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Joe Texan
09-29-2007, 02:21 PM
http://www.stubhub.com/houston-texans-tickets/?ticket_id=104297261

Joe Texan
09-29-2007, 02:22 PM
This just agrivates me to no end

TEXANSTAILGATER
09-29-2007, 02:35 PM
You would think the Texans would give a krap.....

Andrew6
09-29-2007, 03:25 PM
how did jacoby jones mother get those tickets?

Tedc
09-29-2007, 03:59 PM
It makes me sick.

YellerLotYeller
09-29-2007, 06:07 PM
http://www.stubhub.com/houston-texans-tickets/?ticket_id=104297325

texanskan
10-01-2007, 03:41 PM
how did jacoby jones mother get those tickets?

It would not upset me at all if Ms. Jones had those tickets every game

stingray
10-01-2007, 03:44 PM
how did jacoby jones mother get those tickets?

Am I missing something? When I clicked on the link the Tickets were not for sale anymore.

Yankee_In_TX
10-01-2007, 03:52 PM
Someone buy them so we know who it is, lol.

m.clizzle
10-01-2007, 03:55 PM
this reminds me of last year when the eagles released 1500 standing room only tickets to all the regular season games. RazorGator had them for sale before the eagles even released them.

let me tell you there was a lot of **** raised over it. (i was happy i got my 4 the day they went on sale).

stingray
10-01-2007, 03:56 PM
Someone buy them so we know who it is, lol.

What were they being sold for. And what's with the reference of Jacoby jones mother?

Tedc
10-01-2007, 04:10 PM
There are other games available. You can buy (2) front row Bull Pen Titans tickets for $340.00.

What are the odds that a Texan's fan will buy them at that price?

As much as we work to build the Homefield Advantage in the Bull Pen, it doesn't take much to have our work minimalized in instances like these.

You know Titan fan will be there in the front row with a VY jersey for the world to see.

Sickening!

Texan_Bill
10-01-2007, 04:29 PM
There are other games available. You can buy (2) front row Bull Pen Titans tickets for $340.00.

What are the odds that a Texan's fan will buy them at that price?

As much as we work to build the Homefield Advantage in the Bull Pen, it doesn't take much to have our work minimalized in instances like these.

You know Titan fan will be there in the front row with a VY jersey for the world to see.

Sickening!

Make sure phantom pharter eats plenty of beans.... Maybe they will leave by the end of the first quarter.

imatexan
10-01-2007, 06:55 PM
I really might think about buying yhem if I can save up. I always wanted to sit in the bullpen(especailly 1st row)!

Andrew6
10-02-2007, 01:32 AM
What were they being sold for. And what's with the reference of Jacoby jones mother?

reference is, she has front row tickets in the bullpen at the last game I attended. Not sure if she had them last game was home sick. I figured she may have went on stubhub or something and bought tickets to those seats or maybe they texans gave them to her. I'm not sure.??? :?

Tedc
10-02-2007, 07:14 AM
Let's not get off track here. I don't have a problem with Jacoby's mom or any other Texans fan sitting there.

The problem I have is that those seats have the potentiallity to be filled with an out of town fan because they don't have as many resources to get tickets. When they get to the Bull Pen, they won't like the display of the jerseys that we do and will be bothered by our traditions.

It doesn't give the impression of a rowdy Texans section with a fan from the other team right on the front row, especially on TV or in pictures.

Andrew6
10-02-2007, 01:03 PM
Let's not get off track here. I don't have a problem with Jacoby's mom or any other Texans fan sitting there.

The problem I have is that those seats have the potentiallity to be filled with an out of town fan because they don't have as many resources to get tickets. When they get to the Bull Pen, they won't like the display of the jerseys that we do and will be bothered by our traditions.

It doesn't give the impression of a rowdy Texans section with a fan from the other team right on the front row, especially on TV or in pictures.

I agree with you there. I will not be able to attend the Titans game so I gave the tickets to my boss. He told me his son is a huge Texans fan and is very excited about going.

ubecool454
10-02-2007, 01:04 PM
I personally think that you all are getting all upset over nothing. To me the Bullpen is very overated. I would rather have sideline seats than endzone seats anyday. As far as selling seats to a out of town fan...whats wrong with that. It was a Carolina Panthers fan that sold me some nice seats for the game. If a person can go on stubhub or ebay and make a nice buck off of some game tickets, who can say anything after all, its the american way. And again I will say it..."THE BULLPEN IS VERY OVERATED". Sitting in the bullpen makes you watch a lot of the big screen...why not just stay at home and watch tv.:fans:

ubecool454
10-02-2007, 01:10 PM
$335 for a front row bullpen ticket..lol...wouldn't give 125 for two endzone seats. I do hope the person selling them gets what they ask...its the american way. lol:whip:

Yankee_In_TX
10-02-2007, 01:27 PM
Negative rep coming your way. Nuff said.

YellerLotYeller
10-02-2007, 01:42 PM
Negative rep coming your way. Nuff said.

Lets put him in the Neg Rep hole.

hobie
10-02-2007, 02:39 PM
http://texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42870


Gentlemen, don't you remember this post from earlier today....Can't we all just get along?? :)

Tedc
10-02-2007, 02:59 PM
I personally think that you all are getting all upset over nothing. To me the Bullpen is very overated. I would rather have sideline seats than endzone seats anyday. As far as selling seats to a out of town fan...whats wrong with that. It was a Carolina Panthers fan that sold me some nice seats for the game. If a person can go on stubhub or ebay and make a nice buck off of some game tickets, who can say anything after all, its the american way. And again I will say it..."THE BULLPEN IS VERY OVERATED". Sitting in the bullpen makes you watch a lot of the big screen...why not just stay at home and watch tv.:fans:

Your problem is that you don't sit in the Bull Pen.

If it were so over-rated, why are so many wanting to get the tickets?

DiapHer
10-02-2007, 03:03 PM
Negative rep coming your way. Nuff said.


I had already knocked him down to 0.:shades:

hobie
10-02-2007, 03:24 PM
I had already knocked him down to 0.:shades:

Please remind me not to get on your bad side.... :texflag:

ubecool454
10-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Your problem is that you don't sit in the Bull Pen.

If it were so over-rated, why are so many wanting to get the tickets?

They don't know any better. Endzone seats..blaahh

ubecool454
10-02-2007, 05:38 PM
Your problem is that you don't sit in the Bull Pen.

If it were so over-rated, why are so many wanting to get the tickets?

I'm negative? Joe Texan is ripping someone for making an honest buck...lol

Specnatz
10-02-2007, 08:01 PM
I'm negative? Joe Texan is ripping someone for making an honest buck...lol

You are not a Texan fan honestly. Sorry Mr lets be a jerk and try and be rude.

ubecool454
10-02-2007, 10:45 PM
You are not a Texan fan honestly. Sorry Mr lets be a jerk and try and be rude.

I have 6 seats in Reliant..if thats not a fan I don't know what is.

Hardcore Texan
10-03-2007, 12:03 AM
I think endzone seats rock. I was on the opposite side of the Bullpen, in the corner (sec 139) for the colts game.....and they were great seats. I had two of my four season tickets to the Longhorns taken away from the construction and they were endzone seats and were awesome. There is nothing like it when your team is coming to score on your end of the field....it's awesome.

And on top of all that, the Bullpen rocks...it's full of some our most fiercly loyal fans.

Andrew6
10-03-2007, 12:51 AM
I think endzone seats rock. I was on the opposite side of the Bullpen, in the corner (sec 139) for the colts game.....and they were great seats. I had two of my four season tickets to the Longhorns taken away from the construction and they were endzone seats and were awesome. There is nothing like it when your team is coming to score on your end of the field....it's awesome.

And on top of all that, the Bullpen rocks...it's full of some our most fiercly loyal fans.

I think thats what people are trying to get across. It has nothing to do with money. They just don't want the illusion that fans other than Houston fans dominate this area. Its called the Bullpen for a reason.

SheTexan
10-03-2007, 07:55 AM
I have 6 seats in Reliant..if thats not a fan I don't know what is.

and you probably sell them to opposing teams fans to make an "honest buck." :mad:

ubecool454
10-03-2007, 08:37 AM
and you probably sell them to opposing teams fans to make an "honest buck." :mad:

nah, this is not the way I make a honest buck. My seats are used by nieces and nephews. If any of you loyal fans ever take a road trip I want to see how you get your seats. I just think that if opposing teams fans want to pay big bucks for tickets no matter where they are and they have a seller, that is their business not anyone elses. Just mind your own business.

Texans_Chick
10-03-2007, 09:53 AM
nah, this is not the way I make a honest buck. My seats are used by nieces and nephews. If any of you loyal fans ever take a road trip I want to see how you get your seats. I just think that if opposing teams fans want to pay big bucks for tickets no matter where they are and they have a seller, that is their business not anyone elses. Just mind your own business.

Opposing fans selling seats to Texans fans = good.
Texans fans selling seats to opposing fans = bad.
Texans fans selling seats to other Texans fans that couldn't otherwise go to the game = doubleplus good.


There's enough Texans fans willing to purchase seats from other Texans fans. I know, I buy extra tickets all the time on behalf of friends.

And, BTW, I've sat all over the stadium. Not really a bad seat in the house except for the press box unless you like vertigo. Each place in the stadium has its good points and not so good points.

The Bull Pen is a fun place to watch the game, as a Texan fan. The best energy in the stadium. I would think it would be unpleasant for an opposing fan.

SheTexan
10-03-2007, 09:55 AM
nah, this is not the way I make a honest buck. My seats are used by nieces and nephews. If any of you loyal fans ever take a road trip I want to see how you get your seats. I just think that if opposing teams fans want to pay big bucks for tickets no matter where they are and they have a seller, that is their business not anyone elses. Just mind your own business.


You're the one who made the negative remarks about the Bullpen, SOOOOO I feel sure YOU are the one who needs to mind his own business.

Members of the BP have NO control over who fellow members, corporations, the TEXANS, or ticket brokers sell their tickets too. We were approached by the TEXANS the very first year to try to make our FAN ZONE the best in the NFL. HARD TO DO when you don't have support from the FO. There will always be opposing teams fans in the Bullpen, I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is PSLs on the front row being owned by people who don't give a crap about the Bullpen. Those seats should be owned by DIEHARDS who would eat the cost of the ticket before they would sell to fans from an opposing team. I would do just about anything to be able to own those seats, and I can assure you NO ONE other than a Texan fan would STAND there.

Yankee_In_TX
10-03-2007, 09:57 AM
I think endzone seats rock. I was on the opposite side of the Bullpen, in the corner (sec 139) for the colts game.....and they were great seats. I had two of my four season tickets to the Longhorns taken away from the construction and they were endzone seats and were awesome. There is nothing like it when your team is coming to score on your end of the field....it's awesome.

And on top of all that, the Bullpen rocks...it's full of some our most fiercly loyal fans.

Nothing WORSE than the quarter ending when they're in the redzone :(

Texans_Chick
10-03-2007, 11:29 AM
Nothing WORSE than the quarter ending when they're in the redzone :(

True.

But I have to say it can get pain peelingly loud if the other team is trying to score in the Bull Pen endzone. I really hate when we are giving the other team the business over there, and then they go to the other side of the field and score.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:31 AM
You're the one who made the negative remarks about the Bullpen, SOOOOO I feel sure YOU are the one who needs to mind his own business.

Members of the BP have NO control over who fellow members, corporations, the TEXANS, or ticket brokers sell their tickets too. We were approached by the TEXANS the very first year to try to make our FAN ZONE the best in the NFL. HARD TO DO when you don't have support from the FO. There will always be opposing teams fans in the Bullpen, I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is PSLs on the front row being owned by people who don't give a crap about the Bullpen. Those seats should be owned by DIEHARDS who would eat the cost of the ticket before they would sell to fans from an opposing team. I would do just about anything to be able to own those seats, and I can assure you NO ONE other than a Texan fan would STAND there.
Again I say, it is none of your business who people want to sell their tickets too. Some people bought PSLs to make a buck off of, and some bought them because they are diehard fans. I think you guys are getting up in arms about nothing. Just go to the games and enjoy it and support the team.... don't worry about some fan from Tenn that paid big bucks to get closer to the field.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:33 AM
Joe Texan you see what you started..lol

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:36 AM
I had already knocked him down to 0.:shades:

get a life.

SheTexan
10-04-2007, 07:52 AM
Again I say, it is none of your business who people want to sell their tickets too. Some people bought PSLs to make a buck off of, and some bought them because they are diehard fans. I think you guys are getting up in arms about nothing. Just go to the games and enjoy it and support the team.... don't worry about some fan from Tenn that paid big bucks to get closer to the field.

You have NO idea what you are talking about. You are not a diehard fan who sits in the Bullpen so you do NOT know the passion of the fans in that area. I'm saying the Texans want US to help build a fanitical fan zone but we don't always have the support of the Texans. Last year during the Titan game I came very close to getting evicted from the stadium simply because I stood in the isle and refused to allow two Titan fans to go stand by the rail. If TEXAN fans are not allowed to stand there, then I'll be damned if a Titan fan will stand there. Well guess what??! The _____ "yellow shirt" made me move so the Titan fans could watch their team make a TD. I was NOT going to give up easily. After some unpleasant exchange of words SOMEONE pulled me back and told me to just leave it alone or I would go to Reliant jail. To this day I am sorry I gave up. It will NEVER happen again!! BTW: Those two Titan fans DID NOT have seats in the Bullpen. They just felt they could waltz into our fan zone and do as they please, and we let them get by with it because some "security" guy working for Reliant, is/was a VY jock sniffer.

If they want to pay big bucks to sit there, then so be it!! I just wish I had the opportunity to BUY those PSLs so I could make damn sure a Texan fan was sitting there!!!

hobie
10-04-2007, 08:16 AM
get a life.

I don't know ya and I have stayed out of this thread because I do not sit in the BP...but to tell someone who is a very big part of this board, a well respected member to get a life, I can't let that go by. If you do not know her, which by that comment you do not, you ought to be careful with what you say...

Specnatz
10-04-2007, 11:06 AM
get a life.


I don't know ya and I have stayed out of this thread because I do not sit in the BP...but to tell someone who is a very big part of this board, a well respected member to get a life, I can't let that go by. If you do not know her, which by that comment you do not, you ought to be careful with what you say...


hobie has already called you out on this little statement. It appears you are the one that needs to get a life. Just so you know you attack certain people on here and you are basically attacking the entire board.

Mr. 6 Seats, where exactly are your seats? You do not have a problem with someone buying PSLs jut to make a profit? Well I do have a problem with it. These are not individuals that do this, this is a company who has PSLs in most of the stadiums just to sell. There are plenty of fans who would like to have those seats to use personnaly. That is the whole damn problem.

I think it is kinda crappy in my opinion. Going to stop here before I say something I will regret.

StarStruck
10-04-2007, 11:22 AM
:popcorn: Interesting!

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 12:18 PM
You have NO idea what you are talking about. You are not a diehard fan who sits in the Bullpen so you do NOT know the passion of the fans in that area. I'm saying the Texans want US to help build a fanitical fan zone but we don't always have the support of the Texans. Last year during the Titan game I came very close to getting evicted from the stadium simply because I stood in the isle and refused to allow two Titan fans to go stand by the rail. If TEXAN fans are not allowed to stand there, then I'll be damned if a Titan fan will stand there. Well guess what??! The _____ "yellow shirt" made me move so the Titan fans could watch their team make a TD. I was NOT going to give up easily. After some unpleasant exchange of words SOMEONE pulled me back and told me to just leave it alone or I would go to Reliant jail. To this day I am sorry I gave up. It will NEVER happen again!! BTW: Those two Titan fans DID NOT have seats in the Bullpen. They just felt they could waltz into our fan zone and do as they please, and we let them get by with it because some "security" guy working for Reliant, is/was a VY jock sniffer.

If they want to pay big bucks to sit there, then so be it!! I just wish I had the opportunity to BUY those PSLs so I could make damn sure a Texan fan was sitting there!!!
U did have the opportunity to buy PSLs. And they should have thrown you ouf if you were confronting other fans whether they are Texans fans or whatever. Leave all the confrontations to the players on field, then watch them hug and congratulate each other on a good game afterwards. Again I don't think that the bullpen fans are the only ones in stadium with passion for our team. I don't come to the games to get into confrontations...remember, just because you pay for a seat doesn't mean you run anything.

Yankee_In_TX
10-04-2007, 12:21 PM
U did have the opportunity to buy PSLs. And they should have thrown you ouf if you were confronting other fans whether they are Texans fans or whatever. Leave all the confrontations to the players on field, then watch them hug and congratulate each other on a good game afterwards. Again I don't think that the bullpen fans are the only ones in stadium with passion for our team. I don't come to the games to get into confrontations...remember, just because you pay for a seat doesn't mean you run anything.

Dood - take this to heart. Quit while you're way behind. I have a feeling you're closs to actually making people angry.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 12:22 PM
I don't know ya and I have stayed out of this thread because I do not sit in the BP...but to tell someone who is a very big part of this board, a well respected member to get a life, I can't let that go by. If you do not know her, which by that comment you do not, you ought to be careful with what you say...

Hobie come on, I'm just giving my take on the subject and I don't know any of these people and care not to. I have met Texan Joe as he bawled like a baby after VY ran it in on us last year. I was disappointed too, but lets be real and remember this is still just a game that we attend for fun. And guess what? When the game was over Texan Joe was not in the bullpen seats.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 12:26 PM
hobie has already called you out on this little statement. It appears you are the one that needs to get a life. Just so you know you attack certain people on here and you are basically attacking the entire board.

Mr. 6 Seats, where exactly are your seats? You do not have a problem with someone buying PSLs jut to make a profit? Well I do have a problem with it. These are not individuals that do this, this is a company who has PSLs in most of the stadiums just to sell. There are plenty of fans who would like to have those seats to use personnaly. That is the whole damn problem.

I think it is kinda crappy in my opinion. Going to stop here before I say something I will regret.
This buying of seats for a profit is going on in every sport in the country. I don't think the Texans have a problem with it and thats all that matters. When we bought our PSLs they mentioned that it might not be a good idea to buy as an investment. Anyone who bought them as an investment must have bought them for a long term investment because they have a lot of catching up to do.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 12:28 PM
OK I am done with this thread. You guys go to the game this weekend and just watch the game and not the opposing fans sitting in your sections. Peace, are y'all going to help me build my rep power back up? I hope no one is upset over this if they are... tough, get over it. See ya at the game Sunday.

Specnatz
10-04-2007, 12:29 PM
This buying of seats for a profit is going on in every sport in the country. I don't think the Texans have a problem with it and thats all that matters. When we bought our PSLs they mentioned that it might not be a good idea to buy as an investment. Anyone who bought them as an investment must have bought them for a long term investment because they have a lot of catching up to do.

Seriously do you freakin read what people write or are you just trying to be a jerk?

I said a lot of the tickets now being sold were bought by a company and all they do is buy PSLs and resell them. So, yes long term investment. Please read what the hell people type.

Buffi2
10-04-2007, 12:33 PM
You have NO idea what you are talking about. You are not a diehard fan who sits in the Bullpen so you do NOT know the passion of the fans in that area.

If they want to pay big bucks to sit there, then so be it!! I just wish I had the opportunity to BUY those PSLs so I could make damn sure a Texan fan was sitting there!!!

You go Girl! Folks need to learn quickly not to p*ss off us old folks.:whip: We may forget things a bit faster - but we get even first!:cowboy1:

Mr. ubecool454 - you should change your name to iberude41. Just a thought.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 12:40 PM
Seriously do you freakin read what people write or are you just trying to be a jerk?

I said a lot of the tickets now being sold were bought by a company and all they do is buy PSLs and resell them. So, yes long term investment. Please read what the hell people type.

Spec I am not trying to be a jerk and did read what you typed. If those companies are doing what you say it in no way affects me so I have no problem with it because I have mine. Just understand that a opposing fan in your section has no effect on those guys on the field.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 12:41 PM
You go Girl! Folks need to learn quickly not to p*ss off us old folks.:whip: We may forget things a bit faster - but we get even first!:cowboy1:

Mr. ubecool454 - you should change your name to iberude41. Just a thought.

why should I change my name? If I can piss u off with words on a screen you probably are living a miserable life.

hollywood_texan
10-04-2007, 01:22 PM
I just don't understand why you guys get so upset over opposing fans sitting in the Bull Pen.

I have a hunch they named that section the Bull Pen and market it a certain way because how do you sell seats that are going to bake in the sun during the first part of the season. Now, we don't even have that issue.

There is a secondary market for tickets, it happens for all entertainment events. This isn't unique to Reliant Stadium or the Bull Pen for that matter. How are you going to stop that? You aren't!!!! This is AMERICA!!!!

It's a FREE COUNTRY, if someone can obtain a ticket lawfully, they are allowed to sit in the seat regardless as long as they follow the rules perscribed by the stadium no matter who you are or what team you root for. End of story!

The best way to alleviate this problem, is to talk to the people selling tickets and try to figure out a way to compensate them for games they aren't making and getting those tickets to Texans fans for reasonable value.

You guys are taking the approach of beating people over the head instead of really trying to solve the problem. Your just flapping your gums in the wind. Try and find some solution where people are compensated.

For me personally, I do sell tickets to games I can't make. I have tried to sell tickets posting on this board to Texans fan, but there is a fair amount of grief that I recieved from it and some want some sweetheart deals. Other tickets, I give away to family and friends, and some of them root for the opposing team!

Just so you know, in my experience, opposing fans pay the most money for tickets! Go figure! Also, I gave all tickets away for the first 4 years but grew tired of it for various reasons I won't get into.

Not all season ticket holders are going to live Houston. Furthermore, not every season ticket holder is going to be able to go to every game. That is why there is a secondary market. It happens. Get over it!

I think you guys need to relax. It's a FREE COUNTRY and if you can pay for it, it's yours!

One other thing, just because someone doesn't agree with you on this topic, doesn't make them any less of a Texan fan than you! So get that out of your head too.

Hit me with bad rep all you want. I'll know who you are and wear it like a badge of courage!

Specnatz
10-04-2007, 01:23 PM
Spec I am not trying to be a jerk and did read what you typed. If those companies are doing what you say it in no way affects me so I have no problem with it because I have mine. Just understand that a opposing fan in your section has no effect on those guys on the field.

This is the crap people get upset over


http://stores.ebay.com/I-AM-A-HOUSTON-TEXAN_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZQ2d1QQfsubZ0QQftidZ2QQpZ2QQtZ km

Tell me this is just an individual that has all these seats and stuff. It is a slimy way of doing things. His PSLs should be stripped.

Hollywood your missing the point. It is not about selling a ticket and or someone buying them. They tickets being sold are always for sale. An entity owns them and fans do not have a chance to buy those PSL. At least that is my take on it.

I think it sucks a company buys PSLs just for the sole pupose of selling seats and a highly jacked up price. Individual tickets fine, but PSLs should not be used this way.

Yankee_In_TX
10-04-2007, 01:37 PM
The best way to alleviate this problem, is to talk to the people selling tickets and try to figure out a way to compensate them for games they aren't making and getting those tickets to Texans fans for reasonable value.


It's not Joe Texan (sorry, bad choice of a generic name) selling games he can't make (PLEASE REREAD THE THREAD). We are complaining about TICKET BROKERS, a partial owner of the Texans, and completely anonymous people.

So yes, we have tried to do something. Numerous people have called and/or written letters to the Texans.

So until something changes, just as the brokers have a "right" to scalp the seats, we have a right to complain.

And further, you'd be ticked too if there were front row seats owned by a suite holder who flippantly passes them out, sending opposing fans to your section who only come down for one quarter a game. There are about 20 people in our section (that know about the situation) that would kill for those seats.

Yankee_In_TX
10-04-2007, 01:45 PM
Kinda' like (I've seen it happen)...

Someone waits in line all day with his son/daughter for an autograph. They get cut off, and the child goes home disappointed. But the 5 people in front of him (fully equiped with roller suitcases) got the autograph that's going straight on sale on Ebay.

Nothing you can do about it, but there's more deserving people - just like I'd rather fans have the PSL's than these scalpers/scalping companies.

hollywood_texan
10-04-2007, 01:55 PM
Hollywood your missing the point. It is not about selling a ticket and or someone buying them. They tickets being sold are always for sale. An entity owns them and fans do not have a chance to buy those PSL. At least that is my take on it.

I really don't see the difference.

Regardless of some corporate entity selling tickets, by your own omission, tickets are being sold in the secondary market by various types of people, which means opposing fans can be in the Bull Pen at any point in time.

Maybe what you are trying to say is, opposing fans are fine in the Bull Pen or surrounding areas as long as they didn't buy it from a particular ticket broker? How are you are every going to know? Why would you even make the destinction? Particularly, when you are going to have opposing fans already in the Bull Pen due to other avenues?

You guys seem to be going around in circles.

Not trying to start a flame war, but there are some things in life you just let go. It isn't worth it and you would be showing inconsistencies.

For me, it does kind of bother me, but I go to road games and I don't want people too hostile with me (I draw the line at spitting and getting physical in any form). If you look at the grand scheme of things, it really isn't that big of a deal. We are all just fans of the NFL, let's just drink beer, get rowdy, and have some fun without anyone getting hurt. It's kind of interesting to meet people from other teams anyway and get a different perspective.

hollywood_texan
10-04-2007, 02:01 PM
It's not Joe Texan (sorry, bad choice of a generic name) selling games he can't make (PLEASE REREAD THE THREAD). We are complaining about TICKET BROKERS, a partial owner of the Texans, and completely anonymous people.

Yankee, I understand what you are saying, but I really don't understand why you can just single one party out when it's going to be happening any way regardless of the situation. It seems you are selectively applying your grievance to one person. It sounds personal...

Maybe you guys, there seem to be enough of you that are upset about it, can get some money together and buy these PSLs from this guy. Maybe with enough people you guys can buy them and then turn them over to some reliable Texan fans with minimal cost.

powerfuldragon
10-04-2007, 02:08 PM
Honestly, i'd take tickets between the fourties over bullpen tix any day. JMO

hollywood_texan
10-04-2007, 02:14 PM
Honestly, i'd take tickets between the fourties over bullpen tix any day. JMO

That's what my dad tells me when I try and give him my tickets for a game.

He's a funny guy, it's not what some of you are thinking...

Point is, relax...

SheTexan
10-04-2007, 02:41 PM
Point is, relax...


Why don't you guys visit the Bullpen before you become so critical of it. Most of the diehards are RELAXED, have a great time, are very respectful to ALL fans, both opposing teams and of our own obnoxious fans who tallgate a little to much before the game. Personally, I try to be very respectful to opposing teams fans, and sometimes have a lot of fun with them. BUT, I will not sit by and allow them to take over MY house!! It's my house, and I will protect it!!:fans: :fans: :fans: :fans:

BOTTOM LINE!!! Some of us want those two front row seats very bad!! It's just a little stab in my old TEXAN heart to see someone other than a TEXAN fan SITTING down there. Let them sit anywhere else in the stadium, except the front row of the Bullpen. JMO!!! Doesn't seem like anyone else cares anyway.

Specnatz
10-04-2007, 02:52 PM
Why don't you guys visit the Bullpen before you become so critical of it. Most of the diehards are RELAXED, have a great time, are very respectful to ALL fans, both opposing teams and of our own obnoxious fans who tallgate a little to much before the game. Personally, I try to be very respectful to opposing teams fans, and sometimes have a lot of fun with them. BUT, I will not sit by and allow them to take over MY house!! It's my house, and I will protect it!!:fans: :fans: :fans: :fans:

BOTTOM LINE!!! Some of us want those two front row seats very bad!! It's just a little stab in my old TEXAN heart to see someone other than a TEXAN fan SITTING down there. Let them sit anywhere else in the stadium, except the front row of the Bullpen. JMO!!! Doesn't seem like anyone else cares anyway.

I care, even though my broke ass can't afford season tickets.

Look I understand scalping goes on and it is hard to stop but when all a company is doing is grabbing up PSLs just so they can sell the tickets I think it is total bull, because like GranMa said there are fans who would love those seats and plop their butt in them every game.

Yankee_In_TX
10-04-2007, 03:12 PM
I hope someone on here buys these tickets!

hollywood_texan
10-04-2007, 03:14 PM
Why don't you guys visit the Bullpen before you become so critical of it. Most of the diehards are RELAXED, have a great time, are very respectful to ALL fans, both opposing teams and of our own obnoxious fans who tallgate a little to much before the game. Personally, I try to be very respectful to opposing teams fans, and sometimes have a lot of fun with them. BUT, I will not sit by and allow them to take over MY house!! It's my house, and I will protect it!!:fans: :fans: :fans: :fans:

BOTTOM LINE!!! Some of us want those two front row seats very bad!! It's just a little stab in my old TEXAN heart to see someone other than a TEXAN fan SITTING down there. Let them sit anywhere else in the stadium, except the front row of the Bullpen. JMO!!! Doesn't seem like anyone else cares anyway.

I have season tickets in Section 118, very close to that dad and son that dress up in those blue overalls with their faces painted. Across the aisle from the big guy that dresses up like Elvis. Point is, I know the Bull Pen. Let me tell you, you guys are the only ones that really care about that section in terms of it being the Bull Pen. To every one else, it's just some marketing name. Similar to the gate you go into that is the called the Coca-Cola gate. It's a point of reference and that's it.

People don't watch the game on TV and see opposing fans in the Bull Pen and laugh at the Houston Texans because there are opposing fans. They just don't care because they don't even know.

Just so you know, I am at Reliant several times a year. I will be at the Miami game this weekend and if it stays a noon game for the Saints, I will be there too. There will be Saints fabs sitting in my seats for that game because I have several friends that are Saints fans.

In addition, I am going to the Chargers and Raider games. Chargers game, Texans bench side 6 rows up on the 20. Oakland, 2 rows up on the 40. I am going to support the Texans with full gear. Be mindful, your fellow Texans go to road games, and how else do we get those tickets. It works both ways!

Protect you house? What is that? That is done on the field by the players. You are just spectator.

It is completely inappropriate for you to block the aisle so someone can't walk by to get to their seat. I don't care who they are or what they look like. They have just as much of a right to their seat as yours with a valid ticket and they follow the rules

Generally, people probably do care about only Texans fans sitting front row, but at different degrees. You want Texans in those seats? Buy those seats. Get something togeteher with people on this board and get it done.

How many seats are we talking about and how do we get in touch with this guy? Let's see what we are up against and get this thing done.

I have said my peace. You guys want to continue with this thread and others like it, that's your right and the point of this MB.

You wanna solve the problem? You need to buy those seats from that guy. It's really that simple.

You can't get everything in life and some things you have to work really hard to get it. You just gotta decide is it worth it.

Good luck!

Yankee_In_TX
10-04-2007, 03:20 PM
YOU'RE missing the point. This person is and will remain completely anonymous (that's how Stubhub works).

The suite holder is not selling.

Other ticket brokers on Ebay have refused to sell PSL's (anyone remmeber Phattuna?)

It's not a matter of putting money where the mouth is.

The TWO times I have seen 116 front half of the Bullpen PSL's I bought them. I think others on here also jump when they see 116 PSL's on Ebay.

Most of us who tailgate together also sit together. And we'd love to get more of our group sitting together. But instead of our good friends next to us, we can random people who give 2 shoots about football.

SheTexan
10-04-2007, 04:43 PM
It is completely inappropriate for you to block the aisle so someone can't walk by to get to their seat. I don't care who they are or what they look like. They have just as much of a right to their seat as yours with a valid ticket and they follow the rules

Obviously you read only what you wanted to out of my post. I have NEVER blocked the isle from someone who has seats in the Bullpen, opposing team or not. Those dudes did NOT have seats in the Bullpen, I ask them. I POLITELY told them to go back to their seats that fans were not allowed to stand by the rail. They tried to push me away and I didn't budge, until the YELLOW shirt made me. Sorry if you disagree!! If anyone gets to stand by the rail and yell for their team it's gonna be a TEXAN fan!!! It's our house and our boys need our support! When we're in our end zone, whether on offense or defense, they should be able to look into faces of TEXAN fans, esp those on the front row, which is what we have been discussing from the beginning. JMO!!

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:07 PM
I just don't understand why you guys get so upset over opposing fans sitting in the Bull Pen.

I have a hunch they named that section the Bull Pen and market it a certain way because how do you sell seats that are going to bake in the sun during the first part of the season. Now, we don't even have that issue.

There is a secondary market for tickets, it happens for all entertainment events. This isn't unique to Reliant Stadium or the Bull Pen for that matter. How are you going to stop that? You aren't!!!! This is AMERICA!!!!

It's a FREE COUNTRY, if someone can obtain a ticket lawfully, they are allowed to sit in the seat regardless as long as they follow the rules perscribed by the stadium no matter who you are or what team you root for. End of story!
This was very well said by Mr Hollywood Texan.
The best way to alleviate this problem, is to talk to the people selling tickets and try to figure out a way to compensate them for games they aren't making and getting those tickets to Texans fans for reasonable value.

You guys are taking the approach of beating people over the head instead of really trying to solve the problem. Your just flapping your gums in the wind. Try and find some solution where people are compensated.

For me personally, I do sell tickets to games I can't make. I have tried to sell tickets posting on this board to Texans fan, but there is a fair amount of grief that I recieved from it and some want some sweetheart deals. Other tickets, I give away to family and friends, and some of them root for the opposing team!

Just so you know, in my experience, opposing fans pay the most money for tickets! Go figure! Also, I gave all tickets away for the first 4 years but grew tired of it for various reasons I won't get into.

Not all season ticket holders are going to live Houston. Furthermore, not every season ticket holder is going to be able to go to every game. That is why there is a secondary market. It happens. Get over it!

I think you guys need to relax. It's a FREE COUNTRY and if you can pay for it, it's yours!

One other thing, just because someone doesn't agree with you on this topic, doesn't make them any less of a Texan fan than you! So get that out of your head too.

Hit me with bad rep all you want. I'll know who you are and wear it like a badge of courage!

This was very well said by Mr. Hollywood Texan.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:10 PM
This is the crap people get upset over


http://stores.ebay.com/I-AM-A-HOUSTON-TEXAN_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZQ2d1QQfsubZ0QQftidZ2QQpZ2QQtZ km

Tell me this is just an individual that has all these seats and stuff. It is a slimy way of doing things. His PSLs should be stripped.

Hollywood your missing the point. It is not about selling a ticket and or someone buying them. They tickets being sold are always for sale. An entity owns them and fans do not have a chance to buy those PSL. At least that is my take on it.

I think it sucks a company buys PSLs just for the sole pupose of selling seats and a highly jacked up price. Individual tickets fine, but PSLs should not be used this way.
specs I hear what you are saying but I still fail to see why any of that is your business.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:12 PM
YOU'RE missing the point. This person is and will remain completely anonymous (that's how Stubhub works).

The suite holder is not selling.

Other ticket brokers on Ebay have refused to sell PSL's (anyone remmeber Phattuna?)

It's not a matter of putting money where the mouth is.

The TWO times I have seen 116 front half of the Bullpen PSL's I bought them. I think others on here also jump when they see 116 PSL's on Ebay.

Most of us who tailgate together also sit together. And we'd love to get more of our group sitting together. But instead of our good friends next to us, we can random people who give 2 shoots about football.

why not just go and enjoy the game and not worry about who is sitting next to you?

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:16 PM
It's not Joe Texan (sorry, bad choice of a generic name) selling games he can't make (PLEASE REREAD THE THREAD). We are complaining about TICKET BROKERS, a partial owner of the Texans, and completely anonymous people.

So yes, we have tried to do something. Numerous people have called and/or written letters to the Texans.

So until something changes, just as the brokers have a "right" to scalp the seats, we have a right to complain.

And further, you'd be ticked too if there were front row seats owned by a suite holder who flippantly passes them out, sending opposing fans to your section who only come down for one quarter a game. There are about 20 people in our section (that know about the situation) that would kill for those seats.

Yankee some of my friends that don't make the games say they have the best seat. It's in their house. I might be willing to take those PSLs off your hands so you don't have to sit by those evil visiting fans. the friends that would kill for those seats should just make the owner of those seats a offer they can't refuse.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:17 PM
Kinda' like (I've seen it happen)...

Someone waits in line all day with his son/daughter for an autograph. They get cut off, and the child goes home disappointed. But the 5 people in front of him (fully equiped with roller suitcases) got the autograph that's going straight on sale on Ebay.

Nothing you can do about it, but there's more deserving people - just like I'd rather fans have the PSL's than these scalpers/scalping companies.

YANKEE..Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 05:22 PM
Why don't you guys visit the Bullpen before you become so critical of it. Most of the diehards are RELAXED, have a great time, are very respectful to ALL fans, both opposing teams and of our own obnoxious fans who tallgate a little to much before the game. Personally, I try to be very respectful to opposing teams fans, and sometimes have a lot of fun with them. BUT, I will not sit by and allow them to take over MY house!! It's my house, and I will protect it!!:fans: :fans: :fans: :fans:

BOTTOM LINE!!! Some of us want those two front row seats very bad!! It's just a little stab in my old TEXAN heart to see someone other than a TEXAN fan SITTING down there. Let them sit anywhere else in the stadium, except the front row of the Bullpen. JMO!!! Doesn't seem like anyone else cares anyway.

now the truth comes out, you are jealous and want those front seats....make them a offer they can't refuse.

hollywood_texan
10-04-2007, 05:23 PM
Obviously you read only what you wanted to out of my post. I have NEVER blocked the isle from someone who has seats in the Bullpen, opposing team or not. Those dudes did NOT have seats in the Bullpen, I ask them. I POLITELY told them to go back to their seats that fans were not allowed to stand by the rail. They tried to push me away and I didn't budge, until the YELLOW shirt made me. Sorry if you disagree!! If anyone gets to stand by the rail and yell for their team it's gonna be a TEXAN fan!!! It's our house and our boys need our support! When we're in our end zone, whether on offense or defense, they should be able to look into faces of TEXAN fans, esp those on the front row, which is what we have been discussing from the beginning. JMO!!

Fair enough, you should let somebody know they are out of line at Reliant. If they don't shape up or ship out, then you let the usher do his job. You are still completely out of line in the situation you described above. Furthermore, you are not physically capable to handle the situation anyway. Your probably just making worse for the usher to do his job.

Trust me, my seats are on the aisle and very close to the railing. There are always people going up to the railing and watching the game and blocking my view. Then I can't see crap. I could care less who they are rooting for or how old they are. If I can't see what is going on, I tell them they better buzz off during the game. If they don't move on, I get an usher.

As for the front row thing, my advice is to get over it.

disaacks3
10-04-2007, 05:30 PM
why not just go and enjoy the game and not worry about who is sitting next to you?
Perhaps because it directly affects their enjoyment of the game? I'm about 9 rows above most of the people I tailgate with..because there's several rows of "Ticketmaster" folks between us.

I fully understand the capitalism side of this, but as a fan it DOES get irritating.

Specnatz
10-04-2007, 05:43 PM
specs I hear what you are saying but I still fail to see why any of that is your business.

Because I would love to goto the game and sit near some of those I call friends. I am not rich nor do I have the money for PSLs, so I want tickets I would rather be able to go thru Texans website and buy them for at cost versus some piece of crap sticking it to me in everyway possible.

Corporate entities should not be allowd to buy a bunch of PSLs just to sell them and stick it to those who do not have a bunch of F'n money.

That is why it is my F'n business.

SheTexan
10-04-2007, 05:44 PM
Fair enough, you should let somebody know they are out of line at Reliant. If they don't shape up or ship out, then you let the usher do his job. You are still completely out of line in the situation you described above. Furthermore, you are not physically capable to handle the situation anyway. Your probably just making worse for the usher to do his job.

Trust me, my seats are on the aisle and very close to the railing. There are always people going up to the railing and watching the game and blocking my view. Then I can't see crap. I could care less who they are rooting for or how old they are. If I can't see what is going on, I tell them they better buzz off during the game. If they don't move on, I get an usher.

As for the front row thing, my advice is to get over it.

Trust me, I had NO intention of getting into a PHYSICAL confortation with a couple big ass bucks from the hills of Tenn!! Not that stupid. The usher was a Titan fan, not much help there, obviously. What you missed, was that I backed off, stepped aside, became the sweet little old grandma that everyone thinks I am, and left it alone. I handled it after the game was over, the way it should be handled, I reported it to everyone I have listed on my Texans e-mail list!!:) We'll see what happen's in about 3 weeks when your fav QB comes to town!!:fans:

Tedc
10-04-2007, 06:06 PM
why not just go and enjoy the game and not worry about who is sitting next to you?

I thought you were done here?

Don't you have a life?

NitroGSXR
10-04-2007, 06:08 PM
Trust me, I had NO intention of getting into a PHYSICAL confortation with a couple big ass bucks from the hills of Tenn!! Not that stupid. The usher was a Titan fan, not much help there, obviously. What you missed, was that I backed off, stepped aside, became the sweet little old grandma that everyone thinks I am, and left it alone. I handled it after the game was over, the way it should be handled, I reported it to everyone I have listed on my Texans e-mail list!!:) We'll see what happen's in about 3 weeks when your fav QB comes to town!!:fans:

It really sounded like you were about to and that you wished you hadn't backed off.

Just saying...

Texan_Bill
10-04-2007, 06:28 PM
BOTTOM LINE!!! Some of us want those two front row seats very bad!! It's just a little stab in my old TEXAN heart to see someone other than a TEXAN fan SITTING down there.

Yes!! Someone like me would love those seats. I would gladly give up my two seats in 120..

Tedc
10-04-2007, 06:28 PM
Honestly, i'd take tickets between the fourties over bullpen tix any day. JMO

I have been forced to sit between the forties before and I HATED it!:gun:

Too many fans reading newspapers, talking on cell phones and doing anything BUT watching the game until a score or a big play happens. They were always asking me "what happened?".

If your section is quiet enough for you to talk on a cell phone, it ain't for me.

Texan_Bill
10-04-2007, 06:30 PM
The usher was a Titan fan, not much help there, obviously.

That ain't right... He should be fired!!!


PS I know a couple of HPD officers that work the games. They ARE Texans fans... Lemme know next time.

SheTexan
10-04-2007, 06:32 PM
It really sounded like you were about to and that you wished you hadn't backed off.

Just saying...

You are correct. I wish I hadn't backed off. In hind sight, I wish I had notified the security officer on the field. I was stunned a Reliant employee was allowing Titan fans to stand by the rail, but not Texan fans. The verbal exchange I had was with the YELLOW shirt. He told me to go back to my seat, which I did, and he motioned for the Titan fans to "come on down." Now, if I was "out of line" and should not have gotten pis*ed over that, then maybe I need to move my seats to the dark side.

Texans_Chick
10-04-2007, 06:34 PM
Honestly, i'd take tickets between the fourties over bullpen tix any day. JMO

Yes and no.

They are lovely seats. A nice place to watch the game. But usually the same fans don't sit in the same seats week after week because so many of them are corporate seats or ticket broker seats.

The Bullpen is different because most of the people show up to every game and you get to know them. Also the energy is one of the best places in the stadium. I got a friend of mine's mom some tickets there.

You can get a nice point of view from your couch, but nothing replaces being at a game. And there can be nice energy throughout the stadium, but it is really sweet in the endzones because that is where real people can buy tickets.

And when the PSLs were first sold, some people who are friends of the owners had dibs before regular folks could buy tickets. And when the team did poorly, some fans sold their PSLs to ticket brokers, so the brokered tickets on the field level have increased.

It is not unreasonable that if the Texans want to promote the homefield advantage that they do their part to see that it can actually be a homefield advantage.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 06:35 PM
That ain't right... He should be fired!!!


PS I know a couple of HPD officers that work the games. They ARE Texans fans... Lemme know next time.

Now we are going to have opposing fans arrested if they buy those seats? :specnatz:

hollywood_texan
10-04-2007, 06:35 PM
We'll see what happen's in about 3 weeks when your fav QB comes to town!!:fans:

What is the purpose of that comment?

I could go on and on about your bangin' hair two glove wearing sack of potatoes QB.

At least my QB comes through in the clutch twice when I go to the Rose Bowl. Gives me something proud about when walking out of the Rose Bowl that are games of a lifetime.

Your QB, dumps turds in the pocket but has great hair.

There, you happy now?

VY didn't make the choice, the Texans did. I don't understand why people like you have such distate for VY when it wasn't his decision. VY is a Houston Texan, no matter you like it or not. I can understand not rooting for him, but the way you guys handle this situation is just comical. It wasn't VY's choice.

It's even funnier to think that the Tennessee fans that you are so upset with were probably born and raised in Houston, Texas! You call them big bucks from Tennessee, but it probably couldn't be further from the truth. To make it even funnier, your bangin' hair two glove wearing sack of potatoes QB that no longer plays for the Texans but got $35 million for nothing, is the reason why the Texans never considered VY.

Get a grip! Just leave the VY thing alone. We finally have what appears to be a very good QB and let's leave it at that.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 06:36 PM
You are correct. I wish I hadn't backed off. In hind sight, I wish I had notified the security officer on the field. I was stunned a Reliant employee was allowing Titan fans to stand by the rail, but not Texan fans. The verbal exchange I had was with the YELLOW shirt. He told me to go back to my seat, which I did, and he motioned for the Titan fans to "come on down." Now, if I was "out of line" and should not have gotten pis*ed over that, then maybe I need to move my seats to the dark side.

I think you are not telling the truth.

Tedc
10-04-2007, 06:44 PM
I think you are not telling the truth.

She has a quite a few witnesses. Not that she needs them. Most people here know that GMA won't lie.

I thought you said you were done here.

Texan_Bill
10-04-2007, 06:47 PM
Now we are going to have opposing fans arrested if they buy those seats? :specnatz:

The comment was referring to opposing fans acting a fool...

Reading comprehension is power...

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 06:47 PM
She has a quite a few witnesses. Not that she needs them. Most people here know that GMA won't lie.

I thought you said you were done here.

TEDC take it from me...go tailgate, enjoy the game, and stop worrying about this silly issue. She just keeps adding on, first it was the scalping tickets, now people are blocking her view....I have aisle seats second row..people come to take pics of the cheerleaders there all the time..we just ask them to bend down if action is taking place. stop whining and go enjoy the game.

Tedc
10-04-2007, 06:49 PM
OK I am done with this thread. You guys go to the game this weekend and just watch the game and not the opposing fans sitting in your sections. Peace, are y'all going to help me build my rep power back up? I hope no one is upset over this if they are... tough, get over it. See ya at the game Sunday.

^^^

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 06:52 PM
^^^

I Changed my mind.

Andrew6
10-04-2007, 07:56 PM
:mario2: :respect: :marionaner:

I am so proud to be part of the bullpen, didnt think this many folks would stand up for what they believe in


GO TEXANS! ! ! !

Hardcore Texan
10-04-2007, 08:28 PM
So this discussion has got me thinking (dangerous, I know) and while I understand how PSL's work, I still don't get it 100%

Do you have to have PSL's to buy season tickets? I know some seats don't require PSL's, but if someone else's owns the PSL's but doesn't pay for season tickets, what happens to those seats/tickets?

In other words if I want to buy season tickets for some good seats, do I have to go out and buy the PSL's too?

I am seriously considering getting on the waiting list for next year (which I don't know how it works either) if I can scratch together the dough, not sure yet. I wouldn't be able to attend every home game though, probably 4 of them, since I have small children and my wife works some weekends.

Sorry, I am not trying to hi-jack this thread. Can anyone explain it to me? I am just trying to understand my options.

Yankee_In_TX
10-04-2007, 08:31 PM
Let's say you buy tickets every year from Bob, a PSL owner. Next year, bob doesn't pay his ticket prices. Those seats are GONE.

PSL's and non-PSL seats work the same, you have to buy them EVERY year or you lose them.

Not EVERY seat in Reliant is a PSL seat. Some seats are just "season ticket" seats, but you're give the right to rebuy the same seats every year.

Hope that makes some sense.

GlassHalfFull
10-04-2007, 08:39 PM
I think you are not telling the truth.

Wow, I have read this thread with morbid fascination. I have season tickets in 519, so am really not involved. But why in the world would you insult a loved and respected member of this forum is such a way. I am relatively new to the forum and have tried to read the threads and post with thought and respect. Other than just trying to cause problems, I see no point in your posts.:pirate:

Hardcore Texan
10-04-2007, 08:40 PM
Let's say you buy tickets every year from Bob, a PSL owner. Next year, bob doesn't pay his ticket prices. Those seats are GONE.

PSL's and non-PSL seats work the same, you have to buy them EVERY year or you lose them.

Not EVERY seat in Reliant is a PSL seat. Some seats are just "season ticket" seats, but you're give the right to rebuy the same seats every year.

Hope that makes some sense.

Thanks Yankee! So, if I am understanding right, if Bob doesn't purchase the season tix this year, he still owns the PSL, and if decides to buy them again the following year he can, right? Since you own the PSL for life is that how it would work? If not, I don't understand what the benefit of owning the PSL is other than being guranteed good seats as long as you continue to buy season tix.

If I go buy some PSL's on ebay, I will be guranteed those seats next year as long as I purchase the tickets? If I don't, than the some one else guy buy them as "non-psl" season tickets even though they are in a PSL section?

Andrew6
10-04-2007, 09:00 PM
Thanks Yankee! So, if I am understanding right, if Bob doesn't purchase the season tix this year, he still owns the PSL, and if decides to buy them again the following year he can, right? Since you own the PSL for life is that how it would work? If not, I don't understand what the benefit of owning the PSL is other than being guranteed good seats as long as you continue to buy season tix.

If I go buy some PSL's on ebay, I will be guranteed those seats next year as long as I purchase the tickets? If I don't, than the some one else guy buy them as "non-psl" season tickets even though they are in a PSL section?

As a PSL owner you do have to buy the tickets every year or you lose your seat basicly and the texans can resell your PSLs. If you're going to buy PSL's try to stay away from ebay. I'd wait and see if anyone on here is willing to sell.

Hardcore Texan
10-04-2007, 09:05 PM
As a PSL owner you do have to buy the tickets every year or you lose your seat basicly and the texans can resell your PSLs. If you're going to buy PSL's try to stay away from ebay. I'd wait and see if anyone on here is willing to sell.

Okay, thanks. Is there a map of which sections are PSL's and what sections are non-psl's season tickets?

Andrew6
10-04-2007, 09:08 PM
Okay, thanks. Is there a map of which sections are PSL's and what sections are non-psl's season tickets?

not sure I figure that the 100s, 300s, and some of the 500s and 600s are psl? not sure though most 500 and 600 maybe just season ticket holders and not psl

Specnatz
10-04-2007, 09:12 PM
Wow, I have read this thread with morbid fascination. I have season tickets in 519, so am really not involved. But why in the world would you insult a loved and respected member of this forum is such a way. I am relatively new to the forum and have tried to read the threads and post with thought and respect. Other than just trying to cause problems, I see no point in your posts.:pirate:

You causing problems? I am not sure if that is even possible. you seem way to low key for that. Unlike me, where is I am a bit more high strung.


:fans:

NitroGSXR
10-04-2007, 09:19 PM
Okay, thanks. Is there a map of which sections are PSL's and what sections are non-psl's season tickets?

Everything on the lower levels are PSLs and everything up top are not.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 09:20 PM
Okay, thanks. Is there a map of which sections are PSL's and what sections are non-psl's season tickets?

hardcore everything in the stadium are PSLs except for he 700 section and in the 600 section..the only psl seats in the 600 sections are between the 30 yd lines.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 09:21 PM
Everything on the lower levels are PSLs and everything up top are not.

not true..psl seats in the 600 section are the seats between the 30 yd lines.

Joe Texan
10-04-2007, 09:22 PM
I'm negative? Joe Texan is ripping someone for making an honest buck...lol

Hobie come on, I'm just giving my take on the subject and I don't know any of these people and care not to. I have met Texan Joe as he bawled like a baby after VY ran it in on us last year. I was disappointed too, but lets be real and remember this is still just a game that we attend for fun. And guess what? When the game was over Texan Joe was not in the bullpen seats.

You obviously do not understand the post, I am outraged that Front Row Tickets was able to sell front row bull pen tickets. I am opposed to all ticket scalping and believe it should be a crime and punishable by jail. It is the reason for inflated ticket prices, Team see's fans buying $250 tickets, team decides to raise ticket prices. I was under the understanding that personal attacks were not tolerated on this board but I guess i was wrong.

As far as your second crack You do not know me and if you got your jollies saying you know me cause you see me on the jumbo tron then so be it but you do not know what or where I was during any game so I would appreciate you not using my name to satisfy your needs. I have never left the stadium untill the last Texan walks off the feild so get your facts strait before you spew Bud Adams. This is a great board with knowledgable fans and great fan to fan comraderie. I would suggest that ubecool454 try to fit in and stop all the personal attacks.

GlassHalfFull
10-04-2007, 09:30 PM
You causing problems? I am not sure if that is even possible. you seem way to low key for that. Unlike me, where is I am a bit more high strung.


:fans:

I joined the MB because I wanted to be part of a like minded group of Texan's fans. It actually pains me to read divisive threads like this one. I know, some of you are reading this and thinking - what a wuss.

I enjoy the threads that go off on tangents and I also enjoy reading good solid debates on topics. I guess I do not understand why a group of people who have (theoretically) something in common (minus the Hershey Bar's) would become so negative.

I may not always agree with certain poster's politics and opinions, but for the most part, I have fun seeing the different viewpoints. Some of my favorite posters are the more controversial ones. Who didn't miss SWT while he was out sick? What is a day without reading a bizarre (no offense intended) PowefulDragon post? Ok, now that I have reread my post - I will get a life.:user:

My new goal, to swap up my tickets for a game to visit the BullPen.

NitroGSXR
10-04-2007, 09:32 PM
not true..psl seats in the 600 section are the seats between the 30 yd lines.

According to the sales rep that I spoke to a few weeks ago.. what he said was that everything on the lower sections are PSLs and everything on the top are not. I'll take his word over yours anyday.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 09:32 PM
You obviously do not understand the post, I am outraged that Front Row Tickets was able to sell front row bull pen tickets. I am opposed to all ticket scalping and believe it should be a crime and punishable by jail. It is the reason for inflated ticket prices, Team see's fans buying $250 tickets, team decides to raise ticket prices. I was under the understanding that personal attacks were not tolerated on this board but I guess i was wrong.

As far as your second crack You do not know me and if you got your jollies saying you know me cause you see me on the jumbo tron then so be it but you do not know what or where I was during any game so I would appreciate you not using my name to satisfy your needs. I have never left the stadium untill the last Texan walks off the feild so get your facts strait before you spew Bud Adams. This is a great board with knowledgable fans and great fan to fan comraderie. I would suggest that ubecool454 try to fit in and stop all the personal attacks.
Joe I can understand your feelings about scalping and all, but remember one thing.....This thing is bigger than you. Somethings are just the way they are.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 09:34 PM
According to the sales rep that I spoke to a few weeks ago.. what he said was that everything on the lower sections are PSLs and everything on the top are not. I'll take his word over yours anyday.

nitro thats fine..I have 2 psl seats in the 600s. I think you better call back and talk to another rep. You can also go to tickets on the website and see for yourself. Sections 607 - 610 and 633 - 636 are PSL seats.

Hardcore Texan
10-04-2007, 09:49 PM
Can anyone ball park how much PSL's go for? Andrew made a good point about not buying them on ebay.

I imagine it is a pretty broad range, but for shiggles I checked ebay and they have some PSL's in 122 for $5000.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 10:02 PM
Can anyone ball park how much PSL's go for? Andrew made a good point about not buying them on ebay.

I imagine it is a pretty broad range, but for shiggles I checked ebay and they have some PSL's in 122 for $5000.

Hardcore, you probably should have tried to pick up some psls before the texans started winning. Panthers psl in the lowers sideline are going for 10k each now that they have had success. As the team gets better the PSL value will go up. Check on the Texans message boards and texanstalk for psl before ebay for sure. The PSL prices depend on the location of the seat. PSLs in 122 originally sold for 1900 each, but you can expect them to go up from now on.

Andrew6
10-04-2007, 10:03 PM
Can anyone ball park how much PSL's go for? Andrew made a good point about not buying them on ebay.

I imagine it is a pretty broad range, but for shiggles I checked ebay and they have some PSL's in 122 for $5000.

bull pen cost per psl is 600

121 section is like 900

122 i think is 1200 a peice

and i think it just goes up. club level range from like 3 - 5000 a peice don't qquote me on that though.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 10:06 PM
bull pen cost per psl is 600

121 section is like 900

122 i think is 1200 a peice

and i think it just goes up. club level range from like 3 - 5000 a peice don't qquote me on that though.

andrew those 122 were 1900 in 2002. They will go up some a lot more as the texans win more. You can call the texans and they will tell you what they have them valued at now.

Yankee_In_TX
10-04-2007, 10:07 PM
As a PSL owner you do have to buy the tickets every year or you lose your seat basicly and the texans can resell your PSLs. If you're going to buy PSL's try to stay away from ebay. I'd wait and see if anyone on here is willing to sell.

Ebay, though over priced, is the second best option IMHO. Obviously someone on here is the best option.

Hardcore - Andrew is right. If Bob decides to not buy his season tickets, EVER, he loses his PSL.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 10:10 PM
hardcore most people won't lose a psl, they would sell it first. If you are thinking about some, do it this year before they get outta site.

Joe Texan
10-04-2007, 10:31 PM
I believe the psl is only good for an amount of time and will have to be renewed after 10 years or so, not quite sure but thought I read this

hollywood_texan
10-04-2007, 10:35 PM
I believe the psl is only good for an amount of time and will have to be renewed after 10 years or so, not quite sure but thought I read this

No, it's active as long as the Texans are playing at Reliant.

Hardcore Texan
10-04-2007, 10:38 PM
Thanks everyone for the very helpful information. :texflag:

NitroGSXR
10-04-2007, 10:39 PM
I believe the psl is only good for an amount of time and will have to be renewed after 10 years or so, not quite sure but thought I read this

30 years actually which is the length of the lease at Reliant. If they renew then your PSLs will remain. That's my understanding of it. I'm not a PSL owner though. I don't even have season tickets but I talked about this in depth with a sales rep a few weeks ago.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 10:44 PM
The Raiders are the only team that i can think of with 10 year renewable PSLs.

ubecool454
10-04-2007, 10:46 PM
Anyone looking for PSL should try to buy now. The texans are going to the top. As they rise so will the price of those PSLs. I just wonder how long it will be before the Texans make all the seats in the stadium psl just like the Carolina panthers seats are.

michaelm
10-04-2007, 10:50 PM
VY didn't make the choice, the Texans did. I don't understand why people like you have such distate for VY when it wasn't his decision. VY is a Houston Texan, no matter you like it or not. I can understand not rooting for him, but the way you guys handle this situation is just comical. It wasn't VY's choice.


hollywood, I'm a lifetime Longhorn fan. I was born and raised one, and loved VY when he was in the burnt orange. He's the enemy (so to speak) now, and so I root against him.
My personal dislike stems from him prancing around on my home team's field, stroking his own ego, saying "this is my house!" after the titans won the game.
Sorry, that **** don't fly with me.
Fine, you won the game, VY. You made a great play, and I recognize that fact, but if you run your mouth and disrespect my home field, I have an issue with that.
I know he was just acting in the heat of the moment, but I don't care.
VY must go down, and he must go down hard.

Andrew6
10-04-2007, 11:22 PM
Anyone looking for PSL should try to buy now. The texans are going to the top. As they rise so will the price of those PSLs. I just wonder how long it will be before the Texans make all the seats in the stadium psl just like the Carolina panthers seats are.

wow you have actually said something I totally agree with. congrats ubecool

Andrew6
10-04-2007, 11:25 PM
andrew those 122 were 1900 in 2002. They will go up some a lot more as the texans win more. You can call the texans and they will tell you what they have them valued at now.

I wasn't sure, I had psls in 121 before I moved over to the bullpen and those psls were 900 a peice. I sold them for 2000 I beleive last year to a person who told me they were a fan from another area and were moving to Houston. After I sold them I found out he was a ticket broker and nothing I could do about it. I was totally heart broken knowing I contributed to helping another team have a small advantage with having their fans in my old seats.

ubecool454
10-05-2007, 04:45 AM
I wasn't sure, I had psls in 121 before I moved over to the bullpen and those psls were 900 a peice. I sold them for 2000 I beleive last year to a person who told me they were a fan from another area and were moving to Houston. After I sold them I found out he was a ticket broker and nothing I could do about it. I was totally heart broken knowing I contributed to helping another team have a small advantage with having their fans in my old seats.

why would you feel bad, you made a buck. So you are actually a part of problem? Why so much concern about the brokers....the way the Texans seasons have panned out they have to had taken a beating.

Andrew6
10-05-2007, 05:48 AM
why would you feel bad, you made a buck. So you are actually a part of problem? Why so much concern about the brokers....the way the Texans seasons have panned out they have to had taken a beating.

I feel bad because the solution is to have all the stadium filled with Texans fans. Especially in lower region sections of the feild. I'd of rather of taken a loss on my money than to have known I sold PSLs to a ticket broker.

ubecool454
10-05-2007, 07:43 AM
I feel bad because the solution is to have all the stadium filled with Texans fans. Especially in lower region sections of the feild. I'd of rather of taken a loss on my money than to have known I sold PSLs to a ticket broker.

The fans affect on a game is not as great as some think it is. Aren't the seats you sold sideline seats? Maybe its just me but I can't see giving up sideline seats to sit in the endzone..lol. But to each his own. Taking a loss is just un-american....don't do it!

Andrew6
10-05-2007, 09:11 AM
The fans affect on a game is not as great as some think it is. Isn't the seats you sold sideline seats? Maybe its just me but I can't see giving up sideline seats to sit in the endzone..lol. But to each his own. Taking a loss is just un-american....don't do it!

I liked the fan base in the bullpen better. the other section I was in seemed to be people who didn't care to get into the game.

ubecool454
10-05-2007, 09:33 AM
I liked the fan base in the bullpen better. the other section I was in seemed to be people who didn't care to get into the game.

Just look at the Texans past history. How could you get into it? I know people that would leave the games at halftime to go back out and tailgate. Things are changing now. Don't let the other fans affect you, just do what you do because I would be willing to bet my PSLs that less than 25% of the fan base really keep up with the team other than on sunday.

ubecool454
10-05-2007, 09:35 AM
Nitro why don't you call the texans today and ask them again about the PSLs not being in the 600 section. This time talk to someone different.

Tedc
10-05-2007, 11:22 AM
The fans affect on a game is not as great as some think it is.

Oh really? There are numerous articles that seem to prove otherwise.

The No Fun League is considering putting radio recievers in helmets of offensive players to combat the problem. I guess they are considering spending that much money because of... why would they do this again???

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/nflinsider/2006/09/giants_return_to_scene_of_nois.html

hollywood_texan
10-05-2007, 12:15 PM
hollywood, I'm a lifetime Longhorn fan. I was born and raised one, and loved VY when he was in the burnt orange. He's the enemy (so to speak) now, and so I root against him.
My personal dislike stems from him prancing around on my home team's field, stroking his own ego, saying "this is my house!" after the titans won the game.
Sorry, that **** don't fly with me.
Fine, you won the game, VY. You made a great play, and I recognize that fact, but if you run your mouth and disrespect my home field, I have an issue with that.
I know he was just acting in the heat of the moment, but I don't care.
VY must go down, and he must go down hard.

I keep things in perpsective. I appreciate VY because he did some amazing things for me as a Longhorn fan. I can't explain the feeling walking out of the Rose Bowl and walking next to Michigan and USC fans with their mouths wide open like this just got run over like a Mack truck.

The only things the Texans have done is build a nice stadium and allow tailgaiting.

As for VY playing for the Texans, if it would have been VY's choice, he would been a Texan. But, the Texans choose otherwise.

Which is fine, I don't have a problem with it, but you better be able to live with the consequences and handle it like a man.

The Texans passed on him and he proved his point. I don't care who you are or where your from. You beat a team under those circumstances, you can dance around if you like. The Texans made a decision and it bit them in ass, but there is no sense in crying over it!

When I hear all this complaining about VY dancing in Reliant after he scored that TD, it reminds of a bunch of babies crying. Get over it...

rockabilly
10-05-2007, 01:45 PM
I wish I would of known these tickets were for sale.


I did however just buy 2 VERY front row 30 yard line seats to the Texans/Titans game. Birthday present to myself :)

michaelm
10-05-2007, 04:05 PM
When I hear all this complaining about VY dancing in Reliant after he scored that TD, it reminds of a bunch of babies crying. Get over it...

Sorry, it's not your choice to tell me what to get over... there is etiquette in sports, like not showing up a pitcher after you've hit a home run off of him, and not running out onto another teams logo in the middle of the field after you score a TD.
VY broke that etiquette, and as Texan fans, we have a right to not like it.
You can blather on all you want, calling people babies because they have a view point that's different from yours, but their point of view is as legitimate as yours, probably more so, because your point of view is obviously tainted burnt orange.
Sorry, I know VY is your secret love and all, but he ran his mouth in our house.
I'm sure there are more than a few Texans players that share this opinion.

You seem to be in a surly mood the last few days, did someone piss on your VY woobie????


BTW, I'm over us not taking VY, because the trade off would've been Schaub+Mario... no thanks, we can get another running back besides vince...

ubecool454
10-05-2007, 04:29 PM
Sorry, it's not your choice to tell me what to get over... there is etiquette in sports, like not showing up a pitcher after you've hit a home run off of him, and not running out onto another teams logo in the middle of the field after you score a TD.
VY broke that etiquette, and as Texan fans, we have a right to not like it.
You can blather on all you want, calling people babies because they have a view point that's different from yours, but their point of view is as legitimate as yours, probably more so, because your point of view is obviously tainted burnt orange.
Sorry, I know VY is your secret love and all, but he ran his mouth in our house.
I'm sure there are more than a few Texans players that share this opinion.

You seem to be in a surly mood the last few days, did someone piss on your VY woobie????


BTW, I'm over us not taking VY, because the trade off would've been Schaub+Mario... no thanks, we can get another running back besides vince...

Not to piss you off but, I tend to agree with Hollywood on this. I don't think Vince was trying to show us up. Vince is a hometown hero that got caught up in the moment and celebrated with his posse of fans. I was drained to after he did it to us and I want to beat vince's butt everytime he comes to Houston.

hollywood_texan
10-05-2007, 04:36 PM
Sorry, it's not your choice to tell me what to get over... there is etiquette in sports, like not showing up a pitcher after you've hit a home run off of him, and not running out onto another teams logo in the middle of the field after you score a TD.
VY broke that etiquette, and as Texan fans, we have a right to not like it.
You can blather on all you want, calling people babies because they have a view point that's different from yours, but their point of view is as legitimate as yours, probably more so, because your point of view is obviously tainted burnt orange.
Sorry, I know VY is your secret love and all, but he ran his mouth in our house.
I'm sure there are more than a few Texans players that share this opinion.

You seem to be in a surly mood the last few days, did someone piss on your VY woobie????


BTW, I'm over us not taking VY, because the trade off would've been Schaub+Mario... no thanks, we can get another running back besides vince...

I don't care who VY plays for. I was fortunate enough to go two of the most amazing college football games of all time. That's a lot more than anyone will ever get as a football fan. I consider myself very fortunate in that regard, especially as UT fan.

I respect VY because he backs up everything he says and proves his critics wrong.

That doesn't mean I want the Titans to be beat the Texans though.

But, if they do, I am not going to in a tizzy about. And, I really don't care who dances at Reliant. Just as I really don't care who sits in the Bull Pen. Just as I really don't what you or anyone else thinks about my stance on VY.

There are so many other things in life to focus on...

michaelm
10-05-2007, 04:57 PM
There are so many other things in life to focus on...

Indeed there are other things in life to focus on, but apparently, at this moment we've both chosen to focus on football...

BTW, I love your use of words like babies, and tizzy... it adds much to what would otherwise be a rational conversation...

Maybe I'm just jealous that I didn't get to attend those Rose Bowls (I am!).

michaelm
10-05-2007, 05:04 PM
Not to piss you off but, I tend to agree with Hollywood on this. I don't think Vince was trying to show us up. Vince is a hometown hero that got caught up in the moment and celebrated with his posse of fans. I was drained to after he did it to us and I want to beat vince's butt everytime he comes to Houston.

It sounds like you kind of agree with both of us... I don't think VY's actual intent at that moment was to show us up, I just think he could've been more restrained. It's difficult to convey with the written word, but my posts shouldn't give you (or Hollywood) the impression that I'm seething mad over this thing. No, I just think VY needs to get a lesson in humility on the football field, and I hope that the Texans can deliver it, and hopefully real soon.

(that "lesson in humility" statement may seem sort of inaccurate, because it might be taken to insinuate that VY acts like that all the time, which is not true. For the most part, he says the right things)

hollywood_texan
10-05-2007, 05:11 PM
Maybe I'm just jealous that I didn't get to attend those Rose Bowls (I am!).

Yeah, I was very fortunate to go those games and they were amazing.

It's such an amazing feeling to know your team is going to win down by 12 with about 5 minutes left. Everyone just knew where I was around.

I was never a big VY fan when he was at Texas.

The next morning after the USC game, I got to thinking about how I was always second guessing VY and his abilities. Then I realized, he had done more for me as a fan of one of my favorite football teams than any other player ever.

Vince is in Tennesse now, which is fine by me because I feel so fortunate to root for him while he was at Texas and delivered the goods. Some people never get that feeling from their team ever.

With that in mind, that doesn't mean I have to hold him in such disdain as a lot of other people on this board do. Further, having that position, doesn't make me any less of a Texan fan.

Not to mention, it wasn't Vince's decision!

A lot crap gets slung my way because I don't bang on VY like they do or I call them on it. Maybe if they relaxed a little bit and tried to understand a different perspective, they would understand where I am coming from.

michaelm
10-05-2007, 05:41 PM
Maybe if they relaxed a little bit and tried to understand a different perspective, they would understand where I am coming from.

That's a two-way street if I ever saw one...

hollywood_texan
10-05-2007, 05:57 PM
That's a two-way street if I ever saw one...

Yeah, and it takes two to tango.

It all depends on how people wanna dance...

Tedc
10-05-2007, 06:32 PM
I don't want to bang on VY. I don't want to junk the Carr.

This thread isn't about players and there are plenty of threads that I don't read (on purpose) about these very same arguments. This was never about them,

Maybe a mod can help clean this mess up.

Yankee_In_TX
10-05-2007, 07:31 PM
People don't realize the Bullpen is our home. People who tailgate with us:

A - Joe_Texan, Papa Troll
B - DerekLee, Owen
C - Ted + Family, Gma, Texans84 + Lauran, Longhornbabe + Keith
D - Me and my crew, TexanLee, Texan Red

That's within maybe a 10 seat span? So yah, we get annoyed with brokered seats interrupting our tailgating family.

(sorry to the people I forgot, about to fall asleep)

Specnatz
10-05-2007, 08:30 PM
I don't want to bang on VY. I don't want to junk the Carr.

This thread isn't about players and there are plenty of threads that I don't read (on purpose) about these very same arguments. This was never about them,

Maybe a mod can help clean this mess up.




People don't realize the Bullpen is our home. People who tailgate with us:

A - Joe_Texan, Papa Troll
B - DerekLee, Owen
C - Ted + Family, Gma, Texans84 + Lauran, Longhornbabe + Keith
D - Me and my crew, TexanLee, Texan Red

That's within maybe a 10 seat span? So yah, we get annoyed with brokered seats interrupting our tailgating family.

(sorry to the people I forgot, about to fall asleep)


I am behind yall 10000%

ubecool454
10-05-2007, 09:54 PM
well Just sold my extra seats in 114 to a military guy back from Iraq. I felt good doing it even though he is a MIAMI DOLPHINS FAN. I'm glad these seats are not in the bullpen near you people. I would hate for you to treat a protector of freedom badly. I tried giving him the tickets once I found out the deal but he would have none of it. Enjoy the game.

Tedc
10-05-2007, 10:18 PM
well Just sold my extra seats in 114 to a military guy back from Iraq. I felt good doing it even though he is a MIAMI DOLPHINS FAN. I'm glad these seats are not in the bullpen near you people. I would hate for you to treat a protector of freedom badly. I tried giving him the tickets once I found out the deal but he would have none of it. Enjoy the game.

You think you understand but you are completely clueless....again.

Everyone that has posted here parties and tailgates with opposing fans. We go to thier stadium as thier guest and they come to ours as our guest. We had Spike of Raiders fame, Birdman-ultimate Eagles fan, Tony the Mobile Dawg (stayed in his house in Cleveland) and Charlie Fry, Jets fans, Patriot fans, Raiders fans......just about every team fan there are. Some of my favorite people are Titan fans.

I am bringing (2) Saints fans to the Bull Pen (free, by the way).

The only problem we have is the corperations (ticket brokers) owning seats in the Bull Pen and selling them at an outrageous price. Many of the fans are not told of our traditions (standing, jerseys, sceaming every time the defense is on the feild) and they can't handle it. They will ask us to sit down and try to get the security to make us. Security tells them they should have known better when they paid 4 times the face of the tickets.
They become offended and are sorry they came. Some become angry (expected).

We don't want opposing fans to have these issues and we don't want ANY fan blocking the aisles of any section that they don't have tickets for.

I am very sure your peabrained head cannot wrap around this concept and you will have some remarks about untruths and "American way" jibberish as if it pertains to anything said here by anyone but you.

You were wrong before and you will be wrong again. We have plenty of pictures, posts, and memories to back everything I have stated.

michaelm
10-06-2007, 12:10 AM
well Just sold my extra seats in 114 to a military guy back from Iraq. I felt good doing it even though he is a MIAMI DOLPHINS FAN. I'm glad these seats are not in the bullpen near you people. I would hate for you to treat a protector of freedom badly. I tried giving him the tickets once I found out the deal but he would have none of it. Enjoy the game.


Yeah, I'm buying it... way to support our freedom, ubecool...
That's waaaaaaaaaay more believable than the post that SheTexan made about the confrontation with the Titans fans on the rail in the Bullpen... NOT <<<< I had to add the NOT in case you didn't catch the sarcasm...

How convenient that you just happened to sell your tickets to a war hero at the perfect time to support your opinion of the ticket issue... do you really think the people here are that stupid? You're making an ass out of yourself.

michaelm
10-06-2007, 12:13 AM
I don't want to bang on VY. I don't want to junk the Carr.

This thread isn't about players and there are plenty of threads that I don't read (on purpose) about these very same arguments. This was never about them,

Maybe a mod can help clean this mess up.


Point taken... sorry to hijack the thread.

FILO_girl
10-06-2007, 11:08 AM
Good lord people...the reading on most of your blood pressure cuffs would cause most Heart surgeons to smile from ear to ear. Chill! Hollywood Texan has the right mentality, let it go like water off a duck's back...

Putting my oar in the water...like this soup needs more stirring....

Sitting down near the field has its advantages, sitting up higher has its advantages too. I am not at all amazed at all the hostile posts on the subject of the BullPen here...because most of you sit there and think it is 'the primo spot'. To you, yes....to many others....not so much. Ticket brokers are ALL over Reliant, section 524 is almost all scalper seating, but Doc makes sure that they know they are in the TEXANS house regardless. Hey, they have the right to see the game, its our responsibility to make sure we are heard and they aren't. Its a pretty simple theory really...

I used to think that the BullPen was sacred ground. Changed my mind, Reliant is all sacred ground and while we like to have the opposition come to our house and have a great time...they need to be reminded that it IS our house. The WHOLE house. :wild:

PS: Why was I not on the favorite posters list? Lack of posting, out of mind?? Don't make me get started back on ORANGE LOT RULES, FILO RULES posts again. :shades:

disaacks3
10-06-2007, 12:32 PM
Breaking it down to its "base components", I think this has to do with appearances and perception. When you see games in Cleveland and Oakland, just how many fans sporting the opposing team's colors do you see in the "Dawg Pound" and "Black Hole" respectively?

Is it somehow WRONG to want at least some of the same reputation garnered for the Bull Pen? I certainly hope not, because that's EXACTLY what the Texans brass touted the section to be for in the first place!

The most fun I ever had in the "old days" of the Oilers, was sitting in a 'cheap seat' bleacher section behind the endzone w/ my father. I wanted a PSL location that would fairly replicate that experience. AFTER I signed up for endzone seating, the Texans "created" the Bull Pen and offered it up as an "option" for me. It certainly sounded like where I personally wanted to be.

While I'd love the whole house to be "rockin", I understand that there will always be the brokered seats and the "shaken, not stirred" crowd to keep that reality from ever really happening.

What I failed to anticipate (and I think the point of this WHOLE THREAD), is that this would happen to the Texans own "rowdy-by-design" section, intended for the Die-Hards, crazies, etc. I've always told people that if the game ever got boring, I suspected the "Section" wouldn't.

TEXANSTAILGATER
10-06-2007, 01:51 PM
Maybe a mod can help clean this mess up.


I've seen better people (don't y'all miss our buddy, Chato?) banned for less.

FrontRowFan
10-06-2007, 10:36 PM
I would like to set the record straight in regard to the numerous postings that refer to our recent sale of our front row bullpen seats (Sec 116 A). First and Foremost, WE ARE NOT A TICKET BROKER, SUITE OWNER OR AFFILIATED WITH THE TEAM. We are honest, hard working, Texans fans like everyone else in this forum. As the parents of two small children (that you have seen at the game on occassions) we cannot make every game --- nor stay untill the end. Sometimes we show up late -- and we always leave early. Sometimes we give our tickets away to my husbands clients. Lately, we havent been able to make the games -- due to travel and other commitments. So we sold them on StubHub (the official partner of the Texans for ticket sales). The prices we sold them for were market-based prices. We cannot CONTROL who purchases our tickets --- nor do we desire to do so. This is a free country and I have no desire to expend any additional energy attempting to scrutinize ticket purchasers that are willing, able and interested in attending a Texans game. If a current bull pen PSL owner --- or anyone else wants to purchase the tickets for a specific game, we will be more than happy to sell them to you -- at the going market rate. Joe Texan, and everyone else near our seats know us and our children. It is disrespectful to degrade a Texans fan for selling tickets that we have every right to sell. I will say that it would be nice to show up to at least one game and not have to ask someone to move out of my seats so that I can sit in them. Just because we may show up late does not give my fellow fans the right to occupy my seats in my absence. This is a great forum as we are all rooting for the same team. I dont have to paint my face blue or show up in extensive Texans garb to root for my team. We work hard for the money we pay to support our team. What we choose to do with our tickets is no ones business but ours.

Signed,

A Front Row Texans Fan

NitroGSXR
10-06-2007, 10:49 PM
I would like to set the record straight in regard to the numerous postings that refer to our recent sale of our front row bullpen seats (Sec 116 A). First and Foremost, WE ARE NOT A TICKET BROKER, SUITE OWNER OR AFFILIATED WITH THE TEAM. We are honest, hard working, Texans fans like everyone else in this forum. As the parents of two small children (that you have seen at the game on occassions) we cannot make every game --- nor stay untill the end. Sometimes we show up late -- and we always leave early. Sometimes we give our tickets away to my husbands clients. Lately, we havent been able to make the games -- due to travel and other commitments. So we sold them on StubHub (the official partner of the Texans for ticket sales). The prices we sold them for were market-based prices. We cannot CONTROL who purchases our tickets --- nor do we desire to do so. This is a free country and I have no desire to expend any additional energy attempting to scrutinize ticket purchasers that are willing, able and interested in attending a Texans game. If a current bull pen PSL owner --- or anyone else wants to purchase the tickets for a specific game, we will be more than happy to sell them to you -- at the going market rate. Joe Texan, and everyone else near our seats know us and our children. It is disrespectful to degrade a Texans fan for selling tickets that we have every right to sell. I will say that it would be nice to show up to at least one game and not have to ask someone to move out of my seats so that I can sit in them. Just because we may show up late does not give my fellow fans the right to occupy my seats in my absence. This is a great forum as we are all rooting for the same team. I dont have to paint my face blue or show up in extensive Texans garb to root for my team. We work hard for the money we pay to support our team. What we choose to do with our tickets is no ones business but ours.

Signed,

A Front Row Texans Fan

Hey, ubecool464! Fancy seeing you here!

No comment on the post though. I've reserved all comments in this thread when it comes to this bullpen spat. I don't sit there.

ubecool454
10-07-2007, 12:36 AM
You think you understand but you are completely clueless....again.

Everyone that has posted here parties and tailgates with opposing fans. We go to thier stadium as thier guest and they come to ours as our guest. We had Spike of Raiders fame, Birdman-ultimate Eagles fan, Tony the Mobile Dawg (stayed in his house in Cleveland) and Charlie Fry, Jets fans, Patriot fans, Raiders fans......just about every team fan there are. Some of my favorite people are Titan fans.

I am bringing (2) Saints fans to the Bull Pen (free, by the way).

The only problem we have is the corperations (ticket brokers) owning seats in the Bull Pen and selling them at an outrageous price. Many of the fans are not told of our traditions (standing, jerseys, sceaming every time the defense is on the feild) and they can't handle it. They will ask us to sit down and try to get the security to make us. Security tells them they should have known better when they paid 4 times the face of the tickets.
They become offended and are sorry they came. Some become angry (expected).

We don't want opposing fans to have these issues and we don't want ANY fan blocking the aisles of any section that they don't have tickets for.

I am very sure your peabrained head cannot wrap around this concept and you will have some remarks about untruths and "American way" jibberish as if it pertains to anything said here by anyone but you.

You were wrong before and you will be wrong again. We have plenty of pictures, posts, and memories to back everything I have stated.

Enough with the personal attacks. You say I don't have a clue? U don't have a clue. You continue to whine like a chile about the brokers. Those brokers are not doing anything to intentionally upset you and your whining crew. Do you think that the bull pen is the only sections that brokers buy in? You have a few in your sections as we do too. When you get a chance look on the texans website and go to tickets...go to buy and sell tickets...they send you to stubhub. So since you have a problem with who sits next to you..you should do one of three things..stay at home, watch the game in the parking lot with your tailgating crew, or go tell Mr Mcnair how he is allowing bad people to ruin your fun. Like I said from the start, mind your business and watch the game.

ubecool454
10-07-2007, 12:45 AM
Hey, ubecool464! Fancy seeing you here!

No comment on the post though. I've reserved all comments in this thread when it comes to this bullpen spat. I don't sit there.

Very well said by the seats owners. This sounds to me like you have some clowns that want that front row for better chance to get their mugs on TV or the jumbotron. :cool:

ubecool454
10-07-2007, 12:48 AM
Yeah, I'm buying it... way to support our freedom, ubecool...
That's waaaaaaaaaay more believable than the post that SheTexan made about the confrontation with the Titans fans on the rail in the Bullpen... NOT <<<< I had to add the NOT in case you didn't catch the sarcasm...

How convenient that you just happened to sell your tickets to a war hero at the perfect time to support your opinion of the ticket issue... do you really think the people here are that stupid? You're making an ass out of yourself.

You are a clown...what is a war hero?

ubecool454
10-07-2007, 12:55 AM
Well in appears that the "BAD CORPORATE TICKET SCALPERS" have spoken. :shades:

Specnatz
10-07-2007, 01:28 AM
Well in appears that the "BAD CORPORATE TICKET SCALPERS" have spoken. :shades:

Ya know I can make a handle and post anything I want, and no one can prove other wise. I am not calling anyone a liar but it is easy for me to say I am something I am not.

Specnatz
10-07-2007, 01:33 AM
Enough with the personal attacks. You say I don't have a clue? U don't have a clue. You continue to whine like a chile about the brokers. Those brokers are not doing anything to intentionally upset you and your whining crew. Do you think that the bull pen is the only sections that brokers buy in? You have a few in your sections as we do too. When you get a chance look on the texans website and go to tickets...go to buy and sell tickets...they send you to stubhub. So since you have a problem with who sits next to you..you should do one of three things..stay at home, watch the game in the parking lot with your tailgating crew, or go tell Mr Mcnair how he is allowing bad people to ruin your fun. Like I said from the start, mind your business and watch the game.

I hate all brokers who own PSLs and multiple season tickets. As far as telling McNair what I think of brokers I would do it in a second. I am not shy about letting my feelings known and I am also not shy about defending my friends and those I care about.

ubecool454
10-07-2007, 02:21 AM
I hate all brokers who own PSLs and multiple season tickets. As far as telling McNair what I think of brokers I would do it in a second. I am not shy about letting my feelings known and I am also not shy about defending my friends and those I care about.

You sound jealous to me. DON'T HATE THE PLAYA, HATE THE GAME!:whip:

ubecool454
10-07-2007, 02:31 AM
I hate all brokers who own PSLs and multiple season tickets. As far as telling McNair what I think of brokers I would do it in a second. I am not shy about letting my feelings known and I am also not shy about defending my friends and those I care about.

Defending your friends? You actually know these people. I would like to be there when you tell Bob Mcnair how you feel about this situation...lol. Generally billioniares don't take advice from or listen to po folks, especially the ones without seasons tickets.