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CloakNNNdagger
10-12-2007, 10:14 PM
This is Henry's last ditch effort (http://origin.denverpost.com/williamson/ci_7152628) to avoid a 1 year suspension>>>>>>>>My pee contains someone else's weed. I guess if that fails he could say>>>>>>>>The guy at the next urinal splashed some of his urine into my cup............


Travis Henry's lawsuit against the NFL is being closely watched across the country. Many believe it can be a landmark case if Henry wins.

There are many who believe the Broncos' star running back might be innocent since his case likely will revolve around low levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in his urine sample. Henry's case is expected to revolve around the possibility of secondhand marijuana smoke and his willingness to submit to a lie detector test and give hair samples. Those moves could make his case viable.

Still, many in the league don't expect him to win, but his victory would change the way positive drug tests are approached by players and their representatives and could have an effect on how the substance abuse program is operated. The NFL is very difficult to beat legally, especially in the case of drug testing. Thus, the consensus is Henry eventually will be suspended, and it could be November before such a move is finalized after the appeal process.................

stingray
10-12-2007, 10:23 PM
He's Toast.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-12-2007, 10:43 PM
I guess Travis Henry is innocent.
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tulexan
10-12-2007, 11:09 PM
Well if that is the case, it should be pretty easy to figure out. I believe this happened to a Canadian snowboarder in the Olympics several years ago. Second hand smoke should have a lower concentration in his urine (unless it was a lot of second hand smoke)

bah007
10-12-2007, 11:13 PM
Well if that is the case, it should be pretty easy to figure out. I believe this happened to a Canadian snowboarder in the Olympics several years ago. Second hand smoke should have a lower concentration in his urine (unless it was a lot of second hand smoke)

Was Ricky Williams in Canada yet?

That would explain some things.

kastofsna
10-13-2007, 10:13 AM
it's certainly plausible. he seems pretty confident. but i hope he gets suspended regardless because i need Ronnie Brown to get that rushing title thx

The1ApplePie
10-13-2007, 10:14 AM
Suspending a guy for a year for weed:gun:

Leonard Little kills somebody and he only gets a couple of games.

Vinny
10-13-2007, 10:16 AM
Suspending a guy for a year for weed:gun:

Leonard Little kills somebody and he only gets a couple of games.Weed is illegal like it or not....that's on the public who is idiotic enough to have a "war on drugs" and include pot moreso than the NFL is a demon for making illegal activities punishable. The NFL didn't make pot illegal...we did. Little got drunk and drove...just like thousands and thousands of NFL fans do each Sunday....so its hard for me to equate his bad decision to murder. I've seen hundreds of people who post here at games drunk as hell...and none of them took the bus to the game.

kastofsna
10-13-2007, 10:19 AM
it's not hard for me. his actions resulted in someone dying. Travis Henry's actions resulted in the local Circle K being low on Funions.

Vinny
10-13-2007, 10:27 AM
it's not hard for me. his actions resulted in someone dying. Travis Henry's actions resulted in the local Circle K being low on Funions.
I just don't do this kind of kindergarten logic. That's how kids work their parents when they get into trouble. Henry had no accident...he violates a drug policy rule not once, not twice, but 3 times and the rule clearly states that you can't play for X amount of games if you are a 3 time loser. He knew the punishment and I don't feel sorry for him. Like it or not, our society has declared marijuana use illegal and as long as it is illegal I don't have a problem with the NFL policy of suspending him for knowingly using the illegal drug. Breaking the law is breaking the law...I don't condone it and I think it is not something the NFL should condone if illegal. The alternative is societal anarchy.

Kaiser Toro
10-13-2007, 10:30 AM
I just don't do this kind of kindergarten logic. That's how kids work their parents when they get into trouble. Henry had no accident...he violates a drug policy rule not once, not twice, but 3 times and the rule clearly states that you can't play for X amount of games if you are a 3 time loser. He knew the punishment and I don't feel sorry for him. Like it or not, our society has declared marijuana use illegal and as long as it is illegal I don't have a problem with the NFL policy of suspending him for knowingly using the illegal drug. Breaking the law is breaking the law...I don't condone it and I think it is not something the NFL should condone if illegal. The alternative is societal anarchy.

Your logic is flawed as Funions do not lead to anarchy.

Specnatz
10-13-2007, 10:33 AM
Suspending a guy for a year for weed:gun:

Leonard Little kills somebody and he only gets a couple of games.

Is this your defense for every damn case? You used it in the Vick case and now Travis Henry.

Besides if you are dumb enough to be around others committing illegal activities you deserve to get suspended. My job does drug testing, so I keep my ass as far away from Pot. If I see someone smoking it I leave, if I hear about people talking about doing it I tell them not around me. I have friends who smoke and they understand my lively hood dictates I not be around it. How much freakin brians does that take? If you worked at Miller, would you walk into work wearing a Budweiser shirt?

Oh and one more thing this would not be his first offense it would be his third.

1. On the first offense of violating the leagues substance abuse policy you are placed in madatory testing and monitoring.

2. A second positive test you have (generally) a four game suspension

3. Your next positive test you are (usually) suspended a year.

Now I do not have a copy of the rule book but this has been the case for decades. I am sure someone can come up with the actual by-laws.

First time I by the whole opps it was not mine Bull crap. Second, ok ya know ya did not think you would get caught syndrome, but a third. You have to either need to check your ass into the betty ford clinic or your one dumb SOB who does not deserve to be in the NFL.

Vinny
10-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Your logic is flawed as Funions do not lead to anarchy.You are right, every time a player breaks a rule on a habitual, ongoing basis and gets the punishment that they agreed to when they signed their contracts they need to point and cry and say how unfair the rules are after they cash their game checks.

The1ApplePie
10-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Got to LOL at Weed being illegal but booze being ok. I've known people that ruined their lives on booze (I damn near did myself) but I have yet to meet a person whose life was destroyed by weed.

Like I said in the other thread, booze, nicotice, and weed are all drugs, and if you use any one of those, you are a drug user.

Specnatz
10-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Your logic is flawed as Funions do not lead to anarchy.

No but the disregard of laws does. :pirate:

Kaiser Toro
10-13-2007, 10:36 AM
You are right, every time a player breaks a rule on a habitual, ongoing basis and gets the punishment that they agreed to when they signed their contracts they need to point and cry and say how unfair the rules are after they cash their game checks.

......and buy Funions

Specnatz
10-13-2007, 10:36 AM
Got to LOL at Weed being illegal but booze being ok. I've known people that ruined their lives on booze (I damn near did myself) but I have yet to meet a person whose life was destroyed by weed.

Like I said in the other thread, booze, nicotice, and weed are all drugs, and if you use any one of those, you are a drug user.

Ricky Williams!!

The1ApplePie
10-13-2007, 10:37 AM
No but the disregard of laws does. :pirate:

Getting drunk and killing somebody is less a crime than smoking weed?

Vinny
10-13-2007, 10:37 AM
Got to LOL at Weed being illegal but booze being ok. That's not on the NFL pards...that's on you and me and everyone you know. The NFL didn't make pot illegal, we did. If you don't like it you should try to force change in society.

Kaiser Toro
10-13-2007, 10:37 AM
No but the disregard of laws does. :pirate:

This does not apply when one is enjoying Funions.

kastofsna
10-13-2007, 10:39 AM
people's lives are destroyed by weed because of the ridiculous ancient dumb religious right laws on them, not because they actually do anything harmful to anybody. and yes, alcohol has done a lot worse.

but trust me, i'm not trying to say alcohol should be illegal. i think adults should be treated like adults, and those who go overboard should be punished for it. otherwise, let adults act like adults.

Specnatz
10-13-2007, 10:46 AM
people's lives are destroyed by weed because of the ridiculous ancient dumb religious right laws on them, not because they actually do anything harmful to anybody. and yes, alcohol has done a lot worse.

but trust me, i'm not trying to say alcohol should be illegal. i think adults should be treated like adults, and those who go overboard should be punished for it. otherwise, let adults act like adults.

So much for you actually having common sense. If you think that only lives are destroyed by weed because of laws that are out of date then you are sadly mistaken. Cronic users can suffer the same fate as chronic users of alcohol. I guess weed is to powerful for people not to use it because they know it is illegal and they know the laws do not fit the crime as you say it, but they still do it. So was it the weed the destroyed the life or the law that was already in place when the individual chose to break the law over weed?

Vinny
10-13-2007, 10:49 AM
So much for you actually having common sense. If you think that only lives are destroyed by weed because of laws that are out of date then you are sadly mistaken. Cronic users can suffer the same fate as chronic users of alcohol. lol...alcohol is much worse than pot on many, many levels, short term and long term. It's a huge societal hypocrisy...it's all about money.

infantrycak
10-13-2007, 10:57 AM
Cronic users can suffer the same fate as chronic users of alcohol.

If the best you can do is analogize it to something legal then maybe it should be, umm, legal.

Government which governs least, governs best.

Double Barrel
10-13-2007, 10:58 AM
lol...alcohol is much worse than pot on many, many levels, short term and long term. It's a huge societal hypocrisy...it's all about money.

Bingo! It's always about the money.

We, the people, let big industry dictate legislation. The biggest contributors to the lobbies to keep hemp illegal are the industries of pharmaceutical, alcohol, tobacco, and plastics. Follow the money down the rabbit hole and it's not that hard to figure out.

It is an asinine policy that we won't even let industrial hemp be grown in the U.S., which is not a plant to get high from. It is a renewable resource that could be a viable alternative to many base products. But the so-called "war on drugs" and active campaign mentioned above to keep all hemp illegal will not let it happen without the majority of Americans having some common sense and a desire to change the status quo. Fat chance that will ever happen.

Specnatz
10-13-2007, 10:59 AM
lol...alcohol is much worse than pot on many, many levels, short term and long term. It's a huge societal hypocrisy...it's all about money.

Very hard to say because one is legal and one is not. I honestly believe that if weed was legal there would be a huge increase in problems resulting for its use. I only have my limited experiences to go on with dealings of users but I have seen some who can handle and some who cant, the same with alcohol.

Of course let me say my experiences have been very limited since I chose not to be around it. My experiences came when I was in my teens and early 20s.


EDIT:

Let me admin this so you know my stance, I think it should be legal and tax the living crap out of it and the same goes for prostitution.

BigBull17
10-13-2007, 11:00 AM
I just don't do this kind of kindergarten logic. That's how kids work their parents when they get into trouble. Henry had no accident...he violates a drug policy rule not once, not twice, but 3 times and the rule clearly states that you can't play for X amount of games if you are a 3 time loser. He knew the punishment and I don't feel sorry for him. Like it or not, our society has declared marijuana use illegal and as long as it is illegal I don't have a problem with the NFL policy of suspending him for knowingly using the illegal drug. Breaking the law is breaking the law...I don't condone it and I think it is not something the NFL should condone if illegal. The alternative is societal anarchy.

I think he should be suspended, just like Little should have recieved more punishment. Screw this" its only weed tyalk" weed is illegal, as is killing people.

Vinny
10-13-2007, 11:03 AM
I think he should be suspended, just like Little should have recieved more punishment. Screw this" its only weed tyalk" weed is illegal, as is killing people.
I just run too many NFL forums and have read too many of these arguments I think...every time someone breaks a rule someone brings up Leonard Little and his drunken driving case....I'm just sick of the easy cop out argument I guess......it just reminds me of when you try to discipline kids. They don't take responsibility for their behavior, they just point to someone else who did something wrong.

infantrycak
10-13-2007, 11:05 AM
Let me admin this so you know my stance, I think it should be legal and tax the living crap out of it and the same goes for prostitution.

Exactly. Legalize it and even with a 100% tax it would be cheaper than now. Then do the same as with alcohol and have it considered as an enhancement in sentencing. Ditto with prostitution. Make money off it instead of spending money to stop something which will never be stopped. Plus end the hypocrisy of saying it is illegal and then letting 100's of whorehouses, escort services, etc. operate in every city.

PS--Henry should serve his time even if it should be legal--like Vinny said, he broke the rule.

Interesting side note though. At least in one report, Henry may have a point. The collective bargaining agreement says the player can have an expert present. The NFL decided on its own not to allow experts "affiliated" with a lab. Henry's was, but if that isn't part of the CBA the NFL may have overstepped its bounds.

Specnatz
10-13-2007, 11:09 AM
Exactly. Legalize it and even with a 100% tax it would be cheaper than now. Then do the same as with alcohol and have it considered as an enhancement in sentencing. Ditto with prostitution. Make money off it instead of spending money to stop something which will never be stopped. Plus end the hypocrisy of saying it is illegal and then letting 100's of whorehouses, escort services, etc. operate in every city.

PS--Henry should serve his time even if it should be legal--like Vinny said, he broke the rule.

I agree 100%, but I still think that there would be more problems with weed if it is legalized, how much more who knows. No one does.

Oh and both should be highly regulated.

(I Do Not Want the Piolet of an AirPlane Stoned).



This would be a bad time to sniff glue

Kaiser Toro
10-13-2007, 11:13 AM
Exactly. Legalize it and even with a 100% tax it would be cheaper than now. Then do the same as with alcohol and have it considered as an enhancement in sentencing. Ditto with prostitution. Make money off it instead of spending money to stop something which will never be stopped. Plus end the hypocrisy of saying it is illegal and then letting 100's of whorehouses, escort services, etc. operate in every city.

All you would be doing is putting entrepreneurs like Scorpio, Mr. White Folks and Big Lex out of business. I do not want Big Brother messing with my brokers unless he has an invite to the Player's Ball.

ATX
10-13-2007, 11:16 AM
I just run too many NFL forums and have read too many of these arguments I think...every time someone breaks a rule someone brings up Leonard Little and his drunken driving case....I'm just sick of the easy cop out argument I guess......it just reminds me of when you try to discipline kids. They don't take responsibility for their behavior, they just point to someone else who did something wrong.

How long was Merriman's suspension for steroids? Just curious because it seems like Steroid users might be getting off a little easier than the pot smokers. Doesn't make sense as both are illegal, yet steroids are going to have more impact on improving player's performance.

Specnatz
10-13-2007, 11:19 AM
How long was Merriman's suspension for steroids? Just curious because it seems like Steroid users might be getting off a little easier than the pot smokers. Doesn't make sense as both are illegal, yet steroids are going to have more impact on improving player's performance.


Actually steroids first offense is 4 games. Forget what the second offense is but I can bet it is longer than 6.

ATX
10-13-2007, 11:20 AM
Exactly. Legalize it and even with a 100% tax it would be cheaper than now. Then do the same as with alcohol and have it considered as an enhancement in sentencing. Ditto with prostitution. Make money off it instead of spending money to stop something which will never be stopped. Plus end the hypocrisy of saying it is illegal and then letting 100's of whorehouses, escort services, etc. operate in every city.


It would also slow down the flow of dirty, cheap, low quality Mexican weed known as Schwag. Why the Mexicans never turned it into Hashish like the Morrocans baffles me.

ATX
10-13-2007, 11:20 AM
Actually steroids first offense is 4 games. Forget what the second offense is but I can bet it is longer than 6.

and if your numbers are good enough, you might still get to go to the probowl.....talk about hypocrisy.

Specnatz
10-13-2007, 11:27 AM
and if your numbers are good enough, you might still get to go to the probowl.....talk about hypocrisy.

I think the rules committee looked into this past offseason, Vinny would know that. Not sure if they did or were going to do it after this year because of all the controversy surounding Merrian going to the probowl.

The1ApplePie
10-13-2007, 01:38 PM
It would also slow down the flow of dirty, cheap, low quality Mexican weed known as Schwag. Why the Mexicans never turned it into Hashish like the Morrocans baffles me.

The same reason piss poor beer like Miller Lite and Coors sells like hot cakes or crappy menthyal smokes sell well; they are cheap, and most American's don't expect quality in their drugs.

Now, me, if I am going to punish my liver I'll use some high quality booze or if I want to get a nic fix, I'll go with something handrolled.

YellerLotYeller
10-13-2007, 01:57 PM
MMMM...K
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edo783
10-13-2007, 05:20 PM
All of this is just Reefer madness talk.

Overalls
10-13-2007, 05:49 PM
OK when did Funions become illegal?





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awtysst
10-14-2007, 02:10 AM
Ok, I think we can finally put to rest the myth that weed lowers your sperm count and we can thank Travis "I have fathered nine children with nine different women in 4 states" Henry.

powerfuldragon
10-15-2007, 12:04 PM
funions are so good.

The1ApplePie
10-15-2007, 12:14 PM
I just run too many NFL forums and have read too many of these arguments I think...every time someone breaks a rule someone brings up Leonard Little and his drunken driving case....I'm just sick of the easy cop out argument I guess......it just reminds me of when you try to discipline kids. They don't take responsibility for their behavior, they just point to someone else who did something wrong.

Yeah it is.

Henry smoked a harmless drug
Little Killed Somebody

run-david-run
10-15-2007, 05:03 PM
it's certainly plausible. he seems pretty confident. but i hope he gets suspended regardless because i need Ronnie Brown to get that rushing title thx
Its the little things in life, right Kas?

Vinny
10-15-2007, 07:30 PM
From the Pats fan who broght you He's Always Houshmandzadeh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Vt59UnuVc&mode=user&search=), here is his newest parody...Marijuana Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yMdVHruUfI)

Hagar
10-15-2007, 09:00 PM
We, the people, let big industry dictate legislation. The biggest contributors to the lobbies to keep hemp illegal are the industries of pharmaceutical, alcohol, tobacco, and plastics. Follow the money down the rabbit hole and it's not that hard to figure out.I'm going to disagree on this one. I don't think Pot is still illegal because of big business, itís still illegal because of the religious rightís choke hold on the Republican Party. While I have no facts to back this claim up, I'd say the religious right is the strongest lobby in DC these days.

Anyway, its just :twocents:

Chance_C
10-18-2007, 02:32 PM
It's Funyuns!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool: