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Texanmike02
09-30-2007, 11:21 PM
Ok. This is a far fetched idea. I'll give you that. You don't usually see trades, espeically involving starters in the season. So I'm thinking we are going after a RB in the offseason. Why not call SD right now. "Hey man unless you franchise Turner you're losing him next year. I'll give you a 4th rounder with considerations that could turn into a 3rd next year."

He's fast enough to make it in this league. He's big. He can make that one cut and run. He can catch. He can block.

Just a thought.


Mike

AnthonyE
09-30-2007, 11:23 PM
I want the Burner Turner.

bckey
09-30-2007, 11:29 PM
Ok. This is a far fetched idea. I'll give you that. You don't usually see trades, espeically involving starters in the season. So I'm thinking we are going after a RB in the offseason. Why not call SD right now. "Hey man unless you franchise Turner you're losing him next year. I'll give you a 4th rounder with considerations that could turn into a 3rd next year."

He's fast enough to make it in this league. He's big. He can make that one cut and run. He can catch. He can block.

Just a thought.


Mike

What is that song by Aerosmith? Dream on.

dalemurphy
09-30-2007, 11:33 PM
Ok. This is a far fetched idea. I'll give you that. You don't usually see trades, espeically involving starters in the season. So I'm thinking we are going after a RB in the offseason. Why not call SD right now. "Hey man unless you franchise Turner you're losing him next year. I'll give you a 4th rounder with considerations that could turn into a 3rd next year."

He's fast enough to make it in this league. He's big. He can make that one cut and run. He can catch. He can block.

Just a thought.


Mike

If they lose him in free agency, they will get a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick. So, it would take a 1st to get him- and I'm not willing to do that.

Errant Hothy
10-01-2007, 08:07 AM
If they lose him in free agency, they will get a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick. So, it would take a 1st to get him- and I'm not willing to do that.

Not only that (losing a first for him),but I'm not wiling to even give up the third or the fourth. Will the second rounders wre appearing to be a low cost for Schuab we still have to conserve draft picks for next year, and add to that the 08 draft isgoing to be stocked at RB...No thanks.

Now if we can sign him in FA that's another story, but I'm still not sold on him yet. Playing behind a good line, behind LT, and for a coach who knows how to establish a runnig game (well, atleast up untill this year anyways) may have inflated is stats and value some. Now if Rick Smith were to come out and say we signed Turner and Smith is excited about the signing, then I'll get excited.

feebleminded
10-01-2007, 09:45 AM
If they lose him in free agency, they will get a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick. So, it would take a 1st to get him- and I'm not willing to do that.

I dont see any way that scenario would take place. The whole compensatory picks calcuation considers net additions/subtractions during the FA period. Plus the guy was originally drafted in the 5th round.

I don't think it would take a first rounder to get him, but I cant see us trading for him either.

Hook'er
10-02-2007, 09:32 PM
Ok. This is a far fetched idea. I'll give you that. You don't usually see trades, espeically involving starters in the season. So I'm thinking we are going after a RB in the offseason. Why not call SD right now. "Hey man unless you franchise Turner you're losing him next year. I'll give you a 4th rounder with considerations that could turn into a 3rd next year."

He's fast enough to make it in this league. He's big. He can make that one cut and run. He can catch. He can block.

Just a thought.


Mike

If we are going to wait till next year to upgrade the RB position, I would rather get a young stud out of the Draft. I tired of getting other teams rejects to try to upgrade that position. Lets get RAY RICE!:texflag:

otisbean
10-03-2007, 08:53 AM
Turner is a beast; big, physical, and nasty with break away speed. I would certainly be open to signing him as a FA. I would not trade for him because you can get him for nothing at the end of the year. I know there are alot of back available in 08, but signing MT would allow us to address either CB2, FS, SS or LT. I know Samuels will be available but will almost certainly demand BIG $$$.

bigbrewster2000
10-03-2007, 09:07 AM
Ok. This is a far fetched idea. I'll give you that. You don't usually see trades, espeically involving starters in the season. So I'm thinking we are going after a RB in the offseason. Why not call SD right now. "Hey man unless you franchise Turner you're losing him next year. I'll give you a 4th rounder with considerations that could turn into a 3rd next year."

He's fast enough to make it in this league. He's big. He can make that one cut and run. He can catch. He can block.

Just a thought.


Mike

Well Turner will probably be available in FA like everyone else is saying, so I really don't want him in a trade. I am not sure he is not quite as good as some people think he is. I don't think that we are in a position to trade draft picks either. We need all of our picks. I would not mind having him but breaking the bank for him would not make me a happy camper.

And there is no chance that Turner gets Franchised. That would be bad business. He would get the average of the top5 RB's saleries to sit the bench.

WesmanTexanfan
01-13-2008, 03:02 PM
i was a skeptic.... but freakin sign this RB.......

brakos82
01-13-2008, 03:04 PM
:thinking: Go for it.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-13-2008, 03:09 PM
i was a skeptic.... but freakin sign this RB.......




But Taylor and Walker are the future! :gun:

brakos82
01-13-2008, 03:10 PM
And Ron Dayne...

Joe Texan
01-13-2008, 03:25 PM
And Ron Dayne...


Stop it man your making me Hungry

brakos82
01-13-2008, 03:28 PM
Stop it man your making me Hungry
At least I didn't tell you about the steak I had last night.

AnthonyE
01-13-2008, 03:30 PM
Do whatever it takes. :O

Honoring Earl 34
01-13-2008, 03:30 PM
But Taylor and Walker are the future! :gun:

Of the OTA sessions .

LonerATO
01-13-2008, 03:37 PM
i am not saying we should sign him but he is a beast too bad his qb is classles and likes to jaw opposing fans

Mailman
01-13-2008, 03:41 PM
71 yds on 17 carries isn't sufficient for me to change my view on him

The1ApplePie
01-13-2008, 03:42 PM
i was a skeptic.... but freakin sign this RB.......

Might as well sign Sporles as well, because they are both just a product of the same O-Line that blocks for LT.

Give Gado that line, and he puts up similar numbers.

ATX
01-13-2008, 03:48 PM
71 yds on 17 carries isn't sufficient for me to change my view on him

4.2 yards a carry, which included that last drive where Indy knew they were going to run and stacked the box. It isn't like he hasn't shown consistency over the years in SD, look at his stats. I've been watching him the past few years and he's pretty damn good. He rarely fumbles and has deceptive break away speed......again he's got multiple 50+ yard runs in his career. He's just behind the best back in the league or else he'd be starting on many teams in this league. I don't know if I'd throw a ton of money at him, but he's going to be productive the next place he goes.

Mailman
01-13-2008, 03:52 PM
4.2 yards a carry, which included that last drive where Indy knew they were going to run and stacked the box. It isn't like he hasn't shown consistency over the years in SD, look at his stats. I've been watching him the past few years and he's pretty damn good. He rarely fumbles and has deceptive break away speed......again he's got multiple 50+ yard runs in his career. He's just behind the best back in the league or else he'd be starting on many teams in this league. I don't know if I'd throw a ton of money at him, but he's going to be productive the next place he goes.

I agree with everything you wrote, but he's sure to command a price beyond his worth IMO. I'd rather take a RB with our 3rd round pick rather than pay for Turner in free agency.

otisbean
01-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Because there are a ton of young productive backs in the draft, he may not get a over priced offer. I think if he can had for AG money then get him and address other needs in the secondary and OL.

b0ng
01-13-2008, 04:02 PM
Because there are a ton of young productive backs in the draft, he may not get a over priced offer. I think if he can had for AG money then get him and address other needs in the secondary and OL.

We really don't need 2 backs making AG money this next season (Even if he gets cut he's still a major cap hit.)

ATX
01-13-2008, 04:06 PM
I agree with everything you wrote, but he's sure to command a price beyond his worth IMO. I'd rather take a RB with our 3rd round pick rather than pay for Turner in free agency.

I keep hearing that, but will he really command a really high price? It seem the market for RBs has changed and he might be cheaper than many are predicting. I'm torn on the issue between picking him up or drafting a RB this year.

tulexan
01-13-2008, 04:07 PM
We really don't need 2 backs making AG money this next season (Even if he gets cut he's still a major cap hit.)

Except we would actually save money by cutting him.

Mailman
01-13-2008, 04:08 PM
We really don't need 2 backs making AG money this next season (Even if he gets cut he's still a major cap hit.)

Yup. I prefer to throw that money at a free agent CB.

b0ng
01-13-2008, 04:09 PM
I keep hearing that, but will he really command a really high price? It seem the market for RBs has changed and he might be cheaper than many are predicting. I'm torn on the issue between picking him up or drafting a RB this year.

What other RB's are coming out in FA along with him? Actually, now that I look there's some decent RB's coming out along with him, but he's going to command the most interest. I'd imagine that he's going to want more than what Ahman Green got, and that is probably out of our price range to be honest :(

PHAROAH
01-13-2008, 04:59 PM
But Taylor and Walker are the future! :gun:
Dude your crazy if you think Darius Walker & Taylor the future Franchise running backs your out of your mind!!!! I say draft two running backs this year we should be tired of free agent running backs and drafting them is the cheapest route.

LonerATO
01-13-2008, 05:19 PM
Yup. I prefer to throw that money at a free agent CB.

I second that or even suggs or briggs there is just too much rb talent coming out into the draft

WesmanTexanfan
01-13-2008, 05:24 PM
But Taylor and Walker are the future! :gun:

ya.... good point, wouldnt mind having turner backem up though... a pounder like dane

kiwitexansfan
01-13-2008, 05:27 PM
I agree with everything you wrote, but he's sure to command a price beyond his worth IMO. I'd rather take a RB with our 3rd round pick rather than pay for Turner in free agency.

Don't forget the San Diego O-Line and Lorenzo Neal, he woudln't have those luxuries with the Texans.

WesmanTexanfan
01-13-2008, 05:27 PM
Dude your crazy if you think Darius Walker & Taylor the future Franchise running backs your out of your mind!!!! I say draft two running backs this year we should be tired of free agent running backs and drafting them is the cheapest route.

hes making fun of me, because i think they both deserve a shot before anyone else and they do..... your jokin yourself if you think we'll draft 2 running backs, if we get one itll be second day most likely..... those guys can do it..... youll see

Kaiser Toro
01-13-2008, 05:28 PM
Don't forget the San Diego O-Line and Lorenzo Neal, he woudln't have those luxuries with the Texans.

He did not have Neal today.

WesmanTexanfan
01-13-2008, 05:29 PM
He did not have Neal today.

and gibbs' least amount of running yards per game(after a years total) is 115, thats 15 higher than weve done the last 2 years and that was his worst.... he'll turn our O line around....

Maddict5
01-13-2008, 05:54 PM
Don't forget the San Diego O-Line and Lorenzo Neal, he woudln't have those luxuries with the Texans.

its the way he runs that im a fan of- not his good stats.. he runs real tough and has speed to burn with it

WesmanTexanfan
01-13-2008, 06:40 PM
its the way he runs that im a fan of- not his good stats.. he runs real tough and has speed to burn with it

i want him not as a number 1 but maybe a 2 or 3 to come in and give some headaches....

TexanSam
01-13-2008, 06:57 PM
He's going to ask for a larger contract than he deserves. I don't want to throw big money at a guy who's been a 2nd string running back his entire career. I'd rather draft a guy and spend the money on an O-lineman, secondary, a defensive end to play opposite Mario, or a linebacker.

infantrycak
01-14-2008, 07:59 AM
I don't want to throw big money at a guy who's been a 2nd string running back his entire career.

Cuz if you can't unseat LT as the starter then you must suck.

Texanmike02
01-14-2008, 08:05 AM
Seriously. He ran with authority. We know he's got that extra gear. And HE DOESN'T DANCE.

Mike

Second Honeymoon
01-14-2008, 08:10 AM
he would want too much money and chargers would want too many picks. picks that we just cant afford right now.

he looked good but so did Sproles. Grandma Moses may even get 1000 yards behind that OL.

infantrycak
01-14-2008, 08:23 AM
he would want too much money and chargers would want too many picks. picks that we just cant afford right now.


He is an UFA--the Chargers can't trade him as they have no rights to him.

Goldensilence
01-14-2008, 08:59 AM
Might be a good signing...i'm not really sold though and would rather draft a RB myself. If not in the first I think Patrick from OU would fit perfectly with what we're wanting to do. Converted DE, Runs hard,and has that burst when he hits the second tier.

I just get visions of the Lamont Jordan signing a few years back with Turner.

TexanAddict
01-15-2008, 03:52 PM
The way I see it, the draft is deeper at the RB position than it has been in some time, while the DB depth in the draft is kinda lacking. Therefore, I would rather the Texans pursue a CB in free agency and pick up a RB via the draft. They wouldn't necessarily need to go RB in the first to get an upgrade at the position with as stacked as this draft class seems to be, which would give us flexibility in the 1st. I would feel better about having someone like Trufant and one of the rookie runners, instead of Turner and hoping to land a DB with the ability to start.

GP
01-16-2008, 12:25 AM
he would want too much money and chargers would want too many picks. picks that we just cant afford right now.

he looked good but so did Sproles. Grandma Moses may even get 1000 yards behind that OL.

I saw Turner run through BIG holes, and I was thinking "Man, this guy is a beast..."

Then, there were times when the Colts shut him down and I didn't see Turner "make something out of nothing," for lack of a better phrase.

The price for Turner would be too much, IMO. I think he benefits from what might be the best oline in the game right now (minus the Pats' line).

beerlover
01-16-2008, 01:12 AM
I think you guys are right about MT. bad timing to go free agency with all the good young RB's coming out in the draft deep into the 2nd & 3rd rds you can sign for much less. Best offer maybe to stay in San Diego & back-up LT.

thunderkyss
01-16-2008, 07:56 AM
Does anyone remember the circumstances that led him to being a 5th round pick?? Or at least why he wasn't picked up on the first day??

bah007
01-16-2008, 08:32 AM
Does anyone remember the circumstances that led him to being a 5th round pick?? Or at least why he wasn't picked up on the first day??

He went to Northern Illinois.

I'm pretty sure that is the only reason.

At the combine:

Ht: 5-10
Wt: 237
40: 4.49
Cone: 7.50
Vert: 31
Wonderlic: 35

toronto
01-16-2008, 10:12 AM
I think you guys are right about MT. bad timing to go free agency with all the good young RB's coming out in the draft deep into the 2nd & 3rd rds you can sign for much less. Best offer maybe to stay in San Diego & back-up LT.

He did that last year when he couldn't orchestrate a trade to Tennessee on draft day when the Chargers demanded a 1st and 3rd for him, which was ludicrous.

I said it on the Titans board...he picked a brutal year to be a UFA. There are at least 12, maybe more blue chip RBs in this draft already that will grade out as 1st, 2nd or 3rd round picks. Why would a team want to spend 15-20M on his signing bonus when they can draft someone highly touted for a tiny fraction of the $?

Specnatz
01-16-2008, 11:14 AM
I think you guys are right about MT. bad timing to go free agency with all the good young RB's coming out in the draft deep into the 2nd & 3rd rds you can sign for much less. Best offer maybe to stay in San Diego & back-up LT.

Yes and no on the bad timing, remember a couple years ago when Shaun Alexander was shopped around the most I heard that was even offered for him was a third or a second. Now looking at this years crop of prospects n the draft would it not be conceivable that the price might be lower than some here are projecting? Looking at teams that need a running back that are not the dredge of the league right now he might be able to be signed for a halfway decent price and still have space to get other players like a CB or Safety depending are which tier of talent could be had.

With injuries the Texans need starting .... RB, CB, FS, RG, and a nickle CB. I am hoping Demps is signed for the starting SS spot because he did a better than decent job unless you compare to what we have had then he did tremendously better.

Teams who need a RB:

NY Jets - Thomas Jones did ok but I am sure they will take one in the 4th.
Oakland - Fargas (FA) Rhodes did not do crap and Bush was IR all year.
Chicago - Benson has been a huge dissappointment
Detroit - New OC why would MT go here as a FA
Denver - They change rb more than most women change hairstyles
Philly - they need a bruising rb to compliment Westbroke
Tampa Bay - Maybe? But Graham did very well and Williams coming back.
Miami - Injuries could be a concern, they have holes why would MT go here.
Seattle - Possible Alenander is on the decline, is Morris the future?
Houston - We all know the issues here and we are a team on the rise.

So Adding the deep class he might not be as expensive as some might think because of the lack of bidding war.