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Ole Miss Texan
09-23-2007, 02:33 PM
Now I was really excited when we drafted him, the potential he has to be a dominating DT is awesome. However, most of us are willing to give him time to develop, not just because of his age, but because the position takes time to get used to in the NFL.

But seriously! 2 Sacks at Carolina. 1 already today...He is really getting in the background and causing some hurries. I think he got a TFL too?

This guy has really surprised me at how quickly he is playing well. I think a lot of it is that our whole DL is better and playing with a passion. that helps

:d:

TheIronDuke
09-23-2007, 02:35 PM
DROY? Amobi's looking good.

GuerillaBlack
09-23-2007, 02:38 PM
Yeah, Amobi is looking really good.

Bulluck53
09-23-2007, 03:16 PM
Patrick Willis will take DROY. Amobi is having a nice little streak, though.

awtysst
09-23-2007, 04:21 PM
Patrick Willis will take DROY. Amobi is having a nice little streak, though.

Willis will need about 110-130 tackles. Amobi will need about 10-14 sacks. If both get there, Amobi will win since the NFL likes the sack more than the tackle.

TheIronDuke
09-23-2007, 04:23 PM
Just think that Amobi should be playing for Louisville as a sophomore this year. He's going to be a beast when he's a senior!

Texans_Chick
09-23-2007, 07:13 PM
Given the history of the DROY, linebackers tend to win it more than defensive tackles. There are actually very few defensive tackles who have won it because of the nature of the position, and that it tends not to be statastic even though it is crucial to the game.

The Texans have been stout against the run, and he has been a part of that.

beerlover
09-23-2007, 07:18 PM
Willis had 5 tackles today 2 where assisted, not all that out there & plenty of football left to play (last years DROY- DeMeco Ryans 10/3).

Texans Horror
09-23-2007, 08:00 PM
Amobi is big for the Texans, no matter how you cut it. Whether he wins DROY or not isn't as important to me as the impact he is having on the line. And to think that he's just 20!

Allstar
09-23-2007, 08:56 PM
All of his sacks have come on 3rd downs and have killed the opponents drives. He comes up big when we need him the most!!!

jaybird
09-23-2007, 08:58 PM
Dude looked good today... and with Williams you're going to only be able to double one of them!

And the thing I love about him is how young he is but he's wicked smart.

I never realized just how big his arms are today. Saw him running off and his arms are the size of my legs! Kid's a beast.

rickyb
09-23-2007, 09:03 PM
Dude looked good today... and with Williams you're going to only be able to double one of them!



Yup. I was saying the same thing soon after the draft. This synergistic effect is raising the quality of Mario's edge rush, as well as Amobi's push in the middle.

There are only so many double teams to go 'round.

All that cizashe in our d-line is paying off.

smitty46953
09-23-2007, 10:16 PM
Amobi Okoye was a fantastic pick ...I wish we could have had him. This young man will be a asset to both the Texans and your community... :cool:

stingray
09-24-2007, 03:27 AM
Amobi's Jersey is in the Mail. I'm gonna wear it proudly. Sounds like he's a great kid overall.

painekiller
09-25-2007, 01:58 AM
All of his sacks have come on 3rd downs and have killed the opponents drives. He comes up big when we need him the most!!!

Huge point!

DiehardChris
09-25-2007, 02:45 AM
You know how at the draft people expressed concern that Okoye's own coach Bobby Petrino didn't draft him? I heard on the radio the other day that apparently the reason was that Petrino thought he was 'immature'. If that's the real reason, Petrino's not very smart. How mature do you think a 19 year old kid is going to be? Of course he'd be a little immature - but his upside FAR outweighs any concerns... I mean it's not like he was having trouble with the law or anything. THAT's the kind of stuff I'd be worried about - not about some typical immaturity that a 19 year old might exhibit.

I freakin' LOVE Amobi, and I love the pick. He was advertised as great against the pass, and not so great against the rush. Yet - he's great against both! He's gonna be a monster for years.

BSofA04
09-25-2007, 03:11 AM
You know how at the draft people expressed concern that Okoye's own coach Bobby Petrino didn't draft him? I heard on the radio the other day that apparently the reason was that Petrino thought he was 'immature'. If that's the real reason, Petrino's not very smart. How mature do you think a 19 year old kid is going to be? Of course he'd be a little immature - but his upside FAR outweighs any concerns... I mean it's not like he was having trouble with the law or anything. THAT's the kind of stuff I'd be worried about - not about some typical immaturity that a 19 year old might exhibit.

I freakin' LOVE Amobi, and I love the pick. He was advertised as great against the pass, and not so great against the rush. Yet - he's great against both! He's gonna be a monster for years.

Hum, sounds like a crappy "distraction" excuse to the real reason. Amobi wasn't picked by Atlanta because they already have a Pro Bowl 3 technique Defensive lineman in Rod Coleman. They lost Patrick Kearney in the offesason to Seattle, so they tried to go young in DE Jamaal Anderson (my personal choice for the Texans). But here's the catch, after they drafted Anderson, Coleman got hurt. In reality this didn't make much of a difference since they probably would have still drafted Anderson, but it just adds to the atrocious offseason for the Falcons. Saying Amobi is immature seems like a cop-out to me. Petrino should actually kiss his rear, considering how bad Louisville's defense is now without him. Okoye kept the defense respectable.

Bohunk
09-25-2007, 02:28 PM
He is definitely a disruptive force on the line!

And, if you might recall, ESPN called it our worst pick of the draft!

:stooges:

Bubbajwp
09-25-2007, 04:09 PM
Willis will need about 110-130 tackles. Amobi will need about 10-14 sacks. If both get there, Amobi will win since the NFL likes the sack more than the tackle.

Also depends on how many sacks, FF, and Int Willis gets.

awtysst
09-25-2007, 04:49 PM
Also depends on how many sacks, FF, and Int Willis gets.

Well yeah. LBs tends to get a plethora of tackles while DEs tend to rack up the sack category. I was just trying to give an approximate goal that each would need to attain to be in the running.

real
09-25-2007, 04:54 PM
Also depends on how many sacks, FF, and Int Willis gets.

Demeco didn't light it up in those categories last year.

real
09-25-2007, 04:55 PM
And I'm not really surprised with Amobi's play.

The kid is a really good ball player.

BigBull17
09-25-2007, 07:07 PM
He is definitely a disruptive force on the line!

And, if you might recall, ESPN called it our worst pick of the draft!

:stooges:

Except Michael Smith,. who is the only one I listen too anymore. The rest just regurgitate. Did you hear Jimmy Johnson say we should have taken VY? What a joke. Hes the pres of Reggies fanclub

Allstar
09-25-2007, 08:11 PM
Demeco didn't light it up in those categories last year.

This is true, but no one could ignore the fact that Ryans led the league, not just rookies, in solo tackles. He had the most tackles by any rookie in the past 20 years or so.

rickyb
09-25-2007, 08:40 PM
You guys don't suppose that one Mr. Okoye will be playing with a chip on his shoulder this weekend in the A T L?

Joey may be in for a long day on Sunday.

TheIronDuke
09-25-2007, 09:04 PM
You guys don't suppose that one Mr. Okoye will be playing with a chip on his shoulder this weekend in the A T L?

Joey may be in for a long day on Sunday.

Why would Amobi play with a chip on his shoulder in ATL?

Allstar
09-25-2007, 09:07 PM
Why would Amobi play with a chip on his shoulder in ATL?

Petrino didn't pick him in the draft.

Bubbajwp
09-25-2007, 09:17 PM
Demeco didn't light it up in those categories last year.

Im comparing Willis to Amobi not to D Ryans.

Vinnie
09-25-2007, 11:06 PM
You guys don't suppose that one Mr. Okoye will be playing with a chip on his shoulder this weekend in the A T L?

Joey may be in for a long day on Sunday.

God I hope so. Harrington's been on his butt now 14 times in the last three games, but threw for 400+ against Carolina. Time to bring him back down to earth, no pun intended.

Hookem Horns
09-25-2007, 11:36 PM
Which ESPN analyst was saying that Amobi was a reach and that having his former college coach Bobby Petrino pass on him for another defensive lineman (Jamaal Anderson) spoke volumes?

Marcus
09-26-2007, 07:16 AM
Don't get me wrong here. I loved the Akoye pick, and I think he'll be a fantastic player. But, I wanted them to take Willis. His play on the 49ers has proven my point.

Having not one, but two Demeco Ryans' flying around back there would have made any team we play . . instantly one dimensional. Their running game would be shutdown, and any running quarterbacks scrambling out of the pocket would have been neutralized.

If I had it to do over again, I would have still taken Willis.

Ole Miss Texan
09-26-2007, 09:12 AM
Don't get me wrong here. I loved the Akoye pick, and I think he'll be a fantastic player. But, I wanted them to take Willis. His play on the 49ers has proven my point.

Having not one, but two Demeco Ryans' flying around back there would have made any team we play . . instantly one dimensional. Their running game would be shutdown, and any running quarterbacks scrambling out of the pocket would have been neutralized.

If I had it to do over again, I would have still taken Willis.

Amobi is making more of an impact in these frist few games than I ever thought he would. I really liked Okoye, Willis, and Revis for our pick at 10. Being an Ole Miss fan, I've gotten to watch a lot of Willis and he's just super impressive. He's going to be a real solid LB for the 49'ers and make all sorts of tackles. Willis and Ryans would have been so impressive.

If Amobi can become as dominate as we're all hoping, it will be great, and I'll stand by the pick like I did at the time. If he doesn't..I'll say secretly I always wanted Willis. hahaha jk I hope both players become dominate (9'ers in NFC!) and Amobi-Mario-TJ take our DLine to whole new level each year they play

HuttoKarl
09-26-2007, 09:14 AM
Which ESPN analyst was saying that Amobi was a reach and that having his former college coach Bobby Petrino pass on him for another defensive lineman (Jamaal Anderson) spoke volumes?

That's the greatest signature pic ever.

fisherflo
09-26-2007, 09:39 AM
Was Amobi churning butter after he sacked Manning? that,s what it looked like to me.

Leahmic223
09-26-2007, 02:31 PM
I love the Amobi pick and am happy to have him as a player...but man what if we got Adrian Peterson? That guy is a stud and just comes into the NFL having 100 yard games and looks like he's still playing in college. He's just one of those guys man, one of those players that can just come in and make a impact.

Just like Meco and VY last year. Amobi this year too, so I am happy we got Amobi as well.

real
09-26-2007, 03:02 PM
Don't get me wrong here. I loved the Akoye pick, and I think he'll be a fantastic player. But, I wanted them to take Willis. His play on the 49ers has proven my point.

Having not one, but two Demeco Ryans' flying around back there would have made any team we play . . instantly one dimensional. Their running game would be shutdown, and any running quarterbacks scrambling out of the pocket would have been neutralized.

If I had it to do over again, I would have still taken Willis.

I thought about that, and I came to the conclusion that Okoye was the right pick for a couple reasons:

1) It's hard to find big guys who can rush the passer and stop the run at DT. A player who can do that is a valuable commodity. Amobi has been doing that and he's only 20. He is going to get physically and mentally stronger with age.

2) Demeco established himself as the leader of our defense. Bringing in another dominant personality might not have been the best thing to do chemistry wise; Especially since Demeco already plays MLB and has stated that he likes playing that position. That'd be like having Jonathan Ogden and Orlando Pace and asking one of them to play left guard.

I think Willis is a heck of a player and honestly I wouldn't have complained about that selection.

I just think that Amobi meshes better, and he provides value at a position that can really rattle an offense.

And he's playing really well at only 20 yrs. old....

Ole Miss Texan
09-26-2007, 04:06 PM
2) Demeco established himself as the leader of our defense. Bringing in another dominant personality might not have been the best thing to do chemistry wise; Especially since Demeco already plays MLB and has stated that he likes playing that position. That'd be like having Jonathan Ogden and Orlando Pace and asking one of them to play left guard.


I definitly agree with everything you just said, but Demeco is more of a quiet leader it seems. I think Danny Clark has been a good leader for our LB's and Defense as a whole- he's more outspoken than Demeco. Although he wouldn't have been the starter Willis would have, but I don't think Clark and Demeco conflict each other.

Lucky
09-26-2007, 07:54 PM
Okoye hasn't forgotten Petrino's draft snub (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Akz213_WWtsIS1iw6gx_D9OH2bYF?slug=ap-texans-okoyepetrino&prov=ap&type=lgns):

The Atlanta Falcons (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/atl/;_ylt=AuidAr90hNn500oob9tA08cdsLYF) told Amobi Okoye (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8264/;_ylt=AuPRdmCXPWtNx6l06iPeo5UdsLYF) they'd draft him.

Most of the other teams with top 10 picks did, too. But Okoye believed the Falcons since his college coach, Bobby Petrino, had just taken over in Atlanta.

Then the Falcons passed on the defensive tackle at No. 8, and the Texans got him with the 10th pick in a move that taught Okoye an important lesson about the NFL.

"It sunk in that day that this is the NFL and it is a business," he said. "Their heart's not really involved in it. Everybody's got to do what they've got to do, and it wasn't any hard feelings or anything like that."

"I wouldn't say it's extra motivation," Okoye said. "Even without them telling me they were going to draft me and then didn't draft me, I'd still be extra motivated to go play them because I know a lot of people over there and I'm going against like my old family."

Okoye, who said he hasn't spoken to Petrino since the draft, isn't sure how he'll feel seeing him again, but doesn't want to "predetermine the feeling." Regardless of how he wanted things to go on draft day, he now believes it worked out for the best.

"I'm happy where I am," he said. "I love the situation I was put in and we've got a really good thing going on here."
Lookout Joey! Amobi's got a little something extra for you.

Tulip
09-26-2007, 07:55 PM
I got stuck on Amobi about 2-3 weeks prior to the draft. I'm usually wary of pre-draft hype, but everything I read about the kid just made me want the Texans to pick him more. He's always been an overachiever for his age at every level, and I thought the trend would continue.

I thought we had no chance at him, especially with Atlanta sitting two spots ahead of us.

He has produced beyond my expectations so far - and I already had high ones.

xcomputerman
09-27-2007, 12:48 AM
You know how at the draft people expressed concern that Okoye's own coach Bobby Petrino didn't draft him? I heard on the radio the other day that apparently the reason was that Petrino thought he was 'immature'. If that's the real reason, Petrino's not very smart. How mature do you think a 19 year old kid is going to be? Of course he'd be a little immature - but his upside FAR outweighs any concerns... I mean it's not like he was having trouble with the law or anything. THAT's the kind of stuff I'd be worried about - not about some typical immaturity that a 19 year old might exhibit.


This is definitely not true. Petrino has been quoted as saying that the most amazing thing about Amobi was his incredible maturity. He talked about how he has a daughter the same age and he couldn't even imagine sending her off to college at that age. He was going to redshirt him at first but before long he was starting for Louisville. It seems Atlanta passed on him because they had a bigger need at DE, not because they didn't think he was all that.

Mr teX
09-27-2007, 08:03 AM
He's doing exactly what i & most hoped he would do to eventually help out mario. Hopefully it continues & it allows Mario & Weaver to do their thing on the outside.

HuttoKarl
09-27-2007, 08:29 AM
I loved the pick on draft day. I love it even more now. That kid is going to be amazing, and lined up with Mario, those two are going to freak out offensive lines for a long time.

stingray
09-27-2007, 08:42 AM
I loved the pick on draft day. I love it even more now. That kid is going to be amazing, and lined up with Mario, those two are going to freak out offensive lines for a long time.

I agree. At first, I was dissapointed that peterson didn't fall to us but right after Minnesota picked Adrian, I said, "I hope Okoye is there at ten".

real
09-27-2007, 09:12 AM
Amobi Okoye was told by his buddies in the NFL not to believe what he'd hear leading up to this year's draft. Still, it was hard for him not to get wrapped up in the hype.

Four out of the top five teams in the draft told him they would select him. His college coach at Louisville, Bobby Petrino, was hired by the Atlanta Falcons and said if Okoye were available at No. 8, he would be a Falcon.

On draft day, Okoye waited and waited. Finally, at No. 10, a team that never spoke to the defensive tackle leading up to the draft picked him.

"It sunk in that day that this was the NFL," the Texans rookie said. "It's a business, and heart is not really involved in it. There are no hard feelings."

If the Falcons hadn't needed a defensive end so much, Okoye might have been lining up across from the Texans in Atlanta on Sunday. But after veteran Patrick Kerney left via free agency in the offseason, the Falcons drafted Arkansas' Jamaal Anderson to fill the void.

"I loved Amobi," Petrino said. "He was a fun guy to coach. He always came to work with a big smile on his face and a great attitude. He's not only a great football player, but he's a great person."

Okoye (6-2, 302 pounds) is off to a strong start this season, leading all rookies with three sacks. He also has eight tackles and one forced fumble.

Petrino has watched hours of film on Okoye, and it has only reaffirmed what he figured would be true.

"I didn't sleep well last night because I'd been watching video of him all day yesterday," Petrino said Wednesday. "He's certainly playing well. He's been very active and has done a nice job rushing the quarterback.

"You can see his understanding of the game, and the thing that I'm impressed with is he is not in awe of anything. He's just playing extremely fast and real well."

At Louisville, Petrino was the one who joked that Okoye couldn't start until he needed to shave. When the two met, Okoye was a 15-year-old high school senior. Petrino, who had just been hired away from Auburn, was struck by Okoye's maturity but still planned to redshirt the freshman.

Ten days into his career at Louisville, however, Okoye emerged as the team's third-best tackle, making it impossible for Petrino to sit him.

"I have a daughter the same age, and I couldn't imagine that I would send her off to college at 15 years old and she would be able to handle it," Petrino said. "He did. Obviously, he had some maturing to do, but it was fun to watch him grow."

The Texans are now enjoying watching Okoye mature into an NFL player. He has already tasted success, but players laugh when asked if any of it has gone to the 20-year-old's head.

"He's just somebody living up to the hype," Texans defensive end N.D. Kalu said. "The pressure is not getting to him. He's a physical specimen. He's 300-and-some pounds, but he moves around with cat quickness.

"(And he acts) like he doesn't have any sacks, like a rookie. He's doing all his rookie duties, as far as bringing all our energy drinks, paying for dinner. He's doing everything with a smile on his face, like a guy you can truly be happy for when he succeeds."

Texans coaches say they still see much ahead for Okoye, who they don't believe is done growing yet.

They are impressed with how far along he is in run defense, since his strength is in the pass rush. And they are pleased with how quickly he picks up tips in team meetings and transfers them onto the practice field and then into games.

Now, they want to see him continue to hone his technique and fundamentals.

"I think the last few weeks he's everything we looked for," defensive coordinator Richard Smith said. "Number one, he has great body balance, lower body balance. He has great quickness. Matter of fact, he's pleasantly stronger at the point of attack than I thought he was going to be at this time in his career. That has impressed me with him.

"I like his demeanor. I like his presence. I like everything about him right now."

So does Petrino. That's what worries him about Sunday.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5168311.html

Chance_C
09-27-2007, 10:23 AM
Nice read Real, thanks...
Really impressive kid no doubt about it.

GlassHalfFull
09-27-2007, 10:34 AM
I found this similar story to the one above.

Draft snub by Petrino teaches Okoye about business of NFL



Posted: September 26, 2007
HOUSTON (AP) -- The Atlanta Falcons told Amobi Okoye they'd draft him.

Most of the other teams with top 10 picks did, too. But Okoye believed the Falcons since his college coach, Bobby Petrino, had just taken over in Atlanta.

Then the Falcons passed on the defensive tackle at No. 8, and the Texans got him with the 10th pick in a move that taught Okoye an important lesson about the NFL.

"It sunk in that day that this is the NFL and it is a business," he said. "Their heart's not really involved in it. Everybody's got to do what they've got to do, and it wasn't any hard feelings or anything like that."

Okoye will get to play in front of his former coach Sunday when the Falcons host the Texans.

Listening to Petrino, who coached Okoye for four years at Louisville, it's clear his feelings toward Okoye had nothing to do with the decision.

"I loved Amobi," Petrino said. "He was a fun guy to coach. He always came to work with a big smile on his face and a great attitude. We watched him grow up. We brought him in at 15 years old and watched him grow up and mature. He's not only a great football player, but he's a great person."

Petrino said it was difficult not to draft Okoye, but the team needed a defensive end, not a tackle. The Falcons chose Arkansas end Jamaal Anderson.

Okoye said he learned a lot from Petrino and knows the coach will be successful in the NFL, despite Atlanta's 0-3 start.

"He's a heck of a coach, man," Okoye said. "I know what he emphasizes, what he likes to get done. In college, he carried the team just like a professional team, wanted us to handle ourselves like we were in the pros. I know everything he's capable of."

Since Petrino brought many of his assistants with him to the Falcons, Okoye said it will be nice to see all those familiar faces Sunday. It's that thought that excites him about the game, not any lingering anger over the draft-day snub.

"I wouldn't say it's extra motivation," Okoye said. "Even without them telling me they were going to draft me and then didn't draft me, I'd still be extra motivated to go play them because I know a lot of people over there and I'm going against like my old family."

So far, Okoye hasn't needed any extra motivation after getting three sacks in his first two games, including two key takedowns in Houston's come-from-behind win over Carolina two weeks ago. Houston drafted him to improve its pass rush and so far he's been just what the Texans expected.

He joined a line that includes last year's top overall pick in Mario Williams and 2005 first-round selection Travis Johnson.

Petrino wasn't able to keep up with Okoye's progress through the first three games, but got reacquainted with his work Tuesday.

"I didn't sleep well last night because I've been watching video of him all day yesterday," Petrino said. "He's certainly playing well. He's been very active and has done a nice job rushing the quarterback."

He isn't surprised by Okoye's early success after witnessing his smooth transition to college football as a 16-year-old. At 20, Okoye is the youngest man to play in the NFL in 40 years.

"We did bring him in and we felt like he was so young we needed to redshirt him," Petrino said. "After the first 10 days of practice, he was our third-best defensive tackle. So we felt like it was time to play him."

Okoye, who said he hasn't spoken to Petrino since the draft, isn't sure how he'll feel seeing him again, but doesn't want to "predetermine the feeling." Regardless of how he wanted things to go on draft day, he now believes it worked out for the best.

"I'm happy where I am," he said. "I love the situation I was put in and we've got a really good thing going on here."

Baga21
09-27-2007, 02:54 PM
That's the greatest signature pic ever.

2nd that...Hilarious!!!!!!

GlassHalfFull
09-27-2007, 03:10 PM
That's the greatest signature pic ever.

Has SWT seen it?

76Texan
09-27-2007, 04:12 PM
I got stuck on Amobi about 2-3 weeks prior to the draft. I'm usually wary of pre-draft hype, but everything I read about the kid just made me want the Texans to pick him more. He's always been an overachiever for his age at every level, and I thought the trend would continue.

I thought we had no chance at him, especially with Atlanta sitting two spots ahead of us.

He has produced beyond my expectations so far - and I already had high ones.
Atlanta lost DE Patrick Kerney to FA, they had to replace him.
On the other hand, they did not expect that DT Rod Coleman would injure himself in a boating accident just days after the draft.

HuttoKarl
09-27-2007, 04:18 PM
2nd that...Hilarious!!!!!!

I just had a friend make this new one for me. Guy does excellent work, but that Brittney Spears guy....amazing.

swtbound07
09-27-2007, 04:34 PM
Has SWT seen it?

yep. and saved a copy to my photobucket album for a rainy day

GlassHalfFull
09-27-2007, 05:57 PM
yep. and saved a copy to my photobucket album for a rainy day

I figured that you would enjoy it:stirpot: