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real
09-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Two good young QB's surrounded by two talented young offenses...

I think I heard that Staley was starting at LT...

I was really high on the guy and I thought he was the second best LT in this draft......


Should be a good game....

real
09-10-2007, 10:34 PM
Terrible Throw by Matt....LOL...what was he looking at....

He'll get it together...

real
09-10-2007, 10:36 PM
Frank Gore is a man...

Khari
09-10-2007, 10:37 PM
go 9ers :woot2:

StarStruck
09-10-2007, 10:37 PM
I just picked up a signed Alex Smith jersey for a steal, so of course, I am now paying attention to his qb skills.

Cjeremy635
09-10-2007, 10:38 PM
Yeah I know, intercepted right off the bat! Either he's gonna overcome it or head down the crapper in a hurry. I'm thinking option #2. I've never had high expectations for the guy for some reason and I don't even know that much about his playing capabilities.

real
09-10-2007, 10:39 PM
I just picked up a signed Alex Smith jersey for a steal, so of course, I am now paying attention to his qb skills.

I've been impressed the few times I've watched him...

I think he'll be a good QB for them...

real
09-10-2007, 10:40 PM
Yeah I know, intercepted right off the bat! Either he's gonna overcome it or head down the crapper in a hurry. I'm thinking option #2. I've never had high expectations for the guy for some reason and I don't even know that much about his playing capabilities.


We shall see.....

I think he rebounds in a big way....

stay tuned folks....

Cjeremy635
09-10-2007, 10:42 PM
WOW, did Arizona luck out or what?

real
09-10-2007, 10:42 PM
Levi Brown is awful....

Cjeremy635
09-10-2007, 10:44 PM
I told ya XTRU......down the crapper!!! j/k It's too early to tell.

real
09-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Matt looking shaky....uh-oh....

StarStruck
09-10-2007, 10:45 PM
Who was that pass intended for?

Cjeremy635
09-10-2007, 10:47 PM
Who was that pass intended for?

The defensive back I assume, he slightly over threw him.

Cjeremy635
09-10-2007, 10:49 PM
#24 is speedy fast. I'd like to have him for a safety.

real
09-10-2007, 10:53 PM
I'm liking the three Mike's in the booth....

real
09-10-2007, 10:55 PM
This San Fran defense is balling....

real
09-10-2007, 10:58 PM
The Cardinals need a RB...

The Edge is dull....

mexican_texan
09-10-2007, 11:01 PM
I just picked up a signed Alex Smith jersey for a steal, so of course, I am now paying attention to his qb skills.
Where, I want one

StarStruck
09-10-2007, 11:18 PM
Where, I want one

I won a silent auction at a fundraiser. There were so many outstanding offerings that somehow the jersey didn't attract as much attention and I was there waiting to scoop down. Try Ebay, but check the feedback, because I have been able to pick up some good deals. Of course, offseason is usually the best time.

beerlover
09-10-2007, 11:19 PM
Levi Brown is awful....

care to expound :cool: working til late can't wait to watch tape.

Htownsportsfan
09-10-2007, 11:41 PM
I'm liking the three Mike's in the booth....

It reminds me of Spies like us, Doctor, Doctor, Doctor Doctor and Doctor. Mike, Mike and Mike!

Cjeremy635
09-10-2007, 11:44 PM
It reminds me of Spies like us, Doctor, Doctor, Doctor Doctor and Doctor. Mike, Mike and Mike!

I watched that movie not too long ago.......classic.

real
09-11-2007, 12:14 AM
care to expound :cool: working til late can't wait to watch tape.

LOL...Just messin with ya...

I knew you'd respond...

StarStruck
09-11-2007, 12:14 AM
Arizona has some disciplilne issues to work out.

beerlover
09-11-2007, 12:58 AM
LOL...Just messin with ya...

I knew you'd respond...

yeah I figured :user:

would like to know how both rookie tackles are fareing Brown & Staley. its gonna be real tough for Levi (I'm not trying to make excuses) cause Matt is really, really slow & doesn't have a strong throw, then as someone already mentioned the edge is dull so that really pins the DE's, Safetys & LB's (Willis) ears back. well we all know that drill here. I think the Texans would beat both teams handedly.

real
09-11-2007, 01:18 AM
I'm thinking we maybe should have given Patrick Willis a harder look...

I love Okoye, but this guy is amazing...

He is so freaking fast...He covers ground like a lightning bolt...And then he arrives with bad intentions....

beerlover
09-11-2007, 01:25 AM
I'm thinking we maybe should have given Patrick Willis a harder look...

I love Okoye, but this guy is amazing...

He is so freaking fast...He covers ground like a lightning bolt...And then he arrives with bad intentions....

your not alone, great young cant miss prospect but sometimes its that unknown potential that over rides reason or worse yet need.

YellerLotYeller
09-11-2007, 01:30 AM
That scramble on 4th and 1 gave me a David Carr flashback:gun: .....now time for a fumble kid.

awtysst
09-11-2007, 01:44 AM
your not alone, great young cant miss prospect but sometimes its that unknown potential that over rides reason or worse yet need.

Yeah I like Willis too. Problem he plays the same position as Meco. Do you move Meco outside? He was very effective as a mike. Do you move Willis outside? Can he really play outside? Sometimes you cant draft best player but one with the best potential in a need position.

SF49erFaithful
09-11-2007, 02:38 AM
There's something I gotta say...the play where Patrick Willis burst into the backfield when the Cards were pinned in their own 10 was amazing. Credit goes to all of the defense though. All of the guys played great, and it felt really good to see the D play like that after seeing the Cards O manhandle us the past two years.

Props to Alex Smith and the offense on the last drive too, real impressive. Special teams also played fantastic tonight, Mo-Hicks (KR) and the coverage units along with Andy Lee (P) and Nedney (K) were all on the money. Brandon Williams (PR) had a good game also.

SF49erFaithful
09-11-2007, 02:42 AM
I'm thinking we maybe should have given Patrick Willis a harder look...

I love Okoye, but this guy is amazing...

He is so freaking fast...He covers ground like a lightning bolt...And then he arrives with bad intentions....

I was in favor of SF choosing Carriker at the time of the draft, and I feel kind of dumb now :specnatz:

Htownsportsfan
09-11-2007, 09:23 AM
I'm thinking we maybe should have given Patrick Willis a harder look...

I love Okoye, but this guy is amazing...

He is so freaking fast...He covers ground like a lightning bolt...And then he arrives with bad intentions....


I watched this kid play at Ole Miss and he plays like a man possessed! I really wanted us to draft him but knew with Ryans being a similar great young talent and the money we had in Greenwood, compounded by the fact T. Johnson was slacking and Okoye was available it was just another of my dreams that would be crushed.

bah007
09-11-2007, 10:13 AM
Two good young QB's surrounded by two talented young offenses...

I think I heard that Staley was starting at LT...

I was really high on the guy and I thought he was the second best LT in this draft......


Should be a good game....

I think I saw Staley playing RT for most of the game.

He did alright. Got abused bad once though.

real
09-11-2007, 10:28 AM
Yeah I like Willis too. Problem he plays the same position as Meco. Do you move Meco outside? He was very effective as a mike. Do you move Willis outside? Can he really play outside? Sometimes you cant draft best player but one with the best potential in a need position.

Man, Patrick Willis looked like he could have played any position on the field last night...

That guy is lighting in football pads...and then he's huge...

SanFran has themselves quite a LB....

real
09-11-2007, 10:31 AM
Props to Alex Smith and the offense on the last drive too, real impressive.

This was a good football game...

Your defense played a really good game...especially your DB's...

P.Willis is all over the place...Fitz and Boldin couldn't find much breathing room, and the pressure in Leinarts face was ridiculous....

bah007
09-11-2007, 10:35 AM
This was a good football game...

Your defense played a really good game...especially your DB's...

P.Willis is all over the place...Fitz and Boldin couldn't find much breathing room, and the pressure in Leinarts face was ridiculous....

Perhaps Clements was worth the money?...

Ole Miss Texan
09-11-2007, 10:41 AM
I'm thinking we maybe should have given Patrick Willis a harder look...

I love Okoye, but this guy is amazing...

He is so freaking fast...He covers ground like a lightning bolt...And then he arrives with bad intentions....

I'm right there with you. I really liked Patrick Willis, having watched him for a few years. The guy just has the instinct and will get it done. I would have loved if we drafted him and totally would have supported him playing Mike and moving Demeco outside.

That is a debate I refuse to get into again.

I was also very high on Amobi though, just because he was so intriguing. Once Atlanta chose that DE from Ark (lol) I knew Amobi would be a Texan. I would have drafted Amobi and was cheering before we made the selection so I can't say I'm dissapointed. Our dline is really stepping it up and IF Amobi develops in 2-3 years to be dominant...we will have an incredible dline and it will be worth it.

Patrick Willis definitly would have more of an immediate impact and would have given us The two youngest/best LB duo in the nfl. From a 'building a team' standpoint (along with football intellligence, instintct, and character) I would chose Demeco and Patrick combo over Urlacher/Briggs. I know I'm going to get bashed for saying that, but its the truth.

Anywho-back to the game. I was very impressed with the 9'ers defense as a whole. They had tremendous speed. Patrick was flying into the backfield and making some really sound tackles. Go 9'ers!

Specnatz
09-11-2007, 11:39 AM
Perhaps Clements was worth the money?...

It does not hurt that there is a probowl CB on the other side either.

bah007
09-11-2007, 11:41 AM
It does not hurt that there is a probowl CB on the other side either.

LOL. No it doesnt.

Two shutdown corners is a nice luxury in today's game.

beerlover
09-11-2007, 12:10 PM
I'm right there with you. I really liked Patrick Willis, having watched him for a few years. The guy just has the instinct and will get it done. I would have loved if we drafted him and totally would have supported him playing Mike and moving Demeco outside.

That is a debate I refuse to get into again.

I was also very high on Amobi though, just because he was so intriguing. Once Atlanta chose that DE from Ark (lol) I knew Amobi would be a Texan. I would have drafted Amobi and was cheering before we made the selection so I can't say I'm dissapointed. Our dline is really stepping it up and IF Amobi develops in 2-3 years to be dominant...we will have an incredible dline and it will be worth it.

Patrick Willis definitly would have more of an immediate impact and would have given us The two youngest/best LB duo in the nfl. From a 'building a team' standpoint (along with football intellligence, instintct, and character) I would chose Demeco and Patrick combo over Urlacher/Briggs. I know I'm going to get bashed for saying that, but its the truth.

Anywho-back to the game. I was very impressed with the 9'ers defense as a whole. They had tremendous speed. Patrick was flying into the backfield and making some really sound tackles. Go 9'ers!

You where right about Willis & the 49ers defense looks great :)

the 49ers had themselves quite the offseason, better than average draft & free agency aquistions. yet I'm not sold on Alex Smith & as we all know the key component in the NFL is the QB. in a single move Kubiak/Smith upgraded the Texans more than the 49ers for the price of a pair of 2nd rounders. Conversley the 49ers traded up to get Joe Staley costing their 1st rd. pick next year (any guesses that it will be better than 28th where the Pats would have picked?) & a 4th rd selection. frankly I wouldnt trade Schaub for Alex Smith & Joe Staley & thats two first round picks + (sorry for going draft frenzy on you guys but I just cant help it) :embarrass

Specnatz
09-11-2007, 12:40 PM
Oh and can Alex Smith please throw the ball to the TE a few times. It is not like he has probowl WR.

Ole Miss Texan
09-11-2007, 02:17 PM
You where right about Willis & the 49ers defense looks great :)

the 49ers had themselves quite the offseason, better than average draft & free agency aquistions. yet I'm not sold on Alex Smith & as we all know the key component in the NFL is the QB. in a single move Kubiak/Smith upgraded the Texans more than the 49ers for the price of a pair of 2nd rounders. Conversley the 49ers traded up to get Joe Staley costing their 1st rd. pick next year (any guesses that it will be better than 28th where the Pats would have picked?) & a 4th rd selection. frankly I wouldnt trade Schaub for Alex Smith & Joe Staley & thats two first round picks + (sorry for going draft frenzy on you guys but I just cant help it) :embarrass

I'm not a fan of Alex Smith. Quite frankly I know very little about him. But I do like the 9'ers and hope he develops into a decent qb.

I'm right there with you on Schaub. There was some players that really could have helped us in the 2nd round....and I have a feeling we're going to see a number of guys in the '08 2nd round we like BUT I really do think Schaub is the real deal. Everything about him speaks winner imo.

At first I thought 2 2nd rders was steep but still supported the trade. Now I think it was a great trade, if not a steal. (I don't look at it as we got the better end, or we were the winners and ATL were the losers. The bottom line is he makes our team THAT much better and was worth the price. Whether ATL goes to the super bowl with those 2 2nd rders or get the #1 pick overall is irrellevant to the trade being worth it for us. I think some fans are too caught up in there having to be 1 winner and 1 loser: The truth is there can be 2 winners or 2 losers.)

beerlover
09-11-2007, 02:29 PM
I'm not a fan of Alex Smith. Quite frankly I know very little about him. But I do like the 9'ers and hope he develops into a decent qb.

I'm right there with you on Schaub. There was some players that really could have helped us in the 2nd round....and I have a feeling we're going to see a number of guys in the '08 2nd round we like BUT I really do think Schaub is the real deal. Everything about him speaks winner imo.

At first I thought 2 2nd rders was steep but still supported the trade. Now I think it was a great trade, if not a steal. (I don't look at it as we got the better end, or we were the winners and ATL were the losers. The bottom line is he makes our team THAT much better and was worth the price. Whether ATL goes to the super bowl with those 2 2nd rders or get the #1 pick overall is irrellevant to the trade being worth it for us. I think some fans are too caught up in there having to be 1 winner and 1 loser: The truth is there can be 2 winners or 2 losers.)

what really amazed me watching the game first hand (Texans/Chiefs) was the speed at which decisions have to be made, the fact he held onto the ball even when hit from the blindside with no chance to get rid of the ball. there could have easily been a fumble on a couple situations, two or three more sacks, overthrown balls (as it turned out only one was underthrown in the corner of the endzone for that pick, but hey if Andre could have kept his balance & reacted better to the flight of the ball, cause it was hanging, he might have at least knocked it down). as a matter of fact I'm trying to think of a better up & coming QB than Schaub but I digress once again.

good game of two teams struggling to have winning seasons :shades:

Vinny
09-11-2007, 02:36 PM
Putting Willis at MLB and DeMeco at the will would have given us an insane linebacker core...too bad.

Goldensilence
09-11-2007, 03:01 PM
I've never been high on Alex Smith. I just thought the 49's got in the position drafting first where they obviously neded a QB and the other 1 round QBs weren't as good nor merited the top pick. I think ALex has a chance to develop into a solid QB. Goesback to if Trent Dilfer can win a SB any competant QB can. SF has the stuff to make a move this year in the NFC west. Gore needs to have confidence in his broken hand and Alex needs to continue to grow. He did step up big on teh last drive though and that's something to build on for sure.

As for Arizone they always seem to have talent but have never been able to really bring it all together. It's Ken Wisenhunts turn at the helm and i think he has a chance to bring it together. The biggest question there IMO is the line and that's supposed to be Ken's specialty.

I left the game wondering....is the 49's offense that anemic and is their d really that solid? Cards....i hate setting back into prevent defense when you got a young QB who hasn't done much of anything all day long and you've gotten good pressure on him.TWo youngteams and the NFC West will be fun towatch this year. Might not be the best division this year but could be the most competitive.

Noblesse Oblige
09-11-2007, 03:11 PM
I like the Cards a lot. That was a tough loss. But they have a lot to be proud of too.

Good for Alex Smith. He stepped up when he needed to.

Both teams have a lot to work on. I hope the Cards can bounce back and that Leinart can recover from that poor outing.

Shaft75
09-11-2007, 03:28 PM
Now the national media should know what terrible offensive lines really look like. Both of those teams sucked it up last night.

Noblesse Oblige
09-11-2007, 03:29 PM
Now the national media should know what terrible offensive lines really look like. Both of those teams sucked it up last night.

I thought the cardinals line played pretty decently, actually.

real
09-11-2007, 03:51 PM
Leinart rarely had time to sit in the pocket

Noblesse Oblige
09-11-2007, 04:10 PM
Leinart rarely had time to sit in the pocket

he had some time, but the receivers were well covered. He didn't have all day though.

Leinart had an off night and the WRs did too. Hand it to the Niners D. The line shouldn't get the blame for this one.

Shaft75
09-11-2007, 06:00 PM
I thought the cardinals line played pretty decently, actually.

What is the only reason for an immobile guy like Leinart to start scrambling???

Collapsing pocket, pressure up the middle

Levi Brown looked more like Seth Wand out there.

SF49erFaithful
09-11-2007, 06:03 PM
That scramble on 4th and 1 gave me a David Carr flashback:gun: .....now time for a fumble kid.
I need to ask fans something without a bias.....On that scramble Smith ran to the 20 yard line, but to me it kind of looked like he barely stepped out at like the 35. I didn't really see that well so I don't know....and when I watched the highlights it gives a different angle that doesn't let you see if he did. So do you know if he did or not?

This was a good football game...

Your defense played a really good game...especially your DB's...

P.Willis is all over the place...Fitz and Boldin couldn't find much breathing room, and the pressure in Leinarts face was ridiculous....

Yeah, it felt really good to see the D perform like they did, especially after seeing their offense roll over our defense the past couple seasons. The pass rush as well as the coverage really impressed me. I think a guy who really deserves credit is our new DC Greg Manusky, who was the Charger's LB coach just last season.
Now the national media should know what terrible offensive lines really look like. Both of those teams sucked it up last night.
Very true. Our offensive line played poorly last night and just didn't seem to pick up the blitzes. For the majority of the season last year, our pass protection wasn't nearly as bad, so I'm hoping that that problem isn't permanent for the season.

Also, congrats on your guys' win! How did Amobi play?

The Pencil Neck
09-11-2007, 06:13 PM
Leinart rarely had time to sit in the pocket


Actually, I was thinking he looked a lot like Carr. He wasn't seeing guys as open when he needed to fire the ball in there.

An example is on that flea-flicker. If he had thrown the ball to Fitzgerald instead of Boldin (or was it that other guy on that play), he could have had a TD. He was open.

I just didn't think Leinart was making decisions quick enough and I think he was hesitant to throw to guys that were slightly covered.

The Pencil Neck
09-11-2007, 06:15 PM
Also, congrats on your guys' win! How did Amobi play?

Amobi is playing OK so far. At times he's flashing some potential. He started off a little bit weak at the point of attack but he's gotten better at that. He's going to be a beast soon.

Patrick Willis looks like a monster. Good job on picking him.

real
09-11-2007, 06:18 PM
Actually, I was thinking he looked a lot like Carr. He wasn't seeing guys as open when he needed to fire the ball in there.

An example is on that flea-flicker. If he had thrown the ball to Fitzgerald instead of Boldin (or was it that other guy on that play), he could have had a TD. He was open.

I just didn't think Leinart was making decisions quick enough and I think he was hesitant to throw to guys that were slightly covered.

It was Fitz.


I'm not saying Leinart was flawless. I didn't see it as an "either or" scenario....

I thought Leinart played bad, and I thought his line struggled as well...

Leinart did an excellent job avoiding pressure on a lot of occasions that Carr would have been sacked on...Like that one play where he was drifting to his right and did the reverse spin back to his left and made the DE whiff...

And another play I thought he did a good job on was where it seemed like litterally as soon as he hiked the ball the whole D-line and LB corp had their hands in his pockets taking his money and had taken his sister to prom...

San Fran just looked entirely too comfortable in the backfield IMO...It was jail break city last night for both teams...

Noblesse Oblige
09-11-2007, 06:47 PM
What is the only reason for an immobile guy like Leinart to start scrambling???

Collapsing pocket, pressure up the middle

Levi Brown looked more like Seth Wand out there.

or good coverage of receivers

No line can keep pressure out forever; they were blanketing the receivers and he tucked the ball and took what he could get

the line was not lights-out but they did a good job yesterday.

I've seen the Cards line when it was really bad--its improvement in yesterday's game was tremendous

SF49erFaithful
09-12-2007, 12:11 AM
Amobi is playing OK so far. At times he's flashing some potential. He started off a little bit weak at the point of attack but he's gotten better at that. He's going to be a beast soon.

Patrick Willis looks like a monster. Good job on picking him.

That's good that he showed off some potential. Personally I didn't get the game but I'd like to see some of him and the Texans this year.

bckey
09-12-2007, 01:37 AM
Putting Willis at MLB and DeMeco at the will would have given us an insane linebacker core...too bad.

I was hoping we would take Willis after Landry was off the board. He could have helped us much quicker than Okoye.

Shaft75
09-12-2007, 10:57 AM
or good coverage of receivers

No line can keep pressure out forever; they were blanketing the receivers and he tucked the ball and took what he could get

the line was not lights-out but they did a good job yesterday.

I've seen the Cards line when it was really bad--its improvement in yesterday's game was tremendous

I completely disagree.

Maybe they were a little better, but not good

Shaft75
09-13-2007, 01:59 AM
I completely disagree.

Maybe they were a little better, but not good

Although, the former Longhorn Sendlein looked great coming in at center. That was a big surprise. I don't know if it is just me, but I think these former Longhorn interior lineman have a mean streak.