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kastofsna
10-14-2007, 04:14 PM
1. Ohio State - .942
2. South Florida - .920
3. Boston College - .891
4. LSU - .840
5. Oklahoma - .762
6. South Carolina - .743
7. Kentucky - .683
8. Arizona State - .683
9. West Virginia - .662
10. Oregon - .637
11. Virginia Tech - .630
12. California - .600
13. Kansas - .517
14. USC - .472
15. Florida - .435
16. Missouri - .382
17. Auburn - .337
18. Hawaii - .284
19. Virginia - .229
20. Georgia - .224
21. Tennessee - .195
22. Texas - .180
23. Cincinnati - .119
24. Texas Tech - .105
25. Michigan - .078

yessir, if the season ended today, USF would be playing for a national title.

bah007
10-14-2007, 04:29 PM
Congrats.

My Texas squad is slowly movin back up. We're ranked just about where we should be right now, but I think we will move up. Our only scary game left looks like Texas Tech.

TD
10-14-2007, 04:45 PM
Now if OSU could just lose a game, it'll be perfect.

bah007
10-14-2007, 04:47 PM
Now if OSU could just lose a game, it'll be perfect.

Touche.

Yankee_In_TX
10-14-2007, 05:25 PM
Now if OSU could just lose a game, it'll be perfect.

HEY!

Actually, I called us a 1 loss team from day 1 and stand by that/ we have problems, uncluding a shaky QB.

TD
10-14-2007, 05:39 PM
Actually, I called us a 1 loss team from day 1 and stand by that/ we have problems, uncluding a shaky QB.

Never thought I'd say this a few weeks ago, but my money is on the Michigan game. Maybe PSU too. ;)

gtexan02
10-15-2007, 08:21 PM
Wahoo, UVa at 19!

Ole Miss Texan
10-16-2007, 12:11 AM
Looking at the remaining schedules I think South Florida actually has the best chance of all the top 5 of going to the National Championship.

Ohio State has played a joke of a schedule thus far. They've got some tough game remaining in Mich. St, at Penn St, Wisconsin, Illinois, at Michigan.

South Florida has beat some decent teams already, at Auburn and West Virginia. Their remaining schedule is at Rutgers, at Conn, Cincinnati, at Syracuse, Louisville, at Pittsburgh.

Boston College has won some good games but has the toughest schedule left imo. The beat Wake Forest, at GA Tech. but they have at VA tech, Florida St, at Maryland, at Clemson, Miami.

LSU is still the best team in the country imo. They beat Virginia Tech, South Carolina, and Florida. They lost to Kentucky in triple overtime. Of course being in the SEC they have a tough schedule remaining with Auburn, at Alabama, LA TEch, at Ole Miss, Arkansas

Oklahoma is probably the 2nd best team in the country. They beat Miami, won at Texas, and beat Missouri. Only loss was at Colorado. They have Iowa St, Baylor, ATM, TX TEch, and OK St. left to play.

With BC's remaining schedule I don't see them playing in the NC, they might be able to lose 1 game and still have a shot but the 4 other schools have to lose another.. LSU and OKlahoma are going to have to win out to have a shot at playing for the title. Ohio St. strength of schedule was WEAK this year, however if they lose 1 game they may fall past LSU or OK. This will be really interesting to watch how this plays out the rest of the season.

TD
10-16-2007, 07:22 AM
Oklahoma is probably the 2nd best team in the country. They beat Miami, won at Texas,......

I'm pretty sure Dallas is part of Oklahoma....if not in geography, then spirit (and IQ) :cowboy1:

TexanSam
10-16-2007, 07:57 AM
Looking at the remaining schedules I think South Florida actually has the best chance of all the top 5 of going to the National Championship.

Do you think the weak slate of games they have left will hurt their chances though?

bah007
10-16-2007, 08:12 AM
Do you think the weak slate of games they have left will hurt their chances though?

No. 3 of their 6 games left are against respectable opponents (at Rutgers, Cincinnati, Louisville).

I would also watch out for Oregon. I think they will beat USC & really jump into the picture.

YoungTexanFan
10-16-2007, 11:22 AM
All hail the undefeated KU!!!

Rock Chalk!

kastofsna
10-16-2007, 02:18 PM
USF will probably have to win big in some of those big games.

Texan_Bill
10-16-2007, 02:26 PM
USF will probably have to win big in some of those big games.

Having watched a couple of USF games, I can say that I have been impressed. I think they are legit (and I'm one that is usually critical of 'Cindarella' stories - i.e. Rutgers last year).

retxaB
10-21-2007, 07:51 PM
Looking at the remaining schedules I think South Florida actually has the best chance of all the top 5 of going to the National Championship.

Ohio State has played a joke of a schedule thus far. They've got some tough game remaining in Mich. St, at Penn St, Wisconsin, Illinois, at Michigan.

South Florida has beat some decent teams already, at Auburn and West Virginia. Their remaining schedule is at Rutgers, at Conn, Cincinnati, at Syracuse, Louisville, at Pittsburgh.

Boston College has won some good games but has the toughest schedule left imo. The beat Wake Forest, at GA Tech. but they have at VA tech, Florida St, at Maryland, at Clemson, Miami.

LSU is still the best team in the country imo. They beat Virginia Tech, South Carolina, and Florida. They lost to Kentucky in triple overtime. Of course being in the SEC they have a tough schedule remaining with Auburn, at Alabama, LA TEch, at Ole Miss, Arkansas

Oklahoma is probably the 2nd best team in the country. They beat Miami, won at Texas, and beat Missouri. Only loss was at Colorado. They have Iowa St, Baylor, ATM, TX TEch, and OK St. left to play.

With BC's remaining schedule I don't see them playing in the NC, they might be able to lose 1 game and still have a shot but the 4 other schools have to lose another.. LSU and OKlahoma are going to have to win out to have a shot at playing for the title. Ohio St. strength of schedule was WEAK this year, however if they lose 1 game they may fall past LSU or OK. This will be really interesting to watch how this plays out the rest of the season.

hmm, strong stances. LSU's defense looked like a division 1 team agianst auburn. So much for the SEC being so freakin tough...

Auburn beat Florida, almost beat LSU...kinda like an uncle grandpa situation to me:gun:

kastofsna
10-21-2007, 08:24 PM
once Dorsey went out, it all went downhill

bah007
10-21-2007, 10:09 PM
1. Ohio State - .976
2. Boston College - .950
3. LSU - .911
4. Arizona State - .763
5. Oregon - .762
6. Oklahoma - .755
7. West Virginia - .708
8. Virginia Tech - .678
9. Kansas - .648
10. South Florida - .641
11. Florida - .623
12. USC - .538
13. Missouri - .536
14. Kentucky - .453
15. Virginia - .433
16. South Carolina - .356
17. Hawaii - .285
18. Georgia - .249
19. Texas - .240
20. Michigan - .234
21. California - .197
22. Auburn - .189
23. Connecticut - .136
24. Alabama - .127
25. Penn State - .116

tulexan
10-21-2007, 10:28 PM
Next BCS rankings will have LSU and Oregon as 1 and 2.

kastofsna
10-21-2007, 11:03 PM
i don't see OSU losing anytime soon.

SF49erFaithful
10-21-2007, 11:14 PM
LSU is definitely the best team in the country IMO.

TexanSam
10-21-2007, 11:26 PM
LSU is definitely the best team in the country IMO.

Hopefully BC loses to Virginia Tech on Thursday so LSU can move back up

beerlover
10-21-2007, 11:26 PM
BCS should be used only for seeding into some type of playoff system :shades:

bah007
10-22-2007, 12:12 AM
BCS should be used only for seeding into some type of playoff system :shades:

:deadhorse

YoungTexanFan
10-22-2007, 12:37 AM
Kansas is still moving on up. Undefeated still and now a top 10 team. I actually see BC losing to VTech this weekend. I was hoping Mich St. would come up big saturday, but they didn't.

TexansLucky13
10-22-2007, 12:39 AM
Auburn is the best team in college football....

bah007
10-29-2007, 01:26 PM
1. Ohio State - .976
2. Boston College - .956
3. LSU - .888
4. Arizona State - .849
5. Oregon - .839
6. Oklahoma - .792
7. West Virginia - .776
8. Kansas - .772
9. Missouri - .610
10. Georgia - .582
11. Virginia Tech - .524
12. Michigan - .426
13. Connecticut - .380
14. Hawaii - .363
15. Texas - .344
16. Auburn - .330
17. Alabama - .325
18. South Florida - .322
19. USC - .318
20. Florida - .315
21. Wisconsin - .161
22. Boise State - .155
23. Virginia - .154
24. Wake Forest - .141
25. Clemson - .135


Interesting Notes:
Boston College ranked #6 in both human polls despite being tied #2 in the computers.
Texas ranked #11 & #12 in the human polls but unranked in every single computer.
USF ranked #20 & #21 in the human polls but ranked #12 by the computers.
USC ranked #13 & #15 in the human polls but ranked #25 by the computers (including the random #10 ranking by Richard Billingsley's computer).

Hookem Horns
10-29-2007, 01:38 PM
I am pulling for Kansas the rest of the way.

bah007
10-29-2007, 01:51 PM
I am pulling for Kansas the rest of the way.

If I had to guess right now:

I'm betting on LSU vs Oregon in the title game.

bah007
10-29-2007, 01:53 PM
I am pulling for Kansas the rest of the way.

Is Kansas lucky or what?

They get Nebraska at home right after Sam Keller goes out for the rest of the season.

kastofsna
10-29-2007, 03:20 PM
doesn't really matter who's on the field for Nebraska right now.

Hookem Horns
10-29-2007, 03:38 PM
I don't think Kansas is NC material by any means. I am just rooting for them. Actually, I am rooting for anything that fudges up the system. If any season has the potential to fudge up the system it is this one due to all the parody and upsets. I will never be as much of a fan of college football as I am the NFL as long as there is no playoff system.

YoungTexanFan
10-29-2007, 04:32 PM
Root for Kansas!! #8 overall!!

TexansSeminole
10-29-2007, 05:38 PM
If I had to guess right now:

I'm betting on LSU vs Oregon in the title game.

I've got LSU vs. Ohio St.

bah007
10-29-2007, 08:26 PM
I've got LSU vs. Ohio St.

I'm not entirely sold on Ohio State yet. But its not impossible for them to win out.

With that said, only Michigan is inconsistent enough to lose to Appalachian State & beat Ohio State in the same season.

YoungTexanFan
10-30-2007, 12:13 AM
Ohio State doesn't seem legit to me either, but they didn't really seem legit to many in 02 either.

However, they could very easily win out. I don't think Arizona St. will win out with Oregon and USC up for the next two weeks. Kansas really only has Mizzouri left.

threetoedpete
10-30-2007, 12:45 AM
Ohio State doesn't seem legit to me either, but they didn't really seem legit to many in 02 either.

However, they could very easily win out. I don't think Arizona St. will win out with Oregon and USC up for the next two weeks. Kansas really only has Mizzouri left.

The OSU have two senior Elite tackles a center and a power running back. And they play defense. They might not need more than that if they get past Michigan. BC is the new media Darlins.

Dorsey has a knee and the can't make up their minds on a QB.
Big twelve is a train wreck.

Personally I'd like to see an Oregon -W.Va. match up in one of the bowl games. The sparks should fly. I think whoever wins the gaunlet for the NC will be like twenty dollar bill in the middle of the road. Everyone is going to lay claim to it.

kastofsna
10-30-2007, 08:41 AM
OSU is clearly the #1 team right now. best defense in the country. and the offense gets better every game. could win the title this year, then will be one of the huge favorites next year. well, actually, UF is going to be sickening next year.

also looking foward to next year's USC/Ohio State matchup.

TexansSeminole
10-30-2007, 09:50 AM
OSU is clearly the #1 team right now. best defense in the country. and the offense gets better every game. could win the title this year, then will be one of the huge favorites next year. well, actually, UF is going to be sickening next year.

also looking foward to next year's USC/Ohio State matchup.

If UF doesn't quit tryna run their little receivers and quarterback up the middle...they will keep injuring their players.

bah007
11-05-2007, 05:36 PM
1. Ohio State - .995
2. LSU - .941
3. Oregon - .918
4. Kansas - .843
5. Oklahoma - .839
6. Missouri - .743
7. West Virginia - .741
8. Boston College - .698
9. Arizona State - .693
10. Georgia - .608
11. Virginia Tech - .565
12. Michigan - .492
13. Connecticut - .464
14. Texas - .440
15. Florida - .402
16. Hawaii - .377
17. USC - .376
18. Auburn - .331
19. Virginia - .275
20. Boise State - .233
21. Clemson - .229
22. Alabama - .167
23. Penn State - .124
24. Tennessee - .105
25. Kentucky - .091

bah007
11-05-2007, 06:55 PM
My LSU vs. Oregon prediction is lookin good right now...but only if Ohio St drops one.

Ole Miss Texan
11-05-2007, 07:38 PM
Ohio State schedule isn't that tough...they are getting into the hardest part now though..If they go undefeated they should go, however if they lose 1, they are going to drop past lsu,kansas,oregon, and oklahoma.

LSU-has by far the most intimidating schedule. They have beat the toughest teams and although they lost to kentucky (which was then ranked what 7th?) it was in triple overtime. They man handled VA tech when they were 7th? They've squeeked a couple games out but that's what good teams do...see New England Patriots yesterday.

Oregon- beat Michigan (who started slow), beat Souther Cal, beat Arizona St. (4th). Oregon is an incredible offense right now and they are hard to stop. Their one loss to Cal was in that last few minutes and Oregon almost won that game...oh so close to being undefeated

Kansas- such a good team and great story. The Bix XII is full of tough competition week in and week out but they don't play Texas, the don't play Oklahoma. You can't really control your schedule though, although its much tougher than Ohio St.'s If Kansas wins out, I think the play Missouri?..should def. move up though.

When I look LSU's schedule I just can't see how a team could go undefeated through that...it's almost unfair. Add to that they have to win the SEC championship which means they'd have to beat Auburn..AGAIN! If LSU's only loss is to Kentucky in 3-OT it would be an injustice for them not to go to the N.C. even if there are 2 undefeated teams imo.

I'd personally like to see Oregon and LSU.

beerlover
11-05-2007, 09:30 PM
OSU vs. LSU - thats a match-up of the best defense vs the best offense.

Oklahoma (wins the big 12) vs. Oregon in whats becoming a great rivalry.

the winners of those games then play for a real BCS game (week before SuperBowl) :devilpig:

YoungTexanFan
11-06-2007, 01:28 AM
If KU wins out, that means they beat #6 Mizzu in the final game of the season, and would have to beat #5 Oklahoma in the Big 12 Championship. If by some miricle Kansas wins out, they should play in the national title game.

Ole Miss Texan
11-06-2007, 09:20 AM
If KU wins out, that means they beat #6 Mizzu in the final game of the season, and would have to beat #5 Oklahoma in the Big 12 Championship. If by some miricle Kansas wins out, they should play in the national title game.

Yikes! That would be impressive.

Yankee_In_TX
11-06-2007, 09:29 AM
OSU, win out, win in NO. Players all come back, we repeat :)

Darn it, I want to be in the Dynasty talks, that would be 4 trips 3 wins in 7 years :)

Still trying to find a hotel in NO :(

tulexan
11-06-2007, 10:48 AM
OSU, win out, win in NO. Players all come back, we repeat :)

Darn it, I want to be in the Dynasty talks, that would be 4 trips 3 wins in 7 years :)

Still trying to find a hotel in NO :(

If they play LSU in New Orleans, there is no way in hell they are going to win that game.

kastofsna
11-06-2007, 11:19 AM
there would be PLENTY of OSU fans in New Orleans. and we all know how loud and obnoxious they are.

nunusguy
11-06-2007, 12:03 PM
If KU wins out, that means they beat #6 Mizzu in the final game of the season

Mizzou Tigers will stomp KU in KC this month !

YoungTexanFan
11-06-2007, 12:09 PM
Mizzou Tigers will stomp KU in KC this month !

Blasphemy! Wash your mouth with soap.

bah007
11-06-2007, 12:13 PM
If I'm a Kansas fan, Chase Daniels scares the hell out of me.

I'm gonna watch that game. It should be a great one.

bah007
11-11-2007, 08:42 PM
1. LSU - .980
2. Oregon - .938
3. Kansas - .909
4. Oklahoma - .854
5. Missouri - .810
6. West Virginia - .786
7. Ohio State - .774
8. Arizona State - .750
9. Georgia - .672
10. Virginia Tech - .613
11. USC - .527
12. Florida - .505
13. Texas - .466
14. Virginia - .407
15. Clemson - .392
16. Hawaii - .386
17. Boston College - .363
18. Boise State - .262
19. Illinois - .245
20. Tennessee - .239
21. Michigan - .187
22. Cincinnati - .184
23. Kentucky - .174
24. Connecticut - .148
25. Wisconsin - .120

awtysst
11-11-2007, 09:03 PM
1. LSU - .980
2. Oregon - .938
3. Kansas - .909
4. Oklahoma - .854
5. Missouri - .810
6. West Virginia - .786
7. Ohio State - .774
8. Arizona State - .750
9. Georgia - .672
10. Virginia Tech - .613
11. USC - .527
12. Florida - .505
13. Texas - .466
14. Virginia - .407
15. Clemson - .392
16. Hawaii - .386
17. Boston College - .363
18. Boise State - .262
19. Illinois - .245
20. Tennessee - .239
21. Michigan - .187
22. Cincinnati - .184
23. Kentucky - .174
24. Connecticut - .148
25. Wisconsin - .120

Texas really should be around 11. A 2 loss Texas should not be behind a 3 loss Florida.

bah007
11-11-2007, 09:08 PM
Texas really should be around 11. A 2 loss Texas should not be behind a 3 loss Florida.

I was suprised when USC & Florida came out in front of Texas but that debacle with Kansas State is killing their strength of schedule. What a terrible loss.

At least they didnt lose to Stanford tho.

I also think that Tim Tebow should win the Heisman. Everybody knows he is the guy but nobody can stop him.

beerlover
11-11-2007, 09:13 PM
how is Michigan still ahead of Wisconsin :confused:

bah007
11-11-2007, 09:21 PM
how is Michigan still ahead of Wisconsin :confused:

They are ranked a spot ahead of them in both human polls & are higher in the computer polls because Wisconsin is unranked in two computers (probably because Michigan beat two of the teams that Wisconsin lost to).

beerlover
11-11-2007, 09:56 PM
They are ranked a spot ahead of them in both human polls & are higher in the computer polls because Wisconsin is unranked in two computers (probably because Michigan beat two of the teams that Wisconsin lost to).

these polls (Tools) can be a joke as in this case & don't always reflect just how impressive a team is performing "right now". Wisconsin is clearly a healthy, better team now than Michigan which is struggling because of injurys in total dischord yet polls are unable to reflect reality or the fact they just got hammer'ed 16 :dangit:

bah007
11-11-2007, 10:02 PM
these polls (Tools) can be a joke as in this case & don't always reflect just how impressive a team is performing "right now". Wisconsin is clearly a healthy, better team now than Michigan which is struggling because of injurys in total dischord yet polls are unable to reflect reality or the fact they just got hammer'ed 16 :dangit:

I agree.

YoungTexanFan
11-12-2007, 12:54 AM
I was sorta hoping that KU would make up enough points to hope Oregon. I still don't think either 1-loss team should be ahead of KU. And Mizzu should not be ranked so high either.

bah007
11-12-2007, 12:57 AM
I was sorta hoping that KU would make up enough points to hope Oregon. I still don't think either 1-loss team should be ahead of KU. And Mizzu should not be ranked so high either.

Missouri's only loss is at Oklahoma.

YoungTexanFan
11-12-2007, 02:24 AM
Missouri's only loss is at Oklahoma.

I'm extremely biased against Missouri.

bah007
11-12-2007, 03:48 AM
I'm extremely biased against Missouri.

As you're a Kansas fan, I understand that.

But the higher Mizzou is ranked, the better it will feel when you beat them right?

Yankee_In_TX
11-12-2007, 09:03 AM
As you're a Kansas fan, I understand that.

But the higher Mizzou is ranked, the better it will feel when you beat them right?

The good news is they control their own destiny, but the BCS is otherwise screwing them.

kastofsna
11-12-2007, 09:08 AM
they'll be in the title game if they win out.

beerlover
11-12-2007, 09:21 AM
BCS this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQO2Rn5FIh4

Yankee_In_TX
11-13-2007, 06:04 PM
Interesting, how "if Oregon stumbles (including a bad win), then Kansas has a shot if they win out." Didn't LSU stumble at least twice?

Texan_Bill
11-13-2007, 06:13 PM
What impressive wins does Kansas have??. OSU (not that one Yankee) maybe... Other than that, they can help their cause if they beat Mizzou and win the Big 12..

On the other hand, LSU has beaten VaTech, Florida, Auburn, Alabama - but lost a close game at Kentucky.

LSU gets my vote.

Yankee_In_TX
11-13-2007, 06:16 PM
Well, I guess "margin of victory" was "technically" removed from the formula.

Ole Miss Texan
11-13-2007, 06:36 PM
LSU- Victories over...Mississippi St. (45-0), #9 Virginia Tech (48-7), Mid Tenn St. (44-0), #12 South Carolina (28-16), Tulane (34-9), #9 Florida (28-24), #17 Auburn (30-24), #17 Alabama (41-34), Lousiana Tech (58-10)
Only loss came at #17 Kentucky (43-37 in Triple Overtime).

Kansas- Victories over...Cen. Mich. (52-7), SE Louisiana (62-0), Toledo (45-13), FL Int (55-3), #24 Kansas St. (30-24), Baylor (58-10), Colorado (19-14), Texas ATM (19-11), Nebraska (76-39), Oklahoma St. (43-28).

The only teams Kansas has played that have a winning record are Central Michigan and Texas ATM. You can clearly see why LSU is ranked higher than Kansas at this point in time. However, if Kansas wins out by beating Iowa St. and #5 Missouri...then play #4 Oklahoma in the Big XII championship..Kansas will be ranked #1, justifiably too.

Untill then I'm more impressed with LSU's record than Kansas'...and this is coming from an LSU Rival and someone who wants to see Kansas vs. Oregon for the nat'l title.

Yankee_In_TX
11-13-2007, 06:39 PM
I was replying to that fact that Herbie said IF Oregon has a bad lwin, then an undefeated Kansas will leap them - implying LSU is untouchable.

By that logic, hasn't LSU stumbled 2-3 times? Or does strength of schedule overcome that for LSU and not for Oregon?

Ole Miss Texan
11-13-2007, 07:11 PM
Oregon- Victories over....Houston (48-27), Michigan (39-7), Fresno St. (52-21), Stanford (55-31), Wash St. (53-7), Washington (55-34), #12 Southern Cal (24-17), #4 Arizona St. (35-23)
Only loss to #6 California (31-24...which I believe Oregon almost scored at the end but fumbled out of the back of the endzone? didn't see the game).

The thing going for Kansas and LSU is the fact they place a conference. Kansas will most likely face #4 Oklahoma and LSU will most likely face #9 Georgia or #12 Florida. This would be a huge quality win for each team.

In my opinion that's why if LSU, Oregon, Kansas all win out then it will be LSU vs. Kansas. This would be the ideal position for proponents of having a playoff system- unfotunately a playoff bracket probably won't happen for a VERY long time, if ever.

Yankee_In_TX
11-13-2007, 07:29 PM
Yup, I think the bottom line of all my whining is that the playoffs plain make sense, lol!

YoungTexanFan
11-13-2007, 08:19 PM
I was replying to that fact that Herbie said IF Oregon has a bad lwin, then an undefeated Kansas will leap them - implying LSU is untouchable.

By that logic, hasn't LSU stumbled 2-3 times? Or does strength of schedule overcome that for LSU and not for Oregon?

IF KU wins out, they will beat two top 10 teams in the last 3 weeks. On the other hand, Oregon doesn't have a big name opponent left, and their BCS margin lead is not that large. I'm really hoping Florida wins the SEC, but I don't want Oregon to play in the NT game because their lack of conference tournament. I don't think they would beat a fully healthy USC.

threetoedpete
11-14-2007, 12:56 AM
Texas really should be around 11. A 2 loss Texas should not be behind a 3 loss Florida.

Mack Brown is having night mares bout Little Timmy. Texas matches up against Fla, The gators will hang fifty on them. It'll be Saint Vincent in reverse. Texas needs a pasty in the bowl game.

threetoedpete
11-14-2007, 01:02 AM
I'm extremely biased against Missouri.

As you should be. Chase Daniel and his flying tigers can put on a show. You know if by some miricale, LSU and Missouri match up that would be two South Lake Carrol dragon boys QBing in the game. If Missouri wins out...

YoungTexanFan
11-14-2007, 05:32 PM
As you should be. Chase Daniel and his flying tigers can put on a show. You know if by some miricale, LSU and Missouri match up that would be two South Lake Carrol dragon boys QBing in the game. If Missouri wins out...

Basicly, whatever Big 12 team wins out from Ok, KU, and Mizzu...is going to play in the NT game. Simple as that.

Yankee_In_TX
11-16-2007, 09:22 AM
TOTALLY forgot that was on last night!!

Well, now the incessant whining (from me) has stopped. I think, IMHO, the BCS is correct for the time being. But that's because I don't worry about OU, MIZZ, and KS's positions b/c they all play each other (this avoids a HUGE who is #2 argument - the BCS is lucking out with that one). With Oregon gone, LSU is the clear #1.

(of course I am hoping for all 3 Big 12 teams to lose and for OSU to leap WV with a huge win over Michigan, the computers have us 6, we need to slell the pollsters!)

Specnatz
11-16-2007, 10:52 AM
TOTALLY forgot that was on last night!!

Well, now the incessant whining (from me) has stopped. I think, IMHO, the BCS is correct for the time being. But that's because I don't worry about OU, MIZZ, and KS's positions b/c they all play each other (this avoids a HUGE who is #2 argument - the BCS is lucking out with that one). With Oregon gone, LSU is the clear #1.

(of course I am hoping for all 3 Big 12 teams to lose and for OSU to leap WV with a huge win over Michigan, the computers have us 6, we need to slell the pollsters!)

Unless LSU loses again and Kansas loses barely in the Big 12 Championchip game.

Yankee_In_TX
11-16-2007, 11:10 AM
Unless LSU loses again and Kansas loses barely in the Big 12 Championchip game.

If LSU loses again I think they drop a lot. I think the polls will hammer them for all their barely wins (of course, I could be completely wrong). If KS loses this late, they're done. The media seems to hate them, they cannot lose.

Specnatz
11-16-2007, 11:39 AM
If LSU loses again I think they drop a lot. I think the polls will hammer them for all their barely wins (of course, I could be completely wrong). If KS loses this late, they're done. The media seems to hate them, they cannot lose.

What I mean is that you said the BCS is lucking out with how things are playing out. If those two things happen and then it because a total fubar situation yet again. Which I sorta would like because not haveing a playoff is not very smart.

bah007
11-16-2007, 11:45 AM
What I mean is that you said the BCS is lucking out with how things are playing out. If those two things happen and then it because a total fubar situation yet again. Which I sorta would like because not haveing a playoff is not very smart.

I just dont get it. Why do you want the worst thing to happen?

A playoff is not going to happen, so why not just hope the best matchup occurs?

That's my perspective at least.

TexansSeminole
11-16-2007, 11:59 AM
I may be Biased but I think it is rediculous where Florida is ranked. I understand they won it last year but they do not deserve to be at #12, basically one win out from the top 10 at 7-3.

threetoedpete
11-16-2007, 12:10 PM
I may be Biased but I think it is rediculous where Florida is ranked. I understand they won it last year but they do not deserve to be at #12, basically one win out from the top 10 at 7-3.

Well look at the positive side, You get a Texas match up and get steak for New Years day brunch. Well on the one hand you could say the SEC is a beast and the gators should get extra credit for playing a beastly schedule. I think what the polsters are saying is the Big twelve north is no longer loaded with patsies top to the bottom as in recent years. It'll shake out the next three weeks. We'll see.
Bottom line is a team better take care of it's own bussiness when they have the oportunity.

Yankee_In_TX
11-16-2007, 12:41 PM
What I mean is that you said the BCS is lucking out with how things are playing out.

and therefore I have less to whine about :)

I'm with you, I always want the worst. WHY? Build pressure for a playoff system. And forget the whiney Pac-10. I call their bluff on that anyway.

Specnatz
11-16-2007, 12:54 PM
and therefore I have less to whine about :)

I'm with you, I always want the worst. WHY? Build pressure for a playoff system. And forget the whiney Pac-10. I call their bluff on that anyway.

Like where would they go?

Ole Miss Texan
11-16-2007, 01:04 PM
I may be Biased but I think it is rediculous where Florida is ranked. I understand they won it last year but they do not deserve to be at #12, basically one win out from the top 10 at 7-3.

Personally I think Florida IS better than Texas, Virginia, Clemson, Hawaii, Boston College, Boise State, Illinois, Tennessee, Michigan, Cincinnati, Kentucky, Connecticut, Wisconsin.

I understand your point though and somewhat agree...I just don't think they would be too far down judging on who's behind them.

awtysst
11-17-2007, 11:50 PM
So, with both Oregon and Oklahoma going down, anyone wanting to predict the new BCS?

kastofsna
11-18-2007, 12:39 AM
kansas at #2.

awtysst
11-18-2007, 01:16 AM
So, with both Oregon and Oklahoma going down, anyone wanting to predict the new BCS?

Ok here is my top 5:

1. LSU
2. Kansas
3. Missouri
4. West Virginia
5. Ohio State

Anyone bold enough to do the whole 25 or top 10?

Next week's Kansas-Missouri game will put one of the teams into the Big XII Championship game and a potential Natl championship. The loser looks like a possible Cotton, Gator, or even Holliday bowl bid in a worst case scenario or in a best case scenario, a BCS at large bid.

Yankee_In_TX
11-18-2007, 05:56 AM
Ok here is my top 5:

1. LSU
2. Kansas
3. Missouri
4. West Virginia
5. Ohio State


Because I have been whining all week, no one will believe me, but I honestly think OSU is a better team than WV. I'll do a top 10 after the game today,

edo783
11-18-2007, 07:42 AM
I can't say I have paid much attention to college ball over the years, but I don't remember ever seeing a season like this one where the top ten seems to be in a blender and just keeps getting mixed up.

Specnatz
11-18-2007, 10:54 AM
Because I have been whining all week, no one will believe me, but I honestly think OSU is a better team than WV. I'll do a top 10 after the game today,

Normally I would throw an insulting smartass joke here and the whinny stuff, but can't bring myself to do it to Yankee (only ohio state fan I know I like). Seriously, though I understand your frustration.

Honestly I am not sure where I would put OSU, I understand a case could be made for having them higher than WV, but one could also make a case for them being a lower than where they really are. OSU has only one decent win, and that is over Wisconsin at home.

bah007
11-18-2007, 10:28 PM
1. LSU – .990
2. Kansas – .949
3. West Virginia – .888
4. Missouri – .871
5. Ohio State – .860
6. Arizona State – .802
7. Georgia – .744
8. Virginia Tech – .680
9. Oregon – .627
10. Oklahoma – .582
11. USC – .567
12. Florida – .543
13. Texas – .514
14. Boston College – .485
15. Hawaii – .4249
16. Virginia – .4246
17. Illinois – .321
18. Tennessee – .314
19. Boise State – .282
20. Connecticut – .252
21. Wisconsin – .189
22. Clemson – .167
23. South Florida – .123
24. Cincinnati – .098
25. BYU – .086

kastofsna
11-18-2007, 10:46 PM
two more wins and Hawaii is in a BCS game. WVU desperately wants Missouri to beat Kansas and OU to beat Missouri.

bah007
11-18-2007, 11:00 PM
I missed on my Oregon vs. LSU prediction.

I missed on my Michigan over Ohio State prediction (what was I drinkin?).

But I'm predicting a Boise State win over Hawaii.

kastofsna
11-18-2007, 11:12 PM
hoping Hawaii runs the table. something about a school like Hawaii making it makes me happy.

YoungTexanFan
11-18-2007, 11:37 PM
two more wins and Hawaii is in a BCS game. WVU desperately wants Missouri to beat Kansas and OU to beat Missouri.

KU - Mizzu is going to be a shootout.

OU depends completely on Bradford. Without him they are out of the BCS games. Without him, they don't beat either Mizzu or KU.

bah007
11-18-2007, 11:43 PM
KU - Mizzu is going to be a shootout.

OU depends completely on Bradford. Without him they are out of the BCS games. Without him, they don't beat either Mizzu or KU.

If DeMarco Murray's injury isnt serious then they still have a chance.

That kid is special.