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TexanAddict
09-04-2007, 05:17 PM
His take on the Texans and the season opener (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/09/04/herm_edwards_press_conference__94/):

“As far as the Texans go, they’re an improved football team. Offensively they’ve got a new quarterback and Ahman Green, who’s a good football player, good runner. Johnson, the receiver, and Daniels, the tight end, are good. They did some good things in the pre-season. The quarterback does a good job of moving in the pocket. He gets outside on boots and rolls similar to what Denver has done in the past. They were very good in the pre-season in not turning the ball over: plus five in the giveaway-takeaway. That’s always a good sign in the pre-season.

“Defensively, they have very good speed. They drafted [Okoye] out of Louisville who’s going to start for them. We liked him and he was a young kid. Their secondary is very aggressive and plays a lot of bump-and-run. They get in your face. It’ll be a good test for our receivers.

“Their special teams are very, very good. I know their special teams coach, Joe Marciano. He was in Tampa with us. Their return guy Jones has taken two of them back in the pre-season. Their kicker, Kris Brown, is a solid guy who’s long[est kick] has been 42 yards this pre-season. Turk, their punter, was actually with us in New York. Their special teams are very good and create positive yards.

“They have a lot of young guys and some high round draft choices. It’ll be a good test for us going on the road.”

Q: Houston head coach Kubiak knows this team so well from his time coaching in Denver. What kind of advantage is that for him in putting together a game play?

EDWARDS: “They’re going to boot, play-action; they’re going to go run stretch. They were successful doing that. He’s built his team a little bit like that. But that being said we’re a little bit different on defense than the past.”

Q: How are you better prepared to defend that?

EDWARDS: “Knock on wood, we played Denver twice last year. They run Denver’s offense. We have an idea what they’re going to do. Now, can we stop it? I don’t know. But we’ll find out.”

And how much he plans to work LJ:

Q: In baseball they have pitch counts, is LJ [Larry Johnson] on a play count?

EDWARDS: “Yeah, and I have an idea. When we’re home I’ve got an idea that I’m going to make these little cards where people – like they do in baseball – can actually mark it. I’m going to try to patent that. [laughs]

“He’s going to be on a little bit of a leash early. He carried the ball two or three times in St. Louis. So he has to get his legs underneath him. Michael Bennett is healthy and that’s good; it gives us another runner. We feel very comfortable with the runners we have. It’s not all on LJ. It’s tough on one guy and he did a yeoman’s job last year.

“When I took this job I didn’t anticipate him carrying the ball that much. But injuries and losing the quarterback…the last time I checked you give the ball to your best player. He was our best player last year.

“It’s kind of ironic. He’s back, signed a big contract, now he’s not going to get the ball as much. The first thing he’s going to do is come to my office after the third game and ask, ‘why am I not getting the ball?’ That’s the question you [media] will be asking after week four: ‘why won’t you give Larry the ball more?’ Oh really, last year you said we gave him the ball too much last year. He’ll get the ball.”

Q: Is it going to be hard keeping him on a leash?

EDWARDS: “He’ll be fine the first two weeks because he knows he can’t do that. It’s about that fourth week. He knows and we’re protecting Larry. That’s important. The kind of guy he is, after week four I know what he’s going to do. He’s going to come up to me and say, ‘I can carry it a few more times if you need me to.”

“Now, it’s 25 [times] and now it’s 30 and I’m answering the question again: are you giving him the ball too much?”

HuttoKarl
09-04-2007, 05:21 PM
I think Herm might not have all of his brain cells left.

JohnsonFan
09-04-2007, 05:22 PM
thanks, yea looks like they think they are ready and prepared, that was nice of herm all he did was compliment us, looks like LJ wont be getting as many carries this season (IMO) and looks like herm really like Michael Bennett as a back to use when LJ is tired or when ever

Noblesse Oblige
09-04-2007, 05:25 PM
Did he get paid a bonus every time he used the word "good?"

HuttoKarl
09-04-2007, 05:27 PM
Did he get paid a bonus every time he used the word "good?"

Here's a copy of Herm's script:

"That guy at "Insert Position and name here" is good. Fast guy...he's good."

tulexan
09-04-2007, 05:28 PM
Herm completely ignored Mathis. Hopefully he can remind Herm about how good he is.

Texan_Bill
09-04-2007, 05:30 PM
*in my best robotic voice*

The course is "good"

I feel "good"

I like my chances.


----Tiger Woods on the Jim Rome show.

Cjeremy635
09-04-2007, 05:31 PM
Herm completely ignored Mathis. Hopefully he can remind Herm about how good he is.

Mathis hasn't done anything all preseason really. He had one decent run back and a couple dropped passes IIRC. He was a threat 2 years ago, last year hurt, and this year is a big ? mark. I hope he shows up to play Sunday.

eriadoc
09-04-2007, 05:32 PM
Did he get paid a bonus every time he used the word "good?"

It's better than execute. :hairpull:

BSofA04
09-04-2007, 06:54 PM
Herm has this weird look to him. IMO, there's a big difference in the tone between Gary Kubiak and Herm Edwards. Kubiak seems calm, confident and content with his preparations. Herm on the other hand, is a tough guy to call. Either he thinks they're going to win the Superbowl or they're in for a long season. I’m hoping for the latter.

GP
09-04-2007, 08:03 PM
Mathis hasn't done anything all preseason really. He had one decent run back and a couple dropped passes IIRC. He was a threat 2 years ago, last year hurt, and this year is a big ? mark. I hope he shows up to play Sunday.

Jacoby Jones just blasted a hole through the hull of the Jerome Mathis ship.

Period.

I mean, seriously, Jacoby has been electric in returns AND in receiving...and I think Mathis knows he's just been leapfrogged.

I predict a trade or an outright release of Mathis as the Jacoby Jones Show continues to roll out every Sunday around noon time. Mathis is going to implode at some point and revert back to the twirp he had seemingly grown out of being ...until Jacoby rolled onto the highlight reels, and now (IMO) Mathis is going to find himself "pressing" a lot more in order to show his worth.

I hate to be so matter-of-fact about it, but Mathis (IMO) is as good as done due to Jacoby and his ability to be everywhere at the right time. Only an injury to JJ can save Mathis.

Now...if Mathis pulls a TD return or great returns out of his bumpkus a few times early in the season, then all bets are off. It just seems that Mathis has spiraled downward a little over the summer as JJ seems to be flourishing in the spotlight.

TexanSam
09-04-2007, 08:30 PM
I love how coaches talk about other teams. They could be playing the worst team in the history of the league but they'll still have to say "They have some positive things going there. [Quarterback] throws the ball well and so and so has playmaking abilities." Meanwhile that team is 0-15.

powerfuldragon
09-04-2007, 08:31 PM
I love how coaches talk about other teams. They could be playing the worst team in the history of the league but they'll still have to say "They have some positive things going there. [Quarterback] throws the ball well and so and so has playmaking abilities." Meanwhile that team is 0-15.

they have to cover their asses just in case. :gun:

MissouriTexan
09-04-2007, 08:36 PM
Jacoby Jones just blasted a hole through the hull of the Jerome Mathis ship.

Period.

I mean, seriously, Jacoby has been electric in returns AND in receiving...and I think Mathis knows he's just been leapfrogged.

I predict a trade or an outright release of Mathis as the Jacoby Jones Show continues to roll out every Sunday around noon time. Mathis is going to implode at some point and revert back to the twirp he had seemingly grown out of being ...until Jacoby rolled onto the highlight reels, and now (IMO) Mathis is going to find himself "pressing" a lot more in order to show his worth.

I hate to be so matter-of-fact about it, but Mathis (IMO) is as good as done due to Jacoby and his ability to be everywhere at the right time. Only an injury to JJ can save Mathis.

Now...if Mathis pulls a TD return or great returns out of his bumpkus a few times early in the season, then all bets are off. It just seems that Mathis has spiraled downward a little over the summer as JJ seems to be flourishing in the spotlight.

I thought it was Mathis for KR and Jones for PR?

TexansLucky13
09-04-2007, 08:37 PM
Jacoby Jones just blasted a hole through the hull of the Jerome Mathis ship.

Period.

I mean, seriously, Jacoby has been electric in returns AND in receiving...and I think Mathis knows he's just been leapfrogged.

I predict a trade or an outright release of Mathis as the Jacoby Jones Show continues to roll out every Sunday around noon time. Mathis is going to implode at some point and revert back to the twirp he had seemingly grown out of being ...until Jacoby rolled onto the highlight reels, and now (IMO) Mathis is going to find himself "pressing" a lot more in order to show his worth.

I hate to be so matter-of-fact about it, but Mathis (IMO) is as good as done due to Jacoby and his ability to be everywhere at the right time. Only an injury to JJ can save Mathis.

Now...if Mathis pulls a TD return or great returns out of his bumpkus a few times early in the season, then all bets are off. It just seems that Mathis has spiraled downward a little over the summer as JJ seems to be flourishing in the spotlight.

Dang, what did Mathis do to you? Kick your dog? Steal your girlfriend? Holy cow, man!

There is no way Mathis is released. If he were going to be released, he would have been released with or before the cuts to 53. Obviously Kubiak is pleased with his progress and his attitude.

Regardless, he is an asset to us. He pretty much won us the Raiders game last year, and I doubt he will disappoint.... so long as he is healthy. He may have lost a step, but he is still one of the fastest on the field.

We will see.

JohnsonFan
09-04-2007, 08:38 PM
"you play to win the game, YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!"

powerfuldragon
09-04-2007, 08:38 PM
Jacoby Jones just blasted a hole through the hull of the Jerome Mathis ship.

Period.

I mean, seriously, Jacoby has been electric in returns AND in receiving...and I think Mathis knows he's just been leapfrogged.

I predict a trade or an outright release of Mathis as the Jacoby Jones Show continues to roll out every Sunday around noon time. Mathis is going to implode at some point and revert back to the twirp he had seemingly grown out of being ...until Jacoby rolled onto the highlight reels, and now (IMO) Mathis is going to find himself "pressing" a lot more in order to show his worth.

I hate to be so matter-of-fact about it, but Mathis (IMO) is as good as done due to Jacoby and his ability to be everywhere at the right time. Only an injury to JJ can save Mathis.

Now...if Mathis pulls a TD return or great returns out of his bumpkus a few times early in the season, then all bets are off. It just seems that Mathis has spiraled downward a little over the summer as JJ seems to be flourishing in the spotlight.

Dang, what did Mathis do to you? Kick your dog? Steal your girlfriend? Holy cow, man!

There is no way Mathis is released. If he were going to be released, he would have been released with or before the cuts to 53. Obviously Kubiak is pleased with his progress and his attitude.

Regardless, he is an asset to us. He pretty much won us the Raiders game last year, and I doubt he will disappoint.... so long as he is healthy. He may have lost a step, but he is still one of the fastest on the field.

We will see.

yeah dude... mathis is still a great KR

Texans_Chick
09-04-2007, 09:33 PM
EDWARDS: “Knock on wood, we played Denver twice last year. They run Denver’s offense. We have an idea what they’re going to do. Now, can we stop it? I don’t know. But we’ll find out.”

Earth to Herm: The Texans run big elements of Denver's offense but do not run Denver's offense.

Herm got a ton of grief after KC looked bad in last year's preseason game when the Texans booted them to death.

I agree with this: Herm Edwards: 'I Did a Terrible Job' (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/04/herm-edwards-i-did-a-terrible-job/)

In both of his head-coaching jobs, I've always have a hard time telling if Edwards' players find his speeches inspirational or annoying. I'm guessing inspirational the first couple times and annoying after that.

TexansFanatic
09-04-2007, 10:59 PM
I agree with this: Herm Edwards: 'I Did a Terrible Job' (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/04/herm-edwards-i-did-a-terrible-job/)

I still can't figure out how Herm got the KC job. Exactly what did Carl Peterson see in Edwards' 39 and 41 record with the Jets that told him this guy was a winner?

Lucky
09-04-2007, 11:12 PM
I still can't figure out how Herm got the KC job. Exactly what did Carl Peterson see in Edwards' 39 and 41 record with the Jets that told him this guy was a winner?
It's the good ol' boy system, circa 2007. Edwards was a CB with the Eagles when Peterson was the personnel guy.

tulexan
09-05-2007, 12:23 AM
Jacoby Jones just blasted a hole through the hull of the Jerome Mathis ship.

Period.

I mean, seriously, Jacoby has been electric in returns AND in receiving...and I think Mathis knows he's just been leapfrogged.

I predict a trade or an outright release of Mathis as the Jacoby Jones Show continues to roll out every Sunday around noon time. Mathis is going to implode at some point and revert back to the twirp he had seemingly grown out of being ...until Jacoby rolled onto the highlight reels, and now (IMO) Mathis is going to find himself "pressing" a lot more in order to show his worth.

I hate to be so matter-of-fact about it, but Mathis (IMO) is as good as done due to Jacoby and his ability to be everywhere at the right time. Only an injury to JJ can save Mathis.

Now...if Mathis pulls a TD return or great returns out of his bumpkus a few times early in the season, then all bets are off. It just seems that Mathis has spiraled downward a little over the summer as JJ seems to be flourishing in the spotlight.

Mathis did have a 78 yard return in the preseason where the kicker made a great tackle to save a touchdown. I believe that was his first return of the preseason too. Mathis is still a great KR. Being a great PR does not mean that you are going to be a great KR and vice versa. KR is more about raw speed and PR is more about elusiveness. Mathis is so good because he gets that 10-15 yard running start before the coverage gets to him and then blows by everyone with his track speed. Jacoby may be fast, but if I was betting on a race between him and Mathis, I would take Mathis every single time.

Carr Bombed
09-05-2007, 12:58 AM
Man, yall crack me up sometimes. Mathis has not been passed or leap frogged. Mathis is still our best "kickoff" returner, if he wasn't Coach Joe (who is one of the best ST coaches in the league) would of had JJ returning kicks.

Mathis is faster than Jones and thats what it takes to be a elite kickoff returner. Jones however is quicker than Mathis (Jones quickness is unreal and beats Mathis in the fast twich department) and thats why he excells is the punt returning department.

Mathis only had 5 kick returns in the preseason, 4 against the Cowboys AFTER Jones 91 yard TD, so the Cowboys were pretty damn aware about our return specialist. Jones woke them up and they were directional kicking from then on out. Mathis had a 18 ypr avg. which isn't great and I'm sure Mathis will tell you that.

However with Mathis 1st return of the preseason he took a kick back 78 yards down the field against the bears, which brings his avg up to 48 ypr.

We don't have a kick return competition going on, what he have is a two headed monster that will scare the crap out of special team coaches every week.

And for the love of god, can we please refrain from calling Mathis a punk, twirp, thug, or whatever name thats usually thrown around here, its not like he's out getting drunk and making a *** out of himself during the offseason. (Do you hear me Alston...Hello, wake up) Did he get a big head after his first season........yes, he was a young rookie who excelled in his first season and probably thought he was bigger than he really was. The kid was young and needed some growing up to do. Since Kubiak has been here, Kubiak has put Mathis in his place and Mathis has been nothing, but a team player, people need to stop hating on him.

Hell I think Kubiak brought Bethel in to take Mathis' job and Mathis responded and made this team at one of the hardest positions to make on this team, this year. Give the guy his props, he stepped up and responded and he's on this team, because he deserved to be on this team........Mathis earned his roster spot.

Mathis is our kickoff returner and Jones is our punt returner.

Andrew6
09-05-2007, 01:22 AM
Man, yall crack me up sometimes. Mathis has not been passed or leap frogged. Mathis is still our best "kickoff" returner, if he wasn't Coach Joe (who is one of the best ST coaches in the league) would of had JJ returning kicks.

Mathis is faster than Jones and thats what it takes to be a elite kickoff returner. Jones however is quicker than Mathis (Jones quickness is unreal and beats Mathis in the fast twich department) and thats why he excells is the punt returning department.

Mathis only had 5 kick returns in the preseason, 4 against the Cowboys AFTER Jones 91 yard TD, so the Cowboys were pretty damn aware about our return specialist. Jones woke them up and they were directional kicking from then on out. Mathis had a 18 ypr avg. which isn't great and I'm sure Mathis will tell you that.

However with Mathis 1st return of the preseason he took a kick back 78 yards down the field against the bears, which brings his avg up to 48 ypr.

We don't have a kick return competition going on, what he have is a two headed monster that will scare the crap out of special team coaches every week.

And for the love of god, can we please refrain from calling Mathis a punk, twirp, thug, or whatever name thats usually thrown around here, its not like he's out getting drunk and making a *** out of himself during the offseason. (Do you hear me Alston...Hello, wake up) Did he get a big head after his first season........yes, he was a young rookie who excelled in his first season and probably thought he was bigger than he really was. The kid was young and needed some growing up to do. Since Kubiak has been here, Kubiak has put Mathis in his place and Mathis has been nothing, but a team player, people need to stop hating on him.

Hell I think Kubiak brought Bethel in to take Mathis' job and Mathis responded and made this team at one of the hardest positions to make on this team, this year. Give the guy his props, he stepped up and responded and he's on this team, because he deserved to be on this team........Mathis earned his roster spot.

Mathis is our kickoff returner and Jones is our punt returner.


I was pretty much thinking the same thing. I've seen Mathis make probowl moves and rookie mistakes in games. Just hopefully we see more probowl this year.:fans:

TexansFanatic
09-05-2007, 12:50 PM
It's the good ol' boy system, circa 2007. Edwards was a CB with the Eagles when Peterson was the personnel guy.

I didn't know that. I guess that does explain it----at least to some degree.