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rockjgl
10-24-2007, 07:10 PM
I am green at this so I need some advice. I am buying a PSL from an individual. My question is when should I pay him? I dont want to give someone money before I get the license- and possibly get ripped off. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Rookie

Yankee_In_TX
10-24-2007, 07:14 PM
No truly safe way to do it.

First, call the Texans and verify that your seller owns the seats.

Then, have him completely fill out the transfer form. I would advise you give him half the money when you get the form, and half the money when the transfer goes through.

Hardcore Texan
10-24-2007, 08:52 PM
Or you could let me buy it....just kidding (sort of), I would go with Yankee's suggestion.

TexansMVP
10-25-2007, 12:31 PM
I agree with Yankee, but the only thing different I did was that I also called the Texans a second time after the seller made the transfer request to make sure that they actually had the request filled out with me as the new owner on it before I signed.

Yankee_In_TX
10-25-2007, 12:33 PM
I agree with Yankee, but the only thing different I did was that I also called the Texans a second time after the seller made the transfer request to make sure that they actually had the request filled out with me as the new owner on it before I signed.

Why did the seller mail in the request?

when I've bought PSL's, I have the seller request the request, fill out his part(s), then I put my name on it and mail it in.

hollywood_texan
10-25-2007, 12:37 PM
Good advice above.

I bought some more PSLs last offseason, but it was the guys next to my seats and we had talked about it for several seasons already. Those guys are legit.

Nevertheless, I took precautions and the Texans were very helpful in the paperwork and working with me to make sure everything was in order on the transaction before payment was made.

Call the Texans office, there is a person that handles these type of transactions. Make sure the paperwork is in order before you pay. They will understand your concerns as the buyer.

ubecool454
10-25-2007, 12:38 PM
Why did the seller mail in the request?

when I've bought PSL's, I have the seller request the request, fill out his part(s), then I put my name on it and mail it in.

I bought my second set of psl seats last year. The best thing to do is go to the Texans website for info or better, just call the Texans offices at 832-667-2002 and ask the people that would know it all. Thats what I did to be safe and make the transaction smooth.

ubecool454
10-25-2007, 12:39 PM
Good advice above.

I bought some more PSLs last offseason, but it was the guys next to my seats and we had talked about it for several seasons already. Those guys are legit.

Nevertheless, I took precautions and the Texans were very helpful in the paperwork and working with me to make sure everything was in order on the transaction before payment was made.

Call the Texans office, there is a person that handles these type of transactions. Make sure the paperwork is in order before you pay. They will understand your concerns as the buyer.

well hollywood beat me to it..lol

Yankee_In_TX
10-25-2007, 12:39 PM
I bought my second set of psl seats last year. The best thing to do is go to the Texans website for info or better, just call the Texans offices at 832-667-2002 and ask the people that would know it all. Thats what I did to be safe and make the transaction smooth.

There's still uncertainty that can only be worked out between the seller and buyer.

it would be nice to have all the paperwork finalized and in the Texans' hands, but most sellers are gonna' demand money before you get to that point. That's why I suggested splitting the transaction into two payments.

hollywood_texan
10-25-2007, 12:42 PM
well hollywood beat me to it..lol
We met at the Miami game?

It was back by the smoking section in front of that little bar thing?

ubecool454
10-25-2007, 12:53 PM
We met at the Miami game?

It was back by the smoking section in front of that little bar thing?

May have..I had on my White Mario Williams Jersery that day

Hardcore Texan
10-25-2007, 01:06 PM
I appreciate all the advice as well as I am on the look out for some PSL's.....I'll see how it goes, hopefully I can find a pretty fair deal or I will end up with nosebleeds. I don't know how much I am going to be able to spend yet.

hollywood_texan
10-25-2007, 01:13 PM
I appreciate all the advice as well as I am on the look out for some PSL's.....I'll see how it goes, hopefully I can find a pretty fair deal or I will end up with nosebleeds. I don't know how much I am going to be able to spend yet.

My advice on purhcasing, is finding a buyer without going through ebay or something similar.

Network with Texan fans if you can, you probably will find a motivated buyer.

My opinion, paying a bit of a premium on some seats is advisable. The higher you get up though, there probably shouldn't be a premium, if any.

Hardcore Texan
10-25-2007, 01:19 PM
My advice on purhcasing, is finding a buyer without going through ebay or something similar.

Network with Texan fans if you can, you probably will find a motivated buyer.

My opinion, paying a bit of a premium on some seats is advisable. The higher you get up though, there probably shouldn't be a premium, if any.

I agree, the closer I get to field level the more I would be willing to part with.

Is there anyway to know what the PSL's sold for at face value. I see a lot people on Ebay and the like say: "These PSL's are basically face value" and they are asking between 4-5K for 2 seats that are between the 30's. I would like to know how much mark up these guys are charging.

hollywood_texan
10-25-2007, 01:22 PM
I agree, the closer I get to field level the more I would be willing to part with.

Is there anyway to know what the PSL's sold for at face value. I see a lot people on Ebay and the like say: "These PSL's are basically face value" and they are asking between 4-5K for 2 seats that are between the 30's. I would like to know how much mark up these guys are charging.

End zone PSLs (lower level/BullPen) were sold at $600 a seat.

I am not sure about the others but that is where it starts on the lower level.

The Texans office probably can give you that info. They have always been very helpful when I call about anything.

Yankee probably knows all that stuff too.

Hardcore Texan
10-25-2007, 01:23 PM
Here's an example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Houston-Texans-PSLs-lower-level-playoff-rights_W0QQitemZ270177937517QQihZ017QQcategoryZ161 22QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now, IMHO these are good seats, I would love to have these seats, but if the PSL's are 5K.....for this area then that is more than I expected. LOL...I better start doing better trading stock options so I can afford seats even close to this.

Yankee_In_TX
10-25-2007, 01:25 PM
Here's an example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Houston-Texans-PSLs-lower-level-playoff-rights_W0QQitemZ270177937517QQihZ017QQcategoryZ161 22QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now, IMHO these are good seats, I would love to have these seats, but if the PSL's are 5K.....for this area then that is more than I expected. LOL...I better start doing better trading stock options so I can afford seats even close to this.

LOL, I love how they toss in a bullpen picture.

GENERAL rule of thumb for "face value" of PSL's is a little over the season ticket cost for that seat.

Hardcore Texan
10-25-2007, 01:26 PM
End zone PSLs (lower level/BullPen) were sold at $600 a seat.

I am not sure about the others but that is where it starts on the lower level.

The Texans office probably can give you that info. They have always been very helpful when I call about anything.

Yankee probably knows all that stuff too.


To me, that is very reasonable, i would jump all over that, so the mark up is 400-500%.

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Houston-Texans-PSL-PSLS-RARE-Bullpen-Parking-Pass_W0QQitemZ230184058290QQihZ013QQcategoryZ16122 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yankee_In_TX
10-25-2007, 01:27 PM
To me, that is very reasonable, i would jump all over that, so the mark up is 400-500%.

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Houston-Texans-PSL-PSLS-RARE-Bullpen-Parking-Pass_W0QQitemZ230184058290QQihZ013QQcategoryZ16122 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ebay
bad - WAY overpriced; I bought mine after 2-14 and paid about 250% markup
good - the only way to get seats in some sections (outside lucky timing and networking)

Hardcore Texan
10-25-2007, 01:30 PM
Ebay
bad - WAY overpriced; I bought mine after 2-14 and paid about 250% markup
good - the only way to get seats in some sections (outside lucky timing and networking)

yeah, I agree, I know ebay is way overpriced, but just using it as an example here.......I plan on being patient and hope some networking and luck come along.

ubecool454
10-25-2007, 01:37 PM
try this guy...he has these listed on the texans message board.....bcojrtexans
Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1


PSL for sale 2008 season

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PSL for sale, 2 seats section 102 Row C with Red parking pass.
Third row near vip tunnel. Email if interested.
.....

Yankee_In_TX
10-25-2007, 01:37 PM
yeah, I agree, I know ebay is way overpriced, but just using it as an example here.......I plan on being patient and hope some networking and luck come along.

And get some scratch together. Say "if seats come along in X (be VERY specific) I will pay up to Y."

Sometimes, those once in a lifetime seats come along just that. In the meantime, don't overpay for seats you aren't drooling over!

hollywood_texan
10-25-2007, 01:37 PM
May have..I had on my White Mario Williams Jersery that day

I was drinking heavily that weekend, but according to my recollection, it wasn't you.

I remember a girl wearing a red AJ jersey.

Yankee_In_TX
10-25-2007, 01:38 PM
try this guy...he has these listed on the texans message board.....bcojrtexans
Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1


PSL for sale 2008 season

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PSL for sale, 2 seats section 102 Row C with Red parking pass.
Third row near vip tunnel. Email if interested.
.....


LOL, might sell tham faster if he said "cheerleader tunnel" instead!

ubecool454
10-25-2007, 01:39 PM
I agree, the closer I get to field level the more I would be willing to part with.

Is there anyway to know what the PSL's sold for at face value. I see a lot people on Ebay and the like say: "These PSL's are basically face value" and they are asking between 4-5K for 2 seats that are between the 30's. I would like to know how much mark up these guys are charging.

If they are between the 30s then $2500 per seat is very fair. I am at the 15 yd line lowers and I paid $1900 for one seat originally.

ubecool454
10-25-2007, 01:42 PM
LOL, might sell tham faster if he said "cheerleader tunnel" instead!

THATS A FACT JACK!

Andrew6
10-25-2007, 01:42 PM
PSLs endzone are 600 a peice. 900 for for the corners and goes up from there. I also think that the endzone mezz is 900 a psl.

ubecool454
10-25-2007, 01:45 PM
Buy those psls now, because if the texans put together a winning season this year or next and make the playoffs..lookout! I have seen my brothers and dads panthers psls go from I think $3500 in 1995 to over $10k now if they wanted to sell.

Hardcore Texan
10-25-2007, 02:00 PM
try this guy...he has these listed on the texans message board.....bcojrtexans
Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1


PSL for sale 2008 season

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PSL for sale, 2 seats section 102 Row C with Red parking pass.
Third row near vip tunnel. Email if interested.
.....

thanks, I just emailed him, but judging by the other interested people being snubbed and it has been two weeks since his post....it doesn't look great. I have nothing but time however.:)