provide a SPARK...I think that we're bound for a few more years of mediocrity. It's common knowledge that unless a pond gets "stirred" it will become stagnant(sp). We've got descent leadership...but NO ENERGY!!! Nothing to spark us and get something going.

I for one and SICK TO DEATH of the "good guys" image that Houston sports seem to have. Everybody hates Steinbrenner(sp) and Jerry Jones...but at least you've gotta admire that those guys are willing to spend money and TAKE RISKS!!! Everybody had all but given up on TO and Jones rolled the dice. Could it backfire on him? Sure it could. But to be honest...the guy was great last year and has worked out well for the Cowboys.

Our ownership has got to get over this ridiculous hump of "good guys" and "give them time and they'll come around." Much like you guys...I'm ready to start seeing some results!!!

My two cents at least.

Must spread some around.....

Second Honeymoon
11-02-2007, 01:50 PM
I haven't had the luxury of being able to actually SEE a Texans game this season...so I'm going to comment on what I've seen in the limited "highlights" and what I've read on the boards.

Everybody round these parts knows that I'm an Oilers fan from way back. The family had season tickets and we were there every Sunday. It was one of the greatest memories from my childhood.

The point for bringing that up was because the Oilers of the late 80s and early 90s had some swagger. They had attitude. Even with softspoken guys like Ray Childress...I saw him tie up with Olineman on MANY occassions because of this or that. Our team has NO ATTITUDE!!! We had guys like Cris Dishman & Lamar Lathom & Doug Smith and the list goes on and on and on.

With coaches like Jerry Glanville & D-coordinators like Buddy Ryan...WE HAD ATTITUDE!!! Win or Lose...people left the Dome knowing that they'd seen a fight and that their boys gave it everything they had!!!

I realize that everybody doesn't look at things the same way...but unless we get a guy in the locker room and on the field that can provide a SPARK...I think that we're bound for a few more years of mediocrity. It's common knowledge that unless a pond gets "stirred" it will become stagnant(sp). We've got descent leadership...but NO ENERGY!!! Nothing to spark us and get something going.

I for one and SICK TO DEATH of the "good guys" image that Houston sports seem to have. Everybody hates Steinbrenner(sp) and Jerry Jones...but at least you've gotta admire that those guys are willing to spend money and TAKE RISKS!!! Everybody had all but given up on TO and Jones rolled the dice. Could it backfire on him? Sure it could. But to be honest...the guy was great last year and has worked out well for the Cowboys.

Our ownership has got to get over this ridiculous hump of "good guys" and "give them time and they'll come around." Much like you guys...I'm ready to start seeing some results!!!

My two cents at least.

great points. it's gonna take a Reggie White-type move at the player level and/or a Bill Cowher-type move at the coach level to have a better chance at turning this thing around. Remember when we had guys like Sharper and Glenn on defense. yeah, we werent the best defense in the league but we had veterans who led by example and we at least resembled an NFL defense even during the Texans inaugural season. We let those guys go and next thing you know we are struggling on defense.

it's gonna take $$ to lure coaches to Houston. Pure and simple. McNair just have to be willing to do it and we can't worry about hurting coaches feelings. Coaching doesnt count against salary cap so I would rather McNair make a big splash with coaching and continue the mindset of building through the draft (which is the only way to be truly successful).

Runner
11-02-2007, 05:11 PM
if you WATCHED the game he was hit AFTER an interception, so most players were moving towards ball not looking back. I guess you would have preferred us getting offsetting penalties costing us yardage:gun:

And he was right in front of the two off side lineman who had to go past him to get to the ball carrier. They could have cleaned Florence's clock legally because, as you say, the play was still going on. I saw that by WATCHING the game and replays.

Corrosion
11-02-2007, 05:20 PM
I havent bothered to read the entire thread .... but im gonna give my opinion .

I dont think the hit was Illegal . I dont think the NFL shoulda fined the guy .

Schaub threw a pick and took a step in the direction of the play . He becomes a defender .... making him a target . If I was a defender I woulda drilled him too .....

On the other hand .... The rest of the offensive team should be hung by their toe nails for not putting that guy on his ass on every play from that point on . If im an O-Linemen Im head-hunting that player for the duration of the game .... just to send the message that you dont hit my QB . :bat:

threetoedpete
11-02-2007, 06:37 PM
Ryan Young on Fox Sports had an interesting take on the Schaub cheap shot. First he pointed out that it happened right in front of two Texan lineman (replays show it was Pitts and Salaam) and they did nothing, although in his opinion there should have been retaliation.

Young went on to say that when he blocked for Testeverde, they had a scheme for interceptions. The backside tackle would protect Vinny, and the other would go after the ball carrier.

Well on his tuesday show on 610 he said he was watching the play down feild (Pitts) and didn't see the incident. Hollywood john's stance: saying they should of got even but done it in such a way as had the guy clipped with a TE on a crossing route. He also said we weren't 'wise' enoungh to figure that out at the time. I'm not a blood thristy indiviual. But you cannot let this sort of thing go unchecked. Sherriff Rodger with the 15k fine just told us...you handle it. As it should be. So either they handle it or we keep getting players blasted. No consequnces, why shouldn't they do it ? So what are we going to do about this ? Sheriff Rodger just pasted a target on all of our players. Don't care about MS's rice bowl...maybe they get tuned into their own.