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MightyTExan
09-13-2007, 10:23 AM
:shocked

Double Barrel
09-13-2007, 10:23 AM
She's speechless right now. :shades:

sbalderrama
09-13-2007, 10:59 AM
I seem to remember a message somewhere that she was actually going to be away and not able to see the game.

Vinny
09-13-2007, 11:20 AM
She isn't even in North America right now...she didn't have access to the net last week. she will be back soon.

Texan_Bill
09-13-2007, 11:28 AM
TC--------------> :spy: mission

The Pencil Neck
09-13-2007, 12:08 PM
TC, Leader of the counter-Belichick intelligence movement.

:cowboy1:

Second Honeymoon
09-13-2007, 12:09 PM
didn't she say she was going on a trip?

Silver Oak
09-13-2007, 12:09 PM
where on earth could you go that doesn't have internets? :user:

Vinny
09-13-2007, 12:13 PM
where on earth could you go that doesn't have internets? :user:

a remote island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean is a good candidate.

DocBar
09-13-2007, 12:18 PM
where on earth could you go that doesn't have internets? :user: I've managed to find several places right here in the US with no or limited internet.

YellerLotYeller
09-13-2007, 01:05 PM
where on earth could you go that doesn't have internets? :user:

North Carolina

Bubbajwp
09-13-2007, 02:01 PM
North Carolina

Priceless

Texan Asylum
09-13-2007, 02:03 PM
a remote island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean is a good candidate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/SteelBlue/472148188_e6c169d582_o.jpg



Awesome siggy Vinny! :cool:

SheTexan
09-13-2007, 03:46 PM
where on earth could you go that doesn't have internets? :user:

Tennessee!! Unless they've figured out some way to hook it up to the outhouse!:D

GuerillaBlack
09-13-2007, 04:28 PM
a remote island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean is a good candidate.

Is that where she went?

nunusguy
09-13-2007, 07:25 PM
Gotta take exception with your premise. How do you get to the Chiefs game being one of the biggest wins in Texans history ? You could maybe even make an argument that our first victory against KC up there a couple years ago was one of our biggert wins, but surely not last Sundays game.

Specnatz
09-13-2007, 08:02 PM
Gotta take exception with your premise. How do you get to the Chiefs game being one of the biggest wins in Texans history ? You could maybe even make an argument that our first victory against KC up there a couple years ago was one of our biggert wins, but surely not last Sundays game.

It has to do with the Team winning three games in a row dating back to last season.

Runner
09-13-2007, 08:16 PM
Is that where she went?

Yep. She read The Sex Lives of Cannibals: Adrift in the Equatorial Pacific and decided to give Tarawa a try. She should have some interesting stories when she gets back.

Wolf
09-13-2007, 08:46 PM
I am sure the DVR is working fine over at TC's house :splits:

Double Barrel
09-13-2007, 09:52 PM
It has to do with the Team winning three games in a row dating back to last season.

Yep. And the factors around the way we won, too. First game with Schaub, Mario stepping up, and the win streak make it in my top 5. Dallas and Indy immediately come to mind, but the other two games I'd have to think about.

YellerLotYeller
09-13-2007, 10:02 PM
Yep. And the factors around the way we won, too. First game with Schaub, Mario stepping up, and the win streak make it in my top 5. Dallas and Indy immediately come to mind, but the other two games I'd have to think about.

Gotta throw the Jags game at home in, with the last minute "leap" by that carrolina panther...top 5 games would make for an interesting discussion.

Heath Shuler
09-13-2007, 10:05 PM
It has to do with the Team winning three games in a row dating back to last season.

It also has to be at or near the top of largest margin of victory.

nunusguy
09-14-2007, 07:24 AM
Yep. And the factors around the way we won, too. First game with Schaub
That's why I don't think it's particularly meaningful, unless you want to piggyback the "Schaub era" on top of the "Carr era" ? Don't get me wrong, Schaub looked good and I'm very pleased about that, but just how weak is KC and how good are Schaub & this years Texans ? We will know more about that after this week in Charlotte and KCs visit to Chi-town. Now if we beat Carolina on the road Sunday, that's a real mislestone for the Texans and Schaub and we got one of the Texans greatest wins then !
But last Sundays game ? Offers hope, offers promise and I'm upbeat but realistically, not nearly as impressive as say Carr & Companys season opening win on the the road in South Florida back in '03, or several of their games in '04, or Indy last year, of course the franchises first game, etc.
What I think we need at this point is a little bit more validation from Schaub & Co.

Vinny
09-14-2007, 10:04 AM
That's why I don't think it's particularly meaningful, unless you want to piggyback the "Schaub era" on top of the "Carr era" ? Don't get me wrong, Schaub looked good and I'm very pleased about that, but just how weak is KC and how good are Schaub & this years Texans ? We will know more about that after this week in Charlotte and KCs visit to Chi-town. Now if we beat Carolina on the road Sunday, that's a real mislestone for the Texans and Schaub and we got one of the Texans greatest wins then !
But last Sundays game ? Offers hope, offers promise and I'm upbeat but realistically, not nearly as impressive as say Carr & Companys season opening win on the the road in South Florida back in '03, or several of their games in '04, or Indy last year, of course the franchises first game, etc.
What I think we need at this point is a little bit more validation from Schaub & Co.
If we don't win that game we are staring at 0-3 and the fans would be in a rotten mood before the Falcon game. If we couldn't beat the Chiefs I don't think anyone would have any positive feelings about beating two teams that are considered "playoff caliber" NFL teams in the Panthers and the Colts. I think that this game was a very important game for the players to feel good about the changes and their hard work this offseason, as well as for the fans who are tired of being a team that has never had a winning streak of any sort in half a decade. Schaub attacked the deep middle of the field and in 5 years Carr struggled doing this...personally, I feel 100% better with Schaub at the helm instead of ol' haircut boy.

Double Barrel
09-14-2007, 10:06 AM
Beating Dallas did not give us an indication of anything meaningful. Yet most Texans fans would list it as the no. 1 game for the 'other' reasons related to the game: first game of the franchise, beating Dallas, prime time.

The fact of the matter is that we only have 15 players from the 2-14 team. There has been a HUGE turnover in the past 18 months, and nobody knew how we'd come out of the gate in 2007. It is a testament to Kubiak & Co. for picking talent and getting the team prepared.

And then there's that three game winning streak - first in team history.

The fact of the matter is that this team has very few - if any - truly meaningful games. It's more of what the wins mean to us as fans, because we've never had a situation of winning a game to go to the playoffs.

Specnatz
09-14-2007, 10:15 AM
Duh, the woodlands, they are still waiting to get books.

Yeah but they do have a brown McDonalds.

Exithios
09-14-2007, 10:18 AM
Duh, the woodlands, they are still waiting to get books.

Who needs internet when you have a mall with 60% of its female consumers dressed like soft-core porn stars.

Woodlands Mall FTW!

bigbrewster2000
09-14-2007, 10:19 AM
Yeah but they do have a brown McDonalds.

Actually we have 2:shades:

infantrycak
09-14-2007, 10:21 AM
I think that this game was a very important game for the players to feel good about the changes and their hard work this offseason

I think the KC game was extremely important for validating the team's change in personality and expectations from the off-season--changing into a team that expects to win. That kind of thing is fragile and come out of the box and lose would have been bad. Some folks have talked about the Cowboys games, but it isn't the same at all. They might never admit it, but the Texans did not walk onto the field that day expecting to win. When they went into the locker room it was whoohoo we pulled it off somehow, not yeah we are winners.

They beat a team they were supposed to beat last week (getting over a past bugaboo) and now need to beat a team they aren't supposed to beat. IF they can pull that off, it would really validate their off-season attitude revamp and gel the team. Gonna have to play damn hard though because there is a good reason the Panthers are favored by 6.5 pts.

TexansSB07
09-14-2007, 11:42 AM
Tennessee!! Unless they've figured out some way to hook it up to the outhouse!:D

Don't forget Al Gore "inventor of the internet" is from Tennessee

nunusguy
09-14-2007, 11:44 AM
If we don't win that game we are staring at 0-3 and the fans would be in a rotten mood before the Falcon game. If we couldn't beat the Chiefs I don't think anyone would have any positive feelings about beating two teams that are considered "playoff caliber" NFL teams in the Panthers and the Colts. I think that this game was a very important game for the players to feel good about the changes and their hard work this offseason, as well as for the fans who are tired of being a team that has never had a winning streak of any sort in half a decade. Schaub attacked the deep middle of the field and in 5 years Carr struggled doing this...personally, I feel 100% better with Schaub at the helm instead of ol' haircut boy.

I agree with all of that, nevertheless I still don't think it meets the threshold of being "one of the biggest wins in Texans history". But it was an impressive victory, but one that was "expected".
We're not in our first couple seasons here, that was the opener for our 6th season and I gotta have more of the "WOW" factor before I rate the game as "one for the ages", in Texans franchise history terms.

Double Barrel
09-14-2007, 12:09 PM
So based upon your own qualifications for "biggest win in franchise history", what are your top 5 games, nunusguy?

Vinny
09-14-2007, 12:31 PM
I agree with all of that, nevertheless I still don't think it meets the threshold of being "one of the biggest wins in Texans history". But it was an impressive victory, but one that was "expected".
We're not in our first couple seasons here, that was the opener for our 6th season and I gotta have more of the "WOW" factor before I rate the game as "one for the ages", in Texans franchise history terms.

I think we are thinking two different things. I think it was an important game for the franchise. Not something like an espn classic type game. If you don't think it was important, I guess you feel that the fan base would be cool with the team right now? You don't think the fans would be all upset? I think it would have been demoralizing on many different levels if we lost that game Sunday. All that good will that built up all summer would have been gone in 3 hours. I think it was very important that the team came out big last week.

badboy
09-14-2007, 12:42 PM
I went into the Dallas and Miami games hopeful but expecting a loss. I went into Kansas City thinking we could win and expecting a tough game that might give us hope for the future but focusing more on how the team now stacks up and what indicators there were that this team was heading in right direction. I enjoyed the first two more because Ws not expected but more satisfied after KC that we have a much more stable team that can kick some butt.

Texans_Chick
09-14-2007, 01:20 PM
Nice to be missed.

It was very hard to miss the game in person. Fixing to watch the game on TiVO.

I did leave some bread crumbs saying that I would be gone:

P Diddy Says Wear White to Texans Chiefs Game or No Entry (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/07/p-diddy-says-wear-white-to-texans-chiefs-game-or-no-entry/)

I went with some friends of mine who had free places to stay in Hana and Olinda in Maui. Very remote gorgeous places. No AC, no TVs and hard to find either TVs or computer access.

I didn't pick opening week of football as the time to go, but if you are going to be missing football, that is the place to go.

I was very fortunate to have a friend I talked to after the game that gave me the skinny on things. The group I was with were so excited to hear about such a good defensive effort by the line.

An early nice win like that can really help with confidence. The Saints had a relatively sweet early season schedule last year, and I think it helped them get on a roll. Hopefully some of the same happens for the Texans.

That was a really nice win, but I do not think that KC team is going to be any good. I'm not a Herm fan. The Texans' next couple of weeks is going to say a lot about the team. Hope to look good on the road, hope to look good against good teams.

Though I missed the first game, I am hoping for many big win games to come and a relevant December group of games.

Brando
09-14-2007, 01:24 PM
Nice to be missed.

It was very hard to miss the game in person. Fixing to watch the game on TiVO.

I did leave some bread crumbs saying that I would be gone:

P Diddy Says Wear White to Texans Chiefs Game or No Entry (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/07/p-diddy-says-wear-white-to-texans-chiefs-game-or-no-entry/)

I went with some friends of mine who had free places to stay in Hana and Olinda in Maui. Very remote gorgeous places. No AC, no TVs and hard to find either TVs or computer access.

I didn't pick opening week of football as the time to go, but if you are going to be missing football, that is the place to go.

I was very fortunate to have a friend I talked to after the game that gave me the skinny on things. The group I was with were so excited to hear about such a good defensive effort by the line.

An early nice win like that can really help with confidence. The Saints had a relatively sweet early season schedule last year, and I think it helped them get on a roll. Hopefully some of the same happens for the Texans.

That was a really nice win, but I do not think that KC team is going to be any good. I'm not a Herm fan. The Texans' next couple of weeks is going to say a lot about the team. Hope to look good on the road, hope to look good against good teams.

Though I missed the first game, I am hoping for many big win games to come and a relevant December group of games.

Welcome back!

I have not been a fan of Herm Edwards either. There was a reason he was fired from the Jets.

MightyTExan
09-14-2007, 01:57 PM
Nice to be missed.

It was very hard to miss the game in person. Fixing to watch the game on TiVO.

I did leave some bread crumbs saying that I would be gone:

P Diddy Says Wear White to Texans Chiefs Game or No Entry (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/07/p-diddy-says-wear-white-to-texans-chiefs-game-or-no-entry/)

I went with some friends of mine who had free places to stay in Hana and Olinda in Maui. Very remote gorgeous places. No AC, no TVs and hard to find either TVs or computer access.

I didn't pick opening week of football as the time to go, but if you are going to be missing football, that is the place to go.

I was very fortunate to have a friend I talked to after the game that gave me the skinny on things. The group I was with were so excited to hear about such a good defensive effort by the line.

An early nice win like that can really help with confidence. The Saints had a relatively sweet early season schedule last year, and I think it helped them get on a roll. Hopefully some of the same happens for the Texans.

That was a really nice win, but I do not think that KC team is going to be any good. I'm not a Herm fan. The Texans' next couple of weeks is going to say a lot about the team. Hope to look good on the road, hope to look good against good teams.

Though I missed the first game, I am hoping for many big win games to come and a relevant December group of games.


Wekcome back TC! I think you have us spoiled, I was looking forward to your commentary on the game..................


After watching Hard Knocks-Herm is a flim flam artist im my opinion.

nunusguy
09-14-2007, 06:01 PM
So based upon your own qualifications for "biggest win in franchise history", what are your top 5 games, nunusguy?

Here's how I see it DB: top 4 are the wins over the Cowboys, Indy, Miami there in the '03 game, & at KC in '04.
After that I duno for sure, but I really think our victory against Carolina in just our second year, given that they were the NFC champ that year & went to the SB against NE, was really significant. And then in '04 going up to Chicago in 'bout 15 degress and winning was also real impressive. But if you twisted my arm, guess I could include this years season opener in the 2nd tier of "the biggest wins in Texans history".
The Chiefs game Sunday was very big for Schaub and that certainly is important because he gave apparent justification to the Smith & Kubiak decision to acquire him and gives us fans a certain sense of security for the all-important QB position that we aren't used to. But first lets see how feeble the Cheifs are or aren't before we anoint Mr. Schaub as our savior.

Double Barrel
09-14-2007, 06:18 PM
Here's how I see it DB: top 4 are the wins over the Cowboys, Indy, Miami there in the '03 game, & at KC in '04.

Cowboys, Colts, and Dolphins are understandable. Miami makes sense, being that the were 10-6 that year and we won our second season's opening game.

But the Chiefs were 7-9 in 2004, so not exactly a powerhouse. Just curious why you'd place that one above last Sunday. Not for debate, but rather discussion among fellow Texans fans.

I have to look at our first five season's schedule to see what my top five would be. I've already got three of them in my mind, so it's just figuring out the other two and why I would rank them so high.

HOU-TEX
09-14-2007, 08:30 PM
Cowboys, Colts, and Dolphins are understandable. Miami makes sense, being that the were 10-6 that year and we won our second season's opening game.

But the Chiefs were 7-9 in 2004, so not exactly a powerhouse. Just curious why you'd place that one above last Sunday. Not for debate, but rather discussion among fellow Texans fans.

I have to look at our first five season's schedule to see what my top five would be. I've already got three of them in my mind, so it's just figuring out the other two and why I would rank them so high.

The Vikings game had to be one, right? Nevermind, we lost. Well, then there's the win against the Panthers before they went off to the Bowl. We came pretty dadgum close to beating the Pats the same year. Then there was the Green Bay....ah nevermind, I can't narrow it down to 4.:texflag:

Jurado
09-14-2007, 08:54 PM
Why was last week one of the biggest wins in franchise history? Because it was an opening game?

The Pencil Neck
09-14-2007, 09:19 PM
Why was last week one of the biggest wins in franchise history? Because it was an opening game?

I think it's debatable how big the win was but...

It's the first time the team has won 3 games in a row. It's the beginning of the Schaub era. It seems (but still has to be proven) that it validated what a lot of us thought was our best offseason and our best team. It was a game that we won when we were supposed to win. It was one of our larger margin of victories (4th largest, I think). We had our longest pass play for a TD. We had our longest sustained drive for a TD.

On the other hand, if we had lost this, we would have been despondent. It would have been like losing to the Bills last year which was a heart breaker.

But this is really only a big win if we continue to win.

Jurado
09-14-2007, 09:30 PM
I thought the Texans were 3 point favorites in the game. I guess this is why I questioned the game's "most important" status.

JohnsonFan
09-14-2007, 10:45 PM
wow didnt know it was by that much

The Pencil Neck
09-14-2007, 10:57 PM
I thought the Texans were 3 point favorites in the game. I guess this is why I questioned the game's "most important" status.

In the entire history of the club, we've almost invariably lost any game in which we were favored. It feels good to win a game you're supposed to win and more than cover the spread.

With 3 points at home, that means the odds makers thought that KC and the Texans were about the same strength overall.

Runner
09-14-2007, 11:36 PM
The Vikings game had to be one, right?

I'd put it up there. We competed.

Malloy
09-15-2007, 04:03 AM
Who needs internet when you have a mall with 60% of its female consumers dressed like soft-core porn stars.

Woodlands Mall FTW!

I'll definately spend some time in the Woodlands next time I drop by Houston :)

Second Honeymoon
09-15-2007, 08:15 AM
I'll definately spend some time in the Woodlands next time I drop by Houston :)


sadly those 60% of the consumers dressed like porn stars happen to be under legal age about 80% of the time. the other 20% are trophy wives and strippers.....and they are pretty much the same thing. nothing is grosser than a 15 year old dressed like jenna jameson....as a dad of a beautiful girl, it will be a cold day in hell when she is seen in public dressed like a tramp.

give me a book reading beyotch any day of the week anyway...

Vinny
09-15-2007, 10:53 AM
On the other hand, if we had lost this, we would have been despondent. It would have been like losing to the Bills last year which was a heart breaker.

But this is really only a big win if we continue to win.
I think it's highly likely we lose the next two games...but that won't make the first game a lesser win. I think we struggle tomorrow vs the Panthers...hope not, but I think our secondary is going to get hammered because I'm not sure we will get a big pass rush and we have too many new people in the secondary and we will have trouble stopping their running game. I think our best shot is if we can get into a shootout with the offense taking another step.

Malloy
09-15-2007, 11:38 AM
sadly those 60% of the consumers dressed like porn stars happen to be under legal age about 80% of the time. the other 20% are trophy wives and strippers.....and they are pretty much the same thing. nothing is grosser than a 15 year old dressed like jenna jameson....as a dad of a beautiful girl, it will be a cold day in hell when she is seen in public dressed like a tramp.

give me a book reading beyotch any day of the week anyway...

That's why I go to Houston to to satisfy the nasty side of me... and check out the art museums :)

Malloy
09-15-2007, 11:41 AM
I think it's highly likely we lose the next two games...but that won't make the first game a lesser win. I think we struggle tomorrow vs the Panthers...hope not, but I think our secondary is going to get hammered because I'm not sure we will get a big pass rush and we have too many new people in the secondary and we will have trouble stopping their running game. I think our best shot is if we can get into a shootout with the offense taking another step.

the Houston secondary keeps me awake at night. I hope we're able to lull our opponents into thinking that they'll have to run the ball alot against us. If they decide to start shooting, we'll be in big trouble.

nunusguy
09-15-2007, 12:21 PM
But the Chiefs were 7-9 in 2004, so not exactly a powerhouse. Just curious why you'd place that one above last Sunday. Not for debate, but rather discussion among fellow Texans fans.

My thinking is that the earlier years games automatically get more of a handicap, and therefor with the passage of time the expectation level is gradually elevated. Obviously at some point in time that theory would have diminishing returns, but I don't think we are there yet.
But back to Sundays game vs. the road game to KC in 2004. Do you honestly think the Chiefs will be a 7-9 team this year based upon how they looked Sunday ? And one game was at home vs. at one of the toughest road environments in the NFL, even though we did win decisively on Sunday.
And the first Chiefs win was in only in our 3rd year. Honestly, I think its a
no-brainer between the two.

nunusguy
09-15-2007, 12:30 PM
I think it's highly likely we lose the next two games
Same here. But earlier this year I thought realistically our best record for Sept
was 1-3, with the Chiefs win. But shows how the schedule matchups change as we get into the season, because with MV drawing prison time and after the way they looked last weekend, ATL definitely looks beatable, and includes beatable at home. So realistically, 2-2 is a real possiblity now IMO.

Texans_Chick
09-15-2007, 01:06 PM
I think it's highly likely we lose the next two games...but that won't make the first game a lesser win. I think we struggle tomorrow vs the Panthers...hope not, but I think our secondary is going to get hammered because I'm not sure we will get a big pass rush and we have too many new people in the secondary and we will have trouble stopping their running game. I think our best shot is if we can get into a shootout with the offense taking another step.

The next two games will be interesting measuring sticks, win or lose.

Tomorrow's game mostly because of the road aspect of it. The Texans looked horrible on the road last year.

Some reasons:

* During the long midseason road trip, Hodgdon was under center and clearly out of his element. Crisp experienced center play is at a premium in noisy stadiums.

* Carr was a turnover machine. Short fields, on the road = really ugly football

* Chad Stanley could not punt on the road at all.

* Young stupid team.

Kubiak has made road play a point of emphasis in the offseason. I know the team really wants this game. They will have to continue playing patiently, picking their spots, and not be overwhelmed if they have some things go wrong early in the game.

TK_Gamer
09-15-2007, 01:52 PM
I think we will need to repeat our strategy from last week and grind thier defense with Dayne early, so by the 2nd half we will have fresher legs on defense and be able to break their spirit.

and btw , welcome back TC !

johnlvegas
09-15-2007, 07:07 PM
It's been so long since the Texans played as well as last Sunday against the Chiefs that I'm still not sure it really happened. Pretty solid game for two expensive guys, Schaub and Williams: http://www.football-in-texas.com/texans-091207.html