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profan
11-14-2004, 06:20 PM
I'm not jumping off the Texan Bandwagon, and will be there to support out team against the Packers. But Coach Caper's, it's time to get mad and chew some ars. I'm getting tired of seeing your emotionless face with an open mouth every time the camera is on you during these past two blowouts. You need to get the attention of these athletes and wake them up, let them realize this will not be tolerated. I remember years ago seeing Jimmy Johnson just ripping his linemen up and down over a lousy first quarter, the result was improved play and a win. I've seen numerous other NFL coaches have these little meetings during the game to install a spark, but have yet to see you do this with the Texans.
Please do not allow this to happen next week against the Packers or the fans at the loudest stadium in the NFL will let you and the players know how they feel. I don't want to hear you comment tomorrow on how the players did not give up. The offensive line never showed up, they gave up before the game started. There's no way to sugar coat this loss. Get pssed and don't let the players have their day off, they don't deserve it. You need all the practive you can get right now.

William
11-14-2004, 06:41 PM
I agree 100% with you. Capers needs to wake up over there on the sideline he just looks dumbfounded over there when ever things are going sour.

texansfan88
11-14-2004, 06:42 PM
dude call 713-572-7767 tommorow during the dom capers show...i know its easy to say it over the comp. but say it to him directly and see what he has to say

Txnpride
11-14-2004, 07:03 PM
dude call 713-572-7767 tommorow during the dom capers show...i know its easy to say it over the comp. but say it to him directly and see what he has to sayWhat time does thje show start?I will call just to see what he has to say....there is no excuse for this showing today...none.After what they did last week against denver....you would think they would come in fired up!Offense line deserves an F with a few letters added on to the end.Unbelievable in the the only word I can think of.Very pathetic

aj.
11-14-2004, 08:14 PM
Capers will get hammered tomorrow and he deserves it (starts at 5:00 p.m.). Not so much for his mannerisms on the sideline but more for his team being totally unprepared two weeks in a row. The last thing I want to hear is some fool telling him he needs to close his mouth and jump up and down on the sideline - as if that would change anything.

bckey
11-14-2004, 08:16 PM
He reminded me of Jack Pardee in Buffalo.

JustBonee
11-14-2004, 08:21 PM
.. The last thing I want to hear is some fool telling him he needs to close his mouth and jump up and down on the sideline - as if that would change anything.
Can't hurt! .. :rofl:

rhc564
11-14-2004, 09:13 PM
After the Denver game, Capers lamented that the team had taken a step
back in the Bronco game and was going to have to re-group and re-
focus for the Colts. So, what does he deliver?...the worst defeat in Texans
history!!! Is it the message or is it the messenger? Somewhere or some-
how what is being said by the Coach is not getting translated onto the
field. Poor coaching, including game planning? Lack of player effort? What
we all saw Sunday is not a mirage that is suddenly going to go away with
easy excuses like (1) we're still an expansion team or (2) we're just in our
third year or (3) every team has a bad game once in a while---this game
is an ugly reminder of something else...where is the heart?where is the
desire?where is the passion?...it's not just about losing that counts, it's
about how you lose...and it starts with showing up to play! Did the Texans
show up Sunday? If not, why? If so, it's going to be a long second half... :goodbad:

RTP2110
11-14-2004, 10:08 PM
I agree that Capers need to get fired up once in a while, for the fact that the players feed of off thier coaches demeanor and reactions.

kuno
11-15-2004, 12:55 AM
Capers has never been a vocal coach. I remember him being very passive on the Panthers sidelines too. I think he is more of a finesse guy than a "Gruden" guy. He always seems to be analyzing a situation instead of getting mad about it.

Texan Gal 312
11-15-2004, 05:30 AM
I mean after all Gruden is having an outstanding year ! I think he had an outstanding year last year also.

OzzO
11-15-2004, 08:30 AM
Capers has never been a vocal coach. I remember him being very passive on the Panthers sidelines too. I think he is more of a finesse guy than a "Gruden" guy. He always seems to be analyzing a situation instead of getting mad about it.

Can you see that Gruden sneer or Cower scowl on Capers?!?!? Yeah, I can't either.

TheOgre
11-15-2004, 08:51 AM
Capers has been outcoached in a big way two weeks running.

GiovanniTexansFan
11-15-2004, 10:22 AM
:hmmm: WELL MOST OF YOU HAVE A POINT.BUT IS IT REALLY THE COACH..YES HE NEEDS MORE EMOTIONS..HES NOT QUITE THE COACH I THOUGHT WE NEEDED.BUT THAT DEFENSE DIDNT DO NOTHING AT ALL AS WELL..DONT ALWAYS BLAME THE COACH,BUT COULD IT BE THAT HOUSTON STILL HAS ALOT OF GROWING UP TO DO AND NEED BETTER COACHING AS WELL..IM A TRUE TEXANS FAN DONT TAKE IT WRONG BUT THEY SHOULDNT OF HAD BEEN THERE YESTURDAY..HOPE ITS A WAKE UP CALL FOR THEM AGAINST THE PACKERS...AND DAVID CARR.HMMMM FUMBLES AND INTERCEPTIONS..STILL YOUNG AND THAT WHOLE TEXANS TEAM NEEDS HELP..

WWJD
11-15-2004, 10:32 AM
Dom Capers is much like Tom Landry was. He doesn't show much emotion on the sidelines. To me it's not that big of a deal. He's done a really good job for the 3 years the team has been a team.

Players need to start making some plays, making some blocks and things will iron themselves out.

Porky
11-15-2004, 10:32 AM
Since this is a thread about coaching, I'll say it. The first half in particular was one of the worst coaching jobs I have seen. Clock and time-out management, calling for replays of plays that were clearly called correctly, bad playcalling, bad game planning, not putting in Wells when Davis was doing zero, not helping Spears, who was making Jimmy Herndon look like Jonathon Ogden, not being fast enough to adjust to what the Colts were doing on offense, and especially defense, and lastly, looking like you were clueless and not chewing some butt. I like Capers personally, and you won't find a coach more prepared mentally, but when Deloach was acting like he was going for a stoll in the park, instead of hustling to get a loose ball, I woulld have chewed his arse out right there. I know Capers likes to keep that stuff out of the public, but there are times where that is called for. His team didn't show up on many levels, and he is ultimately responsible as the leader.

profan
11-15-2004, 11:14 AM
dude call 713-572-7767 tommorow during the dom capers show...i know its easy to say it over the comp. but say it to him directly and see what he has to say
Dude, my job and location prevent me from calling into the Dom Capers Show. That's why I posted my concerns here. and for AJ, no I don't want to see a coach jumping up and down on the sideline, don't believe I ever posted that. I do want to see a coach trying to light a fire under his players when they are underachieving. I do not believe that qualifies me as a fool.

Vinny
11-15-2004, 11:24 AM
:hmmm: WELL MOST OF YOU HAVE A POINT.BUT IS IT REALLY THE COACH..YES HE NEEDS MORE EMOTIONS..HES NOT QUITE THE COACH I THOUGHT WE NEEDED.BUT THAT DEFENSE DIDNT DO NOTHING AT ALL AS WELL..DONT ALWAYS BLAME THE COACH,BUT COULD IT BE THAT HOUSTON STILL HAS ALOT OF GROWING UP TO DO AND NEED BETTER COACHING AS WELL..IM A TRUE TEXANS FAN DONT TAKE IT WRONG BUT THEY SHOULDNT OF HAD BEEN THERE YESTURDAY..HOPE ITS A WAKE UP CALL FOR THEM AGAINST THE PACKERS...AND DAVID CARR.HMMMM FUMBLES AND INTERCEPTIONS..STILL YOUNG AND THAT WHOLE TEXANS TEAM NEEDS HELP..

This is not a rule, it's more of just asking members to be courteous to others so please do not post messages with all in capital letters. Words all in capitals take much more time to read than normal writing and most people find them annoying. Sitting thru and reading that entire post takes effort and is hard on the eyes. Besides, most people skip over posts that are in all caps. You are defeating the whole reason you typed in caps to begin with.

OK, rant over....welcome aboard.

DreamCatcher
11-15-2004, 11:37 AM
Some emotion on the sidelines can,t do any harm, but ultimately,the players and Coach need to step it up.If Capers can communicate his message without screaming and shouting ,then fine,but if his players respond better to a good ear chewing then he needs to vocalise loudly.

FatTabbyMama
11-15-2004, 01:02 PM
Don't underestimate the effect of showing some emotions...remember how Carr's getting angry at the Jags game really fired up the team. I think especially if you were to see Capers show any sort of anger, etc. on the sidelines during the game it would have a real effect...kind of a "holy ****, Dad's really pissed" effect.

Now...we don't need to have him go Parcells on us...but in some ways I wish he would be a little more like Bill...at least as far as getting fired up on the sidelines is concerned.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a parent...I know all about yelling till you're blue in the face and it not making a damn difference...LOL. Maybe Dom is the master Jekyl/Hyde and really rips into the boys in the locker room when the cameras are off and they just don't respond...but I don't think so.

I guess it's a matter of personal preference? A lot of teams do great with coaches that "walk softly" and some "just suck" (as their own coaches put it) with their emotional coaches. But I think every team needs someone to be the driving force to keep it going/motivated. If not the coach, then I would think the QB...and Carr often shrugs off mistakes as easily as Capers does. It's only recently this season that he's started to get really ticked at himself...but even late yesterday there were moments he was smiling and happy - um...no. WE WEREN'T - you're not allowed!! :)

Please tell me that doesn't mean it all falls on us, the fans, to carry these boys then....they're awfully heavy. Plus, I don't want us to be those that starting booing our own team when they screw up. But I mean come on...is that what it's gonna take? Are they too comfortable in their position with us?

I'm just heartbroken. Way too good of a team to be playing like this.

Vinny
11-15-2004, 01:06 PM
I donno, these are grown men, not high school kids. They cash their check and don't worry about what Daddy is saying. There are lots of low key guys who have done well from Tom Landry, to Tony Dungy. I think ranting coaches is a highly overrated element.

edo783
11-15-2004, 02:34 PM
I don't think folks are saying a "Ranting Coach" Vinny, but rather one that on occasion, and at the right time, kicks a little tail. The ranters get tuned out after awhile, but a calm coach that lets it fly when thing are going in the dumper can get things moving.

Porky
11-15-2004, 02:39 PM
I donno, these are grown men, not high school kids. They cash their check and don't worry about what Daddy is saying. There are lots of low key guys who have done well from Tom Landry, to Tony Dungy. I think ranting coaches is a highly overrated element.

I think that is a rash generalization. Different people respond to different types of motivation. For myself, a ranter as a boss does not work. For others, someone constantly has to be on their butt or no work gets done. Most are somewhere in between. All I know is when Deloach came to the sideline, I would have lit into him like there was no tomorrow, and I would have made sure as many players as possible heard it. Then I would have benched his arse the rest of the game, and benched him next week to boot. Someone needs to give these guys a good swift kick, and Capers ain't doing it!

ArlingtonTexan
11-15-2004, 02:57 PM
I think that is a rash generalization. Different people respond to different types of motivation. For myself, a ranter as a boss does not work. For others, someone constantly has to be on their butt or no work gets done. Most are somewhere in between. All I know is when Deloach came to the sideline, I would have lit into him like there was no tomorrow, and I would have made sure as many players as possible heard it. Then I would have benched his arse the rest of the game, and benched him next week to boot. Someone needs to give these guys a good swift kick, and Capers ain't doing it!

The key from a coach/management idea is to stay in your personality. If you are generally calm and then explode when something in particular happens it is more likely to work. People can see through if you faking angry or outward energy "to fire up the troops." even when something that may send someone else into a rage. Also, if you are a Tony dungy it often pays to have couple Herm Edwards around for (which he did) to keep things in balance.

Also, I am going to argue that despite the physical nature of football and emotion we often see that most players have been around ranters enough , that it is a sort of old hat by the time they are 28 year old adults.

texansfan88
11-15-2004, 03:06 PM
Like I said earlier, I hope that you guys call in (713-572-7767) to the Dom Capers show at 5 pm and talk to him about your concerns...i'll be listening for you

Porky
11-15-2004, 03:18 PM
Like I said earlier, I hope that you guys call in (713-572-7767) to the Dom Capers show at 5 pm and talk to him about your concerns...i'll be listening for you

I work until 6pm. I hope someone calls him though. :heh:

TexanExile
11-15-2004, 08:00 PM
Yeah, that Belichick guy's a total fireball. Thank goodness he chews out his players regularly. Without emotion, how would he possibly succeed? :listening


I don't give a rip if Capers shouts or not. His niche is preparation, right? That's what I always hear. And lately, his teams are showing up looking like they just got their playbooks about 5 minutes before the game. False starts on OPENING PLAYS? Please.

It's not time for Capers to get mad. It's time for him to do his friggin' job for the first time in 2 weeks.

Mistril48
11-15-2004, 08:20 PM
Capers has been outcoached in a big way two weeks running.
Does he deserve any credit for us going 4-1?

Ibar_Harry
11-16-2004, 03:57 AM
The locker room comments make me wonder if they are over coaching. Sometimes you can simply make people think too much rather than simply reacting. In other words they may be over coaching the players.

kuno
11-16-2004, 10:01 AM
Can you see that Gruden sneer or Cower scowl on Capers?!?!? Yeah, I can't either.

No way, it would look like my high school biology teacher getting all "hulked" out. I just cant see it happening.

TheOgre
11-16-2004, 10:47 AM
Does he deserve any credit for us going 4-1?
Yes.

All I said was that he was way outcoached the previous two weeks. I wasn't asking for his head. I just thought the level we were outcoached was alarming though.

Doug
11-16-2004, 11:16 AM
I donno, these are grown men, not high school kids. They cash their check and don't worry about what Daddy is saying. There are lots of low key guys who have done well from Tom Landry, to Tony Dungy. I think ranting coaches is a highly overrated element.

Regardless of age and money when you have someone that you respect a great deal the way these players do Capers and each other and he's out of his normal calm, mouth hanging open self and lighting into someone or everyone for that matter I think it would make a difference. It's easy for someone to say "oh, my bad I should've had that one", but when you've got someone ripping into you from time to time on certain mistakes it kind of drives it home. That's my opinion though. There are some times to be calm and collect and other times when you get so ticked off you can't help yourself but to get caught up in the moment and light into these guys and that should've happened at some point and time two weeks straight.

OzzO
11-16-2004, 12:43 PM
..... All I know is when Deloach came to the sideline, I would have lit into him like there was no tomorrow, and I would have made sure as many players as possible heard it. Then I would have benched his arse the rest of the game, and benched him next week to boot. Someone needs to give these guys a good swift kick, and Capers ain't doing it!


Saw your two posts on this Porky. I don't think it was shown on tv, but they did mention it in the 610 gamecast (can't stand the tv announcers) that he was getting ripped into by Capers on the sideline right after that play.... just so ya know.

aj.
11-16-2004, 12:47 PM
Some advice. Next time you are at a Texans game, train your binocs on Capers and watch him interact with the other coaches and players. Some of you might be surprised that he does more than write notes and stand there with his mouth open. Better yet, go ask Jonathan Wells and Jabar Gaffney whether they think Coach is too mild mannered.

profan
11-16-2004, 01:54 PM
Saw your two posts on this Porky. I don't think it was shown on tv, but they did mention it in the 610 gamecast (can't stand the tv announcers) that he was getting ripped into by Capers on the sideline right after that play.... just so ya know.

Well, that's good to know. Maybe the reason the cameras do not catch this is because Capers is known for being mild mannered and does not get on camera all the time opposed to some of the other coaches who tend to get more vocal. Don't get my message wrong, I don't want our coach to make a arss of himself, just ignite a little fire in the players, and if your statement is true, then, he is doing exactly what i would like to see.

whotex8
11-16-2004, 02:45 PM
Just because we don't see Capers yelling at the players on tv doesn't mean that he isn't coaching the team. Capers is respectful and dignified, but that does't mean that he doesn't rip someone a 2nd one during the half or when we don't see him. I kinda respect the fact that he doesn't make it a whole production and make a spectacle of himself. These past 2 games weren't bad because of bad coaching. There was bad playing. Bad blocking and just right down more bad playing. We were outplayed, just like we outplayed Jags. Players don't need to be yelled at by coaches to play better. They know they need to play better...but it is the fans they have to answer to. The Texans know that this town is hungry for a winning football team, but it is not about to let them slip into a state of "Oiler-doom". This team is a good team. They just need to play with consistancy more often. Hope this home game and great fan participation knocks them back in the groove. We must win this sunday. Let's make this a game to go down in Texan history and let the fans be a huge part of that. Let's earn another "Game Ball".

shinerbock_girl
11-16-2004, 02:52 PM
And yelling doesn't seem to be doing Parcells any good...LOL..... :heh: