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Fox
10-19-2007, 11:55 AM
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2007/10/kubiak_schaub_e.html

In Justice's chron.com blog he says Mario basically had a melt down in wednesday's media session and that he's been pretty unapproachable in recent weeks. I've never seen him to be a very media friendly person since he's gotten here, but I thought this year might be easier for him than his rookie year when the draft results were still hot off the press. I haven't seen or heard anything from the near "melt down", anyone have any info?

In other news, VY has been testy lately as well apparently.

stingray
10-19-2007, 12:04 PM
I think he has had alot of pressure since he came in and it might be affecting him. It's not his fault with what happened in the 06 draft. But he has to produce and he really hasn't. He's been ok but not the player he was supposed to be. He's on pace to record 8 sacks this year which isn't bad but I expected double digits.

Vinny
10-19-2007, 12:07 PM
I don't perceive Mario as very smart. He put a lot of pressure on himself by predicting that he will break the NFL sack record.....I thought it was dumb then, and it looks even dumber now.

stingray
10-19-2007, 12:12 PM
I don't perceive Mario as very smart. He put a lot of pressure on himself by predicting that he will break the NFL sack record.....I thought it was dumb then, and it looks even dumber now.

I think it's more of a maturity issue than inteligence or maybe both. But luckily, he is young and has time to become smarter and more mature.

houstonhurricane
10-19-2007, 12:16 PM
I don't perceive Mario as very smart. He put a lot of pressure on himself by predicting that he will break the NFL sack record.....I thought it was dumb then, and it looks even dumber now.

Vinny,

I had never heard of that guarantee. When did Mario say that? Why in the world would any young kid come out and say something as ridiculous as that??

YoungTexanFan
10-19-2007, 12:16 PM
I don't perceive Mario as very smart. He put a lot of pressure on himself by predicting that he will break the NFL sack record.....I thought it was dumb then, and it looks even dumber now.

In all fairness to him, he didn't predict that he would break it, he just said he would like to. Which is an admirable goal for any young DE.

infantrycak
10-19-2007, 12:18 PM
Sure would be nice if Justice would up his journalistic standards and actually report what happened rather than just throwing out a provocative meltdown description.

In all fairness to him, he didn't predict that he would break it, he just said he would like to. Which is an admirable goal for any young DE.

That's the way I heard it as well.

Yankee_In_TX
10-19-2007, 12:22 PM
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2007/10/kubiak_schaub_e.html
In other news, VY has been testy lately as well apparently.

Off topic - I liked what VY said Wednesday. He said get over it (the passing on him returning to Houston, etc. thing) - he gave everyone what they wanted last year, this is just another division game.

Texans_Chick
10-19-2007, 12:22 PM
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2007/10/kubiak_schaub_e.html

In Justice's chron.com blog he says Mario basically had a melt down in wednesday's media session and that he's been pretty unapproachable in recent weeks. I've never seen him to be a very media friendly person since he's gotten here, but I thought this year might be easier for him than his rookie year when the draft results were still hot off the press. I haven't seen or heard anything from the near "melt down", anyone have any info?

In other news, VY has been testy lately as well apparently.

I saw the video of the VY thing. It was no big deal. And Justice makes it out to being a bigger thing than it was. Solomon had the exact quotes and didn't exaggerate it into something it wasn't.

He doesn't provide much info as far was what Williams has said or done so it is hard to judge if Justice is making something out of nothing.

I don't trust most of the Chronicle reporting on Williams because of their emotionality about his pick and the incomplete reporting that they do related to him. Basically, the only semi-rational stuff on Williams that I've read in the Chronicle comes from Solomon and Zierlein. I don't always agree with what they say, but I don't feel like they are trying to be deliberately misleading.

McClain thinks it is his role to get Mario mad. He's said that repeatedly. I would settle for accurate. If that's what he sees his role as, well then, the local media shouldn't be surprised if Mario gets a little terse. He has never had particularly fair coverage in the newspaper.

I think there are legitimate criticisms of Mario's play, but I think usually McClain and Justice miss the mark about what they say.

Texans_Chick
10-19-2007, 12:23 PM
Vinny,

I had never heard of that guarantee. When did Mario say that? Why in the world would any young kid come out and say something as ridiculous as that??

He said it was a goal of his. He said it in an interview with Matt Mosley of ESPN.

Vinny
10-19-2007, 12:27 PM
I saw the video of the VY thing. It was no big deal. And Justice makes it out to being a bigger thing than it was. Solomon had the exact quotes and didn't exaggerate it into something it wasn't.

If anyone wants to see the video of this they can just click here (http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/2003/titans/demand/v_texans101707.rm&proto=rtsp). Justice is pandering again.

dtran04
10-19-2007, 12:30 PM
I would have a very hard time being nice/cordial to people that belittle you every chance they get. When he does have a good game, it's usually a backhanded compliment.

Vince is being a teamplayer and not putting himself above the team. Good move on his part. Of course he is lying but its a good thing to say.

HoustonFrog
10-19-2007, 12:30 PM
I saw the VY interview last night and it wasn't bad at all. He basically said last year was different and he made his point and this year he just wanted to win a division game and that we had a different team now. Respect for that.

Errant Hothy
10-19-2007, 12:31 PM
If anyone wants to see the video of this they can just click here (http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/2003/titans/demand/v_texans101707.rm&proto=rtsp). Justice is pandering again.

As evident by the following:

Why dont u guys jump on A. Weavers back? This guy has done nothing since we signed him!

It's a lot more fun to jump Mario.--
Richard]

Posted by: Ryan at October 18, 2007 04:06 PM

Dick has an agenda, and he will pursue that agenda...journalism and professionalism be damned.

Texans_Chick
10-19-2007, 12:31 PM
BTW, I am thinking that Richard Justice might be a coward of the highest level.

I often make comments in Chronicle blogs. Up until recently, they all get published. Except for on Justice's blog. I guess I am on his bad list. It happened to me once before, I just blew it off as maybe a mistake. But it happened again, so I am guessing I am blackballed. Here's what I wrote that he or someone else there was too chicken to publish. (Which is amazing, because they publish all sorts of ugly irrational stuff):

I have to say that I read your report with some skepticism. I saw on video what Vince Young said to reporters, and it really didn't seem to be a big deal. Jerome Solomon didn't report what Young said with the prima donna spin the way you discussed it, and I wonder if you are exaggerating with the Williams stuff too.

Or maybe you are just sensitive. If so, please do not take the following as something meant to be mean to you. I am saying this because I love sports pages, and want to feel like I can trust the content of the sports page because of the access that you guys have to the players and because I like to read the paper during breakfast.

The Houston Chronicle, as a whole, doesn't have a particularly good track record of being honest and fair about Williams because of the emotion surrounding the pick.

When he was chosen, the front page of the Chronicle had him listed with the worst draft busts of all time. You said the choice of Williams "smacked of stupidity" and was "dumb."

The Chronicle provided very little information about his background as a player other than that he was a physical specimen. Most basic biographical information I know about him I had to look up from other places.

Some of the columnists have said repeatedly that they feel like their job is to "make Mario mad" so that he plays better. But I suppose if he actually gets mad at you guys, that's not okay.

I believe for some, he unfairly becomes the whipping boy for all the failures of the Texans defense. It doesn't matter if ND Kalu took responsibility for a missed assignment with the big Fred Taylor run at the beginning of the game, because it is more convenient to slag Mario because he isn't Vince.

Here's some fun facts that most fans wouldn't know about Mario Williams if they just read the Chronicle:

Unlike what McClain's pretend conversation with the late great Joel Buchsbaum implied, Mario Williams wasn't just a combine wonder. He had a great college career with career and junior year stats comparable to Julius Pepper a guy who played in the same conference. (I'm not saying he is the same sort of player, but instead I'm just pointing this out that he wasn't just a combine guy. He came out as a true junior and not a redshirt junior like Peppers. And he did this despite having three different defensive coaches in three years, each of them wanting him to have different roles. Williams was his team's MVP his junior year).

Or how about this, if you only want to judge line play by just looking at whether a guy got a sack. Amobi Okoye and Mario Williams have a combined sack total higher than any other line tandem in the AFC.

I think there is some legitimate criticism that can be made of Williams' play this year, but rarely do I read that in the paper. I haven't seen much evidence for example that he plays with no "mo-ta" as McClain imagined Buchsbaum saying, but rather sometimes he plays hard but not smart. I think as he plays more, his football IQ will increase, but that's something that we will be able to judge through time.

What the legacy of Joel Buchsbaum means is that you can't trust newspaper guys to tell you the truth about players. Buchsbaum researched things himself and watched the games himself and made up his own mind about player. (Of course, he probably needed to get more of a life, but that is a different story).

I like the Chronicle coverage on some things, but I don't particularly trust it as it relates to Williams because of the emotion with that pick. I think a lot of the coverage from the moment he was signed has been unfair and de-humanizing and that I had to look up stuff my ownself just to get basic information about him.

Maybe you are completely correct that Williams has been out of line with local reporters and has no reason to be distrustful with them. But you can also see why at least some of us wonder if what we are reading about him is the truth or a shade of the truth or just an exaggeration.

hollywood_texan
10-19-2007, 12:32 PM
I have heard several times that when Mario gets mad or upset, he takes care of business.

Is he mad or upset this week?

If so, probably means a good thing!

Mario, go get'em!

Vinny
10-19-2007, 12:37 PM
BTW, I am thinking that Richard Justice might be a coward of the highest level.

I often make comments in Chronicle blogs. Up until recently, they all get published. Except for on Justice's blog. I guess I am on his bad list. It happened to me once before, I just blew it off as maybe a mistake. But it happened again, so I am guessing I am blackballed. Here's what I wrote that he or someone else there was too chicken to publish. (Which is amazing, because they publish all sorts of ugly irrational stuff):
LOL, Justice will only publish things that make him look good or when other fans look like idiots. I think Jack Nicholson said it best...."He can't handle the truth!" I hope he is reading this...lame stuff RJ.

Fox
10-19-2007, 12:41 PM
About Mario's intelligence - I must agree. I remember seeing Mario on Rome is Burning and it seemed like the guy had trouble forming complete sentences. Judging from his lambo video and the interviews I've seen, Mario isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer nor does he enjoy giving interviews. Luckily football players don't have to be very academically smart to be good at their jobs.

I'm not sure why Justice couldn't atleast give us a quote or example of how/why he said Mario had a melt down. I can't help but feel like he and McClain love to stir the Mario/VY pot every time an opportunity arises.

Vinny
10-19-2007, 12:43 PM
About Mario's intelligence - I must agree. I remember seeing Mario on Rome is Burning and it seemed like the guy had trouble forming complete sentences. Judging from his lambo video and the interviews I've seen, Mario isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer nor does he enjoy giving interviews. Luckily football players don't have to be very academically smart to be good at their jobs.

I'm not sure why Justice couldn't atleast give us a quote or example of how/why he said Mario had a melt down. I can't help but feel like he and McClain love to stir the Mario/VY pot every time an opportunity arises.
Since we see that Young really wasn't portrayed correctly, I have no reason to assume Mario was either.

DiehardChris
10-19-2007, 12:51 PM
I'm not sure why Justice couldn't atleast give us a quote or example of how/why he said Mario had a melt down. I can't help but feel like he and McClain love to stir the Mario/VY pot every time an opportunity arises.

Exactly... I read what he said, and took him to task about not giving us any kind of quote, audio, video, or even a comment from someone who heard it. In my comment, I equated it to how he would continuously make reference to how lots of Astros do not like Craig Biggio - but he would never say more than that.

Texans Chick nailed it... I don't dislike McClain or Justice - but when it comes to "matters of Mario" they seem to be coming from the wrong place... and that place isn't a 'journalistic' one - that goes for their articles AND their blogs.

Vinny
10-19-2007, 12:55 PM
Exactly... I read what he said, and took him to task about not giving us any kind of quote, audio, video, or even a comment from someone who heard it. In my comment, I equated it to how he would continuously make reference to how lots of Astros do not like Craig Biggio - but he would never say more than that.

Texans Chick nailed it... I don't dislike McClain or Justice - but when it comes to "matters of Mario" they seem to be coming from the wrong place... and that place isn't a 'journalistic' one - that goes for their articles AND their blogs.after looking at this for a moment I've kinda come to the conclusion that he wanted to take a shot at Mario but lumped in some bad imagery of VY so he wouldn't take as much heat for bashing Mario. Seems like he is making the famous Richard Justice chicken salad out of chicken you know what....especially in lieu of him not allowing Step's comments when he allows idiotic comments. This just makes him look really bad imo.

Texans_Chick
10-19-2007, 12:58 PM
LOL, Justice will only publish things that make him look good or when other fans look like idiots. I think Jack Nicholson said it best...."He can't handle the truth!" I hope he is reading this...lame stuff RJ.

I have sent him a message to determine whether I am banned from his blog or if there is some strange technical glitch that has repeatedly stopped me from posting just to his blog. I am familiar with the blog software they use to approve comments. Sometimes comments do fall through the cracks, but it seems strange to me that his blog is the only ones where my comments don't show up.

I saved this last comment I made because I thought it wouldn't get published.

I've often had discussions with various Chronicle writers about different subjects, sometimes heated discussions, but none of them have ever not published what I wrote in their comments. I like vigorous discussion of things and try not to make it too personal. I really do want to encourage fair and accurate reporting at the Chronicle because that's how most people know what happens with local teams.

I published everything that was put on my blog except for the overtly disgusting ones. Cowboy Bill Lamza once accused me of publishing something he wrote to make him look bad. He wrote something about how I should be baking cookies or some other stupid barefoot kitchen crap, and so it was a comment and I published it. And then people dogged him for it. And then he wrote a comment that suggested that I just published the comment HE WROTE to make him look bad.

Yankee_In_TX
10-19-2007, 12:58 PM
I saw the VY interview last night and it wasn't bad at all. He basically said last year was different and he made his point and this year he just wanted to win a division game and that we had a different team now. Respect for that.

I totally agree. He pretty much (without saying it) told the media to go stuff themselves, because he's here to play football and not play into their media created soap opera.



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As for "The General," what has he done lately? He goes on 610, repeats stuff VERBATIM from the internet and ESPN, tools around with Anna Megan (don't get me started) and then spends most of his time complaining about nasty e-mails and texts (and proceeds to give out texters' phone numbers over the air).

Texan_Bill
10-19-2007, 01:00 PM
If no one likes Dick, who the heck is reading his columns to begin with?? I don't, unless they are relevant to one of the threads...

HoustonFrog
10-19-2007, 01:07 PM
BTW, I am thinking that Richard Justice might be a coward of the highest level.

I often make comments in Chronicle blogs. Up until recently, they all get published. Except for on Justice's blog. I guess I am on his bad list. It happened to me once before, I just blew it off as maybe a mistake. But it happened again, so I am guessing I am blackballed. Here's what I wrote that he or someone else there was too chicken to publish. (Which is amazing, because they publish all sorts of ugly irrational stuff):

I think Justice is a Skip Bayless wannabe. A man with a massive napoleonic complex and reporting nothing but the National Enquirer of sports talk. I wrote he and the Chronicle one time 2-3 years ago..it was published in the Chronicle..in regards to how he consistently backed Casserly, despite his draft record. He wrote me back and spun the article completely explaining how the drafts weren't all bad. I wrote himback with the track record and where each guy was and what picks we had lost. Fast Forward months later and he writes an article about Casserly basically saying he is the anti-Christ of Texans football. He has done the same with Purpura. He flip flops to suit his weekly agenda and to get his attention. Anyone with a smart and opinion to the contrary is ignored.



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As for "The General," what has he done lately? He goes on 610, repeats stuff VERBATIM from the internet and ESPN, tools around with Anna Megan (don't get me started) and then spends most of his time complaining about nasty e-mails and texts (and proceeds to give out texters' phone numbers over the air).

I've been one that has always stuck up for The General because at least I get to hear football but lately I sense a bitterness that doesn't sit well with me. I tried to call in last week when he was on 610...never had done this before...to see if he had ever run into my best friend that is the asst special teams coach with the Jags..first year. I had written him about the guy earlier in the year because it was a good story. I was on hold and hour and never got on. I got the feeling by the screeners question that it wasn;t the type talk they wanted. Anytime anyone questions the Texans play calling or coaching though he goes off and basically tells people they are stupid. I'm just losing some respect.

powerfuldragon
10-19-2007, 01:18 PM
If no one likes Dick, who the heck is reading his columns to begin with?? I don't, unless they are relevant to one of the threads...

Dick Justice sounds like a homosexual vigilante militia.

Brandon420tx
10-19-2007, 01:29 PM
:jumpbanan :includeme: Dick Justice sounds like a homosexual vigilante militia.:neener: :rofl:

Da_General
10-19-2007, 01:38 PM
I have sent him a message to determine whether I am banned from his blog or if there is some strange technical glitch that has repeatedly stopped me from posting just to his blog. I am familiar with the blog software they use to approve comments. Sometimes comments do fall through the cracks, but it seems strange to me that his blog is the only ones where my comments don't show up.


Steph, I think you're ignoring the obvious. They were THREATENED by you when you had your blog there. Your articles were better researched, more interesting, and WAY better written. You made them look bad. And posting your blog response would just make them look bad again. Childish behavior, to be sure.

Texans_Chick
10-19-2007, 01:54 PM
Steph, I think you're ignoring the obvious. They were THREATENED by you when you had your blog there. Your articles were better researched, more interesting, and WAY better written. You made them look bad. And posting your blog response would just make them look bad again. Childish behavior, to be sure.

Actually, some of the columnists there were encouraging of what I wrote and were regular readers. The editor I worked with wanted me to continue what I was doing, but truly it took too much time. And when your fun unpaid hobby starts feeling like work, well then, it isn't something you should do any more.

Sportswriters do work very hard. And they write lots of words. Some of those words will be thoughtful ones, and some of those words are going to be assigned by an editor and pushed out before deadline. I think it would be one of those jobs that it would be hard to have a normal family life with.

The sorts of criticism that they get can get overwhelmingly personal and ugly. They also get to do some neat stuff that regular people don't get to do.

I like what I do for FanHouse because it is a way to educate a more national audience about the Texans. An audience that may not know much about the team. There is so much misinformation or exaggeration out there, that it is nice to be able to use their audience reach as a way to put some information and analysis out there that maybe people can't find otherwise. And maybe have a dialogue with other people interested in the team. And I'll keep doing that as long as it remains fun and they let me.

nunusguy
10-19-2007, 01:56 PM
On the subject of Marios intelligence, please ty to remember that your average NFL player isn't an M.I.T. EE. He may not be that far off of the
norm in the smarts dept.
Also remember that there's still few sports subjects in Houston, TX that get more attention, even now, than the 2006 NFL Draft and the top 3 picks of that Draft. Justice and his pals are still trying to sell newspapers, and now Justice also has a daily radio show, on which he repeated this whole story he's reportedly written in his blog.
These kinda stories have got to hurt a reporters access to players on the team, but maybe Justice didn't have that much to lose in the beginning anyhow.

Texans_Chick
10-19-2007, 02:09 PM
About Mario's intelligence - I must agree. I remember seeing Mario on Rome is Burning and it seemed like the guy had trouble forming complete sentences. Judging from his lambo video and the interviews I've seen, Mario isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer nor does he enjoy giving interviews. Luckily football players don't have to be very academically smart to be good at their jobs.

I'm not sure why Justice couldn't atleast give us a quote or example of how/why he said Mario had a melt down. I can't help but feel like he and McClain love to stir the Mario/VY pot every time an opportunity arises.


Mario Williams is a young guy from a small town in North Carolina.

It is not easy being on TV if you are someone not trained to do that sort of thing. I think a lot of game shows bank on the fact that regular people lose IQ points when a camera gets a foot from their face.

I have to say I'm more impressed when someone is personable and good on TV than I am critical when they struggle. Cuz it ain't easy.

Texans_Chick
10-19-2007, 02:20 PM
FWIW, and without sharing the email.

My comment was intentionally not published on Justice's blog due to him taking issue of things I wrote about his work last year.

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that he won't publish my comment in a blog where he is criticizing twenty-something year old professional athletes for being "testy," "unapproachable" and "prima donnas?"

http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg

He's Richard Justice and I am just a Chronicle subscriber and a sports fan. His blog, his rules.

hollywood_texan
10-19-2007, 02:32 PM
Mario Williams is a young guy from a small town in North Carolina.

It is not easy being on TV if you are someone not trained to do that sort of thing. I think a lot of game shows bank on the fact that regular people lose IQ points when a camera gets a foot from their face.

I have to say I'm more impressed when someone is personable and good on TV than I am critical when they struggle. Cuz it ain't easy.

Just because someone speaks slowly or not as crisp as a highly trained and experienced speaker, does not mean they are less intelligent in my opinion. AJ isn't the best speaker in my opinion, but I am not going to base an opinion on his intelligence due to that.

Humans are such emotional creatures and so judgemental for reasons that are so irrational. Just look at the concept of love, it has more to do with what someone looks like than who they really are. Look at the legal system and pursuading a jury.

We think we just hear with our ears, but we really hear more with our eyes!

Back to point, thinking through an issue logically and coming to a reasonable conclusion has nothing to do with speaking skills. They are two separate issues.

Two people could come up with the same analysis, but if the presenter has a stuttering issue, it's immediately discounted, disregarded, and/or ignored. A clean cut well spoken individual gets high marks instead and everyone goes, yeah! I call it the JFK effect. Not jabbing at JFK, but that guy got so much lee way because he looked good. If he had a stuttering problem, no one would have ever know who he was. He would have been irrelevant.

Life isn't fair, and neither are human beings...

I sometimes wonder what the world be like and the inventions that would come about if we weren't so hung up on looks and how well someone spoke.

TexansLucky13
10-19-2007, 02:32 PM
Mario Williams is a young guy from a small town in North Carolina.

It is not easy being on TV if you are someone not trained to do that sort of thing. I think a lot of game shows bank on the fact that regular people lose IQ points when a camera gets a foot from their face.

I have to say I'm more impressed when someone is personable and good on TV than I am critical when they struggle. Cuz it ain't easy.

EXACTLY. Smart has nothing to do with it. When you get in front of that camera, all bets are off. It has everything to do with the fact that Mario is not used to it. He will get there.

I would rather have a nervous Mario than a certain young QB with a huge temper.

FWIW, and without sharing the email.

My comment was intentionally not published on Justice's blog due to him taking issue of things I wrote about his work last year.

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that he won't publish my comment in a blog where he is criticizing twenty-something year old professional athletes for being "testy," "unapproachable" and "prima donnas?"

http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg

He's Richard Justice and I am just a Chronicle subscriber and a sports fan. His blog, his rules.

What a ******bag. I respect McClain for all the work he did in the past (before VY), but I have nothing for Justice. I would much rather read your blog, TC.

Texans Horror
10-19-2007, 02:35 PM
FWIW, and without sharing the email.

My comment was intentionally not published on Justice's blog due to him taking issue of things I wrote about his work last year.

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that he won't publish my comment in a blog where he is criticizing twenty-something year old professional athletes for being "testy," "unapproachable" and "prima donnas?"

http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg

He's Richard Justice and I am just a Chronicle subscriber and a sports fan. His blog, his rules.

Well-said.

Specnatz
10-19-2007, 02:36 PM
FWIW, and without sharing the email.

My comment was intentionally not published on Justice's blog due to him taking issue of things I wrote about his work last year.

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that he won't publish my comment in a blog where he is criticizing twenty-something year old professional athletes for being "testy," "unapproachable" and "prima donnas?"


He's Richard Justice and I am just a Chronicle subscriber and a sports fan. His blog, his rules.

Thats Garbage, his articles are garbage, and the editor who published it and will not publish your works is garbage.

He is a 20 something year old kid, don't go afte them. Unless you as a man can take it.

(I just realized TC is more of a man than Dick Justice)


:texans chick:

GlassHalfFull
10-19-2007, 02:36 PM
FWIW, and without sharing the email.

My comment was intentionally not published on Justice's blog due to him taking issue of things I wrote about his work last year.

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that he won't publish my comment in a blog where he is criticizing twenty-something year old professional athletes for being "testy," "unapproachable" and "prima donnas?"

http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg

He's Richard Justice and I am just a Chronicle subscriber and a sports fan. His blog, his rules.


TC Please share the email. You owe him nothing, and I would really love to see what he wrote. I have lost a lot of respect for Justice this year. He wants to entertain and be controversial more than inform.

ledzeppelin229
10-19-2007, 02:38 PM
It's amazing that Justice has a job. His reporting is biased, his behavior is childish, and he is unable to form his own opinions on anything. Sort of like when he blasted the Astros with the infamous gravestone image and then tried to be all cute and clever about how he "spurred them on" or some horsetrash.

Buffi2
10-19-2007, 03:02 PM
FWIW, and without sharing the email.

My comment was intentionally not published on Justice's blog due to him taking issue of things I wrote about his work last year.

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that he won't publish my comment in a blog where he is criticizing twenty-something year old professional athletes for being "testy," "unapproachable" and "prima donnas?"

http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg

He's Richard Justice and I am just a Chronicle subscriber and a sports fan. His blog, his rules.

Not only does that take holding a grudge and prima donna to a whole different level, it is the dumbest da*n thing I've heard in all of my put togethers. Justice needs to be put on some kind of medical get over yourself leave of absence.

houstonhurricane
10-19-2007, 03:05 PM
FWIW, and without sharing the email.

My comment was intentionally not published on Justice's blog due to him taking issue of things I wrote about his work last year.

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that he won't publish my comment in a blog where he is criticizing twenty-something year old professional athletes for being "testy," "unapproachable" and "prima donnas?"

http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg

He's Richard Justice and I am just a Chronicle subscriber and a sports fan. His blog, his rules.

You should forward his comments to the Chron editors and let them know the vindictive and disrespectful behavior of one of the "columnists." That is total b.s. and he should be called out for such petty actions.

IlliniJen
10-19-2007, 03:08 PM
Justice and McClain are worthless as journalists. They seem to be more interested in being "personalities" or making names for themselves by antagonizing athletes or stalking Anna Megan.

I'd love to see some new blood on the chron.com sports pages; these guys have lost so much credibility of late.

Fox
10-19-2007, 03:23 PM
Just because someone speaks slowly or not as crisp as a highly trained and experienced speaker, does not mean they are less intelligent in my opinion. AJ isn't the best speaker in my opinion, but I am not going to base an opinion on his intelligence due to that.

Meh, I have a professor who has a pretty serious stuttering problem but at the end of the day what he says makes perfect sense. Mario has no speech impediments but during his interview he responded to questions with answers that made you wonder as to whether he understood the question in the first place... consistently. I agree though, I can't say I would keep from looking like a complete dumbass if you put me on a TV camera. On the other hand, a couple years of interviews taped and written, and watching the lambo incident in live motion..... I don't value Mario's smarts or maturity very much at this point based on what I've seen.

jlam
10-19-2007, 04:03 PM
Reggie Bush sucks!

/outoftheway

Maddict5
10-19-2007, 04:20 PM
TC should just forward her post for someone else to post:

somebody could re-post them under the subtle (and cunning) 'name' of chexan tick :)

76Texan
10-19-2007, 05:33 PM
If no one likes Dick, who the heck is reading his columns to begin with?? I don't, unless they are relevant to one of the threads...

* IGNORE once and for all *

Lucky
10-19-2007, 06:04 PM
My comment was intentionally not published on Justice's blog due to him taking issue of things I wrote about his work last year.

TC, how can you slam King Richard the Chickenheart's work in '06, then expect to be allowed to criticize him in '07? There's a 24 month moratorium on critiques of inJustice's blog. I thought you of all people would know that.

Last night, I was going through a box of old clothes and came across some of my Rockets championship gear. The Championship T-shirt with the newspaper front page made me smile. "The Houston Post" was at the top of the shirt. I miss The Post. I basically taught myself how to read by scouring its sports section. I don't know if this town needs 2 newspapers. But, I do know that we need 2 sportspages.

edo783
10-19-2007, 08:04 PM
Stuff like this would make lose all respect for Dick Justice...................if I had any to start with.

Texans_Chick
10-19-2007, 11:27 PM
You should forward his comments to the Chron editors and let them know the vindictive and disrespectful behavior of one of the "columnists." That is total b.s. and he should be called out for such petty actions.

It is his blog. He can handle it the way he wants.

Personally, I feel sorry for someone who I guess feels so insecure in himself that he can't he can't handle people criticizing his work or disagreeing with his point of view and the manner that he chooses to report things.

Obviously, what I wrote hurt his feelings and made him mad. Everyone is entitled to their own feelings.

I do appreciate him taking the time to answer my email and letting me know that my comments are not welcomed at his blog so that I don't waste his or my time.

Specnatz
10-19-2007, 11:34 PM
It is his blog. He can handle it the way he wants.

Personally, I feel sorry for someone who I guess feels so insecure in himself that he can't he can't handle people criticizing his work or disagreeing with his point of view and the manner that he chooses to report things.

Obviously, what I wrote hurt his feelings and made him mad. Everyone is entitled to their own feelings.

I do appreciate him taking the time to answer my email and letting me know that my comments are not welcomed at his blog so that I don't waste his or my time.

I wonder if someone will call into his show between 10 and 12 next week on 1560 and ask him about it. Just to see him drop the caller.

This is why someone like the Oklahoma State coach felt it neccessary to confront the reporter infront of others. If you are going to write someone be a man and deal with criticism as it comes. Justice is not a journalist in my opinion, he likes to critique and criticize without wanting to deal with anyone disagreeing with him. He does not deal in facts where a journalist and a reporter do.

real
10-20-2007, 11:21 AM
Mario didn't say he was going to break the sack record.

But he DID sound childish when he gave that answer.

JMO.

nunusguy
10-20-2007, 11:35 AM
I wonder if someone will call into his show between 10 and 12 next week on 1560 and ask him about it. Just to see him drop the caller.


That's a good idea. I second it. And I think she's the logical one to make the call, as it appears RJs alleged omission hurt her feelings as badly as she says his were by her comments.
Maybe we'll get a heads-up so we can listen in to the 1560-confrontation ?

fritz145
10-20-2007, 11:39 AM
It's pretty hard to take anything Justice says too seriously.

I mean, there's a reason Lance Berkman's nickname for RJ is "The Writer of Wrongs."

rickyb
10-20-2007, 12:12 PM
Mario Williams is a young guy from a small town in North Carolina.

It is not easy being on TV if you are someone not trained to do that sort of thing. I think a lot of game shows bank on the fact that regular people lose IQ points when a camera gets a foot from their face.

I have to say I'm more impressed when someone is personable and good on TV than I am critical when they struggle. Cuz it ain't easy.

Truer words have never been spoken. This reminds me of a personal experience a couple of years back. I had just competed in a business plan / public speaking competition, and a local newspaper reporter caught me off-guard for an on-the-spot interview. I went into vaporlock, yammering on about how it's just great to be here...networking opp...fine program, yada-yada.

Define irony. A public speaker can speak to hundreds with some success, but show that same guy a single person with a pen and hilarity ensues... Now imagine that person with a pen has a friend holding a big honkin' camera 3 feet from your face.

So, yeah, I can see how a 23 year old kid from NC can struggle a bit with TV interviews. OTOH, were I in that position, rather than wasting cash on custom jewelry or a fancy Italian speedster, I might be inclined to purchase the services of a public speaking coach. That's just me.

TC -- don't sweat The InJustice. The hobby/work that you do spreading the word about the Texans is much appreciated. I'm sure you know this, but I cannot imagine that it hurts to hear it. Prima donnas. Whayagonnado?

The Pencil Neck
10-20-2007, 02:02 PM
So, yeah, I can see how a 23 year old kid from NC can struggle a bit with TV interviews. OTOH, were I in that position, rather than wasting cash on custom jewelry or a fancy Italian speedster, I might be inclined to purchase the services of a public speaking coach. That's just me.


I think that's just you.

I think that would be about the last thing I'd be thinking about. It would take a string of really bad interviews for me to think about that.

Texans_Chick
10-20-2007, 02:15 PM
That's a good idea. I second it. And I think she's the logical one to make the call, as it appears RJs alleged omission hurt her feelings as badly as she says his were by her comments.
Maybe we'll get a heads-up so we can listen in to the 1560-confrontation ?

Nah. I don't have a problem with him deciding what not to publish on his blog. It's his blog. My feelings are not hurt. I am glad he actually responded to my email inquiry.

Texans_Chick
10-20-2007, 02:16 PM
It's pretty hard to take anything Justice says too seriously.

I mean, there's a reason Lance Berkman's nickname for RJ is "The Writer of Wrongs."


LOL. I hadn't heard that one.

Specnatz
10-20-2007, 02:40 PM
That's a good idea. I second it. And I think she's the logical one to make the call, as it appears RJs alleged omission hurt her feelings as badly as she says his were by her comments.
Maybe we'll get a heads-up so we can listen in to the 1560-confrontation ?

I have Monday off so I will be calling, but I bet it does not make it to air because he likes to hear himself talk for two hours and only takes one or two calls per show.

At least that is what I noticed the few times I have heard him.


As far as feelings hurt, I am probably more upset about his discracing of the journalist profession than TC is on what he says or does not say. Besides if she really want to have a war with Dick all she would have to do is write something on Fanhouse about the lack of integrity of Houston Sports journalist.

SuperDan
10-20-2007, 03:49 PM
At the risk of being a part of this thread becoming more of a Chronicle issue than a Mario issue, I add my .02 ...

First of all, many thanks to TC for being one of, if not *the* most informative sources on the Texans in town. I appreciate the work you do on Fan House because you give the team an identity that most aren't familiar with outside of Houston. I enjoyed your blog on Chron.com particularly because you challenged the baseless "reporting" that the paid staff churned out....which leads me to my second point...

With the advent of blogging on the Chronicle's website, it seems the only thing the staff is concerned with is keeping readers talking. Yes, I understand the point of blogging is opening up dialogue, but honestly...can anyone tell me the last time John McClain wrote an article with any substance? Can anyone tell me the last time that any of the staff wrote an article that left you saying to yourself, "wow, that was really informative?" Yet, people keep buying, people keep reading and people keep posting. Precisely the reason that folks like Justice are floppers. They have a finger on the collective pulse of local sports fans and they ride the wave of emotion to attract more readers.

All that being said, while it all flies in the face of journalistic integrity (whatever that is) and mocks the resources that typical fans only dream of having, they're doing exactly what the Chronicle asks of them. I am by NO means taking up for any of them. God only knows how many more stories I can endure of McClain's love affair with Vince Papale, embarrassing songs and videos involving our starting QB posted for the world to see, or Tombstones on the front page only to be taking up for the front office a week later. If however, Justice, McClain or any of the staff want to be floppers or draw big paychecks for not providing anything of substance, they should expect some backlash from the educated fan base and develop a bit more of a thick skin.

nunusguy
10-20-2007, 05:36 PM
I have Monday off so I will be calling, but I bet it does not make it to air because he likes to hear himself talk for two hours and only takes one or two calls per show.

At least that is what I noticed the few times I have heard him.


As far as feelings hurt, I am probably more upset about his discracing of the journalist profession than TC is on what he says or does not say. Besides if she really want to have a war with Dick all she would have to do is write something on Fanhouse about the lack of integrity of Houston Sports journalist.
I dunno, but maybe you're just a ladies man there Specnatz, wanting to help out a damsel in distress ?
I happen to think Justice is doing a pretty good job on his new radio show.
He's such a big Cowboys fan and is very outspoken about it, and is from
N. Texas so that may put a lot of people off. But he has a lot of contacts
and when he brings them on his show he asks them a lot of questions and
lets them respond.
And yea Justice is windy, but there's an upside because he's really a pretty entertaining story-teller.

Twitch-Houston
10-21-2007, 02:22 AM
my 2 cents.......Richard Justice has no business talking football. He fancies himself a baseball expert and I even question that, but as far as football goes.....I picture that commercial of the guy talking sports out of his region where the sun don't shine when I hear him speak.

I guess I have just been added to his black list as well Texans_Chick.

All for one....one for all.....:highfive: